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You wound me Ludi.-
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In post 183, Tierce wrote:What's your problem re: actually contributing content on the first phases of a game, Oversoul? Why wait for others to provide "things to comment on"? I think this is a playstyle thing from you, but boy oh boy does it make me twitch.
For one thing, the last time I was here was the early beginning of page 2 and the only notable thing that had happened was your flip out over Quil for something I really didn't consider to be important, or telling, or scummy. I've also explained that I don't like RVS (which is typically the first few pages of any game) earlier in this thread to Ludi and I suggest you read what I said there.
I'm not commenting now other than telling you this because I'm tired, its 2:30 in the morning and I have to wake up early tomorrow to do a lot of things, but I doubt you care about that.
Overall, Tierce, from what I have seen, you are overly aggressive and your play here is reminiscent of the early stages of Paranoia.-
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So I got a lot less time available to make a post than I would have liked and I most likely won't be able to make another one for probably a day or so.
First, where are the trolls of this game? Katsuki? MaguaofIllusion?
Before this game began, when I wasforcingasking people to play this game, Toasty stated that it would probably be a weak game for him where he wouldn't be as active. So his inactivity is alignment neutral *cough* Tierce *cough*. Nikanor is much the same way that he goes on extended hiatuses for seemingly no reason and again, it is alignment neutral, although I am less certain of this than Toasty.
I still haven't fully read the thread and I don't have many "reasons" for the opinions that I hold, but a few things.
Tierce, you said you are transplanting some posting habits from Paranoia Mafia and saying you are using them here as townand that I should "deal". My response to you is that you should "deal" that I find you suspicious for using scumbehavior from a scumgame we shared.
Magister Ludi looks town in my opinion and I really don't understand your problem with him asking "who are the weak ones?" because I found myself asking the same question when parsing through the thread.
At first glance, one MAYBE two people stood out as townies that needed their hands held, but from the tone of your post you made it sound like there was a fairly large amount.
I don't understand why you are afraid of scum knowing this when like I said, there are maybe two people who need their hands held. Surely in a playerlist like this if those people weren't scum, the scum would already know who needs their hands held?
Your jump at Ludi for that reason is suspicious.
At this time I would also like to point out that just because there are two known winconditions, that doesn't mean there aren't anymore. I would be very surprised in a game as large as this that there are only two winconditions. Another theory I hold is that the second wincondition can be for multiple factions, but with different roles needed to be "removed" for a win.
Gammagooey looks town for bringing up the wincondition with regards to mass claiming. However, I take reservation about calling him town as that could easily be faked.
In post 226, Alchemist wrote:You know UN, the P is right next to the O on a standard qwerty layout. Pretty sure he just pressed the wrong button. I dont see anything there about autocorrecting. jus sayin'
Why are so many people taking issue with Uber's random vote on me about this? This seems like typical Uber. If people are still concerned about it, it was a misclick.
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In post 465, Magister Ludi wrote:@Oversoul Well, I initially thought that M win condition came from some outside third party with some specific job of eliminating roles (like some sort of serial killer)
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The confusion bit?
I don't buy it.
Ludi, did you read whatIsaid?
There should be no doubt that the first wincondition was the town wincondition and the second one was the scum wincondition because you would have had the town wincondition.
Why would Vi give the INDEPENDENT serial killer's wincondition? Its anonymity is key to it's survival.
There is no reason you should have been confused about the wincondition if you were town.-
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In post 473, Magister Ludi wrote:Not many games have the potential scum win condition out in the open like that.
Because most of them are considered the general wincondition?
Glork, I'll let that sentiment bite you in the ass later.
Tierce's crap with Quilford is almost fucking identical to the bussing she did to me in Paranoia Mafia.
Overzealous accusation against another player (maybe her buddy although I doubt it from Quil's play) and then biting her tongue and accepting the person she was vehemently pushing is town once others start chiming in about her actions and the actions of the person she is accusing.-
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In post 475, Magister Ludi wrote:Since you're going into meta Oversoul, do you think Tierce's play resembles Pony Mafia or PYP Redux mafia, both where you were town and she was scum?
And how come you never gave me your read on Speedily Teleporting Hippos (from mars tm).
Because I was more concerned with your failing to realize the town wincondition and the scum wincondition.
Right now I think that hydra is town.
I think it resembles neither since Pony Mafia Tierce was very new scum and PYP Redux Mafia I never really gave Tierce much thought because I thought she was roleconfirmed.
I think she resembles Paranoia Mafia to the t, though.-
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In post 477, Glork wrote:Elaborate?
Paranoia Mafia - she played dumb town
Paranoia Mafia - she bussed me early day 1 over something miniscule (I said I didn't read the role Pm or something like that)
Paranoia Mafia - she backed down off voting me once others pressured her + came to my defense
Mafia Behind the Maiden - she is "confused" about something that is pretty clear (roles = characters = players)
Mafia Behind the Maiden - she is going after Quilford for something rather miniscule, a mastinesque list of reads
Mafia Behind the Maiden - she backed down off Quilford after people called him town + started pressuring her-
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In post 478, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Apparently?
CES + Empking + Nobody Special, I'll post very little and mostly watch type of player-
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In post 481, Duplicity wrote:her fairly obvtown including her reaction/genuiness to being voted alongside her unpromopted soft-claim.
Oh, that's another thing you reminded me.
I don't find that softclaim town at all.
I want to hear Tierce's response to everything before I reveal why though.-
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She pulled this gambit where she counterclaimed a doc given an item an inventor gave her that basically acted like a doctor and then when pressured on it she stated she didn't think the role could exist given that power.
Also, she engineered a townslip in that game by making a fake note to look at the bandwagon's iso. It is in the early part of the scum QT (she asks me to stop pressuring her and says I should use that slip as reasoning) so it is very possible that her "confusion" isn't confusion at all.-
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Yay Faraday I am so glad you were able to play in this game
Tierce's response is a lot of words so I feel confident that she said something she won't be able to take something back once I start discussing everything.
Anyway, Glork, this is why I don't like the softclaim from Tierce
Tierce has continually complained about being the Night 1 kill in many of her games. She has stated that she absolutely hates it because once she is dead no one bothers to listen to her reads or follow her suspicions.
What has she done in this game?
Painted a huge fucking target on her back.
How, you might ask?
By softclaiming. And then, full claiming. Her paranoia over death and the frustration at being killed apparently did not dissuade her from soft claiming right after you did, and then full claiming.
To top it all off, Tierce realizes her death is quite certain, if she is town. Yet she is playing this no hand holding thing as if it will last the entire game. At most I would expect an accurate town Tierce to live 1 or 2 game days and Tierce is coming into this thread expecting it to be much longer.
To top it all off, Nuwen, a person as scum who pretty much has a fetish for Tierce's corpse, is in this game and Tierce is still not afraid of full claiming?
I don't buy it for a second.
Tierce, I don't "toe the lines of game integrity" in EVERY game. Just about 95% of them. I will stop though since it is visibly making you distressed and I don't like doing that to anyone.
MaguaofIllusion is going down the path against Spyrex that I was going to take and bringing up the point that I was going to make. Spyrex as scum likes to go after weak links in the town. His push for a lynch on Tammy looks very much like a push against a weak link seeing as Tammy is quite new.-
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In post 542, Tierce wrote:Faraday isn't in this game...? That's MoI and Magua. But I'll have Faraday with me in 90 min wheeee~
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In post 641, Glork wrote:Let me know how that crow tastes later, champ.
In the meantime, could you please stop being shit at mafia and vote Toasty? Thanks.
Don't have to be an ass about it.-
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In post 673, GreyICE wrote:This is the best fake dayvig ever ^_^
Will get around to ISOing those people, Reg.
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In post 759, Glork wrote:In post 758, Oversoul wrote:Alchemist it is actually much more like me lol
Well, that explains a lot.
Remember when I said I didn't hate your play in general, but I hated that particular play? Yeah, you can amend it to I hate your play in general. Welcome to the N1 policy vig list.
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Hindu are you even readin what I am saying? I just gave you two fucking examples of me gambiting.
Main reasons for gambit - I was very suspicious of Tierce's claim right after Glroks. It looked like Tierce was trying to get Glrok to trust her by buddying him.
Tierces play as I said looked very suspicious given the similarities between Paranoia and here
I wanted to see how specific players would react. Sadly not as many people interacted with the gambit. I suspect certain people selectively lurked knowing it wouldn't result in a scum death or didn't know how to react to it
I have more opiniOns but I'm waiting for certain people to make another post
I'm not Ike.-
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Pretty much everyone on my wagon, you included.
You went from calling me stupid but town to I see Red kill the stupid. What would have been different? Two confirmed town (me you) and one dead town? Now we have two confirmed town (you and Tierce) and no dead townie. Yes we have me and now I am a "policy" but I would say we are better off than we were a day ago.
Everyone was fine with me being retarded but now that I am gambiting I suddenly deserve blood? For being retarded?
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In post 787, Alchemist wrote:Why did you ask if she was a BP
It was a fucking joke. I wanted to have an oh you picture in response to Vi's vote count with that but then my computer got attacked and I just posted that-
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In post 802, SpyreX wrote:Also the "virus" part is actually the biggest eye raiser and I'd love a full rundown on how you got a virus from a picture that you wouldn't have even needed to download.
/nerd
Because that's something I would lie about.
Since you are a securities analyst though
I googled oh you picture
I went scrolling through the options went to like the 4th picture accidentally clicked on the link, loaded the picture thought what the hell might as well right clicked the picture, had the site load up and then an error message saying I had a virus infection and I should buy something to solve it, posted the message anyway, Exited the browser went into safe mode and so far it hasn't found anything.-
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Chrome. It didn't look like the typical chrome box though. More of a windows thing. It said error virus infection and then wouldn't let me close the box so I closed the browser after posting the message.
For the record I am computer illiterate. But I guess you can just chalk that up to the things Glork said in his I hate you post.
Alchemist, I obviously know that things saying you have like a million infections are fake. I misclicked the picture and google doesn't immediately give the URL to the site and by the time everything loaded I had right clicked the picture and then the virus popped up.
Of all things to be preoccupied with?-
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In post 828, Tierce wrote:What did I miss? Oversoul was the one who fakeclaimed Ike by using Aether. How is he jumping on an Ikelynch? Did someone claim Ike while I blinked?
Nevermind.
Oh that's another one, Oversoul, you could have outed Ike. Screw you.
I agree with th Kats wagon
People I had a problem with? Glork as I already mentioned.
Hindu
Alchemist
Katsuki
They all jumped on and didn't even give me a chance to explain And it was all very opportunistic.-
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VOTE: Katsuki
Im not omgusing. I've stopped that since that was another one of the things people dislike about my play (rage self voting after getting pressured)
However, the man of the hour has posted.
MoI specifically is the person I thought of when making my gambit. I remember him doing it a lot and since he didn't take the bait and vote for mislynch 2012 I feel better about that slot.-
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Glork I will replace out if you reconsider that statement.
I'm not lying. If my replacing out will get you to stay in this game and change your opinion about leaving Mafiascum.
My gambit was not intended to cause this much distress and once I saw Tierce claim I figured I was in too deep. Clearly I was wrong. I'll leave this game because I don't have priorities straight and that is causing too much discord and distractions for the game.
To everyone, I am sorry about gambiting. I meant as a fun strategic way but I guess this was the wrong place to try this. I'm sorry if I have offended you. I'm sorry if I ruined anyone's day. I'm sorry to Vi for causing this much trouble.-
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It's probably frustrated townies.
Either way, if my presence is what makes Glork leave I'll leave. I value players and my relationships with the people on this site more than my wincon, more than playing in this game. That's why I was legitimately concerned when DDD had a problem with my wall. That's why I was concerned when Tierce was Literally spewing the hatred like some fucked up form of acid reflex disease. That's why I was concerned when Glork said he hated my play.-
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