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1. see that my first reason is obv a jokeDisCode wrote:
1. See my first post and note that it wasn't serious. (Not a BM alt btw)RayFrost wrote:unvote, vote: DisCode
1. claimed he's an alt of mine, he's obv a bm alt
2. too much conjecture on pointless things that makes 'em suspicious
3. what gorrad said
2. Please point them out.
3. Please explain in your own words how it's rolefishing after having looked at my posts including the explanations.
2. really, conjecture on flavor, regardless of if it is a mod hint or some other thing like that, is pointless. It will give no value to anybody but those mentioned, and it is unnecessary for those not in some way directly related to it being part of the consideration.
3. you are placing huge conjecture based upon gorrad's and pome's roles and, though you aren't directly asking them to say it, are implying a desire to know via the fact you say stuff along the lines of "well, htis probably has something to possibly do with either of your roles, please consider it, as only you and this mysterious other player have something at all to do with it." <--- seriously, this is practically saying right out "consider it and tell us your conclusions" in an indirect way.
role fishing.
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2. itDisCode wrote:2. It's not pointless at all. Every post that is not a mod post (Like vote counts and such, so excluding posts with hints if present) can tell us something about a player. And I believe that this is the case with Post 29. It can tell us something about three players, if two of them (Plum and Gorrad) are willing to work with it. Which is why I want them to think about it.
3. First of all, it's Plum. Secondly, of course I'm not asking them to say it as I'm not interested in their roles as of yet. But they might have information due to Post 29. And in that I am interested for reasons stated above.wasa mod post. you haveno guaranteethat it was anything more than flavor when slicey hadpromisedflavor. Thus, it is WIFOM speculation. In addition, you are still (as cobalt said) making the assumption there is a mystery third person that somehow forced the mod to post this. This assumption is in of itselfveryfoolish.
3. yeah, yeah, I'm in games with both of them, I'm bound to get them mixed up (I mean, seriously, they aresisters). The only real reason you should have "interest" in it is if they state their conclusions. Otherwise, all you are doing is trying to direct them, since you get no information, and nor does the town, really (this in no way means I think gorrad and plum are scum, so don't try that misrep). In addition, focusingpurelyon this single thing is distractingat best, since only gorrad, plum, and the potential third person have any information.
The rest of the town considering it will only be a detriment toactualscum hunting.don't you feel silly now?-
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for one... you are taking the cicero alt claim way too seriously. It's a joke from a GD thread IIRC.DisCode wrote:2. I have two reasons why I think it's not just a mod post. The first has to do with what you say in your post: Flavour. Please note the difference between the flavour of the first post and Post 29. Please come back to this point after having seen the difference. If you can afterwards say that Post 29 is just flavour as Slicey promised and actually believe that, I'll have disproven that you're the alt of Cicero.
I have no intention revealing the second reason, but it will be shown some day.
3. No, I want them to think about it and if they think it's important, it should be looked into. It's not distracting as it gives information about players.
Also, there are a few ways to scumhunt. This is also a kind of scumhunting.
2. For the purposes of the average townie,it isjust flavor. I will treat it as such, since I lack the information necessary to even consider it as a possible mod hint or otherwise. I'll cede the point that youmaybe right that it is some kind of mod hint or player message or some such. As far as I'm concerned, it's worthless.
3. I suppose that there are ways of scumhunting that I don't know (annoyingly...), then. It is, however, a distraction to the majority of the town, since virtually none of us (Save potential mystery player A and plum/gorrad) have the information necessary to know what it's about.
unvote, vote: cobalt
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What a troublesome player you are, Sir Chris, a person with less ego than myself. I don't think I'll be trusting you, I am afraid.Sir Chris wrote:What a troublesome player you are, RayFrost, a person with more ego than myself. I don't think I'll be obeying you, I am afraid.don't you feel silly now?-
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Cobalt wrote:
Really? I assumed it was some kind of player-sent message.DTMaster wrote:Wait.. should I do flavour analysis here? Because that seriously is a giant mod hint if what Slicey said is true.
First cobalt conjectures an unknown player, but he then tosses out the question to somebody else as if he hadn't been the one to introduce to the concept in the first place.Cobalt wrote:Why are you conjecturing an unknown player?
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*yawns expansively*Sir Chris wrote:I don't care what your reasoning was, at this juncture any vote you could possibly have has very little reasoning, logic, and true insight. Especially with the fact that you are such a bad player, which I have glimpsed from you given our little back and forth just now.
Do as you wish.
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here you go DoSRayFrost wrote:Cobalt wrote:
Really? I assumed it was some kind of player-sent message.DTMaster wrote:Wait.. should I do flavour analysis here? Because that seriously is a giant mod hint if what Slicey said is true.
First cobalt conjectures an unknown player, but he then tosses out the question to somebody else as if he hadn't been the one to introduce to the concept in the first place.Cobalt wrote:Why are you conjecturing an unknown player?
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To summarize my opinion on it:DisCode wrote: Ray, are you ignoring the comments from Cobalt and Gorrad about your attack on Cobalt on purpose? Or is it because you don't have anything to say about it?
it's the best I currently have, and I see no reason to change my vote until there is something better for me.don't you feel silly now?-
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You've claimed to be a miller (nice scum claim, tbh) while also claiming to have done some unknown, arbitrary thing that you refuse to tell us.
Think about it:
according to you, you have no further powers
according to you, you are related to a very ghastly mod scene
according to you, you are a miller
What about this states anything positively towards you?
I want a full claim now so I can determine if I really trust you... at all.don't you feel silly now?-
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chill winds, darkness decending, etc.DisCode wrote:
Please elaborate on the bolded.RayFrost wrote:So... you caused something bad and thenclaim to have dispelled said bad thingand turned into a miller? <--- contradiction much?
light vs darkness stuff
darkness is bad
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Sooooo...~xRECKONERx wrote:MafiaSSK wrote:RF is scum then.unvote vote RF. He is digging way too much into this one single mod scene. He seems to think that Slicey of all mods would be stupid enough to let the flavor lead to scum.
I like these posts.Vaya wrote:Are all of you people completely unfamiliar with the flavor? It should be obvious what Discode's role probably is, and that this person is probably town. I really don't like the attacks against him right now.
That being said, I wouldn't mind if Discode claimed his rolename to confirm that he is the person I'm thinking of. I don't see how it could hurt.
You think I'm scum for digging at DisCode over something that he claimed credit for that was a (seemingly) negative thing?
Would you prefer I left 'im alone and not get answers to questions that may be important to the game?don't you feel silly now?-
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Are you seriously posting a link? O.o" I call shameless advertising! (this will be my next reason to vote you in the RVS, fo serious)Gorrad wrote:No worries, dude. I'd be HIGHLY shocked if there's a bigger KH nerd in this game than myself, mod included, so I do what I can.
For those interested, I now link you to http://worlddestiny.proboards.com/index.cgi. I'm a mod there. /bragging rights
Anyways, gorrad, what is your opinion on DisCode claiming to have done something and thennotdoing anything or trying to help in any way or giving any information as if the claim somehow makes him obv town?don't you feel silly now?-
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So... my pressuring/pushing/questioning Dis/Gorrad/You/etc would be pro-town behavior, and MafiaSSK pressuring me/nobody else would also be pro-town behavior?xRECKONERx wrote:
In my honest opinion, pro-town behavior on D1 is to pressure everything you can, while scummy behavior is to blend in.fuzzylightning wrote:@Reckoner: Why is being non-committal on Day 1 a scum-tell?don't you feel silly now?-
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Self-metaing is scummy.
Also~
oi, mysterious and disembodied voice, what be your opinions on the following players:
mafiassk
saber
me
wolframhart
reckoner
discode
sir chris
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Really? I figured it'd help with scum hunting besides, they don't have to if they don't want to.saberwolf wrote:The above is even more scummy then imo. Guided Voice, please do NOT do what RF says. This would make it very easy for us to figure out who you are.
They can just say "no"
Besides, at this point, I'm getting annoyed by all this flavor stuff. It's distracting me >.<don't you feel silly now?-
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Okay easy potential bandwagonPapa Zito wrote:
How is a wagon with two votes on it, in a 27-player game, "easy"?RayFrost wrote:ITT Vaya jumps on an easy bandwagon based off another individual's reasoning.
That said, Foilist needs moar votes.
still counts as jumping on something easy based off another individua's reasoning that he claims to have thought before when he has provided virtually no real insight that aids the town.don't you feel silly now?-
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I have, but it doesn't make it any less scummy when the individual saying it hasn't posted anything insightful or helpful.Papa Zito wrote: Yeah but.
I mean lolwut?
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Issue with foil case:
it could be applied to other people in this game.
It is more of a general case rather than anything specific about his posts or what he's said.
As such, the case can be applied elsewhere (zwet, for the most obvious example), making it not one saying I should vote foil but rather one saying I should vote somebody that hasn't posted content.don't you feel silly now?-
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