Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

RayFrost · Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:05 pm

Lemme summarize the similarities:

Hayker's posting is inconsistent

His playstyle causes me to want to bash his head in with an easy bake oven (meant in a light hearted way... of course?)

he posts a mixture of fluff and poorly worded opinions

To be honest, I have no contrasting play to analyze this with, so it's not solid, but I feel it is adequate to at the moment give him a bye.

I like how DoS is sliding downward in the spiral of "noooooooo!!!!!" It has gotten to the point I almost want to put him out of his misery...

As it is, I do not support the hayker wagon.

I agree with the modvoice about DTM and Starbuck.

fyi:

I actually made this post before my other one, but I forgot cuz the site was screwing up, so this has been sitting here for like... a few hours at least

Sir Chris · Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:18 pm

Yeah Hayker could be scum in that "hey, this guy doesn't look good" sort of way. But eh, case isn't nearly as concrete as it needs to be, as Ray says.

Also the site is hiccuping a lot this morning.

RayFrost · Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:24 pm

yup, the site's been screwing up for the past couple of hours at least.

took fifteen minutes for that post to get up on there post-sending.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:35 pm

By the way, I will laugh if Goofball person is scum with Gorrad and DoS, mostly because that means my scumdar is doing really good, and I remembered that goofball person defended both.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:47 pm

Except that your scumdar sucks chris.

unvote, vote Hayker

I am perfectly happy with a Hayker lynch as I have stated before, and no one is going to lynch chris today.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:53 pm

Always possible, I just don't think all of the evidence I have gathered in my favor points to that.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:54 pm

Also maybe it is just DoS being kind in his wording but I find it funny he is telling me my scumdar sucks instead of "You are scum, Chris." I mean, scum can't have scumdars, can they?

RayFrost · Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:54 pm

ITT DoS shows desperate opportunism?

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:07 pm

ITT DoS was voting hayker, then switched to chris, and now is back to hayker. Both of whom are on his scum list. Nice stretch though Ray.

RayFrost · Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:20 pm

Note the ? attached made it a questions.

Nice misrep though DoS.

Starbuck · Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:47 am

Hey guys, I just got in from my flight from the States to Sicily. I have a final tonight, but I will be catching up as soon as I can. I apologize for the delay.

Iecerint · Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:55 am

Good enough for me. I'm staying on DoS.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:16 am

I just had a really lengthy post written out, but then my internet crashed, so fuck it, here's the general idea:

I can't really put a finger on it, but something about ace's tendency to only go after the popular candidate and his rather inactive posting screams under-the-radar scum to me. But, I'd also agree that out of all the people on my scumlist, he's the last one I want to lynch.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:22 am

Didn't he go after me?

Maemuki · Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:13 am

Wait. RF. No opinions on my defense?

Dunno where my vote currently is, but...~

Mae, you get to live for another day, isn't that great?

and I honestly want mae dead

You knew where your vote was. On a related note, welcome to the "somewhat scummy" section of my list!

Sir Chris · Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:16 am

I am sure he mourns.

Maemuki · Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:17 am

I am sure he mourns.

Geez, thanks for the sarcasm.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:22 am

No problem, I have plenty more where it came from. By the way I have quite a bad memory Maemuki, can you remind me what your defense of yourself was? You don't appear very memorable to me, I think your posts lack a certain substance to them at times. I am not saying you are scummy as much as you aren't sticking into my mind. I was being sarcastic, but at the same time I feel no... intent from you. I feel if I was scum I could completely dominate you in a way that would make you a joke, and probably make you feel broken and abused. Your posts are light. There is a term in boxing, and I am sure in other sports, where they call punches "Light." In that way, they lack effectiveness. I feel a sort of lightness from your posts, in your diction, and in your mannerisms. I do not suspect a player of RF's personality to feel anything from such light words coming from you. So while I was being a jerk, I had a bit of sincerity mixed in as well.

Maemuki · Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:27 am

Well, I guess you explained yourself, my personality is like this. He won't feel it, and I know that, I've played enough times with him to know that.

And about the scum part, geez, I know that. Please, please, tell me things I don't know.

And don't even try to come with the "If you know why aren't you changing it" answer.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:29 am

To be fair, that is a pretty good response. In fact, I am going to demonstrate how light your posts are by ignoring your question, why DON'T you change it? Being ineffective and knowing it is something I could never fathom doing as a player.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:30 am

edit: question = request.

Maemuki · Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:33 am

why DON'T you change it?

I've tried it, it didn't work, I sighed and I lived on.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:35 am

I am curious, in what way didn't it work?

Maemuki · Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:36 am

I am curious, in what way didn't it work?

It was pretty much the same, really. Same content, but more active, just that.

Sir Chris · Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:42 am

It isn't about activity though. You have to give more weight in your posts. If you told RF that his posts was unacceptable and he needs to be held accountable, he might ignore you, but if you keep pointing it out, eventually, people are going to say, 'dude, just respond.' It is how mafia works. You get pressure and weight not only by your own voice, but by your ability to reason with other players for them to lend you their weight to punch someone's lights out. At the start of this game, I had no weight in anyone's mind because I was a completely new player. It showed. I was ignored, brushed off, and moved into a corner while the 'big boys' had their say. Then I got pissed, and suddenly people realized I was making a point. Can't claim it is RIGHT quite yet, but boy do I have a point. Suddenly I am leading a lynch, and my posts get a lot of responses and a lot of heed. Why? Because I forced them to heed me. I just wouldn't shut up until they did. When a person has one out of every seven posts in a game, and is really just posting a metric ton about something, it eventually either going to be noticed directly or people are going to question why it is being shunned to the side.

Something to keep in mind, regardless of your alignment in games: No matter the result and opinions of other players about your posts, you always learn something. You might not get the result you want, and when you don't it sucks, but even if someone ignores you, that might tell you something. Your job as town is to convey that to your town members at key times, your job as scum is just to stabbity stab someone.

Sorry if this sounded like a lecture, you are your own mafia player and you may do as you wish. I just wish people had more fangs.