Fact: Kairyuu is town.
Fact: Kairyuu has yet to be the same alignment as magnus_orion.
Conclusion: magnus_orion is scum.
magnus and I have noticed a trend. Whenever we try to play a game together, we are always opposite alignments. Therefore, working on that premis, me being town would automatically make magnus scum. His counterargument is, of course, the exact same thing in reverse, which is to be expected of him, since he's scum and all.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Why are you obsessed with your alignment?Kairyuu wrote:Fact: Kairyuu is in a game with magnus_orion.
Fact: Kairyuu is town.
Fact: Kairyuu has yet to be the same alignment as magnus_orion.
Conclusion: magnus_orion is scum.
vote: magnus_orion
Mastin wrote:I'm Lazy. Using quote instead of the QT. Rather bothersome.Or you could both be scum, bussing each other.Kairyuu wrote:I would totally do that if we were both scum. It would be awesome.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Why are you obsessed with your alignment?Kairyuu wrote:Fact: Kairyuu is in a game with magnus_orion.
Fact: Kairyuu is town.
Fact: Kairyuu has yet to be the same alignment as magnus_orion.
Conclusion: magnus_orion is scum.
vote: magnus_orion
magnus and I have noticed a trend. Whenever we try to play a game together, we are always opposite alignments. Therefore, working on that premis, me being town would automatically make magnus scum. His counterargument is, of course, the exact same thing in reverse, which is to be expected of him, since he's scum and all.
Note my comment on the matter. He does it all the time, and I am expecting that he will claim you to be scum and vote you now. That seems to be the general progression from what I've seen.magnus_orion wrote:...........Mastin wrote:Hey, people! I'm Mastin. Most of you have seen me before, some have not. I'm eternally scummy, and this time, you're right to vote me! Because I'm a ticked off scum guy who might as well be a serial killer because I know the role name of my partners, and not who they are, and while we have a quick topic, none of them confirmed! Yay! <_<
Let's scum hunt:
Mastin Votes: Mastin.
you are either lying or not playing toward your win condition. Unless this is normal for you, which I sincerely hope its not,
unvote
vote mastin
Note the attempt to get Mastin modkilled on page 1. If had actually done something against the rules then yes, I would somewhat agree with you. However, I think you're just being spiteful and trying to end the Day before the RVS has even fully ended.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Mastin wrote:Hey, people! I'm Mastin. Most of you have seen me before, some have not. I'm eternally scummy, and this time, you're right to vote me! Because I'm a ticked off scum guy who might as well be a serial killer because I know the role name of my partners, and not who they are, and while we have a quick topic, none of them confirmed! Yay! <_<
Let's scum hunt:
Mastin Votes: Mastin.MOD: Please take note of the quoted post.
Mastin DIE!
Unvote, Vote Mastin
Waitwaitwaitwait. You actually thought the Daykill linking to a funny video was REAL.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Since the DK part has been proven to be air (can't be sure what to expect in this game) alot of my OMGUS has vanished.Kairyuu wrote:@Lamont: Except for the daykill bit that whole post was serious. I think you are scum, and I feel strongly enough about that to lynch you.
Carry on.
The rules post does not specify. Some mods end the Day regardless, and some punish the modkilled player's faction. We do not know which, so I assume that a modkill would end the Day. Also, the fact that I think Mastin is town weighs in with the fact that I think a modkill would end the Day.Modkills only end the day if the modkilled player is town.
Why would we lynch him? He's obvtown.If we lynch him and he's town this has the same result.
And if he's town D1 ends on PAGE ONE. Do you not understand the implications of that or something?Ergo potential for modkill is better because if he's scum we don't waste the lynch.
You're the one spewing craplogic, not me.Ergo ur argument sux.
Cool. 'cept I'm not scum, and he's not scummy at all, let alone scummy enough to lynch.Unless you are scum and know he's town, in which case you're actively scummy.
Scum-like = Behaving in a way similar to (like) the way scum would behave.No. People can do things that are perceived as scummy and not be scum. I don't think Kai is acting in a pro-town way currently but it is too early to determine anything beyond that I think he is "scum-like".
I wish I actually was a dayvig. I would shoot you so fast your head would spin. You're scummy as hell, and I want to know why the hell Mastin died and you got spared.Pardon, but this was already refuted pages ago. It appeared that I had been killed by a day-vig shot and I criticized a play-style that would support such an action. I understand how you may of missed this as certain people have pushed this kool-aid of an idea.
Dunno if I responded to this, but the reason was that I could follow his logic and he seemed to make quite a bit of sense. That, combined with the fact that his motivations struck me as strongly pro-town, meant that I was confident in my read of him. Seems I was right though, just as I was right about zwet/hewitt, and Phily/Jazz in Polygamist.You probably also saw that I asked Kai why he thinks you're obv-town, not you. So let him answer.
Here's the thing. You sir, are the most annoying and childish person that I have ever had the displeasure to play with. If you think someone is scummy, then attack them for being scummy. If you don't like the way someone plays, then you have NO RIGHT to spend the entire game doing nothing but pestering them about their playstyle, and then gloating about it when they die. What would your reaction be if I said "You fucking suck at this game and should stop playing altogether because you are utterly useless and couldn't catch scum if they claimed?" I assume that you would feel that I was unnecessarily rude and condescending. Well guess what. That's exactly what you've been doing all game. Stop behaving like a little baby and start playing properly.Hmmm, I just googled the wiki. It says that Penber is a FBI agent who is chasing down the Kira.
So since Mastin has died this means he was just village...
This means Mastin = Master of Jackassery
This means Mastin = FAIL
My initial reaction was rejoicing but now its been replaced by being totally pissed off.
I'm going to update my wiki to include a new section in "honor" of Mastin. It will be called:
"Jackassery"
:/
This is a bad assumption. You seem to be under the impression that anyone who agreed with Mastin or thought he was town must be scum because, in your little world, Mastin's play was so terrible as to be impossible to find pro-town. Get it through your head that you were wrong and move on.I would try to look for his "certain" defenders. People that would be more certain of his innocence than would be normal for mere blind villagers...
Pure, grade A bullshit right here. If Mastin was playing poorly, then yes, it would be his own fault if he was policy vigged. However, he was not playing anywhere close to poorly. You are just using the fact that he can't respond to your bullshit anymore to slander him. I won't stand for it. Even if he was scum he wouldn't deserve this shit from you.Its easy now to say that Mastin was townie. My case against him crap play however. Those guilty of crap play can't blame their lynchers for lynching them; its their fault (please see my wiki). If it was a townie that vigged Mastin, they can't be blamed for being wrong -- it was Mastin's fault.
Spoilum I have no read either way on. Neutral.@ Kai: What are your reads on Spoilum & Philly?
This^^^^magnus_orion wrote:Lamont = fun to lynch and full of candy. (and he's been ignoring my posts, and already said ignoring people is a scumtell)Alright, guys... if 14 of us make a lynch, we can enter night phase, and those who need to catch up on reading can do all that good stuff when the thread is locked. The best thing we can do right now is decide on lynching top suspects instead of continuing to flood the thread with posts.
Bolded mine.Lamont_Cranston wrote:I say that they both are buddies in RL,ZazieR wrote:Add this as well to the above post.Kairyuu wrote:We're lynching Lamont. That will happen. He's scummy as fuck, and is only suspecting me because I accused him of being scum, called Mastin town, and was right.
Also, note how he completely ignored my entire first catch-up post, when a large chunk of it was directed at him. Scummy McScumscum needs to die, and quickly too.
Lamont, what do you have to say?Yes we are. Your point?
they have decided they want to lynch me and regardless of what I say it will be scummy. They will deny it but it is true.Bullshit. We've barely even spoken to each other since this game started, and wouldn't be stupid enough to talk about it outside of the thread either way. Essentially what you're saying is that because magnus and I agree on something and we know each other in rl, we must be plotting against you for our own nefarious purposes. That's the most contrived, bullshit defense I've ever seen. How about Mastin? Was he in on our "scheme" too, even though we don't know him in rl? Is everyone who suspects you "plotting to get you lynched regardless of what you say?"
The post he referenced is such a wall-o-crap "case", I didn't see how anyone could take it seriously.Address my fucking points. I don't remember seeing where you call ignoring people a scumtell, but magnus said you did, so therefore you are being blatently scummy BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION. Also, calling something crap does not invalidate it by any means. Either address my points or concede them. Those are your only two options. If you ignore them in your next post you have effectively conceded the entire case to be true.
The wording implies a choice, which cannot be made unknowingly. To decide somethingyou must be aware of the choice. Either you worded that very poorly (as both magnus and myself interpreted it the same way) or you actually wanted to imply deliberate cheating on our parts. If it was the second then it's another point against you in the asshole column, since there is nothing that either of us has done to warrent such an accusation.they have decided they want to lynch me and regardless of what I say it will be scummy.
Invective is your MO, scum, and if you wanna claim craplogic then you must explain how it is such. I don't intend to tolerate you ignoring cases made against you simply because you don't feel like responding. The cases are there, and have been there, but left unanswered for, for much of the game thus far. Ignoring them will not make them go away, and will instead continue to affirm my opinion that you have admitted to the scummy behavior that people are accusing you of. Get lynched already.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Look, if the two of them want to make a short and concise, well-resoned case I'll answer it. I don't want to have to wade through endless invective and crapologic.ZazieR wrote:Lamont, what do you think of ignoring players?
First off, there are more than just us two calling for you to answer for the cases against you. Secondly, I am utterly amazed that you don't think that ignoring cases against you won't come back to bite you in the ass. Even if you don't get lynched D1 it will happen eventually, since I have faith that other players in this game will realize how your complete disregard for cases made against you is scummy as hell. You see that the people suspecting you are few, and since you don't seem to realize the speed with which a small number of attackers can grow, you disregard our cases, since you don't feel threatened by us.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Based on the above, can you see why its better just to accept their two votes so the village can move on?
If you do not stop this RIGHT NOW, I will not rest until you are force replaced. Mastin is dead, and therefore cannot respond to your bullshit ad hom, which means that your continual repetition of these insults towards his play are nothing but slander, and you are being a complete asshat by pushing this issue.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Mastin was a CRAP player (please see my wiki). At least ABR & Gorrad are playing intelligently & logically.
Given that his death flavor saidI look back on Kairyuu's #477 with concern, principally because he didn't consider the possibility of a specified cause of death (for the uninitiated, this is a heavily-used plot device in Death Note). I cannot fathom why a townie familiar with the Death Note story would dismiss that hypothesis and can only presume there is an ulterior motive.
I may have already addressed this, but it was his play. I liked his logic, and he seemed to be acting in line with the interests of catching and eliminating scum. I didn't necessarily agree with his suspicions of magnus, but they were understandable given magnus' own meta.Kairyuu -> Mastin supporter. At first glance, townie, what made you so sure Mastin was obvtown?
Please note that nowhere in his entire case does he actually mention anything that can be considered a scumtell. Explain how his case was decent.While I think Lamont is scum he makes a decent case on Kairu in post 123.
1. I said he was obvTOWN, not obvSCUM.Lamont has a good point about Kai finding Mastin obvscum. I, too, felt he was buddying very strongly. The point is equally valid on myk and kise, Lamont is growing more town in my eyes. Maybe Mastin really did rub him the wrong way. But there are other alighments so I don't know. IGMEOY
See my response to Spoilum.@Kai: Why were you so convinced that death notes cannot be used as gunfire?
Missed what? How does Light finding a death note in the beginning of the series mean that Mastin was killed by scum? Or a death note even? And how does my not thinking that Mastin was killed by a death note imply that I missed anything?Ok then I seriously want to know how Kai could of missed this. What do you think about my questions concerning specifying kill methods for notes?
I was merely pointing out that Lamont's wiki is a sign of screwed up priorities. He's more concerned with getting people he doesn't like lynched than getting scum lynched.Also, what's your point about the wiki stuff in this quote? Do you see it as a tell, and why?
(New question: Are you warning Lamont in this quote? And if so, why?)
Really? Can you back this up, because to me it seems like I was providing plenty of my own theories. Hell, for some of the issues we disagreed completely, and for others is was HIM agreeing with ME.I felt that Zee was making points that fell in line with Mastin while Kai was just agreeing and affirming without making any real contribution.
You have been blatently disregarding this all game with regards to Mastin, and if the mod decides that this is within the bounds of the game, then expect to get a taste of your own medicine.mith wrote:You should not make any post, or start any thread, with the intention of abusing, ridiculing, insulting, offending, or upsetting any other user on this site.
Kai, I forgot you people could be scared of deathnotes, but wouldn't it make sense to wait for tomorrow to see if my intentions are town? You decide, I kill. In case I get killed by someone else, and I would carry a deathnote, wouldn't that mean that the amount of people able to carry a deathnote gets smaller?
I never said you did that. Scumslip, possibly? The wording makes it seem as if you have been caught and are wondering how your accuser found out.Kise wrote:@Kai - how did I out myself as SOG's killer?
Please take note that Kise demonstrates he knows that Mastin's killer is not town, meaning that either HE is the killer, and played the fool with the modkill speculation D1 or he is a member of the scumteam that did it (with the same implication about the speculation).Kise wrote:I am saying that if Mastin WAS genuine on his claim as Shinigami, then thatonly result in a new Kira by the time D2 rolled around.would