Phables: Death Note Mafia (Game Over)

[Kairyuu]

@Kise: Claim in your next post or die. It's as simple as that.

[Kairyuu]

Also, everybody take note that myko acting exactly as expected. For the rest of the game, we should consider the votes required to lynch to be X less than the given number, where X is the number of Shinigami who have had their death notes taken and burned (at this point, X=1, obviously).

[Benmage]

@all: Kise almost definitely does not have a death note, which means, scum or not, we don't need to lynch him now. Priority is hitting one of the remaining death notes. Lynching Kise will not accomplish this.

Maybe he’s a member of the scum team that knows they didn’t do the killing, knew the death note requirements so thought it was probably a vig.

Yes. I did just say that we don't need to kill scum.

Wow.

I repeat, Kise cannot have a death note. Lynching him is sub-optimal regardless of alignment.

I don’t agree with this logic.

since the likelyhood is that he was the one who killed Mastin, during the Day

Also disagree with this.

. Also, if any of them DO have that type of win con, optimal play would be to stop using the note they have, to increase the probability of getting to the Day that they need to.

Unless they killed someone who was pressuring them.

That's not what I'm arguing though magnus. My point was that if we think we've found scum then we should lynch them in the hopes of them having a death note, but if there is strong evidence to support both them being scum AND them NOT having a death note, then lynching them would not be in our best interest. Instead, taking note of who they are for a later lynch (when they might have been given one) would be a MUCH better play. That is the situation I believed we had with Kise. I am still reasonably certain of his being scum, but now there is no evidence to support that he is not holding a death note, so I support lynching him once again.

I still disagree here, unless we have several glaring scum which is going to be unlikely. Therefore to save mislynching any glaring scum regardless of note holding or not should be killed.

I have to admit the MBL catch was an awesome post.

What catch?

Vote: Kise

Woah, why forcing the L-1 so freaking quickly.

You and me both know that there is no claim good enough to get unvoted. Unless I fakeclaimed doc... hmm...

W.t.f

Town needs to check with zwet regarding his supposed tracking ability;

Ya I got this.

Like fish.

Deer.

Also, everybody take note that myko acting exactly as expected. For the rest of the game, we should consider the votes required to lynch to be X less than the given number, where X is the number of Shinigami who have had their death notes taken and burned (at this point, X=1, obviously).

I agree.

Unvote only because I want a claim, not for that weak unvote by L_C.

And yes if he doesn’t claim and turns town he’s just a selfish immature bad town player and I will note to avoid games with him.

[Benmage]

meant to

unvote

[Gelus]

"Alright, guys, look. Please", Kise begs, "don't do this. I mean - urnk." Startled, you look closer, as you're pretty sure he didn't mean to say 'urnk', and he slumps forward onto the ground, a small hole located neatly between his ears on the back of his head oozing blood. His badge shows that he was

Commander Rester

, Near's second-in-command.

Votes have been reset. With 20 alive, it's 11 to lynch.

[Benmage]

Uh.. who died?

Er... Kise. Sorry about that.

Carry on!

[Vi]

...whoa. That... changes a few things... <.<;;;;

One of the things that doesn't change:

Vote: Starbuck

(L-10)

[Vi]

@mod: Please update the topic post.

[Kmd4390]

@Kise: Claim in your next post or die. It's as simple as that.

Did you have anything to do with that?

[Gorrad]

Hmm. Four Deathnotes so far.

[Kairyuu]

Hmm. Interesting.

vote: Lamont

@Kmd: Nope. That wasn't me. If I had daykilling powers I would definitely have killed off Lamont over Mastin D1.

[Starbuck]

I actually didn't realize it was L-1 or I wouldn't have voted and given him a chance to claim.

The thread was moving pretty quick about that time.

[Kmd4390]

Kairyuu, Mastin wasn't the only other death.

[Gorrad]

What townie would kill someone off before a claim? For that matter, what scum would kill someone that close to lynch?

I'm ruling that as a delayed Note kill with /impeccible/ timing.

[Kairyuu]

@Kmd: Aye, but Mastin was the only other daykill. I highly doubt that Gorrad is right, especially since the gunshot flavor is consistant with Mastin's death.

[Kmd4390]

Did you read Myko's Note? Kills can happen EITHER during the day or at night.

[Kairyuu]

Yes, but they must be SUBMITTED at Night. They can kill during the Day, but the number of posts must me specified at Night. Therefore, unless the killer used the same flavor as the D1 kill (which couldn't have been done with a death note) to try to disguise it AND managed such impeccable timing for the post specification, the kill was committed with a plain old gun, not a death note. Occam's Razor says my theory is more likely.

Also, if you are right, then Mastin's killer still hasn't shot, so there would probably be another daykill today if you are somehow correct.

[Kmd4390]

Didn't Myko claim Mastin's kill? Are you saying you don't believe him?

[Kairyuu]

Yes I am. myko had a death note. According to the rules of the death note, myko COULD NOT have submitted the kill on Mastin unless he also has a built-in kill

in addition to

his claimed note-cop ability. He was fakeclaiming dayvig.

@myko: Just to confirm, you were lying about killing Mastin, correct?

[Benmage]

I actually didn't realize it was L-1 or I wouldn't have voted and given him a chance to claim.

The thread was moving pretty quick about that time.

Pay attention before voting, what if you had hammered…

@myko: Just to confirm, you were lying about killing Mastin, correct?

This.

What townie would kill someone off before a claim? For that matter, what scum would kill someone that close to lynch?

I'm ruling that as a delayed Note kill with /impeccible/ timing.

@Kmd: Aye, but Mastin was the only other daykill. I highly doubt that Gorrad is right, especially since the gunshot flavor is consistant with Mastin's death.

Was Mastin the leading vote at the time of his death? Maybe the day-vig has the option, maybe like an executioner(maybe even a scum role)…to kill the leading lynchee and reset the day.

[Starbuck]

I actually didn't realize it was L-1 or I wouldn't have voted and given him a chance to claim.

The thread was moving pretty quick about that time.

Pay attention before voting, what if you had hammered…

But when I voted, it wasn't L-1.

I knew we were close to L-1, and people's votes had gotten in just as I was typing up that post.

[Benmage]

Poor play by Kise too... why so abstinent in claiming that role?

[Benmage]

Star, you made it L-1.

[Starbuck]

Star, you made it L-1.

Re-read my last post.

People had voted as I had typed up my vote post.

[Benmage]

Eh, got it...still be careful.

Vote MBL

noway that can be town play. Anyone have a town meta of his?