Please explain why I wouldn't go for the patented Knight of Cydonia "I have a night-talk with someone and I think they're scum but they won't tell me who they are" claim?Kairyuu wrote:If he had admitted to talking with someone last Night, then he would have had to tell us who it was. If he lied, then the person he claimed to have talked to would have called him on it and he would have been speedlynched. If he would have told the truth, it would mean revealing the name of one of his scumbuddies, and if either of them died, the other would be the automatic next target.
Please note the bolded. The death note can only be destroyed by a scum player during the Night phase. That it was destroyed upon the death of MBL means it must have been a pro-town player doing the killing, because that's the only way they would be destroyed on contact.Rules of Death on page 80 wrote:At night,you may anonymously give away your Death Note to any player. You may also choose to destroy it.
Huh?Kairyuu wrote:@Xyl: You would still have to reveal a name your way, and it would put you in a quasi 1-1 with KoC. If you were lynched, then the name you mentioned would, again, be the next target for the town.
Xylthixlm wrote:Please explain why I wouldn't go for the patented Knight of Cydonia "I have a night-talk with someone and I think they're scum butthey won't tell me who they are" claim?
Xyl, please answer the above..Lamont_Cranston wrote:@Kai & Xyl:
1) What do you think about investigating one of you tonight?
2) Who should we investigate?
3) If the person we investigate comes up clear, do we have your permission to 100% lynch the other person and do we have 100% certainty of being correct?
xyl wrote:I wouldn't mind investigating one of us tonight. I am not going to suggest who because it's pure WIFOM; let the investigator pick. If don't have any real objection to agreeing to be lynched if Kairyuu somehow comes up town, as long as Kairyuu agrees to the same.
Which one sounds more townie to all of you?Kai wrote:@Lamont:
1) I would be fine with it, but keep in mind that it wastes an investigation when lynching one of us would be far faster.
2) I don't care who get's investigated. If it's me it will be town, and if it's Xyl it will not.
3) If the investigation clears me, then yes, you have my full permission to assist me in lynching Xyl. Then again, you can help me lynch him today instead and save time. Hell, you can lynch me and have the dayvig take Xyl down right off the bat tomorrow if you REALLY want to.
@all: the scumteam has been considerably weakened over the last 2 game Days. Motivation for me to put myself into a 1-1 situation is completely nonexistant, as I have drawn only slight suspicion over the course of the game, and it would lead directly to my death even if i got Xyl lynched first. On the other hand, motivation for Xyl to put himself into a 1-1 with a claimed cop, when the alternative is telling the town the name of at least one of his scumbuddies is CONSIDERABLY higher. Correct play for scum in Xyl's situation is to call me a liar. He will die and flip scum regardless, but at the same time he has the potential to take down a cop in the process AND doesn't have to throw a scumbuddy in the line of fire. If you look at the motivations which led to this situation being a 1-1, the choice is quite clear as to who stands to gain the most from lying.
In either of those cases I'd get lynched, obviously. If that's what you meant, you wouldn't have needed the "if". But nice cover.Kairyuu wrote:It'll either clear me or condemn you, so I don't really see what you're getting at here.Xylthixlm wrote:"If the investigation clears me"?
