Phables: Death Note Mafia (Game Over)

[Gorrad]

Yes? Where's the contradiction? Is it impossible for such a group to form after L's death and he simply has no knowledge of it?

I find such a thing unlikely, but a contradiction implies an impossibility, where only one or the other can be true.

Votecount
MafiaSSK -10 (Stephoscope, Gorrad, populartajo, Starbuck, Benmage, LlamaFluff, Kmd4390, Kairyuu, magnus_orion, WeyounsLastClone)
Stephoscope -2 (Lamont Cranston, MafiaSSK)
Starbuck -2 (Vi, ThAdmiral)
Lamont - 1 (MrBuddyLee)
LlamaFluff - 1 (Zwetchenwasser)
NoLynch -1 (mykonian)
Not voting: Millar13, Seraphim, Sir Tornado

I told you, the gods are on my side...

With 20 alive, it's 11 to lynch.

[Starbuck]

So once I'm lynched and proven town, then you guys will lynch Stephy right?

Now you're setting up lynches too?

[LlamaFluff]

So once I'm lynched and proven town, then you guys will lynch Stephy right?

Now you're setting up lynches too?

Thats not really setting up lynches. Also I think LC not hammering SSK is a slight town tell.

[Benmage]

So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

[Gorrad]

So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

Aye. What I want to know is what happens if a townie is on his own lynch wagon. Is he included in the odds of finding/destroying the note?

[Benmage]

So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

Aye. What I want to know is what happens if a townie is on his own lynch wagon. Is he included in the odds of finding/destroying the note?

True that. If that is the case, any townies should self-hammer.

[Kairyuu]

Mmk. Benmage pretty much just confessed to being a Shinigami. Time to die.

unvote
vote: benmage

We either lynch him now or risk scum taking the death note he's worried about protecting.

@all:

I repeat. Benmage has confessed to being a Shinigami in his questions about how a Shinigami can hang onto their death notes. We need to lynch him before the scum have a chance to take it

@Gorrad:

What I want to know is what happens if a townie is on his own lynch wagon. Is he included in the odds of finding/destroying the note?

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic here. Why would a townie have a note in the first place? It would be destroyed instantly, so they would never have it while in the process of being lynched.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Yes? Where's the contradiction? Is it impossible for such a group to form after L's death and he simply has no knowledge of it?

I find such a thing unlikely, but a contradiction implies an impossibility, where only one or the other can be true.

Now you're reaching. I can't believe you are actually trying to say that Stepho can outright contradict SSK and somehow they both can be town having both claimed power roles with vision. This is such a mental twist your brain looks like a pretzel.

It is

very

clear that they both cannot be town or scum together. Why are you denying this??

[ThAdmiral]

So you are voting for me for not jumping on a unsteady bandwagon? Wow. That's a first.

No. As I said there would be reasons a scum wouldn't do that. For example if somehow you knew stepho didn't have a deathnote, or if he was a scumpartner, or if you were just changing your habit because you had received so much heat for jumping on wagons previously.
You would have been my second option regardless of whether you had gone on the wagon or not.

@ stephoscope: can you try to breadcrumb the person (obviously make this very discreet/cryptic so the scum can't figure it out) who is in your task force and then tell that person how you breadcrumbed them during this upcoming night so they can reveal themselves at a later day if they need to?

This would seem to be strictly prohibited by the rules.

tisn't.

So will you do it now?

@ gorrad: as kariyuu said townies can't have a death note.

@ kariyuu: can you please elaborate on benmage?

[Stephoscope]

tisn't.

So will you do it now?

Possibly.

[Stephoscope]

I've heard that north of the museum, there is a building in which two guys are shaking hands.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I've heard that north of the museum, there is a building in which two guys are shaking hands.

Quoted for someone to explain Whiskey Tango Foxtrot this is.

[magnus_orion]

Yes? Where's the contradiction? Is it impossible for such a group to form after L's death and he simply has no knowledge of it?

I find such a thing unlikely, but a contradiction implies an impossibility, where only one or the other can be true.

Now you're reaching. I can't believe you are actually trying to say that Stepho can outright contradict SSK and somehow they both can be town having both claimed power roles with vision. This is such a mental twist your brain looks like a pretzel.

It is

very

clear that they both cannot be town or scum together. Why are you denying this??

no, false, and wrong. Gorrad is absolutely correct.

I willing to lynch benmage off of his question, but I'm not sure that that course of action is concievable within the amount of time we have left.

I've heard that north of the museum, there is a building in which two guys are shaking hands.

WTF?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Yes? Where's the contradiction? Is it impossible for such a group to form after L's death and he simply has no knowledge of it?

I find such a thing unlikely, but a contradiction implies an impossibility, where only one or the other can be true.

Now you're reaching. I can't believe you are actually trying to say that Stepho can outright contradict SSK and somehow they both can be town having both claimed power roles with vision. This is such a mental twist your brain looks like a pretzel.

It is

very

clear that they both cannot be town or scum together. Why are you denying this??

no, false, and wrong. Gorrad is absolutely correct.

Ok so both Gorrd and MO think that somehow both SSK & Stepho can be town here regardless of how they both have claimed vision power roles and 100% contradict each other. Anyone else care to agree with their erroneous opinion?

[Stephoscope]

Ok so both Gorrd and MO think that somehow both SSK & Stepho can be town here regardless of how they both have claimed vision power roles and 100% contradict each other. Anyone else care to agree with their erroneous opinion?

Sure, I agree with them. I think it's very, very unlikely, but anything's possible.

[Kairyuu]

@TheAdmiral:

So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

Right here. He wants to know if there would be a chance for him to keep his death note if he self-votes. He's Shinigami with a death note. We need to lynch him NOW before the scum take it.

@magnus: We have a near guaranteed death note hit if we lynch Benmage, and if we don't lynch him, the scum have a high likelyhood of taking it without us knowing. If you hesitate then we lose the chance we have. If absolutely necessary we can switch back to SSK to avoid a No-Lynch, but that should be done only as a LAST RESORT. I'm not giving up a death note to the scum because of people being INDECISIVE!

[Benmage]

Mmk. Benmage pretty much just confessed to being a Shinigami. Time to die.

unvote
vote: benmage

We either lynch him now or risk scum taking the death note he's worried about protecting.

@all:

I repeat. Benmage has confessed to being a Shinigami in his questions about how a Shinigami can hang onto their death notes. We need to lynch him before the scum have a chance to take it

You’re an idiot Kai. If I wasn’t obv-town, and actually had a PR. I’d subtly ask the mod this in a pm. Jesus.

@Gorrad:

What I want to know is what happens if a townie is on his own lynch wagon. Is he included in the odds of finding/destroying the note?

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic here. Why would a townie have a note in the first place? It would be destroyed instantly, so they would never have it while in the process of being lynched.

Lol, *cough* I’m a dumbass *cough*…

I willing to lynch benmage off of his question, but I'm not sure that that course of action is concievable within the amount of time we have left.

Absurd

@TheAdmiral:

So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

Right here. He wants to know if there would be a chance for him to keep his death note if he self-votes. He's Shinigami with a death note. We need to lynch him NOW before the scum take it.

@magnus: We have a near guaranteed death note hit if we lynch Benmage, and if we don't lynch him, the scum have a high likelyhood of taking it without us knowing. If you hesitate then we lose the chance we have. If absolutely necessary we can switch back to SSK to avoid a No-Lynch, but that should be done only as a LAST RESORT. I'm not giving up a death note to the scum because of people being INDECISIVE!

This is so pathetic let’s do it!

Unvote

vote Benmage

[Benmage]

Clearly a joke unvote

vote MafiaSSK

[LlamaFluff]

@magnus: We have a near guaranteed death note hit if we lynch Benmage, and if we don't lynch him, the scum have a high likelyhood of taking it without us knowing. If you hesitate then we lose the chance we have. If absolutely necessary we can switch back to SSK to avoid a No-Lynch, but that should be done only as a LAST RESORT. I'm not giving up a death note to the scum because of people being INDECISIVE!

No time. I dont expect to be able to swing ten votes in 30 hours, especially since scum would try and stall the wagon (why risk lynching and destruction when they can NK?). There is a distinct possibility that what ends up happening if we try and lynch Ben is the wagon starts and stalls/has proveable claim/doesnt build in time and then we cant even lynch SSK.

I am much more for the chance of taking out a note from SSK then from maybe ending up with no dead scum, no note, maybe a NK from SSK, and scum with a note from Ben reagardless of what we did. Worst case scenario weighs heavier then best case scenario, so im not for the Ben quicklynch.

[Benmage]

[quote="LlamaFluff"
There is a distinct possibility that what ends up happening if we try and lynch Ben is the wagon starts and stalls/has proveable claim/doesnt build in time and then we cant even lynch SSK.
[/quote]
gogo logic. I really don't want to claim. But this scenario sounds exactly like what would've happened.

[magnus_orion]

Mmk. Benmage pretty much just confessed to being a Shinigami. Time to die.

unvote
vote: benmage

We either lynch him now or risk scum taking the death note he's worried about protecting.

@all:

I repeat. Benmage has confessed to being a Shinigami in his questions about how a Shinigami can hang onto their death notes. We need to lynch him before the scum have a chance to take it

You’re an idiot Kai. If I wasn’t obv-town, and actually had a PR. I’d subtly ask the mod this in a pm. Jesus.

@Gorrad:

What I want to know is what happens if a townie is on his own lynch wagon. Is he included in the odds of finding/destroying the note?

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic here. Why would a townie have a note in the first place? It would be destroyed instantly, so they would never have it while in the process of being lynched.

Lol, *cough* I’m a dumbass *cough*…

I willing to lynch benmage off of his question, but I'm not sure that that course of action is concievable within the amount of time we have left.

Absurd

@TheAdmiral:

So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

Right here. He wants to know if there would be a chance for him to keep his death note if he self-votes. He's Shinigami with a death note. We need to lynch him NOW before the scum take it.

@magnus: We have a near guaranteed death note hit if we lynch Benmage, and if we don't lynch him, the scum have a high likelyhood of taking it without us knowing. If you hesitate then we lose the chance we have. If absolutely necessary we can switch back to SSK to avoid a No-Lynch, but that should be done only as a LAST RESORT. I'm not giving up a death note to the scum because of people being INDECISIVE!

This is so pathetic let’s do it!

Unvote

vote Benmage

In this thread, benmage's defense consists of nothing but ad hom attacks.

[Benmage]

In this thread, benmage's defense consists of nothing but ad hom attacks.

Not entirely true:

If I wasn’t obv-town, and actually had a PR. I’d subtly ask the mod this in a pm.

But other than ad hom, what else is there?

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote, vote Benmage

[Benmage]

See^^ I'm totally town.

[magnus_orion]

In this thread, benmage's defense consists of nothing but ad hom attacks.

Not entirely true:

If I wasn’t obv-town, and actually had a PR. I’d subtly ask the mod this in a pm.

But other than ad hom, what else is there?

A detailed explanation of what drove you to ask the question in the first place?