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Mini 1783: GTA 2 Mafia (GaME OVAH)
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Alright, I want to lynch either Dragon or Ranger today. Im prob. not finishing my catchup today but those two both claiming investigative sticks out.
I'm sure at least one of them are lying.
For the cop -- Questions: 1) Is your sanity guaranteed 2) Did you really think you were gonna be lynched that early
For the watcher -- 1) Watcher is more often a Mafia role than a Town role. Your argument that watcher is immenseky helpful for town is useless if you arent a town watcher.-
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In post 394, Masquerade wrote:See, DK, I played a game once where I was tracker and I confirmed nightactions, and then the next night townies died because I was a scum tracker. And there was a 3rd party dayvig. And a survivor. I don't know what to expect in games like this so I expect everything and nothing at the same time. (btw, this game was with my main so no link)Spoiler:
There is no information about whether or not there is a 3rd party, if there is I missed it, in that case point me to it. So we don't know. At least, I don't know.
I want to believe you re jeanne, but you're just not a strong enough townread for me rn.
And could you guys please keep signing your posts.
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In post 672, Code of Honor wrote:Hey Ircher, what are your thoughts on the Ranger wagon? You said you wanted to lynch Dragon or Ranger, but now that Ranger picks up you forgot that sentiment entirely.
I was semi-joking when I said that, albeit the fact I dont believe both are town due to the claims.-
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You dont lynch someone just cuz they have a string scum game. Ranger has an equally strong town game, so your point is?
Jeanne was scummy for lurking, generally, I'd like to PL any lurking slots. But, the slot claimed watcher -- not lynching a potentially useful role that is also a very powerful player D1.-
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1. When I post my notes and point out of a few of your tunneling posts, I think you (might) understand
2. No arguing there, but still not lynching a skilled player that often gets nk'd as town anyone D1 just cuz they claim a role that is more often scum.
Past page 22. Saw Magna's stupid case(s) against Ranger. I gave responses to one of the walls in my notes.
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Spoiler: Mini 1783 - Replacement Catchup Notes
My reads are fyi, not solely based on this, but those I comment more frequently tend to be my stronger (typically scum) reads.
And yes, you SHOULD read this and anything else I put in spoilers before you ask me for clarifications on my stance.
Magna's still my top scumread, with Scourge 2nd and FA_Q2 3rd.
Ranger is my top townread with Dragon (unfortunately) second and Polar 3rd.-
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In post 696, Dragon Knight wrote:Those are the WORST catchup notes I've ever seen. If this game doesn't turning around, im replacing out. This is without a doubt the worst town (unless all of the active ones are scum) I've ever seen.
FB is already pissed at you anyways. Stop sucking, guys.
PEdit: You... Prove my point. If that's all it takes for you to townread someone, you're either crappy town or scum.
I don't think your in a position to judge considering how poir your play has also been this game, Just my 2 cents.-
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Lets lynch Magna. Its imo def. the better lynch regardless of whether you think Ranger is scum cuz we're not lynching an outed, potentially very useful, investigative role that is actually contributing to discussion.-
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And no, I'm not a very strong town player. Looking at my meta would show that. I've been mislynched a lot cuz I do things that dont make sense/are bad. BBut, you're not perfect too, so you should try to be nicer and more humble rather than insisting you are always right and anyone who disagrees is dumb.
Pride is the root of all evil.-
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In post 704, Code of Honor wrote:In post 684, Dragon Knight wrote:Ircher, Ranger is quite good at faking a town game, and her slot, Jeanne, was 5 billion percent scum. She is a very good lynch.
Couple things here. First, Ranger is not likely scum. Jeanne also does not keep claims to herself much. Her claiming after a full cop claim isn't scummy at all, since multiple cop like roles rarely exist in the same setup.Counterpoint YCBA IV. The reference by Jeanne was a call to me specifically. I was a little wierded by it but given Jeanne's full claim the reach to me made sense. She wanted someone to know she was counterclaiming.
What should be more alarming is that Ranger has suddenly jumped to top townreadafter I pushed Ircher to make a decision. The reasons that Ircher provides are solely related to the claim by Jeanne. Same with he reasons for DK being town. He was aware of both claims being what they were when I began pushing him. Ranger was right to see who was jumping on the wagon but missed this glaring inconsistent retreat by Ircher. Ircher didn't have reasons to townread Ranger based on play. The townread is likely because there are too many scum on Ranger's wagon.
VOTE: Ircher
Go learn to read!
I can tell you just skimmed and didn't bother paying attn, otherwise you wouldn't be making such accusations such as "Reading Ranger solely on Jeanne's claim" -- That couldn't be any further from the truth.-
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In post 706, The Banterlords wrote:In post 705, The Banterlords wrote:I'm not reading super in depth all I know is that I'll compromise on dom most likely. Ranger and DK shouldn't be lynched today under any circumstances (town reading them and they claim important roles) so yea
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How about Magnus?
Or Code who obviously bothers not to read and then starts throwing invalid accusations as people?-
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Look at what I bolded. Its not hard to know that my read isnt solely based on the claim.-
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In post 712, Code of Honor wrote:
Let's break down why this reads list is terrible.
First section, his largest townreads are not for their play. He says Ranger is off the table for today, based on their claim, not based on play. That's inconsistent with a 90% townread. DK also isn't town by play according to Ircher. He previously said both claims are unlikely to be town, but he takes zero opportunity to pressure or investigate Ranger when a wagon arises. These posts reek of the very concern Ranger had on me (which is why I was pressuring Ircher)
No, this is a lie. I like Ranger's play amd how she's actually scumhunting, can you not read??? With Dragon, the claim holds a lot of weight, but I feel his motives are genuine. Stop misrepping me so much.
Polar also isn't based on play. Polar is based on a style that reduces bias. Well guess what, play style is not alignment indicative at all. During his catchup actually talking about specifics, Polar was scum. Here's another oooh claim cannot lynch D1. Given the reason why Ircher says Polar is town, I am relatively confident Polar is town with wrong reads and Ircher is budding here.
I'm town. Always town. You cannot dispute such a fact! But seriously, not buddying. I rarely comment on town stuff in my catchup notes etc cuz it sounds pretty dumb when I put it in words. As far as playstyle being null, I guess that's true, but I still keep my read as the playstyle seems to be one more likely from town than scum.
He's also done ooh lurking bullshit repeatedly. I know I was VLA (not sure on the others), yet the lurking thing is applied wholly selectively. The next few reads are "doing nothing" yet get assigned values through RNG.
Masq and FA I gave 0% for practically doing nothing. I commented why I was one way or another for the pthers. And, I am not lurking. My preddecessor, yes, but me, absolutely not. Stop being ridiculous. Finally, the numbers -- Okay, sometimes, the numbers are semi-random (but note, never generated by a RNG), but the numbers mean relative confidence generally.... Except for confirmed town reads cuz well.... They're confirmed!
Then we get to the sole read based on play. Magua. This read boils down to the Ranger push is one I disagree with and therefore cannot be town motivated. It's also heavily discrediting a scumread on Ranger despite Ircher's words indicating a much weaker townread.
This is not a catchup of someone scumhunting at all.
I even addressed one of his walls, and yet you say MY townread of Ranger is weak? Go get some rest and then we can talk.-
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In post 720, Code of Honor wrote:In post 717, Ircher wrote:So this is Titus....
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You can complain all you want about me today, but the lynch is unlikely.
You can join the Magna wagon or the Ranger wagon; good luck woth any other wagon
Nah. Those wagons both suck. Ranger has a remote chance of being a partner but I want you or FA primarily. I don't think I would hammer Magua at deadline given how much I want you gone.
Thanks for telling me you won't bus. Also, why did it matter for you to state which head was posting before trying to discourage a wagon on yourself.
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Cuz you've played with me before..... And I can't believe you are being so ridiculous.-
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In post 726, TheDominator37 wrote:In post 685, Ircher wrote:You dont lynch someone just cuz they have a string scum game. Ranger has an equally strong town game, so your point is?
Jeanne was scummy for lurking, generally, I'd like to PL any lurking slots. But, the slot claimed watcher -- not lynching a potentially useful role that is also a very powerful player D1.
So we should PL half the game? Good idea
To clarify: Those who are doing extensive lurking: FA and Masq rn.
But, why are you guys being so keen on spotting the "slightest" flaw. And am I pushing for a PL roght now? I dont think so.-
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In post 730, Code of Honor wrote:Ircher, saying the phrase "scumhunting" is a vacuum buzzword. It means nothing. As for addressing a Ranger wall, I cannot see it. You haven't elaborated on why Ranger's town at all. Even now, your position is Ranger or Magua must die. Yet, rather than address why those MUST be the lynches for today, you're just discrediting my observations on you. You don't defend why Ranger is a viable wagon to you despite being a top townread or why Magua is a good scumread.
If you think Magua is such a good scumread, why are you placing zero effort to lynch her?
If you think Ranger is town, why do you leave Ranger as a viable wagon despite being supposedly against their lynch today?
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I said Magna wall illustratong why all the points against Ranger are rather void and poor.-
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In post 733, TheDominator37 wrote:In post 728, Ircher wrote:In post 726, TheDominator37 wrote:In post 685, Ircher wrote:You dont lynch someone just cuz they have a string scum game. Ranger has an equally strong town game, so your point is?
Jeanne was scummy for lurking, generally, I'd like to PL any lurking slots. But, the slot claimed watcher -- not lynching a potentially useful role that is also a very powerful player D1.
So we should PL half the game? Good idea
To clarify: Those who are doing extensive lurking: FA and Masq rn.
But, why are you guys being so keen on spotting the "slightest" flaw. And am I pushing for a PL roght now? I dont think so.
Oh you just want to lynch people because they disagree with you. My bad.
Stop with the sarcasm. Ive yet to express a scumread on you... Dont make me change my mind.-
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Just how far are you gonna go to try to misrep me?
Pedit: Yes, that's true, but the reasons that Magna has given seem to have some thought put into them, to make them look good, but when you examine them a bit closer, they're ridiculous. In other words, they are trying to push an easy lynch on Ranger.
Pedit2: @Dom - Just shut up if you cannot read, okay? You're not even trying to understand my perspective.
Pedit3: @Code - I cannot control other players opinions. It's nearly deadline; the only two who have a decent chance to be lynched are Magna and Ranger. I've akready expressed my views on the though I cannot argue with facts like that.-
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In post 743, Code of Honor wrote:In post 740, Dragon Knight wrote:This is 100% scum!titus
Which head is this? Sign please. It will help me determine your alignment. Pretty sure FA and Ircher are scum, BBT, Polar, Ranger, Magua are town. So I would like to determine if you're dumb or scum.
In post 742, Ircher wrote:Hey Titus, go do me a favor:
Go review Ice Cream Mafia (1769) and tell me if this does or does not resemble my play there. Ok, thanks!-
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In post 745, Ircher wrote:I'm leaning toward town Titus rn tbh though.... She was this way in Ice Cream Mafia too last time I remember
Stry, EBWOP-
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In post 801, BlackStar wrote:Anyone could do that as town or scum though
Indeed, true, which is why I still hold a scumread, but obviously, it makes me reconsider the motive behind their posts.-
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In post 816, Ranger wrote:Hmph.
Spineless coward.
Code of Honor was online.
They haven't posted a claim in spite of intent.
They're scum.
I agree with both these statements!-
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In post 845, The Banterlords wrote:I am mad I can't even call ds / firebringer an idiot because THEY DONT FUCKING SIGN /rant
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pedit that is great we're letting them claim
I am just like my country, I am young scrappy and hungry
pedit and yet I get mislynched very frequently. mm k
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