Open 319: Jungle Republic - Day 5: Calamity *GAME OVER*
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BBmolla wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:BBmolla wrote:@Deity: Could you explain this for me? Voting yourself never helps anyone.
Also tyhess could you possibly get an avatar?
??????????
Do you know what RVS stands for...
Random Voting Stage
While I agree, do you really think a vote on yourself contributes any more to the town any more than not participating in it at all?
What kind of questioning is this?...
Stop implying that I'm a dumbass...-
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Sky wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:FightingShadow wrote:Why did you Unvote?
For CMPunk's reasoning, a wagon that I had not understood.
Why'd you join?
And why are we discussing what the seer should do? It's a waste of time if you ask me.
I don't recall being apart of the Seer discussion and I don't feel comfortable with all these questions either.-
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Sky wrote:Then what are you doing? If you don't feel comfortable getting asked questions, get used to it. It's all part of the game.
Sure, here's this.
1. How many games have you played on MS?
2. On a scale of 1-10, how well would you consider yourself overall?
3. How do you feel about policy lynching?
4. Do you think that Ray will actually flip scum?
5. List 3 Reasons you think Ray is scum or not, provide examples.
6. How much have you actually contributed this game?
7. How much has anyone actually contributed this game?
8. Why do you think not answering questions is scummy?
9. Are you familiar with the current setup, have you played a Jungle Republic game before, if not, than do you have any questions?
10. Have you heard the name "DK" or "DeityKabuto" before entering this game?
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Oh, and here's 10 more. I hope you like answering questions, because we really aren't talking until then.
11. How do you feel about No-Lynching?
12. Why do you see everyone as a sexless non-entity, that is a false statement, ya' know?
13. Are you male or female?
14. How many games have you won as Town?
15. How good are you contributing to the Town?
16. How many people in this game, and Who do you actually know here or are familiar with?
17. Is English your first language?
18. Do you enjoy asking questions?
19. Do you enjoy answering questions?
20. How many questions have you answered so far and what is your capacity (limit) to how much you can actually answer?
Sky wrote:I'm not including you in on the seer discussion. And here's another question : what questions are you not comfortable with?
None. I am just not comfortable with the rate I am being asked. o.o"
"Why do you expect him to answer questions but you won't DK?"-
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Ray Montano wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:Ray Montano wrote:Sooo you're accusing someone of cheating?
no
If they're the same person using two different usernames in the same game then they're cheating. Why would you say that if you don't believe it?
No, it's the reaction I gauged at the rate and style of their posting.
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BBmolla wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:tyhess wrote:What?? Just answer the question
What do I do, that's what I want to know.
Why are you making things so difficult?
How about this, why did you vote? And why did you unvote?
I voted because Thor told me to and I know Thor.
I unvoted because even though Thor told me so, I didn't know what the wagon was all about.-
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BBmolla wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:BBmolla wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:tyhess wrote:What?? Just answer the question
What do I do, that's what I want to know.
Why are you making things so difficult?
How about this, why did you vote? And why did you unvote?
I voted because Thor told me to and I know Thor.
I unvoted because even though Thor told me so, I didn't know what the wagon was all about.
Don't you think there is a possibility Thor is scum?
Yup.-
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whispersilk wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:whispersilk wrote:Sky wrote:I'll answer Deity's 20 questions since he feels uncomfortable answering three questions...
Oh yes, he doesn't like answering the tough ones.
You haven't completed any games with me. '-'
I know, but we're coming to the end of that game, and you were a complete ass. The only thing that saved you was a cop's claim.
I'm actually trying to help you here. So shut up, and if you are town, start acting like it or you're gonna get lynched.
okay sorry, but I really think that people are being opportunistic here trying to quick lynch me, the day just started-
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whispersilk wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:
okay sorry, but I really think that people are being opportunistic here trying to quick lynch me, the day just started
Frankly, I don't blame them. You come off scummy.
Anyway, going to read now.
What was it that I did which was scummy?
The not answering questions and making them question me even more?
Also, some of the votes on me were from RVS, so I don't think those people are all that scum, unless they keep their vote on me for a long time.-
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Sky wrote:Well my over all reason for voting you Deity is because you are a contradiction.
1) You joined the Ray wagon to opportunistic, now that you face death you say that you were too much of a quicklynch. I actually agree, I don't want to see you lynched just yet, but still, you're contradicting yourself.
2) I'm apparently Shadow. But we're not cheating.
3) You are uncomfortable being asked 3 questions, you completely shut down and tell me you won't talk to me until I answer 20 bogus ones. And then you say you like answering questions.
4) For the questions you do answer, you're vague and blame people for being confusing. Just answer the question.
5) You're raging way too hard this early in the game. I advise you do what your avatar is doing and calm down. I think you've achieved that at least.
I'll reinstate this in plain English:
Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you?
Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others?
Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you? It just is.
Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others? Why? Because all your doing is putting my in a bad position and dragging my out of my safety back so you can push and pull on me with your questions.-
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Ray Montano wrote:I'm not advocating a DK lynch right now, but I've got to say if someone had hammered I wouldn't have been too upset to see DK leave. I'm not a fan of players who throw pity parties for themselves when they're on the chopping block. I would, however, have been upset the day ended so early. So next time anyone's on the chopping block (myself included) it'd be awesome to have real discussions instead of "DON'T FUCKING HAMMER ME IF YOU WANT A MISLYNCH". Like...really...
What do you want me to say?
YOU GUYS WERE TRYING TO GET ME LYNCHED AND MAKKE THE TOWN LOSE.-
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DeityKabuto's Content V.1.0
I will simply do a complete ISO on every player in this game, and compare it to interactions with other players they have had with their actions, votes, etc. With that data combined, I will form an analysis of my reads via the player themself.Setup:
[/color]{Town-aligned, Leaning-town, Null-town, Null-read, Null-scum, Leaning-scum, Scum-aligned}
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I will also rate you on a scale of 1-10 on your performance via the game, how much content you're giving and how much you are actually helping the town.Ratings:
This is my second Jungle Republic game, I've played another one before >> Here << back then in April, I was a major Newbie so I was really sucky. The setup was the same and everything. I didn't pile up that many votes early on, but people did suspect me. I was a Vanilla Town, and I made it to the end. What you have to keep in mind is that the Mafia will also lie and say their are Town and try and get you to mislynch, etc. SO if you actually are a Vanilla Town, it's best if you form your own reads, opinions, etc early on because you don't know who's mafia lying, etc! Well that's all, moving on to ISO(s)...Jungle Republic Background Knowledge:
ISO Sector
kondi2424
Rating:0.1/10
Alignment-Read:Null-read
Notes:
1. I might have played with you.
2. You have been pretty inactive so far. (@MOD: I request a prod on kondi2424)
3. Your vote on me is still from RVS, not much else to say about you.
ISO:
Post #22... At least give reasoning to a policy lynch for DK.
TheFool
Rating:3/10
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar, you do not post much.
ISO:
Post #60... Here you say and I quote "Hey everyone, interesting game so far!" yet your activity doesn't show it. Scum flying under the radar, maybe? To live and go by unnoticed.
TheFool wrote:The Ray wagon has virtue beyond Thor's evidence.
VOTE: Ray Montano
Later on you leave that wagon and hop on mine, opportunistic scum, caught here, especially with you flying under the radar and all.
TheFool wrote:This is stupid. DK, pick a stance and stick with it. They're either cheating or they aren't. Your vote doesn't need to be on a different player every page. Stop arbitrarily refusing to answer questions if your just going to answer different ones 5 minutes later.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: DeityKabuto
Here you say to pick a stance and stick with it, weren't you so sure about your vote on Ray Montano?
Post #164... Help? What've you done this game so far that helps the town, please tell me?...
Sky
Rating:5/10 (some of your posts against me are a bit understandable but serious your activity and lack of content sucks, so far you aren't an asset to the town and your vote on me is pretty much opportunistic, quick lynch town sort of thing. There are many scum in this game for the town to rid of and if you lynch me the town will be at odds even quicker)
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
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1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You do not post that much, flying under the radar.
3. Your center of attention revolves around DK, bad if you are serious about winning as Town.
ISO:
Post #30... Here you claim to have prior experience with Shadow, and CMPunk (referring to you calling CM a punk ass, assuming you might know him)
Post #94... You started the whole question trauma thing with me and you are currently on my wagon.Oh and Tell me, how is someone like you with 10 posts, no case so certain that I am scum? You are flying under the radar more, it's only common for me to point it out and you haven't posted any content or contributed. You said my Quicky Reads were useless, but what Reads have you done? 0. Exactly, kthx. At least, I try unlike you and your punk ass.
Post #100... Your questions are weak, it's hard to explain but answering them won't really get us anywhere except for tunneling back and forth, it's tiring, that's why I avoided.
Sky wrote:Unvote: CMPunk
Vote: DeityKabuto
Both of your Votes are useless, without a case.
Sky wrote:Well my over all reason for voting you Deity is because you are a contradiction.
1) You joined the Ray wagon to opportunistic, now that you face death you say that you were too much of a quicklynch. I actually agree, I don't want to see you lynched just yet, but still, you're contradicting yourself.
2) I'm apparently Shadow. But we're not cheating.
3) You are uncomfortable being asked 3 questions, you completely shut down and tell me you won't talk to me until I answer 20 bogus ones. And then you say you like answering questions.
4) For the questions you do answer, you're vague and blame people for being confusing. Just answer the question.
5) You're raging way too hard this early in the game. I advise you do what your avatar is doing and calm down. I think you've achieved that at least.
I'll reinstate this in plain English:
Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you?
Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others?
1. Your vote on me isn't opportunistic?
2. That is blind reasoning, it has less to do with who's scum.
3. More blind reasoning.
4. More blind reasoning.
5.I RAGE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE QUICK LYNCHING SO THE TOWN WILL LOSE, FUCKING IDIOTS EVERYONE IN THIS GAME IS FUCKING IGNORANT.
BBmolla
Rating:7/10
Alignment-Read:Leaning-town
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1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of, I'm actually taking a liking to your style.
3. You tend to focus on DK more than any other player which is a bit of a trend in your Pro-town pattern.
ISO:
Post #26... Slight Pro-town feeling here..
Post #31... More Pro-town, my Self-voting caught the actual Pro town players in this game.
Post #125... Less of blind questioning...
Post #128... Yes, of course.
Post #134... Poor logic, I suggest you Unvote now.
Post #210... If I was scum, what would be your reasoning? Do you have strong evidence or logic, etc?
CMPunk
Rating:2/10
Alignment-Read:Null-scum (Just like a few others, you don't contribution much and you take the opportunistic ride onto my wagon)
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar with little contribution.
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Post #28... This.
Post #86... Weak Reasoning. Worthy of a vote? Sure. Worthy of a lynch? Not likely.
FightingShadow
Rating:4/10
Alignment-Read:Null-town (You seem a bit pro-town but post more, please)
Notes:
1. I might have played a game with you, but do not recall.
2. You are flying under the radar like a few others, post more, please. This is an 8 post ISO on you lmaox.
ISO:
Post #27... Here you announce that you are playing under an alternate account so you won't reveal your Meta.
Fighting Shadow wrote:
Also, everyone should read the setup - the Mafia cannot kill. While they are a threat, the Werewolves are the only ones killing us at night.
Quoted so everyone will stay aware.
whispersilk
Rating:5/10
Alignment-Read:Null-town
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1. I am currently in an Ongoing game with you, you are a skilled Newbie.
2. I want you to post more, seriously. If you are going to be inactive like this you could be Mafia or Werewolf flying under the radar to survive, you have potential~
ISO:
Post #9... Self voting is not bad DK. I helped win Open 307 by Self voting and I survived as Town too.
whispersilk wrote:Guys, DK is rage posting like he did at me when I called him out for avoiding my question for three pages in our other game. He made similar pleas to avoid a mislynch. Turns out he was town. Not saying he isn't scum or wolf, just saying his play here is almost a mirror of his rage and dodgy behaviour in my other game. He posts like an idiot, and is hard to understand, but I think he should be given a chance to explain himself and clear things up.
So no hammer yet, plzy.
Gonna try and catch up with the other 4 pages I've missed.
I usually rage when I actually am Town and people are lynching me for bad behaviors so EZ without a probable case or anything of that sort.More than 75% of those on my wagon only provided 1-2 lines of explanation, may not even be full sentences.
whispersilk wrote:I knew I should have subbed out of this game.
/sigh
Cheer up
DonJosh
Rating:1/10 (inactive, flying under radar)
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I think I've been in a game with you.
2. Another inactive, geez.
ISO:
Post #145...I AM VANILLA TOWN DON JOSH, NOW START POSTING STUFF THAT IS CONSISTENT AND WORTH THE MENTION, ONLY WEREWOLF WANT TO KNOW CLAIMS SO THEY'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO TO KILL.
tyhess
Rating:5/10
Alignment-Read:Null
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
ISO:
Post #12... trololol...
Post #53... Unexplained vote.
Ray Montano
Rating:8/10
Alignment-Read:Leaning-town
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You sir are Pro-town.
ISO:
Post #67... Pro-town here... nice
Post #126... lol
Ray Montano wrote:I'm not advocating a DK lynch right now, but I've got to say if someone had hammered I wouldn't have been too upset to see DK leave. I'm not a fan of players who throw pity parties for themselves when they're on the chopping block. I would, however, have been upset the day ended so early. So next time anyone's on the chopping block (myself included) it'd be awesome to have real discussions instead of "DON'T FUCKING HAMMER ME IF YOU WANT A MISLYNCH". Like...really...
Hehe, I would like you to post your reads after this, about Thor being scum and my potential scum listings.
"I don't care. Ask questions, argue it out, anything but whining about being lynched."
I understand.
Ray Montano wrote:Who says I've ever been good at scumhunting? Why are you playing this game based off so much supposed meta?
Noone, because you haven't.
Thor665
Rating:6.5/10
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I have played games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of.
ISO:
Post #52... Obv... scum. No time for a Quick lynch, reasoning is poor.
Thor665 wrote:The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.
You can't be serious.
[quote="Wooosh - no quick lynch? ::sadface::
Okay, let's lay out some reactions to that wagon.
Tyhess is probably town.
The Fool never answered the 'deeper' reasons to vote Ray, did he? He should really answer that - like - na0w!
Fighting Shadows is probably town.
DK is...DK. I could get behind a policy lynch there but I think we could probably do better - Werewolves should totally kill him though, he gets crazy effective at scumhunting starting Day 3.
Could someone explain to me why it was scummy that DK called two players as having a similar playstyle? That (and question derpiness) seems to be the case on him. I'm down with the derpiness but the other thing...whuh? Explain pl0x, I'm ready to sheep onto that in a second once I know why it's scummy.
Ray should still be lynched, unless someone can quote me a post where he is actually scumhunting. He's an experienced player and he doesn't seem to know how to scumhunt - that doesn't worry anyone else? It worries the everlovin' frell out of me.[/quote]
Taking note of this, if Werewolves do kill me than your scum. Either way, I think you are a bit scummy, that serious vote on Ray had no case whatsoever and you mentioned plans for a quick lynch. And right now if you hammer me, than your scum. Except unlike other players, you are actually using your brains, pro-town, I wouldn't be for your lynch today.
ISO(S) Complete...
Major Wagon Analysis
Red = scum
Black = null
Blue = town
July 29th:
DeityKabuto (3/7) -DonJosh, kondi2424,CMPunk
Ray Montano (4/7) -Thor665,tyhess, TheFool, FightingShadow
July 31st:
DeityKabuto (6/7) -DonJosh, kondi2424,CMPunk, Sky, BBmolla, TheFool
CMPunk (1/7) - FightingShadow <- Pro town vote, at least he gave legit reasons
Ray Montano (1/7) - Thor665 <- Meh, if Thor is scum Ray is town. If Ray is scum, Thor is town. There.
Potential Scum Teams:
Possible 1:
Werewolfs: (DonJosh, tyhess)
Mafia: (Thor665, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??
For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CMPunk for pushing on my lynch with weak reasoning, only benefits Mafia so they will see the flip and have an idea of what to do next.
Possible 2:
Werewolfs: (DonJosh, kondi2424)
Mafia: (Ray Montano, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??
Explanation: For Werewolf. DonJosh, asking to claim to limit suspects for a Nkill and kondi wanting a DK Policy lynch to have two Scum kills over D1 to D2.
For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CM, save reasons above.
...Analyzing
Most Probable lynches for today:Thor665, Ray Montano, DonJosh, DeityKabuto (hopefully not, this was just be an innocent town lynch, you have my word, I will not say anything else and just focus on catching scum for the remainder of the day), CMPunk
I can't decide who to vote Ray Montano or Thor soVote CMPunk
RayMontano hasn't voted Thor for attacking him, which makes me want to vote him and he is in a bad position right now.
Thor's earlier reasoning for voting Ray weren't that strong, but he stuck with his reads and is pushing for his lynch, that is real scummy, a scum championing so hard for a town's lynch, makes me want to vote Thor. But I can't decide, so I will start CM's wagon, kind of a placeholder vote since I also suspect CMPunk to be either werewolf or Mafia.
Ray isn't in the best position, and hasn't done anything
DeityKabuto's Rants About Questioning wrote:
Okay, to clear up the questioning thing, here you go. The thing about questions and humans is a broad statement. A question is asked when someone is curious. Depending on the question asks will determine whether you get an answer or not. There are no such thing as "wrong" questions but you may not be asking the right ones therefore the person you ask may refuse to answer. The right questions lead to a deeper understanding and will help you find what you're looking for. When asking a question, always think of the best way to ask the person, so you will get the best response. That is all.
Vote If you disagree with my scum reads, do not simply say you DISAGREE or I will find you scummy and put you on blast. Provide solid reasons for disagreeing or else you are trying to defend the victim and therefore a scumbuddy has been caught.-
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Location: USA
#Edit By WAY OF DOUBLE POST, Edited to fix the Quotes
DeityKabuto's Content V.1.0
I will simply do a complete ISO on every player in this game, and compare it to interactions with other players they have had with their actions, votes, etc. With that data combined, I will form an analysis of my reads via the player themself.Setup:
[/color]{Town-aligned, Leaning-town, Null-town, Null-read, Null-scum, Leaning-scum, Scum-aligned}
Rankings:
I will also rate you on a scale of 1-10 on your performance via the game, how much content you're giving and how much you are actually helping the town.Ratings:
This is my second Jungle Republic game, I've played another one before >> Here << back then in April, I was a major Newbie so I was really sucky. The setup was the same and everything. I didn't pile up that many votes early on, but people did suspect me. I was a Vanilla Town, and I made it to the end. What you have to keep in mind is that the Mafia will also lie and say their are Town and try and get you to mislynch, etc. SO if you actually are a Vanilla Town, it's best if you form your own reads, opinions, etc early on because you don't know who's mafia lying, etc! Well that's all, moving on to ISO(s)...Jungle Republic Background Knowledge:
ISO Sector
kondi2424
Rating:0.1/10
Alignment-Read:Null-read
Notes:
1. I might have played with you.
2. You have been pretty inactive so far. (@MOD: I request a prod on kondi2424)
3. Your vote on me is still from RVS, not much else to say about you.
ISO:
Post #22... At least give reasoning to a policy lynch for DK.
TheFool
Rating:3/10
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar, you do not post much.
ISO:
Post #60... Here you say and I quote "Hey everyone, interesting game so far!" yet your activity doesn't show it. Scum flying under the radar, maybe? To live and go by unnoticed.
TheFool wrote:The Ray wagon has virtue beyond Thor's evidence.
VOTE: Ray Montano
Later on you leave that wagon and hop on mine, opportunistic scum, caught here, especially with you flying under the radar and all.
TheFool wrote:This is stupid. DK, pick a stance and stick with it. They're either cheating or they aren't. Your vote doesn't need to be on a different player every page. Stop arbitrarily refusing to answer questions if your just going to answer different ones 5 minutes later.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: DeityKabuto
Here you say to pick a stance and stick with it, weren't you so sure about your vote on Ray Montano?
Post #164... Help? What've you done this game so far that helps the town, please tell me?...
Sky
Rating:5/10 (some of your posts against me are a bit understandable but serious your activity and lack of content sucks, so far you aren't an asset to the town and your vote on me is pretty much opportunistic, quick lynch town sort of thing. There are many scum in this game for the town to rid of and if you lynch me the town will be at odds even quicker)
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You do not post that much, flying under the radar.
3. Your center of attention revolves around DK, bad if you are serious about winning as Town.
ISO:
Post #30... Here you claim to have prior experience with Shadow, and CMPunk (referring to you calling CM a punk ass, assuming you might know him)
Post #94... You started the whole question trauma thing with me and you are currently on my wagon.Oh and Tell me, how is someone like you with 10 posts, no case so certain that I am scum? You are flying under the radar more, it's only common for me to point it out and you haven't posted any content or contributed. You said my Quicky Reads were useless, but what Reads have you done? 0. Exactly, kthx. At least, I try unlike you and your punk ass.
Post #100... Your questions are weak, it's hard to explain but answering them won't really get us anywhere except for tunneling back and forth, it's tiring, that's why I avoided.
Sky wrote:Unvote: CMPunk
Vote: DeityKabuto
Both of your Votes are useless, without a case.
Sky wrote:Well my over all reason for voting you Deity is because you are a contradiction.
1) You joined the Ray wagon to opportunistic, now that you face death you say that you were too much of a quicklynch. I actually agree, I don't want to see you lynched just yet, but still, you're contradicting yourself.
2) I'm apparently Shadow. But we're not cheating.
3) You are uncomfortable being asked 3 questions, you completely shut down and tell me you won't talk to me until I answer 20 bogus ones. And then you say you like answering questions.
4) For the questions you do answer, you're vague and blame people for being confusing. Just answer the question.
5) You're raging way too hard this early in the game. I advise you do what your avatar is doing and calm down. I think you've achieved that at least.
I'll reinstate this in plain English:
Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you?
Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others?
1. Your vote on me isn't opportunistic?
2. That is blind reasoning, it has less to do with who's scum.
3. More blind reasoning.
4. More blind reasoning.
5.I RAGE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE QUICK LYNCHING SO THE TOWN WILL LOSE, FUCKING IDIOTS EVERYONE IN THIS GAME IS FUCKING IGNORANT.
BBmolla
Rating:7/10
Alignment-Read:Leaning-town
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of, I'm actually taking a liking to your style.
3. You tend to focus on DK more than any other player which is a bit of a trend in your Pro-town pattern.
ISO:
Post #26... Slight Pro-town feeling here..
Post #31... More Pro-town, my Self-voting caught the actual Pro town players in this game.
Post #125... Less of blind questioning...
Post #128... Yes, of course.
Post #134... Poor logic, I suggest you Unvote now.
Post #210... If I was scum, what would be your reasoning? Do you have strong evidence or logic, etc?
CMPunk
Rating:2/10
Alignment-Read:Null-scum (Just like a few others, you don't contribution much and you take the opportunistic ride onto my wagon)
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar with little contribution.
ISO:
Post #28... This.
Post #86... Weak Reasoning. Worthy of a vote? Sure. Worthy of a lynch? Not likely.
FightingShadow
Rating:4/10
Alignment-Read:Null-town (You seem a bit pro-town but post more, please)
Notes:
1. I might have played a game with you, but do not recall.
2. You are flying under the radar like a few others, post more, please. This is an 8 post ISO on you lmaox.
ISO:
Post #27... Here you announce that you are playing under an alternate account so you won't reveal your Meta.
Fighting Shadow wrote:
Also, everyone should read the setup - the Mafia cannot kill. While they are a threat, the Werewolves are the only ones killing us at night.
Quoted so everyone will stay aware.
whispersilk
Rating:5/10
Alignment-Read:Null-town
Notes:
1. I am currently in an Ongoing game with you, you are a skilled Newbie.
2. I want you to post more, seriously. If you are going to be inactive like this you could be Mafia or Werewolf flying under the radar to survive, you have potential~
ISO:
Post #9... Self voting is not bad DK. I helped win Open 307 by Self voting and I survived as Town too.
whispersilk wrote:Guys, DK is rage posting like he did at me when I called him out for avoiding my question for three pages in our other game. He made similar pleas to avoid a mislynch. Turns out he was town. Not saying he isn't scum or wolf, just saying his play here is almost a mirror of his rage and dodgy behaviour in my other game. He posts like an idiot, and is hard to understand, but I think he should be given a chance to explain himself and clear things up.
So no hammer yet, plzy.
Gonna try and catch up with the other 4 pages I've missed.
I usually rage when I actually am Town and people are lynching me for bad behaviors so EZ without a probable case or anything of that sort.More than 75% of those on my wagon only provided 1-2 lines of explanation, may not even be full sentences.
whispersilk wrote:I knew I should have subbed out of this game.
/sigh
Cheer up
DonJosh
Rating:1/10 (inactive, flying under radar)
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I think I've been in a game with you.
2. Another inactive, geez.
ISO:
Post #145...I AM VANILLA TOWN DON JOSH, NOW START POSTING STUFF THAT IS CONSISTENT AND WORTH THE MENTION, ONLY WEREWOLF WANT TO KNOW CLAIMS SO THEY'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO TO KILL.
tyhess
Rating:5/10
Alignment-Read:Null
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
ISO:
Post #12... trololol...
Post #53... Unexplained vote.
Ray Montano
Rating:8/10
Alignment-Read:Leaning-town
Notes:
1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You sir are Pro-town.
ISO:
Post #67... Pro-town here... nice
Post #126... lol
Ray Montano wrote:I'm not advocating a DK lynch right now, but I've got to say if someone had hammered I wouldn't have been too upset to see DK leave. I'm not a fan of players who throw pity parties for themselves when they're on the chopping block. I would, however, have been upset the day ended so early. So next time anyone's on the chopping block (myself included) it'd be awesome to have real discussions instead of "DON'T FUCKING HAMMER ME IF YOU WANT A MISLYNCH". Like...really...
Hehe, I would like you to post your reads after this, about Thor being scum and my potential scum listings.
"I don't care. Ask questions, argue it out, anything but whining about being lynched."
I understand.
Ray Montano wrote:Who says I've ever been good at scumhunting? Why are you playing this game based off so much supposed meta?
Noone, because you haven't.
Thor665
Rating:6.5/10
Alignment-Read:Null-scum
Notes:
1. I have played games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of.
ISO:
Post #52... Obv... scum. No time for a Quick lynch, reasoning is poor.
Thor665 wrote:The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.
You can't be serious.
Thor665 wrote: - no quick lynch? ::sadface::
Okay, let's lay out some reactions to that wagon.
Tyhess is probably town.
The Fool never answered the 'deeper' reasons to vote Ray, did he? He should really answer that - like - na0w!
Fighting Shadows is probably town.
DK is...DK. I could get behind a policy lynch there but I think we could probably do better - Werewolves should totally kill him though, he gets crazy effective at scumhunting starting Day 3.
Could someone explain to me why it was scummy that DK called two players as having a similar playstyle? That (and question derpiness) seems to be the case on him. I'm down with the derpiness but the other thing...whuh? Explain pl0x, I'm ready to sheep onto that in a second once I know why it's scummy.
Ray should still be lynched, unless someone can quote me a post where he is actually scumhunting. He's an experienced player and he doesn't seem to know how to scumhunt - that doesn't worry anyone else? It worries the everlovin' frell out of me.
Taking note of this, if Werewolves do kill me than your scum. Either way, I think you are a bit scummy, that serious vote on Ray had no case whatsoever and you mentioned plans for a quick lynch. And right now if you hammer me, than your scum. Except unlike other players, you are actually using your brains, pro-town, I wouldn't be for your lynch today.
ISO(S) Complete...
Major Wagon Analysis
Red = scum
Black = null
Blue = town
July 29th:
DeityKabuto (3/7) -DonJosh, kondi2424,CMPunk
Ray Montano (4/7) -Thor665,tyhess, TheFool, FightingShadow
July 31st:
DeityKabuto (6/7) -DonJosh, kondi2424,CMPunk, Sky, BBmolla, TheFool
CMPunk (1/7) - FightingShadow <- Pro town vote, at least he gave legit reasons
Ray Montano (1/7) - Thor665 <- Meh, if Thor is scum Ray is town. If Ray is scum, Thor is town. There.
Potential Scum Teams:
Possible 1:
Werewolfs: (DonJosh, tyhess)
Mafia: (Thor665, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??
For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CMPunk for pushing on my lynch with weak reasoning, only benefits Mafia so they will see the flip and have an idea of what to do next.
Possible 2:
Werewolfs: (DonJosh, kondi2424)
Mafia: (Ray Montano, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??
Explanation: For Werewolf. DonJosh, asking to claim to limit suspects for a Nkill and kondi wanting a DK Policy lynch to have two Scum kills over D1 to D2.
For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CM, save reasons above.
...Analyzing
Most Probable lynches for today:Thor665, Ray Montano, DonJosh, DeityKabuto (hopefully not, this was just be an innocent town lynch, you have my word, I will not say anything else and just focus on catching scum for the remainder of the day), CMPunk
I can't decide who to vote Ray Montano or Thor soVote CMPunk
RayMontano hasn't voted Thor for attacking him, which makes me want to vote him and he is in a bad position right now.
Thor's earlier reasoning for voting Ray weren't that strong, but he stuck with his reads and is pushing for his lynch, that is real scummy, a scum championing so hard for a town's lynch, makes me want to vote Thor. But I can't decide, so I will start CM's wagon, kind of a placeholder vote since I also suspect CMPunk to be either werewolf or Mafia.
Ray isn't in the best position, and hasn't done anything
DeityKabuto's Rants About Questioning wrote:
Okay, to clear up the questioning thing, here you go. The thing about questions and humans is a broad statement. A question is asked when someone is curious. Depending on the question asks will determine whether you get an answer or not. There are no such thing as "wrong" questions but you may not be asking the right ones therefore the person you ask may refuse to answer. The right questions lead to a deeper understanding and will help you find what you're looking for. When asking a question, always think of the best way to ask the person, so you will get the best response. That is all.
Vote If you disagree with my scum reads, do not simply say you DISAGREE or I will find you scummy and put you on blast. Provide solid reasons for disagreeing or else you are trying to defend the victim and therefore a scumbuddy has been caught.-
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
Sky wrote:Thor665 wrote:Sky wrote:For me, it's because it seems like he's trying too hard to contribute or something. Like he has these crazy accusations of me cheating but doesn't back it up. He compares us to eachother for reasons other than his own intuition which doesn't cut it for me.
So, your accusation is that he's scum who decided to make up a case based on nothing, and hope town would buy into it and leave him alone/sheep him to get you lynched?
We have established he's not a great player - good job.
Why does this make him scum? Bad players are town in the normal statistical amounts that good players are last I checked.
What I mean is, it seems like he's trying too hard to contribute. Like the whole quicky reads a few hours into the games with nothing to go off of besides pure random votes.
I have more to respond to, but I gotta go for now.
Respond to my ISO on you, goddammit.-
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
Thor665 wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:Thor what do you think of my theory on you and Ray not being Mafia together, but I am certain one of them is Mafia.
I would say the basic thesis - we are not scum together - makes a lot of sense as I'm certainly being fairly aggressive if this is just a bussing action.
The further conclusion - one of you is scum, the other is town - has no relevant basis. We could easily be town/town if my read is wrong, and I fail to see any evidence or logic that drew you to that, so I suspect it's your usual gut response via no evidence style case.
Why do you ask?
Also - vote Ray, 50% chance he's scum in your own words.
Spoken like a true IC.
Now, I ask that people start unvoting me, I contributed more than anyone this game.-
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1879
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DeityKabuto Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1879
- Joined: April 18, 2011
- Location: USA