Open 319: Jungle Republic - Day 5: Calamity *GAME OVER*

[Thor665]

@Sky - it's very real, here's our situation;

There are 2 town, 2 Mafia, and 2 Wolves.

6 Players.

If we lynch town - Wolves will kill someone and win.
If we lynch mafia - Wolves will kill someone and win.

Therefore town and mafia need to work together. We get a mafia to claim, and sheep him. It is in mafia's best interest to lynch a wolf as it is town's. We lynch a wolf and both town and mafia then have a chance, and the wolves will kill the mafia because if they don't then they will lose. Therefore - town wins, mafia gets its only chance at winning, and wolves have to kill a mafia for us - win for town, win for mafia, lose for wolves.

You got a better plan?

[Thor665]

Oh, and also, we be careful on putting someone at L-2, because this is lylo for both town and mafia right now - one non-wolf lynch equates to wolf win at this stage.

[DeityKabuto]

?

Yar, I'm Mafia, kiddo.

Town has no chance, alone btw.

[DonJosh]

We need your partner to claim, DK.

[sageamagoo]

I'm VT (err... well BB was) and I have no idea who to vote...

DonJosh claims he is the other town and I'm not sure if that's true or not...

But Thor is holding off on saying anything. I don't want to be rash, but he was THE scummiest player throughout the whole game and is still alive. Plus he sounds worried.
Can someone help me here? Could the other mafia claim to give us a better lynching chance? Thank you.

One question for the mod...

@mod would you tell us if the seer is still alive please?

[DonJosh]

I'm VT (err... well BB was) and I have no idea who to vote...

DonJosh claims he is the other town and I'm not sure if that's true or not...

But Thor is holding off on saying anything. I don't want to be rash, but he was THE scummiest player throughout the whole game and is still alive. Plus he sounds worried.
Can someone help me here? Could the other mafia claim to give us a better lynching chance? Thank you.

One question for the mod...

@mod would you tell us if the seer is still alive please?

Wolf.

[sageamagoo]

?

Wait, what?

You're not seer either?

...

vote: DonJosh

[sageamagoo]

[...]

Could the mod please confirm if we are in LyLo or MyLo?

Well... I don't know... I mean... That's probably the wrong question!
I know it is complicated, and whoever designed this setup not really thinking it through with winconditions and stuff doesn't make it any better obviously... I tried to improve it, but what's there in your role PMs is still not 100% accurate I fear... So... I guess I'll just discuss every possible case that can occur in this setup and how

I

will judge in each case:

I) Town majority victory:

- any time, at least one townie (including seer) alive, no mafia or wolf alive -

Town Win

II) Scum majority victory:

a) any time, no townie alive, more wolves alive than mafia -

Wolf Win

b) any time, no townie alive, more mafia alive than wolves -

Mafia Win

c) any time, n (1<=n<=2) wolves alive, at least 1 townie alive, number of town and mafia combined <=n -

Wolf Win

d) any time, n (1<=n<=3) mafia alive, at least 1 townie alive, number of town and wolves combined <=n -

Mafia Win

III) Draw situation victory:

- daystart, no townies alive, as many wolves alive as mafia -

Mafia Win

IV) kingmaker situation victory:

- daystart, exactly 1 townie alive, as many wolves alive as mafia -

Mafia Win

[/mech]

I noticed that the seer has to be alive. Sorry.

[sageamagoo]

Seer. Now. Please.

[DonJosh]

It's either Thor or havingfitz.

Also, your vote makes no sense. First of all, I quite clearly claimed VANILLA Townie, second of all, this post and this post don't make any sense together.

[sageamagoo]

Sorry about order of the posts but I saw what Shadow wrote before I saw your post, thus my second post. After seeing that my second post didn't make any sense next to the first, I wrote the third to show my logic.

I'm a VANILLA townie too, so since there are only two townies you must be lying.

You are most likely a wolf.

[Thor665]

?

Yar, I'm Mafia, kiddo.

Town has no chance, alone btw.

Please verify this is a claim.
Then tell me who you'd like to lynch.

Also, apparently fitz is seer - so probably fullclaim of those results would be nice, (though I wouldn't mind seeing DK call out a top lynch target first )and we can rule out DK as an investigation for tonight unless he's counterclaimed. Counterclaims should also come before fitz's results - any afterwards I'll be less likely to listen to.

[DeityKabuto]

Thor is my partner & I would lynch Sky for werewolf.

[DonJosh]

So sageamagoo and Sky are the wolves. Hm.

My Townbuddy should get in here now (AHEM havingfitz)

[DonJosh]

Thor is my partner & I would lynch Sky for werewolf.

I'm more comfortable with a sageamagoo lynch, since she's conf wolf from my POV. (She CC'd me)

[DeityKabuto]

Thor is my partner & I would lynch Sky for werewolf.

I'm more comfortable with a sageamagoo lynch, since she's conf wolf from my POV. (She CC'd me)

You speak as if you're cleared, which you're not.

You and sagea are riding the same boat, equally scummy.

[DonJosh]

Thor is my partner & I would lynch Sky for werewolf.

I'm more comfortable with a sageamagoo lynch, since she's conf wolf from my POV. (She CC'd me)

You speak as if you're cleared, which you're not.

You and sagea are riding the same boat, equally scummy.

I'm aware I'm not cleared, that's why I said "from my POV"
Anyhoo...
VOTE: sageamagoo

[DeityKabuto]

I'd rather lynch sky, and lynch b/w you and sag tomorrow for the win.

Vote Sky

[DonJosh]

I'd rather lynch sky, and lynch b/w you and sag tomorrow for the win.

Vote Sky

I guess that makes more sense.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sky

[Thor665]

@DK - the setup, it confuses you, doesn't it?

I was actually going to type up a post calling you a liar and try to wifom the wolves, but I don't see that helping us much at this stage. Okay, we'll play it this way - could you unvote though, I want to get the seer claim first.

@Seer/fitz - claim, targets and results please. We do need to hit this wolf accurately today or both of our factions lose. Also - since enough people have posted without countering DK's play and I just backed him you know for a fact we're the maf so we're not the smart lynch.

[Sky]

Whoah whoah whoah gents. I'm the seer.

whispers was my night 1, obviously not a wolf. And Thor was my night 2 and he isn't a wolf. Do you want mine for tonight as well? Or would that be bad at this point of the game? Sorry I'm extra cautious right now

Before I go further, fitz do you counterclaim me?

[DonJosh]

UNVOTE:

[Thor665]

At least taht makes me feel better about my reads - lol fitz, your case did suck!

Yes, we want the last read now, preferably before fitz gets in here.

DonJosh is probably town also, which means my reads were way more awesome then people (wolves) wanted to admit.

[Sky]

Well DK is not a wolf. So yes, it looks bad for me, all my results are people who have claimed and what not. But I want to see if fitz claims so I can just be sure of things... I'd say more but it'd reveal some stuff so I'll just wait till fitz gets here.

[Thor665]

I'm good with that - I'm totally on scumhunting and town's side...until tomorrow, brofist wolf brothers!