~laundry~ FIN

Pine · Post Post #62 (isolation #0) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:03 pm

Andrius wrote:
In post 56, SlySly wrote:
In post 12, Desperado wrote:I'm a miller.
VOTE: Desperado

Surely, that makes you smile Andrius.

Vote: Desperado

Oh shit you're right.
PINE, CREATURE, GET OVER HERE

Sounds legit

VOTE: Desperado

Also,

Public Service Announcement: I have the Hated modifier. It takes one less vote to lynch me, except in MYLO or LYLO

Pine · Post Post #70 (isolation #1) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:07 pm

In post 64, Andrius wrote:
In post 62, Pine wrote:
Also,
Public Service Announcement: I have the Hated modifier. It takes one less vote to lynch me, except in MYLO or LYLO
Dude, its the avatar isn't it?

Apparently.

Pine · Post Post #81 (isolation #2) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:11 pm

Also,

addendum to partial claim: I have an unusual role, one I am familiar with, but I don't recall ever seeing actually used before.

Hated is a modifier to it. So if you see me claiming Doctor or Jailkeeper or even something obscure like Motion Detector that I've played with before, lynch me. It's *possible* I saw it in a game many years ago, but definitely nothing recent.

Also, I absolutely

love

my role, and will likely use it in a future modded setup.

Pine · Post Post #88 (isolation #3) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:16 pm

In post 85, Andrius wrote:
In post 82, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 81, Pine wrote:Also, addendum to partial claim: I have an unusual role, one I am familiar with, but I don't recall ever seeing actually used before. Hated is a modifier to it. So if you see me claiming Doctor or Jailkeeper or even something obscure like Motion Detector that I've played with before, lynch me.
Lynch this with fire.
Nah. Par for the course as far as Pine's concerned.
Pine's town Sly's town man this game's shaping up to be great.

Now all we need is Toogeloo Boogeloo to get in here and we get to have a real party.

Actually, this kind of derp partial claiming is pretty weird for me. I just happen to have had weird roles in all three games we've played together (afaik).

Pine · Post Post #109 (isolation #4) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:47 pm

Firebringer wrote:
In post 105, Andrius wrote:Maria can I just defer to you for a read on FB?
I think my heart is too close to actually read him with a critical eye.
You can be my towel friend and we can do towel things together!

He can't be your towel friend. He's my towel friend.

Pine · Post Post #140 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:41 pm

In post 138, Andrius wrote:
In post 134, Errantparabola wrote:Desperado (3): SlySly, Andrius, Pine
This wagon is so beautiful.
Its like we walked right out of Strahd's castle right onto another battle.

SOUND THE CHARGE

Pine · Post Post #142 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:44 pm

Notice Dunnstral in the corner?

Pine · Post Post #147 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:49 pm

Yeah, I totally plan for this to be a FUN game, not a TRYHARD game. That will probably fall apart when shit gets real, but right now it's towel time.

Pine · Post Post #154 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:59 pm

Fire, you jestering bro?

Pine · Post Post #192 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:26 pm

In post 172, Firebringer wrote:that vote makes me so dry

I'ma make it so dry for you.

In post 190, Desperado wrote:Miller 1-shot Commuter

Since you've fullclaimed, flavor?

Pine · Post Post #232 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:33 pm

In post 231, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm town. I'd like to drink tea.

Forgot Town are towels. ObvSock.

Pine · Post Post #262 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:17 am

Hold up. Before the flavor train leaves the station, my flavor is also an obstacle to getting the laundry done, and I'm Town. EP actually tells me to fuck myself in my role PM. So let's not rush to a conclusion here.

I am considering the utility of a mass flavorclaim here. I would like to invite discussion on the topic. I see pros and cons.

Pine · Post Post #265 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:19 am

I'm thinking a SAD vote is justified, but let's have this discussion first.

Pine · Post Post #276 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:37 am

In post 271, drealmerz7 wrote:and this entire site needs to get the fuck off of miller's claiming out of the gate

it's fucking dumb and boring

I agree. I joined in on Desperado for the lulz and pressure, which he's responded well to, but you can't have site meta which both demands Millers claim and blanket hates Miller claims. It encourages evil mods to create real Millers just to fuck with us. This site is already pretty imbalanced between its Towngame and Scumgame, Town doesn't need the extra ding.

In post 273, Fro99er wrote:
In post 265, Pine wrote:I'm thinking a SAD vote is justified, but let's have this discussion first.
I'm fine with a mass flavor claim.

I just cannot talk about one part of mine, period. You're going to have to believe me on this or bad things will happen to this towel.

I also should not talk about part of mine. Bad things.

Pine · Post Post #291 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:54 am

Sorry Andy, Desperado isn't interesting anymore.

VOTE: SAD

New Strahd wagon.

PEdit: He might be, but right now he's the Baker Paladin, and I cleave to my man

Pine · Post Post #297 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:00 am

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 291, Pine wrote:PEdit: He might be, but right now he's the Baker Paladin, and I cleave to my man
"He might be, but right now I have this raging boner that makes me afraid to interact with anyone I know so I will vote a wagon that will not hurt my feelings."

Yeah, I don't have a problem lynching my friends. There are no friends at the end of the mafia day. Right now, however, this ad hoc bloc is producing results. Result #1-Desperado reacts Townishly. Result #2-SAD switches from happy-go-lucky I-love-votes to TRYHARD as soon as serious interest is shown in his wagon

Pine · Post Post #298 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:00 am

In post 295, Andrius wrote:
In post 291, Pine wrote:Sorry Andy, Desperado isn't interesting anymore.

VOTE: SAD

New Strahd wagon.

PEdit: He might be, but right now he's the Baker Paladin, and I cleave to my man
"HE MIGHT BE"
PINE WHAT IS THIS CRAP

...I said "might"

Pine · Post Post #390 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:23 am

In post 316, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Yeah and what if it's multiball or third-party or anything it's stupid to do association tells before flips.

Given flavor, I seriously doubt multiball. A Serial Killer is entirely possible, though.

In post 341, Fro99er wrote:I think people are reading far too much into this modifier talk.

Concur.

SAD scumread is stronger now.

Pine · Post Post #399 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:36 am

In post 395, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 390, Pine wrote: A Serial Killer is entirely possible, though.
is this you JUST stating the obvious? or is there something more here you're up for sharing?

Merely speculating. I have no additional insight. Flavor doesn't really make sense for a sock war, but a third party is plausible (SCARF)

Pine · Post Post #457 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:19 am

In post 400, drealmerz7 wrote:and you decided to share that speculation outloud for no particular reason

when it's a 17p theme game and an experienced playerlist where we all know SKs potentially exist in the game

hmmm

The comment was really meant to speculate that I don't think multiball groupscum is likely. Acknowledging a lack of a rule-out for SK was an afterthought.

In post 405, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: drealmerz7

rule 3: anyone who asks the mod if scum has daychat is scum

and they have daychat

It's NAI.

Pine · Post Post #884 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:12 pm

I'm a bit behind too. I have some time set aside this afternoon for catching up to games. It's been a hell of a week. Wife has been sick, issues with job, doesn't matter. I'll be current soon

Pine · Post Post #930 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:49 am

Site-wide post: Apologies for absences, I have been having some internet connectivity issues to cap off a week of rough personal issues, including illness in the family and problems at work. These should (I hope) be clearing up in the next day or so. I'll be catching up site-wide as soon as humanly possible.

Pine · Post Post #1355 (isolation #22) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:53 pm

Okay, you sons of bitches.

I'm back in this thread. Everything else in my life is all caught up, though the wife still has bronchitis (up from the flu, trending towards pneumonia fml).

I'll be rereading from the start, so PROTECT YOUR HOLES and LAUNDER those SOCKS.

Pine · Post Post #1997 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:33 pm

I'm here, I'm here. This game has my top priority in the morning.

Pine · Post Post #2005 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:38 pm

In post 1999, Andrius wrote:
In post 1997, Pine wrote:I'm here, I'm here. This game has my top priority in the morning.
PINE
JUST WHEN THIS EVENING COULDNT GET BETTER
<333

I'm like forty pages behind, so don't expect content until some time tomorrow. I've been procrastinating.

I have a day off with nothing to do tomorrow, and as of now I have few other site obligations until my Mini gets started up.

Pine · Post Post #2018 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:57 pm

In post 2006, Andrius wrote:PINE
YOU HAVE A MINI?

I do. It's full, waiting the go-ahead to start. It's vaguely horror-themed, with some inspiration in the flavor from the Saw movies. Want onto the replacement list?

In post 2010, SlySly wrote:
In post 2009, Andrius wrote:Sly
Do I pour myself another glass?
If you do, I'm opening the Reisling

I LOVE RIESLINGS. Especially German and Finger Lakes semi-drys.

Spoiler: mod-spoilered, quite a few pages late but there it is.

My favorite. I'm not drinking right now, as it's 4 AM and I'm getting ready to go to bed, but I just posted a picture of my wife (then girlfriend) on a wine tour in FWAN.

Pine · Post Post #2019 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:58 pm

Jeebas that's a big picture.

Mod, spoiler that?

Pine · Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:19 pm

I haven't played a good D&D game in forever.

Andy, Aeronaut and I were talking a couple of weeks ago about Mafiascum D&D. Interested?

Pine · Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:25 pm

I'll read first. This discussion is kind of keeping me from falling asleep in my easy chair.

Pine · Post Post #2197 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:40 am

In post 2054, Tammy wrote:As much as it depresses me nacho is probably scum for just whistling by all that too.

I concur.

Tammy is also looking Townish to me, though I want her to be wrong about Andrius. I really, really want her to be wrong. My finely-honed (read: rusty as fuck) sock-detection senses tell me to be wary of the hyper-buddying he's doing though.

Toying with not bothering to read the four dozen pages I snoozed through.

In post 2131, Desperado wrote:
Vote: SlySly

i no longer care whether this is a thing that can happen or not

It's not a thing that can happen.

In post 2135, McMenno wrote:
In post 2103, Desperado wrote:in a page that is already 70 pages of mostly nothing.
literally every large theme game ever

Only in the last year or two. We used to have fun and still be readable. Want to read an insanely fun game that was somewhat concise? Call of Cutthulufish. I mean, mods had GAME back then. There are great mods now (<3 Firebringer), but the creativity of that game just cannot be overstated.

In post 2132, drealmerz7 wrote:we can lynch slysly

VOTE: slysly

In post 2136, Tammy wrote:VOTE: slysly

He didn't even read it.

I do not sign up for games with people that I hate.

In post 2143, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2093, SlySly wrote:Why do I want Tammy lynched? Andrius is my top TR. Her attack on him makes her my top SR.
VOTE: Sly

In post 2146, Creature wrote:VOTE: SlySly

In post 2165, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Slysly

I want to be part of the cool kids.

STAHP. I said no.

In post 2169, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:HOLY

MOLY

Every Creature post is exactly like what mcmenno is describing and it's exactly what I've read about his scum game this is precisely like in defcon where Reck said UT was scum but people didn't trust him.

Right?

Lurking, trolling, and bare-voting Creature needs rope. SlySly wagon is full of fail and opportunism.

STRAHDIANS, UNITE.

VOTE: Creature

Pine · Post Post #2202 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:43 am

In post 2199, Creature wrote:Hey, you're also technically lurking.

Ah, but you're active lurking, I've just been mostly absent. There's actually a substantial difference.

And don't think I don't see the inherent OMGUS in the quoted statement.

Pine · Post Post #2204 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:44 am

^Nice

Pine · Post Post #2208 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:49 am

In post 2206, Creature wrote:Oh nice, guess scum found a way to mislynch D1 and still get away, but I'm not letting that.

So you're thinking that painting all of your detractors with a broad brush is the way to get out of this?

Pine · Post Post #2216 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:53 am

In post 2212, Creature wrote:From my wagon, SAD and Firebringer are town, not sure on frog, Pine's opportunistic there. Am I missing some vote?

Calling a scummy move scummy, then being the second vote on a wagon ain't scummy brah.

Pine · Post Post #2221 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:59 am

Pine · Post Post #2223 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:59 am

There is, actually.

Pine · Post Post #2226 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:04 am

In post 2190, Desperado wrote:Hi! My name's Desperado and I'm never unvoting SlySly.

Pine · Post Post #2227 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:04 am

In post 2225, Creature wrote:Feeling a Hunger Games!Pine, except I'm not in his scumteam.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about Hunger Games!Creature.

Pine · Post Post #2232 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:08 am

How is conditional doublevoter a scum role? It makes no sense for scum. Scum can just make sure they're off mislynches and get an extra vote? Nah. Not a scum role. If you think it's a fake claim, go that route, but arguing it is a scum role will get no traction.

Pine · Post Post #2236 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:11 am

That's a pretty rare scum role, and he'd probably just claim doublevoter if that were the case. No need to complicate a straightforward role that is more often Town than scum.

Pine · Post Post #2237 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:12 am

In post 2235, Firebringer wrote:this setup sounds weird.

QFT.

I mean, my role is EP's sleep schedule, ffs.

Pine · Post Post #2293 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:13 am

In post 2276, Nachomamma8 wrote:Pine, that catchup was all you're going to post today?

No.

Pine · Post Post #2303 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:23 am

In post 2299, drealmerz7 wrote:I get better as the game goes on

Unless you derptunnel on Town. Again.

Vote for Creature. For great justice.

Pine · Post Post #2306 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:27 am

In post 2305, drealmerz7 wrote:creature dies too early too often

he is fine to leave alive and not nearly scummy enough even to make a push on

Drealmerz

U scum bro?

BRO?

Pine · Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:15 am

In post 2361, Toogeloo wrote:Read between the lines Andrius.

Also, people are humorously ignoring the fact that Sly is lying about being a Double Voter at all since as scum he could easily make sure that his role never becomes provable.

Pine's apparently completely caught up with nothing to say about the pages he missed.

I'm completely cool with Gerry, Sly, or Pine being lynched... can we get one of them to L-1 so I can hammer pl0x?

I've said a couple of times that I haven't read the middle few dozen pages. Not sure I intend to, at this point. Maybe if I'm bored, but I'm presently current with the game and don't really need to go back.

I agree with Creature regarding the meta issue of beetlejuicing...it has always been a lame tell, and is usually NAI.

Pine · Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:18 am

In post 2386, Nachomamma8 wrote:i don't know how many votes creature has on him.
i wanted to see if i could bait gerry into attempting a lolhammer

Uggggh I want to say this makes Nacho Town, but he's clever enough to do this as scum.

drealmerz7 wrote:gerry, slysly, SAD, andrius for scumteam

Aww, drealmerz u sock bro aren't u

Pine · Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:19 am

STRAHDIANS. BACK IN THE FIGHT.

Pine · Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:21 am

Andrius and Sly. Back on Creature.

Pine · Post Post #2530 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:00 pm

In post 2473, SlySly wrote:Kids are going to bed then my glass is being washed and GoW saturday will commence. Who's playing tonight?!

I don't want to open a bottle of wine, but I have Jim Beam and ginger ale, or cider and Fireball.

In post 2476, Firebringer wrote:drunk yesterday, high tonight.

life is great

Awwww, I haven't been high in years! The wife doesn't believe in it. I've seriously considered making her some brownies without telling her, to show her what it's like.

SlySly is still powerTown. Drealmerz, stop being a sock. Desperado, stop being a dumb towel.

Pine · Post Post #2543 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:30 pm

In post 2533, Desperado wrote:
In post 2530, Pine wrote:SlySly is still powerTown. Drealmerz, stop being a sock. Desperado, stop being a dumb towel.
Didn't you see the post tho?

Yes. Sarcasm =! scumtell.

You tunnel so hard bro.

Have one of these:

Pine · Post Post #2546 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:34 pm

Alternatively, he just didn't consider it. It didn't occur to me either.

You're so far into tunnel that you're not seeing the stop signs.

Pine · Post Post #2550 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:39 pm

Not really relevant.

I hate defending other people in this game, but your case is kind of bullshit.

PEdit: Desperado is a towel. He's allowed to derptunnel. You're a sock this game, you are not afforded the same courtesy. Don't make me excommunicate you from the Strahdian Accords.

Pine · Post Post #2554 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:40 pm

In post 2550, Pine wrote:Not really relevant.

I hate defending other people in this game, but your case is kind of bullshit.

PEdit: Desperado is a towel. He's allowed to derptunnel. You're a sock this game, you are not afforded the same courtesy. Don't make me excommunicate you from the Strahdian Accords.

At this:

In post 2547, Desperado wrote:You didn't get that role PM days ago and crumb shit about it

Desperado wrote:
In post 2549, SlySly wrote:No, that's because I'm not an asshole loophole gamebreaker. There's a code of honor in life. What you just suggested is outside of it.
lmao no it isn't

It kind of is, given that it is super cheap and violates the spirit of the role.

Pine · Post Post #2563 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:45 pm

This is all pretty irrelevant. "He didn't see the cheap-ass loophole I saw" is an incredibly bad attack.

Pine · Post Post #2566 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:47 pm

I need more booze if I'm going to deal with this crap.

Pine · Post Post #2572 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:51 pm

In post 2569, Desperado wrote:i might be the asshole here

You are, but you're a towel, so if you come correct we won't hold it against you.

You may deserve a couple of these though:

Pine · Post Post #2575 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:57 pm

Okay, look. You people are way overcomplicating this. The interpretation is maddeningly simple.

LYNCH ACHIEVED - Was it on Town? If yes, was Sly on it? If yes, points reset. If no, point gained. Was it on scum? If yes, point gained. If no, points reset.

Two points gets him a doublevote.

Pine · Post Post #2578 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:58 pm

Stop being dumb socks.

Gist is spelled with a 'G'.

Pine · Post Post #2580 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:59 pm

If it were a scumrole, it would basically be "You get to doublevote starting D3."

Pine · Post Post #2582 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:01 pm

Scum is pretty well-defined colloquially. Scum = not Town.

Pine · Post Post #2586 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:03 pm

Sly, give Desp a break. He's a towel.

I need a refill.

Pine · Post Post #2593 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:10 pm

In post 2592, Andrius wrote:I've been reading up on CURSE OF STRAHD.
Spent the last hour or so reading a session report on BGG.
Drinking wine.
Having a good night.

The D&D setting, or the mafia game?

Pine · Post Post #2595 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:13 pm

Andy.

DM it for us.

Pine · Post Post #2601 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:54 pm

Evil Pine lurking in the corner is creepy.

Pine · Post Post #2602 (isolation #64) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:55 pm

Where the hell are my Winos. I was promised shenanigans if I drank tonight.

Pine · Post Post #2611 (isolation #65) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:27 pm

In post 2606, Andrius wrote:PINE IM READING BOUT CURSE OF STRAHD
AND WATCHING PEOPLE PLAY D&D

IF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOMEONE NEEDS TO MOD

IT'S CALLED DMing. I CAN'T DO IT, I'M ABOUT TO START DMing MY OWN CAMPAIGN IN RL BRUH

In post 2609, Andrius wrote:My gut says no to the Creature wagon.
My mind says no to the gerryoat wagon.

BUT MY BODYYYYYY

Your body says yes to the Pine wagon?

#crudeinnuendo

Pine · Post Post #2615 (isolation #66) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:34 pm

In post 2614, Firebringer wrote:Guys let's do a lynch pretty please

Convince Andy of Creature.

Pine · Post Post #2617 (isolation #67) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:35 pm

Drealmerz. Be sockier.

Pine · Post Post #2625 (isolation #68) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:03 pm

Ugh, Andy, you're a west coaster?

I want a divorce.

Pine · Post Post #2633 (isolation #69) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:11 pm

This?

This is why the laundry doesn't get done.

*pours another glass of whiskey*

Andrius wrote:
In post 2629, Firebringer wrote:Where on the west coast if I may pry?
Spokanistan.

This...is actually acceptable. Washington and the Portland area are exempt from my East Coast snootiness.

Pine · Post Post #2635 (isolation #70) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:13 pm

Desp is Town.

Sly is Town.

Pine · Post Post #2637 (isolation #71) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:15 pm

I think my head is officially in the game. I'm not going to bother reading the middle chunk of D1.

PEdit: NO. FUCK VEGAS. WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS NEEDS DISINFECTANT.

Pine · Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:06 pm

Sleep time for the tree.

This jam session was less productive than the last, but that's okay.

Pine · Post Post #2656 (isolation #73) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:41 am

Tammy is probably a Towel. I say "probably" because I haven't played a game with her in either ever or a long enough time that I don't remember it, so I have no meta reference. Her experience level is sufficient for me to be wary of an initial TR. That said, she's probably a Towel.

I know the above is confusing and contradictory.

PEdit: Tammy likes Skyrim, this makes her lockTowel. Disregard hesitance above*.

*Not really, for socks without a sense of humor.

Pine · Post Post #2664 (isolation #74) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:34 am

Undecided.

Pine · Post Post #2698 (isolation #75) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:45 pm

In post 2695, Fro99er wrote:I don't think I mind an Andy vote but I think i want to do this more

VOTE: Nacho

I like this idea, but Creature is the lynch for today. Flashwagon ain't gonna work. I'll join you in a Nacho lynch tomorrow.

Pine · Post Post #2761 (isolation #76) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:05 pm

In post 2742, Andrius wrote:Wait.
Bake.
BAKE?
ITS LIKE YOU KNOW ALL THE WAYS TO MY HEART

I make homemade bread all the time.

In post 2746, Firebringer wrote:I am making brownies tonight.
Laced with a special ingredient.

Guess

In post 2750, MariaR wrote:I don't like those brownies

In post 2751, Firebringer wrote:ur entitled to a wrong opinion

QFT

Pine · Post Post #2766 (isolation #77) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:08 pm

In post 2764, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2738, gerryoat wrote:even if you're SK you can help
town
, so idk why
they
'd wanna lynch you.

That's just colloquial English.

Pine · Post Post #2771 (isolation #78) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:11 pm

In post 2767, Fro99er wrote:And I'm an editor for a website.

So i'm a bit sensitive to it

Oh hey, I get you. I get twitchy when people abuse my language. I want to wrap barbed wire around a baseball bat and use my very own Lucille to "correct" them.

I just don't interpret casual use of pronouns to be scummy.

Fro99er wrote:But you can see why I'd question that and how it's not a reach.

I see what you mean, but I disagree as to interpretation. It's a reach.

Pine · Post Post #2785 (isolation #79) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:27 pm

In post 2773, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2771, Pine wrote:I see what you mean, but I disagree as to interpretation. It's a reach.
It's really not a reach.

When someone refers to town as they (the way i read it) it catches my attention

"They" is often used in the conceptual third person.

As in, when talking to your estranged second cousin, "Hey Jeremy, when you call all your family assholes, they tend to resent it." The speaker is included in the "they."

This detour into grammar weeds has been diverting, but stupid.

Pine · Post Post #2789 (isolation #80) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:47 pm

In post 2788, Fro99er wrote:Anyway.

Nacho isn't happening today. Tomorrow though.

VOTE: Creature

I thought about it more and I don't want to wait until deadline. If creature has some claim that causes us to scramble, I want there to be time to sort shit out.

I could get behind a Nacho flashwagon if there's a good reason not to lynch Creature.

Pine · Post Post #2861 (isolation #81) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:32 pm

In post 2836, Fro99er wrote:I want to be the crotch vote

In post 2837, Toogeloo wrote:Is it weird that the dog avatar is where the pussy would be?

I would like it pointed out that McMenno is actually in the butthole position.

I, however, and the veiny, pulsating, rock-hard raging murdercock of the Creature wagon.

Pine · Post Post #2918 (isolation #82) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:23 am

Guys.

Creature wouldn't be this hard to lynch if he were Town. It would be a total no-brainer to justify lynching Town!Creature. We're not seeing any significant resistance, we're seeing interest elsewhere sans commitment. That says scum to me. I want to hunt off the Creature wagon when he flips scum.

Pine · Post Post #2927 (isolation #83) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:28 am

In post 2919, Creature wrote:I was brought to L-3/L-2/L-1 pretty quickly though.

It took days of concerted effort and several counterwagons, actually.

Pine · Post Post #2932 (isolation #84) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:30 am

In post 2927, Pine wrote:
In post 2919, Creature wrote:I was brought to L-3/L-2/L-1 pretty quickly though.
It took days of concerted effort and several counterwagons, actually.

Well, maybe 'several' is exaggerating, but there are a suspicious number of people not expressing TRs on Creature who are suddenly very interested in lynching anyone but Creature.

Pine · Post Post #2943 (isolation #85) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:19 am

I'm more than a little annoyed that no one has commented on my murdercock depiction.

Pine · Post Post #2984 (isolation #86) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:46 am

In post 2979, SlySly wrote:Creature, welcome back to Team Strahd. Pine, charge!

Yeah, this flashwagon gives me all kinds of screaming heebie-jeebies.

Pine · Post Post #3008 (isolation #87) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:02 am

In post 3004, Fro99er wrote:Desp is town tho

Truth

Pine · Post Post #3014 (isolation #88) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:09 am

Desperado is Towel for his tunneling on Sly, and his Towelish backing down from it. I don't need more, but he and I are generally seeing things in much the same manner (not counting Sly). Different reads, similar approaches. He's gamesolving. You're trolling. The fake stuttering thing and leaning on the whole 'cute anime girl' motif looks extra contrived.

The Zach counterwagon smells bad. I especially don't like how eager Creature jumped on it.

This is a better one:

VOTE: Maria

Current SRs in no particular order: Creature, MariaR, Nacho, Drealmerz. Maybe Toog, but Toog may just be moonlogicking.

Pine · Post Post #3021 (isolation #89) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:15 am

In post 3016, Andrius wrote:Pine.
Would it not make sense for a Town PR Creature to want to lynch anyone but him?
That's not necessarily scum - Town PR who thinks they're of great value
whose utility is not derived from their own lynch
would try to stay alive.

I literally would have voted anyone once compromised in OUTWITTED years ago.

Town PR wants to lynch one of their scumreads. Go ahead, CTRL+F Creature. I just did. He doesn't have a single bad word to say about Zach, and even says that he'd rather not Zach, Zach simply hasn't cleared his bullshit PoE.

So he jumps onto a Zach flashwagon with no justification? Nah. Dat scumplay.

Pine · Post Post #3063 (isolation #90) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:48 am

In post 3055, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Omggggg

What are these wagons they're all town counter wagons to scum-Creature.

Incorrect. Zach is the sock-driven Towel CW to sock-Creature, Maria is the Towel-driven sock counter-counter-wagon to Zach.

Pine · Post Post #3069 (isolation #91) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:52 am

In post 3066, Andrius wrote:Given that the Zack wagon consists of [Andrius, SlySly, Maria, Creature] who's the scum driving this wagon?
Just Maria?

Maria and Creature.

Pine · Post Post #3071 (isolation #92) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:54 am

Nah Maria is just making shit up now.

Pine · Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:05 am

In post 3096, Firebringer wrote:This game is longer than most of my modded games and we are on day one.
I dislike most of you right now m! (Not really but still)

Says the guy with the most posts in this thread.

Pine · Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:48 pm

I'll catch up tonight. Strahdians, direct my wrath

Pine · Post Post #3573 (isolation #95) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:05 pm

VOTE: Creature

Headed home to catch up now, but absent new information and with deadline looming, this is the only viable option I support.

Pine · Post Post #3634 (isolation #96) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:00 am

Sly is Town, bruhs. Do not support.

Pine · Post Post #3643 (isolation #97) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:06 am

Quick unofficial poll: who would support a Nacho flashwagon? If we can't lynch Creature, and Sly is Town, let's do this. There's been a lot of talk about Nacho but no action.

I'll be here pretty much all the way to deadline.

PEdit: I am not interested in Gerry. It's a bad wagon, and a CW to Creature.

Pine · Post Post #3650 (isolation #98) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:15 am

Fair point. Consider it tabled.

I reject the Sly wagon and do not see a good reason for the Gerry wagon.

Pine · Post Post #3671 (isolation #99) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:41 am

In post 3653, Fro99er wrote:Man this is like dems vs GOP, cant find a compromise in the middle with Creature.

I'm not ready for this to be funny

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:45 am

In post 3663, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Do you guys know how easy it is to prove watcher though.

In post 3664, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:And if he's scum watcher then control his 2 shots ???? make him give us correct results if he doesn't lynch him.

Provable or not, that doesn't make him scum. Just because he's giving us controlled results doesn't mean he gives us COMPLETE results. Besides, directing him where to Watch just means scum don't bother killing that person. Announcing a Watcher target publicly is the opposite of helping.

In post 3667, Creature wrote:Anyone still thinks I could be scum watcher?

Obviously, yes. Watcher is a very common scum role.

In post 3670, Creature wrote:Still think there could have a scum conditional doublevoter?

No, that would be a very unlikely and abusable scum role.

Fro99er, drop the beetlejuicing line. In any circumstance it's a shitty and NAI tell, here it's just reasonable for him to be paying attention.

My vote is still on Creature.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:45 am

SAD, you too.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:47 am

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 3676, Pine wrote:Provable or not, that doesn't make him scum. Just because he's giving us controlled results doesn't mean he gives us COMPLETE results. Besides, directing him where to Watch just means scum don't bother killing that person. Announcing a Watcher target publicly is the opposite of helping.
What.

If he's not giving complete results then someone can out and then ????? lynch him for not giving complete results.

So he tells us Town actions on the target, and conceals any scum actions, all while scum merely have to avoid his leashed watch. They could also use it to frame someone.

A bad or illogical attack on scum actually helps them, because it discredits the legitimate attacks on them.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:04 am

In post 3686, Creature wrote:I think you're picking more on NAI posts.

You aren't allowed to call your own posts NAI. That isn't for you to determine.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:22 am

This plan sucks balls

Pendulous, swinging, heavy, Sasquatch balls

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:59 am

Creature lynch or bust.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:59 am

In post 3746, Nachomamma8 wrote:I saw a SlySly wagon. That is dumb beyond dumb. Life would make a hell of a lot more sense if we just lynched Gerry; he's claimed a role that can't exist. And, if some weird backwards world exists where he's a delayed seeking mason (????), oh look, it's been counterclaimed.

Bus Creature please.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:02 am

In post 3751, Nachomamma8 wrote:Frog claim makes me slightly more amendable to lynching Creature, but watcher is a protective/investigative role.

Among a host of claimed protective/investigative roles.

With only a few hours to go, you do not have the luxury of vanity wagons or "slightly more amenable." Put up or shut up. Maybe if you bus Creature now, you'll be able to defeat my murdercock-inspired push on you tomorrow.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:03 am

Hey Nacho, even better, bus Creature now, kill me tonight, and no one left will actually have the stones or competence to push you.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:06 am

In post 3751, Nachomamma8 wrote:Frog claim makes me slightly more amendable to lynching Creature, but watcher is a protective/investigative role.

In post 3757, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3749, Pine wrote:
In post 3746, Nachomamma8 wrote:I saw a SlySly wagon. That is dumb beyond dumb. Life would make a hell of a lot more sense if we just lynched Gerry; he's claimed a role that can't exist. And, if some weird backwards world exists where he's a delayed seeking mason (????), oh look, it's been counterclaimed.
Bus Creature please.
Hey, just for fun - why should I be voting him right now?

In post 3761, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3759, Pine wrote:Hey Nacho, even better, bus Creature now, kill me tonight, and no one left will actually have the stones or competence to push you.
Hey, Pine, if you're going to launch into full jackass mode you can have fun with your mislynch without me

THESE POSTS ARE NOT ALIKE.

Town!Nacho doesn't let petty mocking deter him from lynching scum, and he doesn't pussy out from his reads. This is straight up scum!Nacho.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:09 am

In post 3764, Fro99er wrote:Yo, Pine. Calm down. I actually want to play with nacho. He's a nice dude and I've never played a full online game with him.

Oh, I concur. Nacho is one of my favorite players. He's just scum this game.

<3 Nacho 5eva

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:26 am

In post 3806, Andrius wrote:
In post 3803, Tammy wrote:
In post 3759, Pine wrote:Hey Nacho, even better, bus Creature now, kill me tonight, and no one left will actually have the stones or competence to push you.
Ahem.

If I'm alive that is.
YOU HAVE MY SWORD

I'd offer my axe, but I think I'm Gandalf in this situation.

In post 3829, gerryoat wrote:I'll order the rope, waiter.

Extra salt

In post 3830, gerryoat wrote:My claim only helps mafia. I'm doing a service to town. If you wanna be bad, go ahead and vote me

These are hardcore Townposts. I now strenuously object to a Gerry lynch.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:37 am

In post 3862, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Nacho you're more experienced than to be tunneling like this on a noob I'm disappointed.

This is my point.

In post 3867, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3865, Zachstralkita wrote:imo you have to assume his incompetence to a certain degree for the scum motivation to be there
and i don't have to assume incompetence for town play here?

It isn't that you're displaying incompetence. You aren't. It's that you're actively doing stuff that doesn't make much sense, ignoring important things, and are not gamesolving. This is not Town!Nacho.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:37 am

In post 3909, Fro99er wrote:fuck there's still 6 people on the sly wagon too

SlySly (6): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

HMMMM

MOSTLY PEOPLE TRYING TO WHISTLE THEIR WAY TO DEADLINE.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:39 am

You'll notice that, with three active wagons, the only one that is being seriously pushed is the one that is on scum, but SOMEHOW can't get enough votes to seal the deal?

Honestly. If Creature were Town, with 2.5 hours to deadline, scum would be CREAMING THEIR PANTS for the free excuse to "compromise on a deadline lynch OOPS IT WAS TOWN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME COMPROMISE"

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:43 am

In post 3924, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3922, Pine wrote:It's that you're actively doing stuff that doesn't make much sense, ignoring important things, and are not gamesolving.
pick one.
explain it.

Well, given that what I just said is mostly an opinion-based assessment of your general activity level, that isn't an especially fair demand. I can't point to a particular post and say THIS RIGHT HERE when I'm talking about larger patterns, now can I?

I can, however, turn that right back around on you, and demand that you prove me full of shit by citing examples of you making logical deductions, identifying pertinent facts/making observations, or attempting to gamesolve. The difference is that while it is almost impossible to prove the absence of something, it is SUPER EASY to prove it exists.

Ball's in your court.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:45 am

In post 3926, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3925, Pine wrote:You'll notice that, with three active wagons, the only one that is being seriously pushed is the one that is on scum, but SOMEHOW can't get enough votes to seal the deal?

Honestly. If Creature were Town, with 2.5 hours to deadline, scum would be CREAMING THEIR PANTS for the free excuse to "compromise on a deadline lynch OOPS IT WAS TOWN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME COMPROMISE"
you'll notice that the wagon being compromised on is... creature.
so umm no this doesn't make sense but keep pluggin away bud

How is Creature the compromise? The Creature wagon predates both the Sly wagon and the Gerry wagon, and has been the only consistent one. It's also the only one that has any real LIFE to it. The Sly wagon has been dead in the water at 5-6 for ages with nothing new or interesting, and the Gerry wagon is the "I dunno, maybe?" wagon.

Creature is the only viable wagon that has a solid foundation.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:48 am

In post 3933, Fro99er wrote:If Creature was town I agree he'd probably be lynched pretty quickly.

This right here is the important thing. If Creature were Town, scum would have an absolutely free shot at him right now. There wouldn't be a whisper of consequence. The fallout would be "Oh it was a deadline compromise, bad decisions were made."

Instead, he's scum and they're desperately clinging to vanity wagons and counterwagons hoping to wait out the clock.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:53 am

Creature

(6): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Fro99er

SlySly

(5): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(3):

Toogeloo

, SlySly, Desperado

Desperado

(1):

Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

Really, Toogeloo? Because I was just looking at this, and the people who are objectively helping the least right now are bolded. I am seriously questioning the Mason claim.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:56 am

Creature

(6): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Fro99er

SlySly

(5):

drealmerz7

, Ser Arthur Dayne,

Zachstralkita

,

Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat

(3):

Toogeloo

, SlySly, Desperado

Desperado

(1):

Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(1):

Tammy

This is actually the completed version of that. I posted an incomplete version in haste because Toogeloo being present and useless infuriates me way more than the people who are AFK and useless.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:01 pm

Criteria for the above: Bolded are the people who are being inflexible about their vote, who seem to be ignoring the deadline situation and just whistling their way to deadline. People given a pass were the people who have expressed hard reads excluding the other viable wagons, people who have been moving their vote around to adapt to the situation, even if their vote is stupid, and people who have been actively and repeatedly justifying their vote. SAD, for example, appears to be the true believer on the Sly wagon, while the others are mostly ghosts parking their vote. Same for Desp on Gerry. The entire Creature wagon, not counting scum!Nacho, has been consistent and ardent.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:04 pm

In post 3925, Pine wrote:Honestly. If Creature were Town, with 2.5 hours to deadline, scum would be CREAMING THEIR PANTS for the free excuse to "compromise on a deadline lynch OOPS IT WAS TOWN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME COMPROMISE"

Right this minute, Toogeloo, this is the only case that matters.

Read my ISO for more details.

PEdit: First of all, Watcher is a very common and useful scum role. Second, this is role madness. We cannot and will not pull back on someone because they claimed a limited and frankly fairly pedestrian role. Third, there are a metric shitload of investigative and pseudo-investigative roles claimed ALREADY, some of them have to be false. I think it's Creature, the one so far that has the most scum utility.

Toogeloo wrote:Pine, your bolded above are people who won't lynch Creature, that's the simple of it. The same thing could be said for your unbolded not wanting to lynch Sly or gerry.

This is a gross oversimplification.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:06 pm

I have to go to class. I'm not signing off pre-deadline, as I'll have my phone on me, but I probably will not be posting much.

If we no-lynch, I swear to god heads will roll.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:13 pm

In post 3954, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 3949, Pine wrote:First of all, Watcher is a very common and useful scum role. Second, this is role madness. We cannot and will not pull back on someone because they claimed a limited and frankly fairly pedestrian role. Third, there are a metric shitload of investigative and pseudo-investigative roles claimed ALREADY, some of them have to be false. I think it's Creature, the one so far that has the most scum utility.
This is not a case for scumCreature though. I want to know what makes him scum.

It wasn't meant to be. It's an argument against your pathetic reason for hesitating.

Desp, get on Creature. Gerry isn't happening today.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:18 pm

In post 3964, Toogeloo wrote:I'm not hesitating, I just don't see why Creature is even a wagon when we have obvious issues with Sly and gerry. Best I can tell, people are voting Creature because he beetlejuices.

That is NOT why we're voting for him. Further, we have repeatedly rejected that argument. Beetlejuicing is NAI.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:18 pm

In post 3963, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3958, Desperado wrote:All aboard the NL train!!!!!!!!!

Choo chooooooooo
This is literally the worst thing we can do, since we basically guarantee scum in {Creature, Sly}

You were voting creature earlier today, what changed?

Answer this please.

Pine · Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 3971, Fro99er wrote:UNVOTE:

I want desp to answer.

I will vote creature after he does

This is good play.

Fuck, I'm going to be late to class now. Bai.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:30 pm

In post 4046, gerryoat wrote:One maf bussed at the end for sure. It was nacho or desperate

Pretty sure it was Nacho. He was super two-faced about Creature.

VOTE: Nacho

In post 3987, Toogeloo wrote:I don't think it's right, but it's better than a No Lynch. This has been the worst town performance on a Day 1 ever.

Also, *point and laugh at Toog*

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:36 pm

In post 3692, Fro99er wrote:cop

Finding this took me about 15 seconds with ISOing him and CTRL+F'ing 'Cop'. It literally took me longer to write this post.

PEdit: Okay, not as lazy as I thought.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:39 pm

I TR Sly independent of his status as CW. Gerry as CW is much more vindicating.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:50 pm

I still get a scum vibe.

My SRs are Nacho, drealmerz, Maria right now. I get a sneaking suspicion of Andy, but I'm electing to ignore it for now.

In post 4046, gerryoat wrote:One maf bussed at the end for sure. It was nacho or desperate

But this is quite true, too. If Nacho flips Town, my suspicion of him will transfer to Desperado. There was some shady shit at day's end, where the scumteam was super reluctant to bus Creature.

That said -

VOTE: Maria

Because I pay attention, even if belatedly.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:01 pm

In post 4082, Andrius wrote:
In post 4076, Pine wrote:I get a sneaking suspicion of Andy, but I'm electing to ignore it for now.
If you never talk to me about it you'll never get over it.

I don't usually tolerate this kind of buddying, so I'm paranoid about it. I don't actually have any evidence against you.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:35 pm

In post 4099, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I'm really starting to doubt the mason claim

It looks like a super hardcore gambit. Esp b/c creature was constantly scumreading both of them.

Toogeloo alone is fucking lol would scumread in a heartbeat. Only thing stopping me from doubting is my Tammy townread from her convo with Andrius.

Yeah, I was doubting the Mason claim too. I kind of got the impression that Tammy and Toog moved on Creature at the last minute because they couldn't justify not doing so.

In post 4100, Andrius wrote:
In post 4088, Pine wrote:
In post 4082, Andrius wrote:
In post 4076, Pine wrote:I get a sneaking suspicion of Andy, but I'm electing to ignore it for now.
If you never talk to me about it you'll never get over it.
I don't usually tolerate this kind of buddying, so I'm paranoid about it. I don't actually have any evidence against you.
Its not buddying, its me asking how are you going to resolve this besides sitting around watching me unless we talk this out?
No evidence is fine. So I'm guessing its gut?

It's not gut, even, it's paranoia.

In post 4101, drealmerz7 wrote:and why are we not just voting nacho?

We were. Then we decided to vote Maria. For reasons.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:42 pm

FINE

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:43 pm

Well you can fuck right off too

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:58 pm

{Nacho, Maria, Drealmerz}

I'd happily lynch anyone in that group. Preferring Maria right now for reasons.

Pine · Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:02 pm

lololol

Maria still trying to push Gerry and I when he's the superobvTown counterwagon to a scum lynch that I fanatically drove.

Try harder.

Pine · Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:33 am

In post 4127, MariaR wrote:Not pushing Gerry he's basically saying he has a guilty no shit dumbass

Oh really?

In post 4112, MariaR wrote:Pine is still scum
maybe with gerry
if he's telling the truth but I don't think he is and just ants to reaction test me he wouldn't try to guilty me as mafia cause he knows he prob doesn't need to take me out and just pocket me but...

You wanna go into detail on this Gerry you punk?

This isn't pushing Gerry?

In post 4174, MariaR wrote:No one knew he was a cop.

Yes we did. He claimed it straight up, sans the 'Weak' modifier, and we actually discussed strategies about how to proceed. There was a whole conversation where it was proposed that we let Creature live so he could Watch Fro99er.

Pine · Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:35 am

Before this wagon picks up steam, I feel compelled to remind people that I have the Hated modifier

Pine · Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:45 am

In post 4213, MariaR wrote:Pine even if I want your head around rope would you like a hug?

Pass

Pine · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Nine pages of shitposting. Nacho and Maria continue to be scum.

In post 4418, Errantparabola wrote:
https://goo.gl/forms/NAerUQoMa2jNAZyw1

More people should take the quiz
Only 3 responses! Currently Nacho is in the lead.

EP, I took the quiz and clicked 'View your Accuracy' and didn't see anything marked wrong? Did I get a perfect score?

In post 4456, gerryoat wrote:Nacho lynch is the best play

I concur. I'd like Maria, but I promised myself Nacho today.

VOTE: Nacho

Pine · Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:33 pm

It kind of was. Nothing was decided, not many votes changed, no new arguments were introduced, and there was a lot of waffling around uselessly amid complaining about how crappy D1 was, despite the fact that we lynched scum.

Also known as shitposting.

Pine · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:16 am

In post 4483, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 4283, MariaR wrote:Why aren't you voting me are you scared I bet you're scared
so forced
VOTE: maria

Nacho is town.

Show your work.

Pine · Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:07 pm

Moar Nacho votes

That is all

Pine · Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:41 pm

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:That's my whole point you have no presence.

Yes in an alternative universe you're engaging and fishing for reactions and making pushes and voodoo magic.

That's a sign of drealmerz!scum, in my experience. If he's not tunneling and raging, I don't see drealmerz!Town

Pine · Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:39 pm

I again remind everyone, I have the Hated modifier. Let's not have an accidental lolhammer

You've been alerted three times now. I expect every Townie to prosecute any "oops I meant to put him at L-1 and he died!"

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:25 am

In post 4568, Zachstralkita wrote:Why do I have a vote on me

Also Pine..: is a TR for me

So vote Nacho you numpty.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:43 am

Nacho's read on me is defensive in nature.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:41 pm

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:43 pm

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also if Tammy and Gerry are town then:
In post 3126, Creature wrote:Okay, let's say I trust you.

drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Pine, gerryoat, Tammy.

Your opinions on them?
Prob one scum from those 3.

It's drealmerz. This isn't his Towngame.

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 4645, Desperado wrote:i could see them looking at a 13v4 with all sorts of power everywhere and just telling him to add another scum
No, that's not adding one scum.

That's converting one town to a scum. Huge difference from balance stand-point.

This

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:54 pm

In post 4650, Desperado wrote:
In post 4646, Pine wrote:Nah
don't you have some batshit role that's never even been done before?

the existence of the goon with all of the claims that have happened/been softed suggests to me that it was added later

unless you think the other 3 scum are complete gods

My role has been done before, I just haven't seen it used, or at least not in a long time. For the record, I quite like my role, and it's a doozy.

Reviewers lately are skewing towards Townsided.

I think that there are a healthy amount of scum PRs, and there is at least one negative utility Town role (Hated) to balance it. At least two, if Desperado's Miller claim is legit.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 4653, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Barely anyone bussed Creature till prob the very end.

Which is why it was hard to lynch him and distracting wagons like Gerry kept popping up.

That's the argument I was making at the end of D1. I think the scum that reluctantly bussed was Nacho. It also soft-clears Gerry imo.

Desperado wrote:
In post 3997, Errantparabola wrote:
Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature (9 - LYNCH):
McMenno
,
gerryoat
, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado
SlySly (4): drealmerz7,
Zachstralkita
, Nosferatu,
MariaR

gerryoat (2): Toogeloo, SlySly
Desperado (1): Firebringer
Zachstralkita
(1):
Creature

Not Voting
(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

If you're going to do this can you bold the colored names? Thin red is very difficult to distinguish from black on a pale background, or at least it is for me. I'm partially colorblind.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:59 pm

Wait, so red are scumreads? If so, bullshit on McMenno and Gerry. Gerry was a CW to Creature, and McMenno was like the first one on Creature, and stayed faithful the whole time.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:56 pm

In post 4670, Desperado wrote:if scum were bussing creature being a CW to creature is irrelevant and yes, mcmenno was the first one on creature and stayed faithful the whole time without any depth to his read or really doing anything else then or since

huh

Disagree. The reluctance and resistance to the completion of the Creature wagon was extensive, and only broke at the very end.

You seem to be suggesting that McMenno bussed from the start, out of the blue, and hung on stubbornly even when the Creature wagon seemed to fall apart multiple times, and when switching over to an alternate compromise wagon at deadline would have been practically free of suspicion.

I don't buy that assessment. Scum bus, but they don't do it for zero reason, they don't tend to do it quietly or stubbornly, and when it doesn't seem to be working, they look at other options.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:02 pm

Time for a full readslist.

Strongish TRs on SlySly, Gerry, and McMenno.

Medium-strength TRs on Desp, Zach, Fire. Maaaybe SAD.

Andrius is still a special category.

Tammy and Toog also a different special category.

SRs on Nacho and drealmerz. My SR on Maria is actually weakening a bit, though she's not out of the woods.

Who does that leave? Just Nosferatu, I think.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:07 pm

In post 4678, Desperado wrote:
In post 4675, Pine wrote:
In post 4670, Desperado wrote:if scum were bussing creature being a CW to creature is irrelevant and yes, mcmenno was the first one on creature and stayed faithful the whole time without any depth to his read or really doing anything else then or since

huh
Disagree. The reluctance and resistance to the completion of the Creature wagon was extensive, and only broke at the very end.

You seem to be suggesting that McMenno bussed from the start, out of the blue, and hung on stubbornly even when the Creature wagon seemed to fall apart multiple times, and when switching over to an alternate compromise wagon at deadline would have been practically free of suspicion.

I don't buy that assessment. Scum bus, but they don't do it for zero reason, they don't tend to do it quietly or stubbornly, and when it doesn't seem to be working, they look at other options.
lol

why are you pretending like you just started playing mafia yesterday

I'm not.

Here's the thing - bussing for no reason and out of the blue just doesn't happen as often as it's talked about. A teammate is a valuable resource. Distancing occurs, but it's a big waste to eliminate a teammate. If you completely sacrifice one out of the blue, it's got to be dramatic enough to earn you a ticket to endgame. Claiming a guilty on a teammate, for example. Counterclaiming them. You don't do it quietly and stubbornly.

The other way to bus is for Towncred when things turn against your buddy. There's motion towards their lynch, so you jump on and ride the wave. Again, it's better to do this vocally, or at least obviously.

McMenno was quiet, early, and stubborn. That wasn't a bus.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:07 pm

In post 4681, Desperado wrote:strong townreads on gerry and mcmenno is pretty batshit pine

I have reasons, I have spelled them out.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:39 pm

In post 4686, Toogeloo wrote:Pine, Scum don't wait to the very last minute to bus a Goon if the only thing that is needed is their votes to complete the lynch. No chance in hell scum were completely off Creature's lynch when it was a 3-way between Creature, gerry, and Sly. In fact, if anything, the early departers of gerry and Sly onto Creature are your best bets for scum, as are the people who parked there and didn't stay there. If anything, the last votes on Creature in the waning hours of the day phase are all town.

I'm also completely open to the idea that the scum team might be completely incapable of leading town around by the nose, and were likely amicable to the plans set by the louder voices.

Also, if Pine is hated, I doubt scum have a 5-man team. Hell, Pine shouldn't be allowed to live simply because he brings LyLo a day earlier, and a 5-man team also closes that LyLo gap.

My Hated status specifically does not function in LyLo/MyLo

I also do not expect to make it to endgame. My PR is too juicy.

In post 4692, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Wait a min...

If Pine said he's not hated in lylo... isn't that unfair from a mod stand-point because it allows the town to know when it is lylo?

Not really. Town almost always knows when it's LyLo, for one, and it's not like there's a mod announcement. Either the lynch happens or it doesn't.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:09 pm

In post 4707, drealmerz7 wrote:I think desp is scum from all this actually

thanks pine

VOTE: desperado

He's not scum. He's just being stubborn and myopic. This debate was not a case against Desp.

Not sure why I'm defending him to you. You're scum, you know who Town is.

@Desp: All your mega-wall suggests is that Creature hasn't mastered the art and science of making his scumgame look like his Towngame. He has a noticeable difference between the two, and some people who have played with scum!Creature notice.

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:44 pm

Sigh. SAD is moonlogicking.

SAD, are you a Titus alt?

Pine · Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:55 pm

Where's a Blue Eyes White Dragon when you need one?*

(This represents more or less the full extent of the Yu-Gi-Oh knowledge I picked up from seeing the TV show a few times as a kid)

Pine · Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:05 am

In post 4749, gerryoat wrote:toog, scum has to be laughing at how bad you're being.

Yeah, this

Pine · Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:19 am

In post 4770, Tammy wrote:
In post 4768, Pine wrote:
In post 4749, gerryoat wrote:toog, scum has to be laughing at how bad you're being.
Yeah, this

Side sniping after bragging about your competence is not a good look.

Are you going to get to actual scum hunting or is trying to fan flames about arguments and rudimentary Mafia busing theory all we're getting?

"Get to scumhunting"? I've pointed out three strong scumreads and recently posted a full readslist. Fuck off and/or pull your head out of your ass.

Pine · Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:25 am

^This

This is also why I got into the weeds with a philosophical debate about bussing theory. I think there's a lot of people who have a theoretical and practical disconnect regarding the practice.

Pine · Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:54 am

And Nacho, Andy.

Pine · Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:49 pm

In post 4802, drealmerz7 wrote:He's my scumbro and I don't want to bus today

I translated that from scum to English for you.

Pine · Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:16 pm

Yeah, that's just my game. "I have a good scumgame" and "My towngame and scumgame are indistinguishable" are virtually synonymous.

Try again.

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:32 am

In post 4821, MariaR wrote:http://brantsteele.net/survivor/bloodvs ... c=QPJHwEfg
here you go

This is awesome. How have I never heard of this.

Also RUNNER UP YEAH

Wait that makes me first loser

I deserved to win. I had the most balanced game and played alliances the best.

Nacho and Desp were a threat. I'm glad we managed to get rid of them before endgame.

In post 4824, Andrius wrote:I see I am in a pair with Pine.
This is acceptable.

BRO I tried to save you! And you voted for me in the end!

BRO

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:38 am

Oh look. The same people who were the core of the Creature wagon are again the core of the Nacho wagon, getting just as ignored and ridiculed.

HMMMM

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:13 am

I'm not sure that either of them are, actually.

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:15 am

I see scum going after threats to themselves and Desp, who is kind of low-hanging fruit.

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:35 am

Maria, though I'm getting cold feet about my read on her. My PoE points to Nos or possibly Andy as the alternative (Plz don't be scum Paladin Andy you break my heart

)

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:43 pm

In post 4925, McMenno wrote:pine are you town

Yes. Dude, I dont bus like that. Check my meta, I almost never bus unless there's a guilty in play.

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:30 pm

In post 4947, Desperado wrote:Why does Nacho defend creature so hard and then bus anyway?

Because he was hoping to derail the Creature lynch, then saw the writing on the wall.

It is completely beyond me why this is so complicated.

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:00 pm

Awesome. Strahdians in the house

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:05 pm

In post 4973, gerryoat wrote:muy nacho pls

Pine · Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:10 pm

Nnnnnnnnope.

Pine · Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:14 am

What the fuck is this Zach wagon. Stop being useless.

Pine · Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:54 am

What the fuck is this Zach wagon. Stop

being useless

piling onto a wagon that isn't happening and is probably on Town.

Pine · Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:51 am

In post 5011, Andrius wrote:Pine, being an ass isn't going to win you any favors.

I don't really need favors. I need to wash the socks.

Pine · Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:04 pm

In post 5033, McMenno wrote:I'll be your man-at-arms

In post 5034, drealmerz7 wrote:and I'll be your He-Man!

Pine · Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:03 pm

Firebringer wrote:pine is too good as scum.
maybe we should fear lynch him?

ALL IN FAVOR!?!?!?!?

Pish posh. I just keep drawing scum lately.

This is one of the few games since my glorious return where I drew Town.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:42 am

Again, if Nacho were Town, this would be easier.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:57 pm

I have cut back on my current games so I'm not overloaded.

This game made the cut because I like you people.

Well, some of you.

Mostly just Andy. And sometimes Sly. Also Nacho when he's not scum.

REJOICE

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:05 pm

In post 5459, Andrius wrote:I hate to break it to you Pine but I gave my heart to Maria.
We're both town this game and I'm trying my best to make her happy after I broke her heart in THE THING.
And you might be a dirty sock.

I'm a fluffy clean towel. With a nifty design.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:08 pm

I could drink.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:11 pm

Yes, I do. I have made that quite clear.

This is not a matter of me being inflexible, it is a matter of "I don't find your argument convincing, and you haven't actually varied it, just repeated it a bunch of times." If you want to convince me that McMenno or Gerry are scum, make a case on them that doesn't suck harder than my grandmother's 50s-era vacuum.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:12 pm

I mean, whatever happened to people getting a solid read and sticking to it? Why in the hell would I change my mind just because it's an unpopular opinion? Fuck off, that's not how I roll.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:52 pm

In post 5471, Andrius wrote:Sly can we chat?

What do you think of [Nacho, Desp]?
Because I'm second-guessing myself a bit and don't like it.

In post 5472, SlySly wrote:
In post 5471, Andrius wrote:Sly can we chat?

What do you think of [Nacho, Desp]?
Because I'm second-guessing myself a bit and don't like it.
I got Desp as town.

I was curious as to your case on Nacho.

I also have Desp as Town, with the reservation that if Nacho flips Town, some of the suspicion moves to Desp. A lot of the day-end shenanigans with Creature were quirky behavior from both of them, but I was TRing Desp and SRing Nacho before it, so I stuck with my gut.

In post 5476, Andrius wrote:
In post 3997, Errantparabola wrote:
Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature
(9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne,
Tammy, Fro99er
, Desperado

SlySly
(4): drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

gerryoat
(2):
Toogeloo
, SlySly

Desperado
(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita
(1): Creature

Not Voting
(0):
17 players, 9 majority.
So I look at this. Bolded is dead town or MASONS.

There's got to be scum off the main wagon not doing anything unless we're thinking that THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM bussed Creature which would be ballsy since that's 3-4 people chilling on THE wagon.
Literally everyone on your (Sly) wagon could be scum except Maria.
drealmerz is doing some low-impact crap here that's basically opposite of everything I know him for - even if he disagrees ONLY on game theory or is scumreading me despite THE WORLD saying no (Strahd) he's going to be screaming his lungs out regardless. I think he has a decent chance to be scum.
Zach is a scumread for everything I've said before.
Nos is another low-impact says a few good things and disappears.

Toog is a mason. You're town.

Fire is leaning town but I would be 0% surprised if he were scum. I've basically based this entire read on his attitude. The I DONT APOLOGIZE was basically what he said to me when we were talking about being force-replaced and I was like "yeah no I was an ass" and he was like I DONT APOLOGIZE. So I think he's likely town.

The distractability away from the Creature wagon only really makes sense if scum were mostly trying to stay off it until the end. The "Oh fine" attitude of Nacho deciding he didn't have a choice but to bus is a key point in the case against him.

In post 5477, SlySly wrote:
In post 5473, Andrius wrote:Same, re: Desp.

I know.
And then I started thinking about why Nacho busses Creature and commits suicide as scum.
That would actually be moonbeams.
Like, some things are NAI for him. Defusing the Tammy/Andrius was just a NACHO AS A PERSON move so I don't see that either way.

I'm having trouble because his heart isn't here but he's also not pretending it is.
Look how different these are...

In post 3997, Errantparabola wrote:Creature (9 - LYNCH): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado

In post 5420, Errantparabola wrote:SlySly (6): Toogeloo, Nosferatu, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Firebringer, Zachstralkita
Scum be on my wagon.

drealmerz, poooosssssibly Nos.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:57 pm

Desperado wrote:
In post 5487, Pine wrote:I also have Desp as Town, with the reservation that if Nacho flips Town, some of the suspicion moves to Desp. A lot of the day-end shenanigans with Creature were quirky behavior from both of them, but I was TRing Desp and SRing Nacho before it, so I stuck with my gut.
this is what i mean by you being inflexible

nacho flipping town shouldnt shift any suspicion towards me at all,
it should be a wake up call that your interpretation of what happened is wrong

especially if you are townreading me right now

1 I saw similar things from you and Nacho.

2 Prior events suggested that you were Town and he was scum

3 Scum are unlikely to both do the same scummy things at the same time

4 This suggests that one, but not both of you are scum

5 If Nacho flips Town, that means my initial read was wrong, and it's probably you instead

6 Nacho isn't flipping Town, so why are you stressing?

7 Even if he does, you claim to be Town, so why are you stressing?

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:57 pm

In post 5489, Andrius wrote:I am ok lynching drealmerz.
He's scumreading me and not screaming for my death.

This goes against everything I know about him.

Nos had a few good posts I liked but that's like drops of water in a pail of blood.

EXACTLY

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:58 pm

TO ARMS

FLASHWAGON GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOOOOOO

VOTE: drealmerz

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:01 pm

Dude, I don't coast in all of my games for the sake of one. I've been really active here in comparison.

Just shut up, Desp. The entire premise of me being scum is dependent on me hard-bussing Creature, which doesn't happen. Ever.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:26 pm

In post 5501, Andrius wrote:
In post 5499, Andrius wrote:
In post 5497, Pine wrote:The entire premise of me being scum is dependent on me hard-bussing Creature, which doesn't happen. Ever.

In post 2525, President Snow wrote:
Vote Count 2.11

Randomidget -[2] Secret Agent Jin, Creature,

Creature - [8] The Underachievers, Randommidget, Dunnstral, Realeo, Hermie,
Pine
, BulbaFenix, Blawb,

Not Voting - [4] curiouskarmadog, Froot Loop, Camn, hiplop,

Mod Notes - Only votes for Creature or Randomidget will be counted.
Deadline has been extended due to the holidays, 3 days have been added to clock. No prods will go out during next few days. Have a wonderful Turkey Day.
cursiouskarmadog is V/LA till 27th
Realeo is V/LA till 27th

With 14 Alive, It Takes 8 To Lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-12-01 20:00:00)!
Yeah uh ignore me.
Reading the game was overrated and then there was this 1v1 thing and Pine voted the other guy first.

My b.
I just knew Creature and Pine were scum in HUNGER GAMES and had to go look.

Randomidget and Creature were gladiated at the time, and someone (I forget who) had a claimed guilty. It is not the same.

PEdit: Okay, you read the extenuating circumstances. Saltier bits of the reply redacted.

I challenge anyone to find any game in the last three or four years where I hardbussed a scumbuddy without similar circumstances. Bussing is a HIGHLY overrated tactic.

Pine · Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:35 pm

Yeah, you keep demanding I admit that you're the correct one in our philosophical difference on this, and you keep failing to make any kind of persuasive argument.

Bussing isclever and revolutionary when people aren't expecting it. Site meta now expects it. It even over-anticipates it, to a degree. Sticking by your scumbuddies is a stronger strategy, and I think most people know it. Nacho certainly does. Early hardbussing makes no fucking sense in the present meta.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying it shouldn't.

Pine · Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:11 am

Yeah, after the middle of D1 or so this game slowed right down to a reasonable pace. This is PINE saying that, and I've been crusading across the site for less egoposting, more conciseness, and against bloated games that are hard to keep up with. D2 has averaged less than seven pages per RL day, which isn't unreasonable for an active Large. You've been active lurking, an allegation which your prompt and informed reply supports. Honestly, that fact more than anything Desp has said makes me wonder about the validity of the Nacho wagon.

Tally ho, folks, drealmerz is the correct lynch today!

Pine · Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:21 am

In other words, everyone who knows you well enough to know that this is your scum meta.

Pine · Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:25 am

^Yeah this is bullshit

Pine · Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:27 am

Zachstralkita wrote:This wagon is disgusting

Please specify, there are at least three.

Pine · Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:05 am

In post 5617, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Hmm scumteam of Nacho/Dreamz/Andrius?

Close. I find Nacho/Drealmerz/{Maria or Nos} more likely.

In post 5621, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 5619, drealmerz7 wrote:why are you so insistant that I'm scum? it's silly
I tracked you to Tammy last night.

For reals? That would be super.

In post 5623, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5616, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 5611, Firebringer wrote: Zach you are either scum trying to detract or misguided town.

Way to pick the only two alignments I could be, nice detective work

do you really have a guilty
yes.

For reals?

Dude, seriously, if I pegged Creature/Nacho/Drealmerz on D1 this goes into my personal history books as my best Towngame ever.

VOTE: Nacho

Drealmerz tomorrow no question.

Choo choo!