~laundry~ FIN

[Desperado]

Nah

don't you have some batshit role that's never even been done before?

the existence of the goon with all of the claims that have happened/been softed suggests to me that it was added later

unless you think the other 3 scum are complete gods

[Desperado]

i could see them looking at a 13v4 with all sorts of power everywhere and just telling him to add another scum

No, that's not adding one scum.

That's converting one town to a scum. Huge difference from balance stand-point.

i know what i said

i think they could see all of the town power and say if he wants to keep it, X town PR needs to be a goon

[Desperado]

i also dont think a 4 man team would buss a goon as freely as most people seem to be assuming

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Barely anyone bussed Creature till prob the very end.

Which is why it was hard to lynch him and distracting wagons like Gerry kept popping up.

[Desperado]

it's kinda like how denying climate change is stupid because if it's all bullshit and we don't address it then no harm no foul, but if it isn't bullshit....

[Desperado]

Barely anyone bussed Creature till prob the very end.

Which is why it was hard to lynch him and distracting wagons like Gerry kept popping up.

so you're completely rejecting toog's interpretation?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hence one of you or Nacho is scum because it was like you me Nacho Tammy Toogeloo getting in at the end.

[Desperado]

or, we're town and the scum were already bussing

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Then they would've been here at deadline and possibly switched to Sly but like no one else was here at deadline.

Unless Sly is also scum and a strong PR that they were on Creature in the beginning.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Which brings me back to my original point... why do you have a strong townread on Sly.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

(Who also conveniently didn't get on Creature so he doesn't get to "prove" his doublevoter condition)

[Desperado]

Then they would've been here at deadline and possibly switched to Sly but like no one else was here at deadline.

Unless Sly is also scum and a strong PR that they were on Creature in the beginning.

they wouldn't move to sly because they had invested in bussing creature

[Desperado]

did you miss the whole tete a tete that sly and i had?

[Pine]

Nah

don't you have some batshit role that's never even been done before?

the existence of the goon with all of the claims that have happened/been softed suggests to me that it was added later

unless you think the other 3 scum are complete gods

My role has been done before, I just haven't seen it used, or at least not in a long time. For the record, I quite like my role, and it's a doozy.

Reviewers lately are skewing towards Townsided.

I think that there are a healthy amount of scum PRs, and there is at least one negative utility Town role (Hated) to balance it. At least two, if Desperado's Miller claim is legit.

[Desperado]

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature

(9 - LYNCH):

McMenno

,

gerryoat

, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado

SlySly

(4): drealmerz7,

Zachstralkita

, Nosferatu,

MariaR

gerryoat

(2): Toogeloo, SlySly

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

[Desperado]

something like that

[Desperado]

miller isn't negative utility with a weak cop

[Pine]

Barely anyone bussed Creature till prob the very end.

Which is why it was hard to lynch him and distracting wagons like Gerry kept popping up.

That's the argument I was making at the end of D1. I think the scum that reluctantly bussed was Nacho. It also soft-clears Gerry imo.

Votecount 1.26 - FINAL

Creature (9 - LYNCH):

McMenno

,

gerryoat

, Pine, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Ser Arthur Dayne, Tammy, Fro99er, Desperado
SlySly (4): drealmerz7,

Zachstralkita

, Nosferatu,

MariaR

gerryoat (2): Toogeloo, SlySly
Desperado (1): Firebringer
Zachstralkita

(1):

Creature

Not Voting

(0):
17 players, 9 majority.

If you're going to do this can you bold the colored names? Thin red is very difficult to distinguish from black on a pale background, or at least it is for me. I'm partially colorblind.

[Pine]

Wait, so red are scumreads? If so, bullshit on McMenno and Gerry. Gerry was a CW to Creature, and McMenno was like the first one on Creature, and stayed faithful the whole time.

[Desperado]

Wait, so red are scumreads? If so, bullshit on McMenno and Gerry. Gerry was a CW to Creature, and McMenno was like the first one on Creature, and stayed faithful the whole time.

[Desperado]

if scum were bussing creature being a CW to creature is irrelevant and yes, mcmenno was the first one on creature and stayed faithful the whole time without any depth to his read or really doing anything else then or since

huh

[Desperado]

almost like he was....


bussing

[drealmerz7]

gerry +sly likely could have both been scum CWs though

I know it is not likely, but, the way things went, you can't say for sure by any means

gerry is good lynch, nacho is not I think yet

[McMenno]

Also McMenno you seem convinced that drealmer is town pretty early. Are you approaching that read with more caution now after seeing him win PYP or is his play demonstrably different?

quite the opposite in fact... pyp drealmerz had like shit parfume all over his face so he could sweet talk people into victory... this is drealmerz "my reads are wrong but I don't care" town7

also I am one note... the c note, the first note most know of. will you dance with me to the tune

[McMenno]

as for my other reads? I must say that I don't have a clear direction at the moment, my only scumread at the moment is probably nacho, and going down are various flavors of mediocrity...

drealmerz is defenitely town, sad is also strong town

le sly slice is probably town as well