Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[ZONEACE]

meep meep meep

meep.

Oh god please don't let this be a posting restriction.



also, this game is gonna be friggin fun.

also, the old faithful method of close your eyes and point method of dayone random voting brings me to a

vote faerielord

Oh, im jealouse im not the nudist lover. that would hot.

[ZONEACE]

meep meep meep?

Are you the Roadrunner?

1 meep for yes, 2 meeps for no

[ZONEACE]

Aren't I the cutest thing ever?

anyways, random

Vote: Belgarion

[ZONEACE]

I am unimpressed. Doing the same thing every game is boring UA. You need to start voting for the mod, or first person on the list or something.

or the president or something, maybe prom king?

[ZONEACE]

I'm just going to keep saying true things, guys, seriously.

The Steelers are the best team in the NFL

unvote vote bamboomancer

[ZONEACE]

I'm not gonna quote it as i think it has something to do with the game and may affect me if I do, but what does everyone think of Thyroid's RenFair thing. I mean, if thats a RL thing, thing whatever, but it just seems weird, and what with this being a designer game, I'm curious what other people think.

[ZONEACE]

obviously, but i'm wary in games like this to quote people who say "quote this and something will happen" I'd rather be alive to help the town win than fall victim to some trap mechanic and get daykilled day 1 (especially because designers are always so fun with the weird shit that goes on with the crazy roles people make up)

[ZONEACE]

No, actually, thats not, the example i was thinking of was you have some sort of mechanic whereby quoting you could somehow lead to my death, and yes i realize foolinc quoted you and is very much still alive, but i'd rather not quote a section of your post you'd like us all to quote until i know why it is you'd like us all to quote it (yes i know you say we get a ticket to the RenFair, but why do you want us all to go to the RenFair?)

[ZONEACE]

I think Nocmen has to say specific numbers of "meep"s per page...

ok except page one was 9, page two was 0, page three was 13, page four was 3 and so far on page five its been 13. So, hows that then.

[ZONEACE]

Also, including a role just to balance out another is bad design.

Isn't the point of EVERY role to balance another role.

[ZONEACE]

Right. Which is why making a role that deliberately balances out another role is bad design. The role should be balanced by all the other roles anyway.

So lyncher/lynchee roles are bad design??? Roles where one of your goals is to find a specific player are bad design? cause there are MANY GAMES that have these types of roles. And i wouldn't go about calling the designers of those games Bad Designers.

Do not accuse me of things, allow me to defend myself, and then ignore the defense and procede with accusing me of things.

Thats all well and good but your defense is moot because its non-existant. Trust me=/=a defense

[ZONEACE]

unvote

vote thyroid

you just keep digging deeper and deeper.

[ZONEACE]

you're not even trying are you.

:frown:

says the one who won't answer any questions and just keeps insisting they're good.

[ZONEACE]

ok guys just so we're all aware, that's -3.

[ZONEACE]

This wagon is horseshit for obvious reasons. This site doesn't impress me.

well honey, i hate to break it to you, but you don't impress us.


maybe if you actually fucking explained yourself instead of just "trust me" ad infinitum then maybe you wouldn't be bandwagoned. you really are just bringing this on yourself.



Also if there is a jester (or similar role) in this game i will personally kill MoS and whoever submitted it.

[ZONEACE]

you really expect to just skate through the day without giving anymore information when you start the day with your pseudo cryptic BUY MY TICKETS post with explanation?

[ZONEACE]

And you are going to have to give me a damn good reason why I should claim something that won't work if I claim it.

if you were giving us a little more than "hai gaiz bai mai tktz, trust me kthxbai" we wouldn't be pushing you to claim.

[ZONEACE]

ITS DAY 1 WHY SHOULD WE FUCKING TRUST YOU? you can't trust anyone on day one. its just a ludicrous request. We can't trust you, because WE HAVE NO REASON TO TRUST YOU.

[ZONEACE]

(which is a really, really stupid bandwagon. What, someone's going to fake-claim a verifyable role on day 1?)

Do we know its verifiable? All thyroid has said is that it helps the town and trust me. No indication we'll get any sort of verification that the role works. (unless i missed a post somewhere)

[ZONEACE]

ok thats at least the second letter Nocmen has made out of meeps

We've had a C, and now an F.

[ZONEACE]

Also, BM, maybe you weren't the person calling him Zoneface, but I know a few others on this site have referred to him as that before.

more like half the people who've ever seen my screen name on any site throughout the manny sites found in the tubes of teh intarweb

[ZONEACE]

so how bout that lynching the Ren Faire guy? can we get back to that?

[ZONEACE]

if we're just gonna let him live then we definately shouldnt have anyone else buy the tickets, cause if he is evil we're jsut setting ourselves up to fail but having all the townies pile into the trap.


but i still say we lynch him.

[ZONEACE]

ZF: ... because having a power is anti-town?

yeah, clearly thats what I said

He claims to have some super powerful ability that will be very good for the town. Gives no explanation, and just says trust me. Its all very suspicious.

[ZONEACE]

Hi. Can't wait until you manage to read past page five.

Hi. Can't wait until you manage to do something pro-town.

[ZONEACE]

and you haven't given a reason we should trust you besides "hai trst megais"

[ZONEACE]

we are also talking about your lack of trustworthiness.

[ZONEACE]

Meh. I like the way he's defended himself, and I like the way he's scumhunted, and furthermore, I don't think trusting him is going to throw the game away even if he is scum.

trust me =/= a defense or scumhunting.

[ZONEACE]

He deconstructed scenarios proposing him as an anti-town role, he's built a nice little case on foolinc above, he's attacked stark - yes, he's been scumhunting and defending himself.

he's attacked 3 people that are (or were) voting for him.


thats known as OMGUS.

[ZONEACE]

hi thyroid's scumbuddy

[ZONEACE]

hey look I'm scum hunting guys. YAY, i'm just as much not scum as thyroid. aren't i smart. FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

[ZONEACE]

Anything I need to be aware of at this point?

B-

Thyroid is scum

[ZONEACE]

hey look I'm scum hunting guys. YAY, i'm just as much not scum as thyroid. aren't i smart. FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

seriously...

srsly

[ZONEACE]

Ok guys, I'm sorry, I'll stop with the thyroid pushing until tomorrow (unless things change) but unless a valid reason arises (ie, someone else pops up as scummy) I won't be removing my vote from him.

I still find the whole "trust me" thing to be utter wifom, but clearly Im not convincing any of you.

Also, CKDs post is full of win.

Letting us know how many tickets have been sold so far and to who will be helpful.


Also, I have a question. Is the effect that is helpful to the town something that can be built to over time, or does it have to be acheived on one single day (can the tickets be purchased over time by different people to help the town or for the effect to be beneficial do a certain number of people have to buy them all the same day)

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace backtracking?
nay, Zoneace listening to what people tell him?

FoS: Zoneace

so wait, going after thyroid makes me suspicious, and then saying i'll pull back on the agressive attacks for today makes me suspicious, so essentially, I'm suspicious for breathing?

[ZONEACE]

Yes.

ok, just wanted to make sure i had that right.

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace backtracking?
nay, Zoneace listening to what people tell him?

FoS: Zoneace

so wait, going after thyroid makes me suspicious, and then saying i'll pull back on the agressive attacks for today makes me suspicious, so essentially, I'm suspicious for breathing?

Yes.

because it seems no matter what i do in this game people think its suspicious. i went after someone who I thought was scum, pretty hard People got upset thought it was suspicious told me to back off. I agree to back off for today.


why so suspicious of someone for no real reason.

going after Thyroid was not really suspicious. you backtracking was. why so defensive?

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace backtracking?
nay, Zoneace listening to what people tell him?

FoS: Zoneace

so wait, going after thyroid makes me suspicious, and then saying i'll pull back on the agressive attacks for today makes me suspicious, so essentially, I'm suspicious for breathing?

Yes.

going after Thyroid was not really suspicious. you backtracking was. why so defensive?

because it seems no matter what i do in this game people think its suspicious. i went after someone who I thought was scum, pretty hard People got upset thought it was suspicious told me to back off. I agree to back off for today.


why so suspicious of someone for no real reason.


woops, accidentally put my response within the quotes on that last post.

[ZONEACE]

Now you see, there's your problem. If you think someone is scum, dont listen to other people trying to put down your argument. If you genuinely feel someone is scum, you keep pushing their wagon,

regardless of

ESPECIALLY if it is opposed strongly by people.
Thats the reason im suspicious of you. You arent the sort of player that i would describe as weak-willed. Plus you seem very defensive about people attacking you. Again, this seems out of character.

Vote: Zoneace

if i'm not already.

hey genius, if you'll notice, i'm still voting for him. is till think he's scum. But nothing i do today is gonna get him lynched. Its pointless for me to try.


stop being retarded and trying to make it look like i just rolled over and let them rub my tummy.


i swear is everyone on this site completely braindead these days?



oh and schiz, eat shit and die.

[ZONEACE]

I am confused about the "case" against Thyro. He can not explain the role because it will not effect the mafia if he does. We either choose to believe it or not. Why lynch him for it? Zoneace, do you have any theories how this fare could hurt the town?

B-

I just think its a stupid idea for day one a bunch of townies to go along with this guy for no reason other than him saying "trust me it will help the town"


ITS DAY ONE WE HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT ANYONE. Trust me is not a good enough reason to for this big of a risk. and he still hasn't answered anyone's questions.


I for one would like to know if the effect is cummulative or if it all has to be done on one day.

[ZONEACE]

Lol! THIS is the Zoneace that i know and love.
i didnt really want the image of your 'tummy' being rubbed though.

seriously, it cant be a scumtell if i play a agressive and also a scum tell when i dont



which one is it? am i scum when im aggressive, or am i scum when i listen to the advice of the people around me and back off????


comeone BM, pick one. I'm waiting. WHich one is the scum tell, cause you can't have it both ways.


if you'd like i'll ad hom ad infinitum.

[ZONEACE]

lol Defensive-Zoneace = scum
Aggressive-Zoneace = town

HOWEVER that was before i pointed this out. Obviously your comments since have been deliberately aggressive in order to save your butt.

Vote stands.

BM

oh goodie, fucking retardation is just the funnest.


coudl you be grasping at straws a little harder?


you really have no reason to vote me at all, and you've pretty much admited. GG sir.

[ZONEACE]

vote count coming this evening, midterm in 3 hours >.<

and thats one of few reasons when i wish i was back in college i kick myself in the ass.

[ZONEACE]

unvote
vote: Zoneace

I liked foolinc's last few posts more than Ace's, but wanted to see a vote count before considering switching.

ok i truly am confused, why am i being voted for???


could you maybe explain before you make a logicless jump?

[ZONEACE]

oh, forgot to add, you're obvious oppurtunism is noted mneme.

[ZONEACE]

however, do you think the mneme is being oppurtunistic like Za suggests?

I am an easy target for someone wanting to not look suspicious while wagon hopping. I've been, loud, brash, and aggressive. Not too mention immediately before the vote switch i was the second largest wagon. I fail to see how its not oppurtunism.

[ZONEACE]

I can't find any questions directed at me. Can someone point them out?

Umm you mean like this one??????

Thyro, can you tell us how many tickets you have sold currently and who have bought those tickets? if you don’t get a majority, nothing happens, right? If you don’t get a majority today, but tomorrow, you do, does “it” still work?

OR this one????????????????????????????????????????????????

Also, I have a question. Is the effect that is helpful to the town something that can be built to over time, or does it have to be acheived on one single day (can the tickets be purchased over time by different people to help the town or for the effect to be beneficial do a certain number of people have to buy them all the same day)

cause that looks like 2 questions for you.

[ZONEACE]

Twomz and Zoneace are scumbuddies. nuff said.

BM is without logic or reason and should probably be ignored and lynched.

nuff said.

[ZONEACE]

Twomz and Zoneace are scumbuddies. nuff said.

You are saying my attack of mneme is a defense of Zoneace? ...Fair enough, I see where you could think that.

@ Zoneace: I disagree, BM drew a logical conclusion to the facts that are out there, just because you do not agree with someone does not mean that they are wrong (or stupid).

Except the reason she's suspicious of me is because I backed off the aggressive attacks on thyroid (at the same time were apparently suspicious themself)


She's trying to have it both ways. Her suspcions of me are meritless, and you got dragged into for "defending me" so her suspicion of you is meritless.

[ZONEACE]

woops, all those she's should be he's i forgot BM is a boy again.

[ZONEACE]

I think I know waht ZONEACE is doing regarding thyroid.

and that would be what?

[ZONEACE]

Can you quote/quote]

yes

LIAR

[ZONEACE]

yes

LIAR

[ZONEACE]

FL, I never said I was alright with Kaliedoscope's vote.

And why the hell would a doc be investigating someone?

clearly it was a typo nocmen.

[ZONEACE]

nocmen

[ZONEACE]

yes nocmen?

[ZONEACE]

wow, sucks to be us who said his name if MoS flipped the alignment.

[ZONEACE]

yes nocmen?

[ZONEACE]

Is it just me or does it feel like we haven't had a vote count in like a year and a half?

Otherwise, there's no other reason for me to be alive right now,

Right, cause helping us actually CATCH SCUM is SOO NOT a reason to be alive.

[ZONEACE]

@Thyro. Shut up.

QFT

[ZONEACE]

Yes Nocmen?

And I am back from holiday's... I will be busy with finals for the next 3 weeks or so but I will still be posting, just hope I get enough of a stretch of time to accomplish something >.>

mafia is clearly more important than school. I mean, seriously, finals? fuck those.

[ZONEACE]

Not High School, College. If it was just High School I wouldn't give a crap and would just play mafia >.> However, College is actually important.

i refer you to my previous statement.

[ZONEACE]

ok i went back and read the first few pages and found that if Nocmen's PR is that his name must be said before he can post liek normal that he has violated it on at least 2 occassions just in the first few pages. Also, if that isn't his PR then whoever confirmed knowing about the PR (dont remember which player did that) is aligned with and in communication with Nocmen.

[ZONEACE]

ok jdodge i never saw where we "proved it had to be posted right after" but regardless he's posted before without having his name said

[ZONEACE]

because im acknowledging the fact that there might be other triggers.

[ZONEACE]

post 24 Aimee says his name

Post 26 he posts regular.

post 29 he posts again regular with no name in 27 or 28 (he was quoted in 27 but quoting failed to trigger the page before)

---------------------------

Post 68. Meeps

post 73 Regular

69-72 NO use of the name.

----------------------------------------

162 Post regular

165 Mneme says name

167 Meeps.

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there we are.

[ZONEACE]

instead of a more informative lynch.

like, perhaps, you.

[ZONEACE]

informative, in the best interest of the town, you know, sometimes i get those two confused.

[ZONEACE]

No shit.

[ZONEACE]

I know I remember someone saying it, so if you wanna take the credit I'll believe it was you.

[ZONEACE]

I know I remember someone saying it, so if you wanna take the credit I'll believe it was you.

[ZONEACE]

hmm don't know how the hell that happened. but, woops

[ZONEACE]

Wait, when did I defend schis? I honestly don't remember doing that, and honestly it seems really out of character for me (i mean real character not game character)

[ZONEACE]

A certain someone asked why a doc would be investigating anyone, and ZONE and Twomz both answered him that it was clearly a typo. That's what pinged me. Especially since I can see a simple explanation which doesn't assume he meant other than what he said: if we have a doc to keep the cop safe, the cop is to investigate thyroid first. That would be gross rolefishing on schism's part, but it is a sufficiently simple explanation that it is odd that the typo assumption was leapt to.

I'm astonished at the utter grasping going on in this logic, or really absence of. It was clearly a brain fart. A DOC CAN'T INVESTIGATE. Suggesting the doc investigate someone would be the LAMEST rolefish ever if thats what it was. only someone with an IQ legally regarded as equating to retardation would come forward and reveal their role as a result of this.

[ZONEACE]

oy, waht the fuck do you want now nocmen?

[ZONEACE]

bamboom was voting for belg at the time of replacement so thats why oman is voting for belg.

[ZONEACE]

Ok I'm going back on my word. I'm going back to agressively pushing for Thyroids lynch.


Please let us rid ourselves of his prescence.

[ZONEACE]

The following people are close to being prodded:

Nocmen
Kscope
ZONEACE

Umm i posted less than 36 hours ago and posted several times on tuesday. why am I close to being prodded?

[ZONEACE]

Did anyone else notice that Faerielord is voitng for Nocmen twice?

[ZONEACE]

Ugh why is it still day 1????? Can we seriously end this day sometime soon?

[ZONEACE]

I feel dirty, but yeah, Jdodge is probably right about nocmen and/or mneme.

[ZONEACE]

unvote vote nocmen

[ZONEACE]

So folks any info on the renn faire? or can we lynch Thyroidscum yet?

[ZONEACE]

I always contradict myself. Show me where I did this time, if you will.

Shows the meeper all of day 1.

[ZONEACE]

@flea: I jacked who in the what now?

You have two votes and Kison doesn't have any.

Simplest explanation: You somehow took his vote.

True/False?

VOTES DON'T COUNT.


It's kingmaker

[ZONEACE]

wait, wtf. TSS is not in the void? and not scum?



WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

[ZONEACE]

Dude, read much?

dude, contradict yourself much?

[ZONEACE]

can we just not say his name anymore? let him meep for eternity.

[ZONEACE]

exactly, and thats how it should be.

[ZONEACE]

vote the meeper

[ZONEACE]

First is ZONEACE, for his general apathetic attitude, his lack even paying a bit of attention to schis, and his bumbling right before my lynch.

Wait, you were lynched? and I bumbled right before it? When did that happen?

[ZONEACE]

Pay attention Jedi, he did not sale enough yesterday. What I am more curious about though (in regards to him) is why he isnt trying to sale them today.

Hmm that's how i read jedi's post. That thyroid hadn't tried to sell them today.


WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD KILL HIM. he's clearly BSing.

[ZONEACE]

At least some people are constant in their roles.

you mean constant in their lies, right?

[ZONEACE]

umm yeah cause things I said yesterday relevent to yesterday have an impact on things i say today relevent today. oh no thats right, they don't nice try though.

[ZONEACE]

Also, since I don't have the chance now, the reason why I'm not advertising the tickets is because I don't have to (the effect lasts the whole game, and renews every day), and because people told me not to. I haven't clarified this yet because I hoped ZONEACE would read the game and my posts where I have

already said this

, but he obviously is scum, so we don't have to worry about that.

you are clearly retarded.


end of the story.

[ZONEACE]

so......... is MOS V/LA?

[ZONEACE]

yeah hed said he'd be leaving, but if he abandoned the game then we need the back up to take ove dont we?

[ZONEACE]

ebwop: has someone contacted IH?

[ZONEACE]

HAH I HAVE THE SETUP! ZOMG!

When was the last votecount, or is there anything else recquired of me? I'll be keeping a watch on the mean time if MoS goes missing.

MoS quit the site, Shanaba Executed knightson the day should be over.

[ZONEACE]

ebwop woops, that's nightson, no k.

[ZONEACE]

yeah he just posted in Mafia 70 over in New York too. not sure why he's ignoring htis game. has anyone tried PMing him?

[ZONEACE]

Im trying to find it. my in box is quite cluttered. i need to clean house.

[ZONEACE]

vote kscope

he's really done nothing but skate by on voting and unvoting without any contribution. Every single one of his posts, excluding him quoting are only one or 2 lines of text, and almost half of his 22 posts are votes or unvotes.

[ZONEACE]

Wait, isn't shanba dead. IM SO FUCKING CONFUSED This game is so damn confusing.



But with that said. KScope needs to die. Lynch Him Please.

[ZONEACE]

Scum: JDodge, ZONEACE. Those who turn their scum-hunting powers to evil shall in their own turn be hunted

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you even trying to hide the fact that you're scum?

[ZONEACE]

IMO: Nocmen had some kind of investigatory role. Pro-town, post restriction usually = investigate.

The blue shirt probably let him target someone else and dupe their power -- in this case, he duped the "fake someone's death in the morning post" power...in the night he himself died.

that's a bit of a stretch in logic dont you think? I mean really? Am i the only one that doens't come to that conclussion?

[ZONEACE]

Also, could someone explain to me what the deal with kscope is? I re-read a bit and did not find anything especially interesting, although I definately could have missed something.

I went back and re read and his posts have been completely useless, but he's been making enough of them to stay under the radar. It just makes me think he needs to be lynched as its likely he's scum with such behavior. I mean, in the past when i've seen that sort of behavior its been a person that is scum. Especially as intentional as it is. Its not like someone accidentally staying under the radar, there's a definite intention to his posts.

[ZONEACE]

Alright man, I see what you're saying. However, I think we should make sure we consider others before we lynch a player purely on the basis of non-activity.

it snot NON-activity, it's intentional limited activity.


and i already TRIED lynching people based on other reasons. it didn't take.

[ZONEACE]

Why didnt you tell us about the role yesterday? So far red/teal/yellow all sound Star Trek like. We all know what happens to the man in red shirt. I would like to know the other colors.

thats not a terrible thought, except there aren't 6 star trek uniform colors are there? Theres Yellow, Red, Teal/Blue and thats it.

[ZONEACE]

I'd prefer not to if I still don't have to. There are a lot of tricks up my sleeve, and I'd rather here a good solid reason of why this theory makes sense before I spill them.

EXCEPT YOU KEEP PULLING ABILITIES OUT OF YOUR ASS WITHOUT EXPLANATION


Start talking or start dying.

[ZONEACE]

Im so friggin confused. So 2 people have claimed to created 2 of Nocmen's role?


right ok. this is all very odd.

[ZONEACE]

yeah, i guess. I also don't think we should rush to lynch Jdodge. He CLEARLY suspected noc. so umm, vigging him is a possibility. Also. Mneme you claim noc hinted at the horros, could you link, cause i dont feel like weeding through so many pages of shit to find it.

[ZONEACE]

it doesn't matter if anone double voted during that time, THE VOTES DIDN'T COUNT YOU COULD HAVE VOTED 10,000 TIMES IF YOU WANTED. The only vote that mattered was the king, Shanaba.

[ZONEACE]

if it didnt count, why did he double vote? did anyone else? I want to test his ability..because I strongly doubt there are two double voters (of sorts) in this game. Twomz, you were not that far off on your read on me role. Now you were way off on my alignment, but you were pretty on with the role.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU NOT GETTING. YESTERDAY NOBODY'S VOTES COUNTED IT DOESNT MATTER IF ANY VOTED MORE THAN ONCE. WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD OF A CONCEPT. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE??????

[ZONEACE]

EDWOP

viewtopic.php?p=887290#887290

UA voted twice yesterday, for 2 people in the same post.


are you beginning to understand yet belg?

[ZONEACE]

There were (or at least appeared to be) some inconsistencies in the way NOC was posting and his claim. That gave me enough reason to want him dead. I really think lynching liars is probably a good idea in general.

also Twomz, why are you talking about a deadline lynch. THE DAY JUST STARTED. why do you want to give up and just let jdodge set at that amount til the deadline which could be weeks away.

fos twomz

its a little early to give up to the deadline.

[ZONEACE]

So just for the record since im COMPLETELY confused and not sure what to think. We have 2 people claiming the same triggered PR?

[ZONEACE]

Indeed. I'd also like to know if there are consequences for all the times he's had to edit back in... or if he was just told to do it with no real penalties.

thats a really great point.

[ZONEACE]

I'd rather lynch liars than potential Vigs

I have to agree with this, quite effusively.

[ZONEACE]

I'd rather lynch liars than potential Vigs

thats why twomz.

[ZONEACE]

Actually,

Unvote Vote: ZONEACE

pour que?

[ZONEACE]

Not to mention the fact that you still havent explained what you did when you targeted Shanba the night before he became king. you deflected all questionsa nd we seem to have ignored it.


How many powers do you have Thyroid?


the reason people think you're scummy is because YOU KEEP DOING SCUMMY THINGS. Coming up with like ability after ability is not beliveable. WE need answers from you. You clearly have some sort of info and you've admitted ot having it, so what is it? What do your tickets do? Why do you also have a night time ability? What is it?

[ZONEACE]

EBWOP, ok ignore half my post as it was a simulpost.

[ZONEACE]

so wait, you're controlling 2 characters in the game????

[ZONEACE]

Not as closely as i probably should. that last post jsut confused me. CKD just said Belg is his alt, well both he and Belg are in the game. so that would mean he's controlling 2 characters. Im going to do a reread in the next couple days, but that last post just confused me.

[ZONEACE]

ooooh, ok, i see. i just got confused when he claimed to control both of them and them both being in the playerlist in the OP

[ZONEACE]

Because he's about to be lycnhed.

[ZONEACE]

ooh I was one of them.

[ZONEACE]

So, mr meepers, do we no longer need to say your name?

[ZONEACE]

TSS: Yeah. EDBP:


Armix is very funny. Also, probably scum. May go into why after we lynch his buddy, ZONEACE.

... You want to explain that one to me? Especially since you aren't even voting for me.

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace : where tha fuck are ya, brosef?

Busy trying to figure out what's going on, cause I'm completely fucking confused. I def need to re-read a couple times.

[ZONEACE]

^^^^I have no clue what you just said? You drop the game?

I assume he meant he lost track of it. It dropped from his radar.


Welcome fonz

[ZONEACE]

So wait, being confused about a game that is more than slightly confusing makes me scum???

Ok, i admit, i was completely wrong about Jdodge. I wasn't getting the same scum vibe that everyone else was getting. My Scumdar clearly needs repairing. But I still fail to see how makes me scum. At the sake of being WIFOMy, at this point in the game, with the amount of scum that have been lynched and as of yet no indication of multiple scum groups, putting myself at risk by taking a unpopular stance with Jdodge would be idiotic were i scum. I know its not much a defense but that's the truth. I messed up my read of Jdodge, its not the first time i've mistakenly defended scum in a mafia game and it won't be the last.

[ZONEACE]

Thyroid is giving off icky vibes, he claims good posts are bad and votes w/o reasoning. The tickets are weird too.

Hypothetical Vote Thyroid

Hilarious. You should be on stage.

I believe thefonz to be thoroughly town. I would switch to TSS, but I wub my wittle Kison vote so much.

Thyroid, he's basing this on the first 10 pages, no need to act so offended. It's not actually scummy, but you will be a better player if you didn't react like that. Its something people can and will attack in later games under false pretenses and you will get lynched for it at least once.

why wait for later games, this one seems like a good place to start.

[ZONEACE]

Zoneface: Did you read the part where I said it would be bad logic or are you just being a joker.

A little bit from column A a little bit from column B.

[ZONEACE]

Am I the only one that thinks it woulnd't be a terrible idea to lynch of the revived persons? I mean, you know, just to make sure we aren't in the process of being overrun with some sort of Zombie Cult?

[ZONEACE]

vote thyroid

how many different stories do you have?

[ZONEACE]

you might want to bold that.

[ZONEACE]

well nevermind.


anyway.


Also, Am I the only one worried that this might be some sort of death cult?

[ZONEACE]

well nevermind.


anyway.


Also, Am I the only one worried that this might be some sort of death cult?

please see my rant at the beginning of the day

Right, i thought I'd seen it somewhere before, but couldn't be positive.

[ZONEACE]

I would like to once again suggest we lynch one of the revived persons as it will allow us to discover if we are under attack from a zombie cult without testing the theory on what could be a highly useful powerrole in a pro-town reviver.

[ZONEACE]

as much as I hate to agree with zoneace, lynching one of the resurrected might not be that bad of an idea..however, I am more interested in this Jedi/TSS thing. I cant see a cult recruiter being so obvious..if we have a cult, it is probably one of these two.

right, but my point is that if we lynch one of the resurrected we can answer the question of IF immedieately. Until we have that answer positing the leader is essentially a waste of time and amounts to hot air on all accounts.

[ZONEACE]

Well, my theory is that you are a

scum

millerizer, Shanba. Yes, fakedeath Scope. The first night after his fakedeath, I would like a cop to investigate Scope. If Scope turns up town, which we pretty much already know he is, my theory is wrong. If Scope investigates as scum, Shanba is exposed as a liar and Armlx is tarred badly by association too.

yes lets out a cop to keep you alive another day

[ZONEACE]

I did not get any PM about a shirt. I got a PM regarding my own roles results from Night 2, and then nothing until Night 3 when I was told I was resed.

I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the town's answers. As I have said many times, I don't think I will live through the night anyways, so I'll give more information. The only thing is that this will cost a lynch.

If you guys want to do this gambit proposed by Zoneace and ckd.

Unvote, Vote: Nocmen

Meh i was gonna go with twomz

vote twomz

[ZONEACE]

Woah, nice one.

Vote Zoneace

Yeah, pushing for the lynch of a doc or cop/vig is really pro-town right now.

huh? I'm following a plan that NO ONE has objected to that I suggested a while ago. now, suddenly you speak up against it?

[ZONEACE]

umm i brought it up several days ago actually, but nice try

[ZONEACE]

Am I the only one that thinks it woulnd't be a terrible idea to lynch of the revived persons? I mean, you know, just to make sure we aren't in the process of being overrun with some sort of Zombie Cult?

there it is, from last friday. a week ago.

So, way to lie armlx.

[ZONEACE]

and we still may be indanger of being overrun by a zombie cult. I fail to see how we can trust ANY resurrected until we make sure tehy aren't zombies.

[ZONEACE]

really cause to me it looks like we (you and others) keep ignoring the very REAL possibility.

[ZONEACE]

well don't blame me when you become a zombie

[ZONEACE]

Fighting a cult whose recruits are publically known seems fairly easy.

Uneless we keep ignoring the possibility that its a cult, which is what you're suggesting. I'm suggesting we acquire knowledge immediately, you're suggesting we don't even attempt to acquire knowlege.

[ZONEACE]

huh wha?

[ZONEACE]

At this point I just want to lynch Zoneace and if he's town have TSS resurrect him. We know who is rezzed and who is doing the rezzing, if we are a zombie cult (we're not but if we were) then as soon as one of us dies you'd know and TSS would hang and it would be over. I don't get why he's making such a big deal about it.

However, there is no reason to assume that TSS's rezzes are always going to come back town, that would be a little overpowered. We need to watch and see if any recruited scum vibes seep out from the rezzed populace.

???? you wanna run that complete line of BS you just went through passed me one more time?

[ZONEACE]

I still think Killing one of the revived is the best play, but I can understand the logic behind killing shanba.

unvote vote shanba

(which until about 2 minutes ago i thought was named shanAba)

[ZONEACE]

this game just hurts my head more and more everyday.

[ZONEACE]

Twomz, do you think your investigations would turn up cult members as well as mafia? Or would it just be mafia members that trigger it?

I'm not competely against the idea of lynching a shirt reciever, but I'd rather not. Right now we've seen no ill effects from them.

considering he's a possible cult member i'll pass on trusting whether or not he does recieve cult results.

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace attacking cop results based on a cult that may or may not exist is scummy.

I'm not attacking, i'm choosing not to trust.

[ZONEACE]

Twomz, do you think your investigations would turn up cult members as well as mafia? Or would it just be mafia members that trigger it?

I'm not competely against the idea of lynching a shirt reciever, but I'd rather not. Right now we've seen no ill effects from them.

considering he's a possible cult member i'll pass on trusting whether or not he does recieve cult results.

No part of that post was an attack. I am choosing not to trust someone. theres a big difference. attacking someone is attempting to lynch them. you all seem to have decided to not test for a cult by lynching one of the revived players so I've decided to stop wasting my time. Yesterday it was an attack on twomz. Yesterday i was trying for the lynch, today, i'll just stick with not trusting him since you all seem to be unconcerned with the possible cult.

[ZONEACE]

um trying to make people doubt them? How can I make people doubt results when i can't even make people consider the very real threat of a cult.

[ZONEACE]

No i tried yesterday. today, i've resigned myself to the fact that i'm the only one that realizes there's a problem we aren't dealing with.

[ZONEACE]

The only way we'd know who to look for is if one of them died. if they were immune to NKs which would be the most logical way to balance the easy discovery, then the only way we'd learn would be to lynch one of them.

Am I honestly the only one at this point that thinks its AT LEAST worth a test?

[ZONEACE]

FUD??

[ZONEACE]

my worries are still valid.

[ZONEACE]

The possibility of a zombie cult is just that, possible.

I am worried that there might be a zombie cult.

QED

validation

[ZONEACE]

my QED still stands.

[ZONEACE]

I've proven my concerns have validity, that was all i was going for. Probability does not figure into them.

[ZONEACE]

...

honestly, this is so easy to prove one way or the other. If we lynch one of the revived players we will know 100% whether we're dealing with a zombie cult or not. this isn't some idea that is in anyway unverifiable.

[ZONEACE]

I don't disagree there COULD be a zombie cult, but in the same way there COULD be a Jester I couldn't care less at this point in time.

ues but TRYING to lynch a possible jester CAN'T help the town. trying ot lynch a Possible cult member CAN help the town. so your analogy is flawed

[ZONEACE]

Didn't TSS claim to be the reviver?

that's not what CKD asked. CKD asked if anyone had claimed MAKING THE ROLE.

[ZONEACE]

Yeah it's been a long time since i've been in a game with cult of any kind (like it was before i left 3 years ago.) but i never remember the cult dying when the leader was killed. I seem to remember my experience being that they it went one of 2 ways. They reverted back to townies because without the influence of their benevolent leader the brainwashing wore off, OR they remained cultist and had to rely on influencing the lynches enough to get themselves to a majority (so essentially they became a seperate mafia wihtout a kill)

[ZONEACE]

I've just found out that for today, my vote is double, which I'm willing to use on stark.

QFT

[ZONEACE]

reading is tech. you should try it.

fos tss and ssf

[ZONEACE]

its day 5 why do you only have 1 persons info?

[ZONEACE]

at this point so am I but tss and ssf are definitely listing.

[ZONEACE]

vote nonny

im unconvinced. but I'm still in favor of lynching tss and ssf as well at this point.

[ZONEACE]

Well, I couldn't come up with a believable fake claim so I'm gonna just be honest, even though its gonna get me lynched. I'm Neutral. I'm the Lowlife Lyncher. Each night i get a new random target, if they get lynched the next day I win and leave the game and the town gets 2 days in a row. I don't know if that means that after the winning lynch there is no night, or that after the next day there is no night. I suppose i could ask for clarification. I'll go through my PMs and find all of my past targets and post them in the next post.

Just a personal note, out of self preservation, I ihaven't been trying to work against the town. My attacks on thyroid were because i genuinely didn't (and still don't trust him). TSS and ssf are really rubbing me the wrong way. And based on recent events on the claim, nonny should be lynched today (nonny is not my target for today.)

[ZONEACE]

Here are my targets

Day 1 was FaerieLord
Day 2 was Sir Tornado
Day 3 was Kscope
Day 4 was Twomz
Day 5 is JediKnight

[ZONEACE]

Why do you think there would be two neutral instant game winning abilities?

huh?

[ZONEACE]

Fuck it, it should be obvious that ZONEACE needs vigging.

and no i shouldn't there are clearly better targets than me. I'm not a threat to the town.

[ZONEACE]

Why do you think there would be two neutral instant game winning abilities?

huh?

You said that my role had a "win when you reach a majority" condition. That's an instant win. "You win when you lynch XX" is also an instant win condition. A SK or survivor, for example, is not.
So why do you think there would be two in a game?

And yes, you are 100 times better than any of the other vigging options.

Umm, are you suggesting that I'm lying about my role??? I mean, I do kinda suck at making up fake claims but i submited 5 roles to this game (one of which of killed in the pre-game) so if i really wanted to make something up I'd pick one of the other 4 and hope it had been left out.

you want proof, then let's lynch JediKnight.

[ZONEACE]

I'm not suggesting actually lynching you jedi, if you hadn't noticed, I haven't made ANY attempt to get you lynched. Honestly, what would be the point of be faking a lyncher role? Lynchers generally are looked at positiely by the town. seriously if I was gonna fake claim I'd pull out Witness for the Government, and claim immunity to mafia kills or the one that was killed N0, Doc Brown, and claim i could go back in time and track the events of previous nights (which with my role wouldn't be too terrible of a way to get my target lynched).

Frankly I am an asset to the town. I'm a non threat. and Once my target and the towns match I can get out of the towns way and leave them with one less not strictly pro-town possibility later in the game when confusion could hinder the town. Seriously, we have at least 3 people right now that are better targets than me for the town to go after. I fail to see how I am such an immediate and necessary threat

[ZONEACE]

Honestly, what would be the point of be faking a lyncher role? Lynchers generally are looked at positiely by the town.

that should say AREN'T looked at positively. my bad.

[ZONEACE]

Norinel is listed as Time Traveler. I assumed that was the role I submited.

[ZONEACE]

Twomz, why investigate him when our cop can also kill him on the spot. We know his goal for a lynch is not going to be the same as our own if he is telling the truth.

um My goal for a lynch could very well be the same as the town's. its random. If i get the name of someone that the town decides to target that day then our goals are the same. If they aren't the same, I'm fully willing to put my goal on the back burner until it coincides with the towns. Why are you trying to derail the good lead we have for today and tonight and put it on me, one that is much less favorable for the town?

[ZONEACE]

Twomz, why investigate him when our cop can also kill him on the spot. We know his goal for a lynch is not going to be the same as our own if he is telling the truth.

This is actually the most ridiculous post i've read in a long time. It's in my BEST INTEREST for my goal for a lynch to be the same as the town's. I WIN IF IT IS. please stop lying and trying to mislead everyone, its rather annoying.

[ZONEACE]

um My goal for a lynch could very well be the same as the town's. its random.

Could is the operative word.

You definitely are playing the "neutral trying to survive" part well if you are scum though.

I AM a neutral trying to survive. Read my other games, when I'm caught, i can't save my self if my life depends on it (which it does in those cases) I've had ONE (1) good outing as scum since i came back and that was in the R-1000 mini theme.

[ZONEACE]

but i submited 5 roles to this game (one of which of killed in the pre-game) so if i really wanted to make something up I'd pick one of the other 4 and hope it had been left out..

I don't see any proof that you didn't do that. Your only proof for that was that you are bad at making up claims. But you made 5 roles. SO evidently you can make up a role, and since one got picked I'm willing to bet they aren't half bad either.

I wrote 5 roles, not 5 good roles. One was an absolute joke titled Flying Pumpkin that Shoots Lasers out of its ass. and one is a role that i ripped off from a game i was in over 3 years ago that i think has become an uncommon but sometimes used role on the site.

[ZONEACE]

my target for today is mneme

[ZONEACE]

No. I took out jediknight. I was not sure what he really was doing, it seemed that his shirts really didn't add up to anything.

AHWHAT?????????????????????

[ZONEACE]

No. I took out jediknight. I was not sure what he really was doing, it seemed that his shirts really didn't add up to anything.

Why did you not kill Zoneace. Jedi was actually confirmed.

cause killing me was not the right play, and it still isn't. But im glad you seem to think i need to die in every game we're in.

[ZONEACE]

listen I'm not saying killing jedi was ok, im saying, killing me would have been the wrong move. ssf, DEF needs to die before me. and like i said. I'm a vote for the town until our targets align, then I'm gone, and you guys can forget about me.

[ZONEACE]

I can prove to you I am who I am. Why lynch a povable role? I mean, honestly, we lynch who I'm supposed to lynch and I leave the game. If after we lynch who I'm supposed to lynch I'm still here, then by all means KILL ME, but my role is provable and its silly to waste a lynch or an NK on me when allowing me to fulfill my goal will get me out of the way.

[ZONEACE]

Lynching me or NKing me is a WASTE. I am not in the way, I am willing to go along with the towns wishes. when the 2 are copesetic i leave the game, without having had you guys waste a lynch or waste an NK on me. Seriously, this isn't that hard to understand.

[ZONEACE]

my targets are likely to be whoever my targets are. MoS says they're random, so they could be anybody. but you can continue to be a jackass if you so desire.

[ZONEACE]

OH and I know what game you're talking about and it actually just adds to my meta to prove I'm town now. And if you're gonna try and use it against me, i'm gonna defend myself. Screw referencing on going games. If you can use an on going game against me i can defend myself against it. I freak out when I'm underattack for no reason. I was underattack then for no reason other than I was the only person left in a known group. It was pissing me off that I was gonna be lynched not because I had screwed up and exposed myself as scum, but because of how the game was set up and the roles were revealed left me as the only possible target. There were people that looked scummier than me that were not lynched because the games set up left me exposed.

if this gets me modkilled then i'll be pissed cause I've spoken about the entire situation in generalities and never mentioned what game it was nor any specifics of the game that couldn't be found out by reading the game.

[ZONEACE]

OH and I know what game you're talking about and it actually just adds to my meta to prove I'm town now. And if you're gonna try and use it against me, i'm gonna defend myself. Screw referencing on going games. If you can use an on going game against me i can defend myself against it. I freak out when I'm underattack for no reason. I was underattack then for no reason other than I was the only person left in a known group. It was pissing me off that I was gonna be lynched not because I had screwed up and exposed myself as scum, but because of how the game was set up and the roles were revealed left me as the only possible target. There were people that looked scummier than me that were not lynched because the games set up left me exposed.

if this gets me modkilled then i'll be pissed cause I've spoken about the entire situation in generalities and never mentioned what game it was nor any specifics of the game that couldn't be found out by reading the game.

this is in the wrong game. Its meant to be in Freelancer, please ignore it ill copy paste it there.

[ZONEACE]

yeah i already noted it that in my last post, the one before yours. and now posted it in the right game. Im sure you'll find some way to use my posting it in the wrong game against me armlx, i have faith.

[ZONEACE]

Not because we can't prove that your role is real, but because proving if the role is real requires either wasting a lynch, or wasting time. Claims that lead to wasting time or lynches = good scum fake claims, ie I am suspicious of them and do not trust them.

No, proving my role does not require wasting a lynch, I've said I will forego my attempts at my target til it lines up with the towns. ANd how is gaining a guaranteed vote in your favor a waste of time. If we get to a point where we've stopped having NKs then we can lynch my target and both the town and me win.

[ZONEACE]

1, as soon as I lynch my target, I win and leave the game.

[ZONEACE]

when there are people besides the claimed neutrals that pose a greater threat, then yes i can admit i don't realize killing cliamed neutrals is the correct play.