Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[Nocmen]

You may not have JDodge, but Twomz did.

[ZONEACE]

ok i went back and read the first few pages and found that if Nocmen's PR is that his name must be said before he can post liek normal that he has violated it on at least 2 occassions just in the first few pages. Also, if that isn't his PR then whoever confirmed knowing about the PR (dont remember which player did that) is aligned with and in communication with Nocmen.

[Sir Tornado]

... If you are going to have a conversation with Nocmen, at least say his name in your post >.> geez.

HELLO DIMWIT

I DIDN'T SAY NOCMEN IN ONE OF MY POSTS AFTER HIS

HE POSTED JUST FINE

MORE NOCMEN VOTES NOW

[quote="Twomz in 606"
Yes Nocmen?

And I am back from holiday's... I will be busy with finals for the next 3 weeks or so but I will still be posting, just hope I get enough of a stretch of time to accomplish something >.> [/quote]

Twomz did.

[JDodge]

ok i went back and read the first few pages and found that if Nocmen's PR is that his name must be said before he can post liek normal that he has violated it on at least 2 occassions just in the first few pages. Also, if that isn't his PR then whoever confirmed knowing about the PR (dont remember which player did that) is aligned with and in communication with Nocmen.

Because Twomz is scum with Nocmen.

Now we're thinking with our brains!

[JDodge]

... If you are going to have a conversation with Nocmen, at least say his name in your post >.> geez.

HELLO DIMWIT

I DIDN'T SAY NOCMEN IN ONE OF MY POSTS AFTER HIS

HE POSTED JUST FINE

MORE NOCMEN VOTES NOW

Yes Nocmen?

And I am back from holiday's... I will be busy with finals for the next 3 weeks or so but I will still be posting, just hope I get enough of a stretch of time to accomplish something >.>

Twomz did.

AFTER WE PROVED THAT IT HAD TO BE THE POST DIRECTLY AFTER

[ZONEACE]

ok jdodge i never saw where we "proved it had to be posted right after" but regardless he's posted before without having his name said

[FaerieLord]

So....why is your vote not on nemcon?

[ZONEACE]

because im acknowledging the fact that there might be other triggers.

[Sir Tornado]

Or he could have made mistakes in implementing the PR?

[ZONEACE]

post 24 Aimee says his name

Post 26 he posts regular.

post 29 he posts again regular with no name in 27 or 28 (he was quoted in 27 but quoting failed to trigger the page before)

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Post 68. Meeps

post 73 Regular

69-72 NO use of the name.

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162 Post regular

165 Mneme says name

167 Meeps.

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there we are.

[JDodge]

Or he could have made mistakes in implementing the PR?

he would've been modkilled by now

[mneme]

Well, let's see:

p1:

3 meeps posts from nocmen. Quoting him apparenlty doesn't count.

schiz mentions his name.
aimee mentions his name.

p2:

nocmen talks normally.
nocmen talks normally

fl sez nocmen x2
twomz sez nocmen
I say nocmen
(battlemage -may- say nocmen -- a screwed up vote with semicolons instead of colons)

nocmen talks normally
nocmen talks normally
nocmen talks normally

p3:

nocmen talks normally
I say nocmen
nocmen meeps
nocmen talks normally

p4:

nocmen talks normally
thyroid says nocmen x2

p5:

nocmen talks normally
bamboo mentions nocmen x2
stark mentions nocmen
nocmen talks normally
nocmen meeps
avalon mentions nocmen
nocmen talks normally
tornado mentions nocmen
schitz mentions nocmen
nocmen talks normally.

Looking at every incidence of someone mentioning nocmen -not- in a vote and not as part of a quote tag (either &#005b;quote="Nocmen"] or as the body of the tag), it does look like nocmen has obeyed the post restriction "must not post normally more often than your name is mentioned".

If Twomz were to turn out to be scum, I'd be a bit more suspicous, natch.

[JDodge]

Looking at every incidence of someone mentioning nocmen -not- in a vote and not as part of a quote tag (either &#005b;quote="Nocmen"] or as the body of the tag),

it does look like nocmen has obeyed the post restriction "must not post normally more often than your name is mentioned".

If Twomz were to turn out to be scum, I'd be a bit more suspicous, natch.

Nocmen, Twomz and mneme are scum, see the part i bloded

[UltimaAvalon]

The only thing I've seen proven so far is how -un-helpful speculation is. How about we try and catch scum instead of guessing how the mod twisted our submitted roles?

That being said, I can get behind a Schis or Twomz lynch

[FaerieLord]

UA, there is no fucking way his role is not being faked. So yes, we are catching scum

[mneme]

FL: sure there is. We don't know what his restriction is. And linking this early to twomz would be just dumb. Can you say "witch hunt?" Sure, you can!

Oddly enough, not everyone who agrees with you is always scum -- and scum are usually smart enough not to obviously link too early. Which is why, while I'm pretty certain there are scum among those attacking Nocmen and Thesp -- -even if they're scum- -- I doubt -all- of those attacking them are scum.

My guess is that Nocmen's role is as presented -- even if it's been switched to scum or mucked with in other ways.

[JDodge]

FL: sure there is. We don't know what his restriction is. And linking this early to twomz would be just dumb. Can you say "witch hunt?" Sure, you can!

Oddly enough, not everyone who agrees with you is always scum -- and scum are usually smart enough not to obviously link too early. Which is why, while I'm pretty certain there are scum among those attacking Nocmen and Thesp -- -even if they're scum- -- I doubt -all- of those attacking them are scum.

My guess is that Nocmen's role is as presented -- even if it's been switched to scum or mucked with in other ways.

There are so many blatant scumtells in this post that it would be a waste of my time and yours to point them all out

[mneme]

JDodge: oddly enough, I'd rather go after real scum than people with public roles or those trying to hunt scum. Tough.

[Twomz]

First off... Modkill? I doubt it, more likely it is a "if you do X during the day, at night you can do Y" thing. Also, if you think that I am trying to ALLOW SOMEONE TO CONTRIBUTE because I am his scum buddy... then you need to start trying harder.

Second... oh please... it is day one and people are already saying "well, if X and Y are scum, of course Z must be scum too!" ...give me a break. If you have to say that another player is scum for your suspect to be scum, but can't give a reason for the other player to be scum, then you shouldn't try to base your case off of it /sigh.

[JDodge]

First off... Modkill? I doubt it, more likely it is a "if you do X during the day, at night you can do Y" thing. Also, if you think that I am trying to ALLOW SOMEONE TO CONTRIBUTE because I am his scum buddy... then you need to start trying harder.

Second... oh please... it is day one and people are already saying "well, if X and Y are scum, of course Z must be scum too!" ...give me a break. If you have to say that another player is scum for your suspect to be scum, but can't give a reason for the other player to be scum, then you shouldn't try to base your case off of it /sigh.

Why so defensive all of a sudden?

I've noticed that you can be

incredibly distinctly

connected to Nocmen, and that mneme seems to have more info than he should. Nocmen has been

proven to be lying

. Thus I assume he is scum. Thus I assume you and mneme are scum.

What day it is has no bearing whatsoever.

[UltimaAvalon]

UA, there is no fucking way his role is not being faked. So yes, we are catching scum

Give me cold, hard, definitive proof that his role is 100% fake. Anything else is just speculation.

[mneme]

I've noticed that you can be

incredibly distinctly

connected to Nocmen, and that mneme seems to have more info than he should. Nocmen has been

proven to be lying

.

*laugh*

"more info than he should"? It's called inductive logic, JDodge. You should try learning it sometime; it's a useful skill. Perhaps you should pick up the game Zendo -- it's a very cool game (and oddly enough, one I don't suck at). All I did was pull out nocmen's posts and those that mentioned him (actually, I just text-searched though the first five pages for "nocmen" -- it's not hard) and tried to find a pattern that would fit the role as it's so far been hinted at. Note, hinted at, not told:

Nocmen has

never told us how his role works

as far as I remember. He's hinted at a few things, and Twomz has told us some things about the role he submitted (which may not be exactly what Nocmen has -- and Twomz could be lying, of course). And people have made deductions based on what has been said about Nocmen's role -- but he's -never- come out and said how it works. Perhaps he doesn't want to. Perhaps he's restricted from doing so. Perhaps he's making it up as he goes along.

we don't know

.

[Twomz]

I've noticed that you can be

incredibly distinctly

connected to Nocmen, and that mneme seems to have more info than he should. Nocmen has been

proven to be lying

.

*laugh*

"more info than he should"? It's called inductive logic, JDodge. You should try learning it sometime; it's a useful skill. Perhaps you should pick up the game Zendo -- it's a very cool game (and oddly enough, one I don't suck at). All I did was pull out nocmen's posts and those that mentioned him (actually, I just text-searched though the first five pages for "nocmen" -- it's not hard) and tried to find a pattern that would fit the role as it's so far been hinted at. Note, hinted at, not told:

Nocmen has

never told us how his role works

as far as I remember. He's hinted at a few things, and Twomz has told us some things about the role he submitted (which may not be exactly what Nocmen has -- and Twomz could be lying, of course). And people have made deductions based on what has been said about Nocmen's role -- but he's -never- come out and said how it works. Perhaps he doesn't want to. Perhaps he's restricted from doing so. Perhaps he's making it up as he goes along.

we don't know

.

Jedi submitted the role, not I. I have merely speculated on what information is available.

And yes, there is a difference between Day 1 and endgame.

[mneme]

Twomz: I stand corrected. What then is the connection people are drawing between you and Nocmen, then? If anything, it's jedi who submitted the appropriate role, and him they should be claiming is linked to Nocmen's role (since, after all, if Nocmen is faking his post restriction, -jedi- is lying).

[Thyroidectomy]

Jdodge- You are not catching three scum on day one. Please sharpen your focus, or better, explain to us why Nocmen needs to die

today

, instead of a more informative lynch.