Prophecy Mafia - Over

[Oman]

Vote Bubka

ASSHAT OUNITEETH!

[Oman]

We need 11 people so we can quicklynch every game. [/joke]btw

[Oman]

Vote: Bubka

Bandwagon to victory team asshat!

He didn't start nuffin.

Thems fightin' words.

[Oman]

MAGIKARP I CHOOSE YOU!

[Oman]

magicarp is evivelant to shooting self. Charizard kills me, I RAF him back.

[Oman]

EBWOP: that should be equivilant.

I hate my fingers.

[Oman]

LAZY LUURRRRRVVVVVS MUDKIPS.

The asshat wagon needs to shift.

Unvote Vote Lazy

For attacking an asshat but more for your LIEK of MUDKIPS

[Oman]

I DENY YOU!

[Oman]

'Casue UA, Lazy is a mudkip lover, and that = scum in this game!

[Oman]

Scum trying to distract the town. All the pro-town players have a pokemon based role PM! [/joke]

Got ya scum!

[Oman]

<3 Stark for his defence of the

good

pokemon.

[Oman]

Sorry, unavaliable next 48hrs, Australian weekend. sorry

[Oman]

Okay I'm back, posting tonight.

[Oman]

Just to clear things up:

and "Team Asshat" treating this game like a scumchat game.

Yeah, but as soon as the game gets serious we're gonna be into this game normally with like...voting for scum (not that Lazy isn't scum of course) and stuff.

We're merely having fun in a day start game with no info. You got a better idea than a crazy 7 person bandwagon (kudos to anyone who says an 8 person bandwagon).

[Oman]

Unvote vote Kanga

Another bandwagon

BTW, yes I am hopping one wagon to the other, but in a large game, I believe this many votes to be safe easily.

[Oman]

This game will not be broken by a massclaim D1. They're designed like that.

[Oman]

2-4 townie lynches and I'd be pro-massclaim, but not right now...definatly not right now.

[Oman]

Weeeeeeell, Kakeng is scum, even supporting a massclaim after everyone said why they were DOUBLE PLUS UNGOOD!

[Oman]

I deny this Flameaxe wagon, just thought I'd make the comment.

This is not scum behaviour, he did not push for a massclaim, he stated the option.

[Oman]

@Flameaxe: Why are you so.....asshat-y?

Uhm...when am I not? I'm on the team for a specific reason, ya know.

QFT. Asshats aren't asshats by accident.

[Oman]

Lowell lurking is no big tell.

[Oman]

Lowell posting!?! NOW THATS A TELL! okay, thats a joke.

[Oman]

Unvote vote Bubka FoS: Lazy

WTF!?

[Oman]

Tar. Is. A. Goofball.

Seriously, I am almost voting you. But I think Bubka needs more so:

HOS: Kar

[Oman]

Ah an edit: Sorry Kar, the above

HOS

is actually to

Tarhalindur

Appologies.

I am interested too. You make it seem like you are blatantly wagoning him because you feel what he said was a scumtell.

[Oman]

Cause its scummy as hell.

[Oman]

DoS has teh poison scooby snacks!

[Oman]

Was that the mini Vollkan Vigged me D1 in?

[Oman]

How ironic.

[Oman]

I'd say about 5 more.

[Oman]

I never assume anything about UA.

he's a nutter.

[Oman]

I never assume anything about UA.

he's a nutter.

[Oman]

I accidently doubleposted 7minutes apart. How good is that.

[Oman]

56k with a 2GB download occuring.

Actually, I blew out my DL limit on supertroopers and DnD I'm a nerd.

[Oman]

Happy birthday Mert!

[Oman]

Goooo Australian timezones!

[Oman]

Zomg, pickem got his title.

[Oman]

Claiming Vig is blatantly provable and if he fake claimed Vig then he'd basically be making sure the scum kills are directed by the town until he gets lynched.

He'd be vigged instantly.

Probably the same for Survivor.

Why are you killing a hypothetical survivour? The count against the scum for 90% of it.

[Oman]

Mert, you policy lynching townies and survivours on claim disturbs me. You know that 80% of the town (I think thats the number) will claim townie.

Unvote Vote Mert

[Oman]

Yeah, but Lowell needed help

[Oman]

zzummm kk

Unvote Vote Bubka

I reread Mert's stuff and its not even relevant now. I'll deal with his dumbarse claiming ideas later.

[Oman]

Unvote Vote Bubka

Just to make JD think its a lynch again.

[Oman]

I demand everyone spells it profesy at least once. Just to dominate the world.

[Oman]

Lowell, you're hardly the one to get into someone for lurking.

[Oman]

DO IT IF YOU WANT TO!

I'm sick of people asking for town approval. Hammer if you think he is scum.

[Oman]

Isn't this an Open setup?

Unvote

I believe the claim too.

[Oman]

Vote Mert

Back to not liking your claim policy-lynching.

[Oman]

I'm very interested to hear why you think a Survivor claim would make you want to keep him around longer.

Its not the Survivor that gets me, its the townie lynching policy.

You said: He claims townie, we kill him (paraphrased). Which means that by your rules 80% of the town will be policy lynched.

[Oman]

So your Policy lynch of claimed vanillia was contextually refering to Bubka and Bubka only?

I'm saying if Bubka had claimed townie I would have happily continued to vote for him, but I will not lynch just anyone that claims townie. If their behaviour fits townie, then I would consider it carefully.

[Oman]

Mert, I appolgise, I took it the wrong way and as such

Unvote

I guess the flipside to your question is why would you allow someone to be forced into a claim or die situation if "their behaviour fits Townie"?

I definatly see your point. I think I approached this from the wrong angle.

If someone is really really scummy, a townie claim will not save them (that being said, it must still be considered). 80% of the town would therefore look scummy upon a claim, BUT 80% of the town should not HAVE to claim, for that reason.

[Oman]

JOY, WE ARE SO GLAD YOU ARE BEING SO FUCKING HELPFUL. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO MAKE SMALL CASES ON PEOPLE BEING A -BIT- SUSPICIOUS! EVERYONE QUICK!

Srsly?

Also,

Vote Kanaga

Now you're a big suspect.

[Oman]

I was thinking the same thing.

I'd feel famous

I need to make one of those with "Asshat" instead.

[Oman]

What program do you use to make it. I've never done it before.

[Oman]

I'm totally unschooled in flash.

[Oman]

Awesomesauce. I would totally use all our avatars with "Asshat" stamped.

[Oman]

OH NOES!

[Oman]

I'm Australian.

Shouting at people over the internet doesn't make you cooler.

STOP WORKING ON IT, START FUCKING MAKING SUSPICIONS, right

Irony.

Anyway:

Whats the appeal of American football? Half the team watches. Oh and you better be working on my avatar.

[Oman]

Oh reality T.V.

Did you hear about the african Lady who was sexually assulted on African Big Brother...lets do that in Mish Mash.

[Oman]

I could make it JPG...I guess.

[Oman]

ZOMG...I was not informed this was intentional!

[Oman]

Awesome.

Wait this isn't "Hijak this thread"?

[Oman]

How much is excessive?

[Oman]

No BBM, that makes the void, just claim the ones that have already nullified themselves (i.e. the first day will no be deadlined, or Oman self-votes or something) (NOTE: Not my predictions)

[Oman]

I can't believe it IS butter

Vote: Butter-Substitute

[Oman]

Now I want to

Unvote Vote Mert

This time because DGB threatened that anyone to not vote flameaxe is scummy and mert DID!

[Oman]

unvote vote Lowell

Just joining a wagon myself.

No, I'm kidding, the wagon on BBM is big, don't add to it just cause you want to be one of the cool kids.

[Oman]

Unvote Vote FaerieLord

One line, 24 pages. This does not = town at all.

[Oman]

Foolinc, no...just...just no.

This is not any of those situations.

[Oman]

Pity you don't like my playstyle DG and Lowell. I'm not going to change it for you.

Besides, one can always read the posts and the content in them. Content > Votes

Problem is...there isn't much of either really.

Keffed.

[Oman]

Frequently is fine, but your posts are still horrid. How about doing a PBPA on a player, or at least a list on who you think is most scummy (3-6 players on the list)?

[Oman]

That looks awesome DGB, a nice form. Although if you take into account my vote-happy, bandwagon D1 playstyle....

[Oman]

If Faerielord isn't following DGB around I'll eat my divine focus item.

DGB, I suggest you meta some of my completed games, or at least, ask CKD and others who played with me about my playstyle D1.

[Oman]

Unvote Vote Tar

That WIFOM leads me to believe you're scum.

[Oman]

SeraphicMirth is horrible at mafia.

I kid.

Or do I?

Read it yourself or don't bother being here Gorrad, I expect your thoughts on the game too.

[Oman]

Vote Phate

What a stupid thing to do.

[Oman]

Oh, and to speculate as hard as I can:

Kanaga was a pro-town vig kill (burned at the stake etc)

Seraphic was a mafia kill (pentegrams etc.)

[Oman]

/agree DGB

[Oman]

NO, NO, NO! This is not good mafia. You cannot vote BBM based solely on a Dice Roll vote D2. He's done 1 bad vote there, and you're all on it.

Unvote Phate

Hypocricy sucks.

Back to yesterday's thoughts Kekeng got my interest.

Vote Kakeng

Oh wait. He's been replaced.

Unvote Vote Phate

LIFE IS GOOD!

[Oman]

Neither of the dice rolls benefit scum. I would like to hear how they would, Phate.

[Oman]

You voted him, thus you believe him to be scum.

[Oman]

WABAC backwards it CABAW

[Oman]

[Oman]

Unvote Vote Faerielord

[Oman]

No, and its not worth considering.

[Oman]

Based on last nights actions I believe I know who the Pro-town vigilantee is.

[Oman]

COnfirm Vote Faerielord

Its quite silly, she lurks the first day and then wagons L-3 the second.

Quite obvobv to me.

[Oman]

@Oman. 1st it's he. Second, I wasn't even hear first day. I replaced day 2. Third of all, I was the one that started the tarh, so I find it iffing that you are saying that I am bandwagoning.

Don't you think?

1st, Sorry, my mistake.
2nd, I thought you were, was it this game someone did that or a different one (I must reread when I get time).
3rd, So why are you the seventh vote if you "started" it. It seems like you tried to get a wagon going but wanted to see if the town built it up first.

[Oman]

The following are stupid: Fearielord. That is all.

[Oman]

I don't get it.

[Oman]

FL lynch is the way to go!

[Oman]

Porochaz is right. (Duck Power!)

[Oman]

I'm yet to see a convincing Tar argument other than "He seems to be the lynch for today."

[Oman]

You're right.




Not Flameaxe.


Axes cut, and flames burn.

[Oman]

Was that a horrible attempt at claiming you're a miller or insinuating you're a cop with a guilty on flameaxe?

[Oman]

Faerielord was/is a better lynch.

[Oman]

Summarize it yourself kthx

[Oman]

Guys, PMs, please.

[Oman]

Faerielord is the lynch.

Please assist Skruffs.

[Oman]

Faerielord is the lynch.

Please assist, Skruffs.

[Oman]

Posticle.

[Oman]

?

Vote Xpom Telo

[Oman]

Hearting my current wagon.

[Oman]

Okay, Faerielord's first three posts are examples of active lurking. Promising contribution, but not actually delivering any. He later comments on CKD fence-sitting, but doesn't vote him... he provides NO content, while hiding behind a "playstyle" excuse. It's one thing to have an unhelpful playstyle, but he doesn't even vote...

He FINALLY looks at the game, and does some pretty shoddy vote analysis. Completely reverses his opinion on CKD, criticises UltimaAvalon, and puts FOS's on a lot of people. Admits to being lazy, admits to skipping large parts of the argument.

To me, this is probably the worst thing he says:

Do you really think I was playing the game? Jdodge asked me to replace, I said yes. I left it there to decay. Jdodge often asks me to replace, and I often do this :/

So Faerielord contributes next to nothing, apart from pushing the lynch on Tarhindalur (which I am not faulting him for, but which was a pretty easy wagon), and then Xpom comes in with the stated attitude that he shouldn't have to reread the game, and asking others to tell him what his opinions should be. When questioned about this, he reiterates his intention to stick to this plan, which looks to me like he's seeking guidance from his scumbuddies since he missed the nighttalk. (I could be wrong, but that's just such an unhelpful attitude, especially considering Faerielord's lack of useful contribution.)

Sorry for not posting more lately, but I've been extremely busy. I hope this was helpful in explaining my vote on Xpom.

THIS POST FUCKING WINS THE THREAD!

[Oman]

<3 CKD

[Oman]

Let's lynch Xpom now.

[Oman]

If this does not go to Xpom's lynch I will hate this game forever.

[Oman]

Vote Skruffs

You are scum.

So thats all the powerroles gone isn't it.

[Oman]

Nope, I'm on

This

bandwagon

Vote Lowell

.

Ironic aint it?

Oh and skruffs, your case is overpowering me, I cannot defend myself.

[Oman]

Seriously, though, starting off the day trolling for power roles?

I did?

[Oman]

I was saying that we've lost all our powerroles. Its an Open Setup anyone could have answered.

[Oman]

No, I wasn't. I was looking for anyone to respond to it.

I didn't bother to look at the first page. "Never suggest malice when sheer laziness will suffice"

[Oman]

Oman, do you agree that the way you worded your question (and your laziness in not looking this up for yourself) could have outed the vig quite easily and that if someone else had done it, you'd have been suspicious of them for rolefishing?

Yes, I probably would've accused them, maybe. But like Skruffs, I prolly would've accepted their explaination.

Oh, and the only way it would out the vig is if he was EXTREEMLY incompitent.

[Oman]

Does it matter if he's incompetent, given that he's the last surviving power role we have?

YES. If he's incompetent (and this WILL get me some hate) he's gonna kill townies, and then, why the fuck would I want him to NOT get NKed.

[Oman]

Eventually the vig is going to hit mafia, if only because that will be all that is left.

Are you fucking stupid? This makes no sense. The only way this could possibly work is a scum:vig endgame which would be a draw/town loss depending on the mod.

13 players:

1 vig,

5 Townies,

1 survivour

5 scum (I'm grouping them as one for this, powers don't matter)

Your "hypothesis" that "Eventually the vig is going to hit mafia, if only because that will be all that is left." Can be proven false simply by saying that:

At any time that the vig's targets include ONLY scum, the game has already been lost, and therefore the situation does not actually occur and is a mathematical artifact ONLY.

That is, Skruffs: When vig's possible targets (i.e. # living players - 1) = # of scum, your hypothesis holds true.

BUT

When # scum = or > # town, the scum wins.

The first scenario cannot exist without the first taking place (except in afformentioned "vig:scum" endgame).

and lynching a stupid power role over scum?

he's gonna kill townies, and then, why the fuck would

I want him to NOT get NKed

.

I was talking about outing powerroles for Night Kills, nobody discussed lynching.

You fail in every way possible there Skruffs, absoloutly utterly fail.

You're accusing me of saying things I never did. You're using horrible, HORRIBLE words to try to show me how even the worst vig would win against scum.

Well done, on the dumbest fucking post since ChronX left.

[Oman]

Please Modkill Lowell for faking a quoted rolepm. It is against the rules.

Vote Skruffs

[Oman]

unvote, vote sykedoc

. That's just too stupid.

Unvote Vote Lowell

You are terrible beyond belief, please die.

[Oman]

Why is that Bookitty?

[Oman]

Why this?

[Oman]

Dammit!

I'm just glad I voted Lowell early before the rush.

THIS

[Oman]

Lowell sets off the scumdar having made two really...really bad votes. However, I'm not willing to risk a lylo on it.

Let me crunch these

1 Mafia GF
1 Mafia Doc
3 Mafia Goons

1 Jailkeeper
1 Cop
1 Super-backup

1 Vig
1 Miller

1 Survivor

10 Townies

3 Townies

5 Town
5 Mafia
1 Survivor

If we lynch town:

4 Town
4 mafia
1 survivor

IF vig hits scum and scum NKs survivor:
4 Town
3 Mafia
0 Survivor


TECHNICALLY: we can get out of a Lylo today, but I'm not risking our lives on a survivor getting shot like that.

I am considering masclaim to lower our potential pool for shooting and voting. For? Against? Comments either way?

Basically: Lynching survivor now means we can only win if vig kills scum and scum NKs town

Lynching town now means we can only just if vig kills scum and scum NKs survivor (same net eqn. as above).

So basically....lets hunt some scum.

I don't like skruffs for some of his stuff said yesterday (or the day before). I'd have to go back through it to find it.

[Oman]

BAH!

If we lynch town:

4 Town
4 mafia

5 Mafia

1 survivor

IF vig hits scum and scum NKs survivor:
4 Town
3 Mafia

4 Mafia

0 Survivor


TECHNICALLY: we can get out of a Lylo today, but I'm not risking our lives on a survivor getting shot like that.

Even in the best case scenario (scum NKs Survivor and vig NKs town) a mislynch will lose us the game...sorry JD

[Oman]

Great...well in that case:

I'm a survivor (what?) not gonna give up (huh?) Cause I'm a survivor (Wha?) gonna keep on surviving (yeah!)

I have not sided with the scum or the town. Obviously the scum would win quicker, but I'm very interested in seeing the town crawl out of this hole.

Basically, I'll do anything, too anything. I'll hammer if it comes about, I'll even place the first vote if something bothers me.

Town: Lynching me is not your best option. If you do lynch me, you lose instantly, even if the vig hits scum. Even if you lynch scum, vig, its not the best idea to kill me, as that puts you at 4/4/0 in which case you lose anyway.

Scum: Why would you NK or try to lynch the guy that can give you majority if you give him the chance?

[Oman]

I'm pretty sure that the vig, if he knows that his side is automatically going to lose, is going to make sure that you also don't win

I'm pretty sure its this kind of childish revenge play that makes me unhappy to play mafia with you then. You gain nothing from ruining my win, so why would you?

Vote Skruffs

I've found you scummy, but now I just find you annoying and whiney.

[Oman]

You yourself have said you have done nothing to help the town; now, all of a sudden, you want town to help you, even while saying you don't care who wins?

I have not sided with the scum or the town.

Reading the thread it tech. I said I have not SIDED with them yet, that doesn't mean I haven't been actually scumhunting. Look at all my votes, at least I've been TRYING.

They would win by nking you as much as anyone else, plus there's the wifom of them thinking you are actually the vig fakeclaiming as survivor.

Meh, I'm sure any civil person would respect my work so far and not wish to ruin my fun just because they don't get their way.

If you were the survivor, would you counterclaim someone else's survivor claim? Why? Especially if you were willing to side with mafia?

I did, but then again (if I were fakeclaiming), I'm sure after the real survivor saw the maturity level in here, he'd probably keep his trap shut.

[Oman]

BS Lowell, we have a good chance of lynching scum. I'd vote scum. Like I said, I'd rather see the town pull themselves out of this hole then scum easily winning it.

RE: Me voting for everyone. I'd much rather vote fro somone I think is scum (i.e. Skruffs).

[Oman]

Skruffs: In my mind, killing me is not actually playing to the vig's win condition, as I am no threat to the town (in the pure sense). For that reason, what you are doing is incredibly childish and selfish.

There was an easy way out for the town, lynch scum instead of town the last 4 days. Don't forget, I have been more helpful than most townies, posting more frequently etc. So really, if you truly are the purist that you say you are, you should be asking the vig to kill the useless townies (who BTW: have a better chance of being scum then I do).

Not to mention, if the scum No-kills or something, a vig could save the game (granted its not likely, but i'm fairly sure that not doing it in that off chance would be rediculously stupid).

Skruffs, don'y be a dumb fuck about this, just because you're pissy. You have been one of the top posters. Really putting thoughts out there. But there are plenty who have not been as fantastic and your efforts to get me killed should really be directed at those who lurked the fuck out of this game.

So really, I may be a traitor to the town in a sense, but I'm much more loyal then those other guys you have with you.

Unvote

No matter how wrong you are, i think you're town.

[Oman]

< = Doesn't blame you.

[Oman]

Note: Oman would very likely vote the vig, knowing the mafia could join with him, for an automatic win with mafia.

Nope, because I respect the vig for being hidden for so long. I think he's done well, as I can't pick it (not that I've really been looking I guess).

I respect the work he/she has done and would like to see them continue living (though that will probably end in my death).

[Oman]

THe assumption isn't worth possibly losing the game over.

My assumption is that he is scum, his flake out has no bearing on that.

Why are you not voting for him then?

I'm trying to scumhunt still, more out of game and interest than anyhting.

[Oman]

I want my last comment stricken, CKD votes after that vote count.

Sorry!

[Oman]

Would it be better to just lynch Ooman today and hope the vig gets lucky tonight?

Nooooo Totally not scummy here.

Dude, the vig has hit town every night, you really think they're gonna get lucky now?

[Oman]

(Also, Oman - you shouldn't bait the vig. I did it in Pirates vs Ninjas and it didn't work. And the vig KNOWS you aren't pro-twon, so, you just gave him a way to beat that solution.)

I'm not taunting him. Mini 500 Cult mafia I was the vig and hit town every night. And I certainly didn't trust myself to get lucky at any stage.

Crunch the numbers, viging me is not the optimal play in any case.

[Oman]

unvote vote dizzy

yus out the powerrole that could potentially save the town. Go team!

[Oman]

The reason we need to vig alive is at the moment we are in perpetual LyLo. Only the vig can get us out.

[Oman]

Keep the

[Oman]

Lowel has been doing it for ages. I think he's the lynch.

Vote Lowell

FTR I actually think this guy is scum, not trying to get a townie quicklynched.

[Oman]

Oh I forgot about dizzy, damn.

Unvote Vote Dizzy

Next is Lowell.

[Oman]

I'm voting dizzy cuase he's scum.

[Oman]

Nope. IF the mafia kills me, and the vig kills mafia, its Lylo. Since there is still the option that the mafia can select the survivour and the vig could select so as to kill mafia, there is no endgame tonight.

[Oman]

can we just lynch Izzyscum now?

Seriously. I believe with all of my heart that izzy is scum (which begs the question, from skruffs I'm sure, why am I on the wagon)

[Oman]

I don't like the fact that when CKD unvoted Dizzy unvoted too. Seems really OMGUS.

[Oman]

Skruffs. I;m not really sure about CKD.

Dizzy is scum, however.

[Oman]

vig needs to kill diz tonight

Why not lynch Diz?

[Oman]

I'm a sucker for WIFOM, but I actually believe 1519 is Diz being confused, not Diz pretending to be confused. So she's not the lynch today.

unvote, vote ultimaavalon

. Did we try this already? In isolation his posts look terrible, and he's showing up just enough to not get replaced. In a game like this (aka townies eating each other like idiots) that seems awfully scummy to me.

Oh dear god you are scum.

[Oman]

50% of this games needs a replacement, and the mod hasnt posted here in over 2 weeks....how much does that burn your ass Skruffs that you and scum was so close to getting a perfect win?

Agree with this.

Sure CKD's post was suggestively bad, but Lowell's was so terrible it redeemed CKD's and at the same time, destoryed his so much that I actually will bomb his house at one stage.

[Oman]

Oman, my statement wasnt true?

I dislike the mix of "Gmae theory/replacements." and "Watch me play mafia and lynch people".

I prefer to keep ((OOC)) and In character seperate.

[Oman]

I don't really know about skruffs, i fluctuate town/scum on him. But, in all seriousness, CKD, I really don't care about him. We need to lynch izzy or Lowell today.

[Oman]

How vaugely?

[Oman]

No skruffs, I take it as contextual. I was the only one questioning his comment about you.

[Oman]

If we lynch town the vig has to kill.

[Oman]

Lowell and dizzy are scum skruffs, so your rescinding of command, whilst interesting and good hearted, doesn't seem to be usefull.

I'm happy to lynch either lowell or dizzy.

Unvote Vote Lowell

[Oman]

Why is that? I thought you wanted the vig to kill me?

[Oman]

WHAT THE FUCK FLAMEAXE!?!

[Oman]

:D:D:D:D

I said it to Skruffs and I meant it.

Childish temper tantrum.