Prophecy Mafia - Over

[Kanaga]

I also like Mert's posting. Good replacements. This is a bit weird though:

UltimaAvalon [4] wrote:
Oh wait, I lied Vote: xyzzy cus he's just gonna mad lurk all game anyway.

Weird first post. This looks like it could be saying "Xyzzy never picked up his night-talk PMs, so I'm mad", though since this is the first post of the game I'm taking it completely in a vacuum. I certainly pick up a hint of something, but I'll park it for now and see if anything else comes up that indicates similar.

Considering, you know, xyzzy just got replaced, I don't think this is a good point. It seems kind of paranoid, and I bet xyzzy has a reputation for lurking.

[Kakeng]

I'm getting really irritated with bubka as he has been posting, just not this thread.

It feels like he is avoiding this thread(probably because we're onto him)

So Major Fos: Bubka

[Mert]

Third and final "catching up" post of death:

So apparently MoS noticed I didn't self-vote, decided to do that "View only UA's posts" thing, then commented on why every single one of them was scummy without even reading them in context. So my defense of the whole post will be two lines.

1) I'm not going to give people free Prophecy points

2) Context

Also, Lazy is scum. Also, I can't remember if I'm even voting him or not. So

Unvote Vote: Lazy

You can consider it a confirm vote too, if you swing that way

Weak defense followed by obvious deflection.

This defense is a pure case of

non sequitur

, once again showing that UltimaAvalon can only use fallacious "reasoning", so to speak.

Emphatically this.

Is this in response to me? I didn't even say anything about UltimaAvalon's "reason", so to speak, for voting Lazy. I was speaking purely of his actions vis-a-vis defense of himself, per se.

Gah, he said vis-a-vis again!

That looks like a scum excuse to me.

You said before that you had a reason for playing like this. I really think you need to share that soon because to us lay people it just looks like bad play.

DoS: Define "Complain" for me, please, so I may inform you why you're retarded

There's playing aggressively and then there's using blatantly silly or insulting posts to deflect attention from the fact that you don't really have an answer. I fear this is the latter.

@MoS: Well, if you're just going to sit there, speaking latin, MSU, and let your scumbuddy DoS do your attacking for you, I'll sit here here and ignore you, k?

Same again. You can't just shout at somebody until they stop suspecting you if you give them no other reason to stop. It looks like that's what you're doing here though.

You know that not sharing information is generally not a townie thing to do, right?

Not necessarily. Sometimes it is useful to hold your thoughts back temporarily if you feel the reactions to you doing so will be of more value to the town. I agree with you in the main, however.

need... more... pressure applicaiton...

vote: bubka

So that's where the Bubka wagon began. Worth noting for later.

Why hasn't bubka been lynched yet?

Because you're not voting for him, along with a bunch of other people? Seems pretty obvious to me. *Shrug*.

Do you realize that you aren't even voting Bubka? We should work on changing that, because he does, in fact, need more votes as of now.

Why does he? Because he hasn't posted much and needs pressure? I'm not sure I'm buying this wagon at this point in time.

Are you sure its a good idea to lynch him this early? We still have 2 weeks to discuss.

:goodposting:


This wagon grew very rapidly with no real content posts from any of the people on it. This worries me and I will certainly be looking into this in greater depth tomorrow.

I like kakeng's post. He's town.

Inclined to agree at this point.

Tar is correct, Bubka's last post here was 10/19, he has posted on this site a ton since then...I think he is trying to lay low to avoid suspicion..

Finally an actual reason to suspect him. It's still about lurking but this time at least it's with evidence of him actively avoiding this game.




And that about brings me up to where I entered the game. Phew.

Some conclusions then:

MoS, Kakeng and CKD strike me as most town at the moment.

UA and Tarhalindur strike me as least likely town at the moment.

I feel we heard a criminally small amount from CTD since he replaced, Lowell (obv), FaerieLord and Stark during today and I'll be expecting far more contribution to the town's objectives over the coming days.

I'm kinda "meh" about lynching Bubka although I agree that with the deadline it's probably the best play. I would ideally like to see a claim from him prior to deadline, but I'm not even certain he's going to post here again at this point.

I have this gut feeling that he's town but the reason that I still think he is the best play here is because of the rapidness and reaction to his bandwagon. I am certain there is at least one scum on that list of early adopters and I think that knowing his alignment will provide opportunity for some juicy analysis tomorrow.

Any questions on what I've written or anything you feel I haven't covered then you know where I am

[Oman]

Claiming Vig is blatantly provable and if he fake claimed Vig then he'd basically be making sure the scum kills are directed by the town until he gets lynched.

He'd be vigged instantly.

Probably the same for Survivor.

Why are you killing a hypothetical survivour? The count against the scum for 90% of it.

[Mert]

I'm not saying we hunt down and kill the Survivor, I'm saying that if he claims Survivor then there's no reason not to still lynch him as though he'd claimed Townie.

[foolinc]

I have this gut feeling that he's town but the reason that I still think he is the best play here is because of the rapidness and reaction to his bandwagon. I am certain there is at least one scum on that list of early adopters and I think that knowing his alignment will provide opportunity for some juicy analysis tomorrow.

I think that Bubka is a bit scummier than you do, but I agree that hammering him will give us some information for day 2 and beyond.

[Oman]

Mert, you policy lynching townies and survivours on claim disturbs me. You know that 80% of the town (I think thats the number) will claim townie.

Unvote Vote Mert

[Lowell]

I have a good idea. Let's tell him exactly what he can claim to ensure his safety...

[foolinc]

I have a good idea. Let's tell him exactly what he can claim to ensure his safety...

It's an open setup. A trained monkey could see that townie was an easy claim.

[Oman]

Yeah, but Lowell needed help

[Flameaxe]

Bubka needs to die now, Oman. Get your vote there now, kthx.

[Oman]

zzummm kk

Unvote Vote Bubka

I reread Mert's stuff and its not even relevant now. I'll deal with his dumbarse claiming ideas later.

[JDodge]

Vote Count

:

bubka - 10 (Lowell, Tarhalindur, foolinc, Flameaxe, pickemgenius, DragonsofSummer, UltimaAvalon, Sir Tornado, DrippingGoofball, Oman)
UltimaAvalon - 2 (Mastermind of Sin, CrashTextDummie)
CrashTextDummie - 1 (Mert)
Kanaga - 1 (SeraphicMirth)
Tarhalindur - 1 (death_omen)

Not voting (6): bubka, FaerieLord, Kakeng, curiouskarmadog, stark, Kanaga

11 to lynch.

Prodding bubka.

[Oman]

Unvote Vote Bubka

Just to make JD think its a lynch again.

[JDodge]

OH LOOK A LYN-

i hate you

[curiouskarmadog]

I guess I can hammer...any objections?

want to wait till he is prodded again?

[DrippingGoofball]

Hammer already. He's not showing up here. He's given up. He's playing chess in the chess forum with mith. He's scum, he's been caught, he vanished.

[Tarhalindur]

========[] time.

Unfortunately, I'm already voting, so I can't do the honors.

[Oman]

I demand everyone spells it profesy at least once. Just to dominate the world.

[Lowell]

Hammer already. He's not showing up here. He's given up. He's playing chess in the chess forum with mith. He's scum, he's been caught, he vanished.

I think this is right. It's not that uncommon for scum to get caught, then pretend to "forget" or whatever so as to save a little personal pride. Just end it.

[Oman]

Lowell, you're hardly the one to get into someone for lurking.

[Lowell]

Except he wasnt lurking. He was active, then disappeared. That's different than lurking (not that I condone lurking...). To me it's like a kid getting upset and taking his ball and going home.

Basically (to meta-meta-game) I feel like theres a bigger pride issue that goes on when one is scum and facing an early lynch than when one is town. A townie can blame the lynch on the badness of others (and being vindicated posthumously) whereas a scum has to deal with the smug town that caught him. So hence the disappearing.

[stark]

I can hammer, comrades, if that's the will of the people.

[Oman]

DO IT IF YOU WANT TO!

I'm sick of people asking for town approval. Hammer if you think he is scum.

[bubka]

No don't! I am just in time to stop the hammer.
The kid did go home taking the ball, but couldn't resist the urge to come out on the balcony.