Prophecy Mafia - Over

[Skruffs]

side note, Lowell, I have seen people modkilled for the exact samething.

orly?

[hasdgfas]

side note, Lowell, I have seen people modkilled for the exact samething.

Are you trying to get him modkilled? If so, you should have PMed the mod instead.

By the way I see nothing on page one that says this is an open game.

This is an open setup. All role PMs may be found here.

[Skruffs]

ummm... yeah, sorry farside, that kind of confirms it in my opinion...

Unvote, Vote: Farside22

If we hurry we may get this done in time.

[sykedoc]

unvote vote sykedoc

Wait. Oh! HA!

Unvote, Vote: sykedoc

Lowell, you're frikkin' brilliant. Sykedoc, Farside, and Hasdgfas, you're scum.

Would both of you mind explaining the votes you just cast on me rather than mindlessly voting for me?

Curious gave no explanation whatsoever, and Gorrad voted with some cryptic tagline akin to the way Lowell voted me earlier.

If you have a legit suspicion why didn't you FoS me? I dont think you have a legitimate suspicion because that vote was outright pointless.

[sykedoc]

Can someone explain to me why i'm getting bandwagoned with no explanation all of a sudden?

[JDodge]

End-of-Day Vote Count

:

sykedoc - 3 (curiouskarmadog, Gorrad, Lowell)
Gorrad - 2 (UltimaAvalon, sykedoc)
Lowell - 2 (Bookitty, Oman)
farside22 - 1 (Skruffs)

Not voting (5): stark, farside22, hasdgfas, Iammars, Flameaxe

Seven to lynch, four to lynch at deadline.

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Lo, and the fourth day was done; and unable were the poor, wise prophets to come to a popular decision. So night fell upon the Church; and the time was nigh for a battle to shake the ages.

It is now Night IV. Choices/Prophecies due April 3rd by 5:46 PM EDT (GMT-4).

[JDodge]

The bell tolled its solemn call over the town.

Flames arose to lick the night sky.

Someone was seen, burning Gorrad at the stake, screaming some such nonsense about witches and evil.

A scream arises from the Church - it's farside, brutally stabbed with that pentagram yet again.

Gorrad,

townie

, burned at the stake Night IV
farside22,

townie

, soul sent to eternal damnation Night IV

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It is now Day V. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. This is lylo.

[Oman]

Lowell sets off the scumdar having made two really...really bad votes. However, I'm not willing to risk a lylo on it.

Let me crunch these

1 Mafia GF
1 Mafia Doc
3 Mafia Goons

1 Jailkeeper
1 Cop
1 Super-backup

1 Vig
1 Miller

1 Survivor

10 Townies

3 Townies

5 Town
5 Mafia
1 Survivor

If we lynch town:

4 Town
4 mafia
1 survivor

IF vig hits scum and scum NKs survivor:
4 Town
3 Mafia
0 Survivor


TECHNICALLY: we can get out of a Lylo today, but I'm not risking our lives on a survivor getting shot like that.

I am considering masclaim to lower our potential pool for shooting and voting. For? Against? Comments either way?

Basically: Lynching survivor now means we can only win if vig kills scum and scum NKs town

Lynching town now means we can only just if vig kills scum and scum NKs survivor (same net eqn. as above).

So basically....lets hunt some scum.

I don't like skruffs for some of his stuff said yesterday (or the day before). I'd have to go back through it to find it.

[Oman]

BAH!

If we lynch town:

4 Town
4 mafia

5 Mafia

1 survivor

IF vig hits scum and scum NKs survivor:
4 Town
3 Mafia

4 Mafia

0 Survivor


TECHNICALLY: we can get out of a Lylo today, but I'm not risking our lives on a survivor getting shot like that.

Even in the best case scenario (scum NKs Survivor and vig NKs town) a mislynch will lose us the game...sorry JD

[Oman]

Great...well in that case:

I'm a survivor (what?) not gonna give up (huh?) Cause I'm a survivor (Wha?) gonna keep on surviving (yeah!)

I have not sided with the scum or the town. Obviously the scum would win quicker, but I'm very interested in seeing the town crawl out of this hole.

Basically, I'll do anything, too anything. I'll hammer if it comes about, I'll even place the first vote if something bothers me.

Town: Lynching me is not your best option. If you do lynch me, you lose instantly, even if the vig hits scum. Even if you lynch scum, vig, its not the best idea to kill me, as that puts you at 4/4/0 in which case you lose anyway.

Scum: Why would you NK or try to lynch the guy that can give you majority if you give him the chance?

[Skruffs]

Wow, Oman, and here I Thought you were the crappy vig.

If you turn against town and are involved in a mislynch, I'm pretty sure that the vig, if he knows that his side is automatically going to lose, is going to make sure that you also don't win. At least, I know I Would.

[Bookitty]

If you turn against town and are involved in a mislynch, I'm pretty sure that the vig, if he knows that his side is automatically going to lose, is going to make sure that you also don't win. At least, I know I Would.

QFT.

Though I'm really nervous, because I have a meta that says that when Skruffs seems really really pro-town to me, he's scum.

Doing a reread.

[Skruffs]

Since when???
Town players usually get scum-reads on me. It's only mafia that really say I am town.

Fos: Bookitty

[Skruffs]

And how does that seem protown at all?
If I was mafia, I'd want to direct the vig to hit the survivor, too, to ensure no chance of losing.

[Bookitty]

Since when???
Town players usually get scum-reads on me. It's only mafia that really say I am town.

Fos: Bookitty

Since Big Love, where I was convinced you were town and you ended up being scum?

Short memory...

[Oman]

I'm pretty sure that the vig, if he knows that his side is automatically going to lose, is going to make sure that you also don't win

I'm pretty sure its this kind of childish revenge play that makes me unhappy to play mafia with you then. You gain nothing from ruining my win, so why would you?

Vote Skruffs

I've found you scummy, but now I just find you annoying and whiney.

[Skruffs]

It's not childish revenge play, oman. You yourself have said you have done nothing to help the town; now, all of a sudden, you want town to help you, even while saying you don't care who wins?


I don't see how you think that being a survivor entitles you to win, at all, considering you have carefully been sabotaguing town the entire game.

I'm not the vig; so go ahead and keep voting me. If mafia piles on and quck lynches me, YOU LOSE..

[Skruffs]

Side note: I believe that's 3 people who have expressed suspicion of me, and nobody except me making suspicion of anyone else.

Ironically, oman, even if you are the survivor, why do you think the mafia will want to share a win with you? They would win by nking you as much as anyone else, plus there's the wifom of them thinking you are actually the vig fakeclaiming as survivor.

[hasdgfas]

there's the wifom of them thinking you are actually the vig fakeclaiming as survivor.

This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen. Why would the vig fakeclaim survivor? Wouldn't that just lead to a counterclaim and a lynch of the vig/survivor?

[Skruffs]

Agreed. What's your point? If you were the survivor, would you counterclaim someone else's survivor claim? Why? Especially if you were willing to side with mafia?

[Oman]

You yourself have said you have done nothing to help the town; now, all of a sudden, you want town to help you, even while saying you don't care who wins?

I have not sided with the scum or the town.

Reading the thread it tech. I said I have not SIDED with them yet, that doesn't mean I haven't been actually scumhunting. Look at all my votes, at least I've been TRYING.

They would win by nking you as much as anyone else, plus there's the wifom of them thinking you are actually the vig fakeclaiming as survivor.

Meh, I'm sure any civil person would respect my work so far and not wish to ruin my fun just because they don't get their way.

If you were the survivor, would you counterclaim someone else's survivor claim? Why? Especially if you were willing to side with mafia?

I did, but then again (if I were fakeclaiming), I'm sure after the real survivor saw the maturity level in here, he'd probably keep his trap shut.

[Lowell]

I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to do here.

Two things, non-parallel and not necessarily related:

1) I do NOT think we have a realistic chance of getting a majority on any scum at this point. If it's true that there are 5 scum left, we'll need literally everyone (including oman) to lynch one. Even with 4, we'll need all but one. Because of this, I'm tempted to just leave the game in Oman's hands (as dumb as that sounds). Let him pick someone he thinks is scum, and we agree to vote for that person.

2) On the other hand, obviously, I don't really get this claim. Someone tell me what I should do with this info (pretend that you're town when you answer). What I dont' get is why Oman wouldnt just cast a damn vote for... ANYONE... and be done with it, if his role is what he says it is. So there's that.

[Oman]

BS Lowell, we have a good chance of lynching scum. I'd vote scum. Like I said, I'd rather see the town pull themselves out of this hole then scum easily winning it.

RE: Me voting for everyone. I'd much rather vote fro somone I think is scum (i.e. Skruffs).

[Bookitty]

Okay. Here's the problem, as I see it.

The survivor is part of the uninformed majority with the rest of town. If his claim is truthful, Oman doesn't know who the scum are, or the town either, so he has no special knowledge. And right now the scum and Oman are one mislynch away from winning. Oman says he doesn't care who wins, and that part I believe. He can win as a survivor with just one more mislynch. So despite the fact that he says he would rather town win... at best he's neutral.

In his place, would you rather win with one more lynch, or extend the game longer and increase the chance of losing your victory?

We can't lynch Oman, and I guess, despite his comments about not caring who wins, that the vig shouldn't target him (the vig should target scum if at all possible), but we certainly should NOT take his advice on who to lynch. Given the way the game has gone so far, he'll win more quickly with scum than town, and he's likely to try to help that process along.

[Lowell]

BS Lowell, we have a good chance of lynching scum. I'd vote scum. Like I said, I'd rather see the town pull themselves out of this hole then scum easily winning it.

RE: Me voting for everyone. I'd much rather vote fro somone I think is scum (i.e. Skruffs).

Okay yes, you'd vote scum. So... how exactly does that mean everyone can agree on who scum is? You think with 4 or 5 ppl deliberately ignoring any wagon that starts on scum we're going to get the momentum to kill one?