Prophecy Mafia - Over

[Skruffs]

Well you've cleared the survivor, the vig-outer, and yourself. Good job, Lowell.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

It's lylo. At this point, surely finding scum is more important than keeping our power roles alive? I mean, keeping the vig alive is all well and good, but unless we hit scum and he hits scum tonight, we lose. And you know what? I didn't catch up 56 pages and replace into a game on day 5 just to *lose*. :p

[Lowell]

Well you've cleared the survivor, the vig-outer, and yourself. Good job, Lowell.

It's a start! What do you want from me? A few more innocents and I'll have the whole field figured out.

[Oman]

The reason we need to vig alive is at the moment we are in perpetual LyLo. Only the vig can get us out.

[Oman]

Keep the

[Skruffs]

I sincerely doubt the mafia-doc is interested in keeping the vig alive, too.

So, lowell should be lynched, yes?

[Bookitty]

People I am not willing to lynch:

Skruffs
Oman

I would consider anyone else, however. In my opinion, Lowell is acting scummy, but so was Sykedoc, and DizzyIzzy's plan to out the vig is just awful. The vig is the last real hope we have.

I want more discussion and some replacements before I am willing to put my vote on anyone.

[Oman]

Lowel has been doing it for ages. I think he's the lynch.

Vote Lowell

FTR I actually think this guy is scum, not trying to get a townie quicklynched.

[Lowell]

Whether you're trying to or not, that's what's going to happen.

[Lowell]

I'm going to

vote bookitty

. This is pretty much a shot in the dark.

[curiouskarmadog]

why the crap are you "shooting in the dark" at this point in the game?

have we all forgot the events of the day yesterday?

the lynch today is Dizzy...

[Lowell]

I'd probably lynch dizzy too if it came to it.

[Oman]

Oh I forgot about dizzy, damn.

Unvote Vote Dizzy

Next is Lowell.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Why would you want to vote for me? I'm entirely harmless. All I've done is state an option of attack that is supported by the fundamental mathematics of the situation. What's the case against me based on what my predecessor did?

vote: curioskarmadog

- A little bit gut feeling, a little bit OMGUS.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol....yeah, it was a slip up your predecessor had..

are you trying to say that I am scummy because I felt you predecessor was scummy? Why should that change or I should stop once you replace in?

nice vote...seems to me that if you really thought I was scum, you would put together a case....also, if you were remotely pro-town you wouldnt be voting on Day 5 with your gut and OMGUS.


This is the lynch today..

if you are not voting dizzy..I want to know why.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote dizzy

. Why the hell not.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Yes, because putting a vote on someone who has no votes for OMGUS and gut reasons is so, so dangerous. Honestly, your attitude during the catch up I had to do drove me crazy. You do not give off good vibes. You're voting for me based on *nothing*. Seriously. If you're voting for me based entirely on the alleged "slip" my predecessor is supposed to have made, then you're even more supid than I thought you were.

You're completely ignoring the fact that Lowell is playing stupid, just jumped on a wagon for even less reason than I had for voting for you and is allegedly responsible for inspiring the aforementioned alleged "slip", completely ignoring the fact that the alleged "slip" was made by someone else who was promptly nightkilled and proven to be pro-town. Maybe attempting to be clever and cryptic is a good move to confuse people so his scumbuddies can jump right on the wagon and get rid of a poor, innocent confused townie.

Seriously. Make a better case than "OMG, Lowell's cryptic statement confused him". Quit being an idiot. Or, I could just

unvote

, VOTE: [v/] vote: DizzyIzzyB13[/b] and, put myself at L-1 and yell "Go scum!", since that pretty much wins the game for you.

But I won't, since I'd actually like to win. So...

unvote

,

vote: curiouskarmadog

. You have no case against me aside a spurious, nothing case built up from a single incident that's been proven to be indicative of nothing (see: farside22 having the same reaction and coming up town). I might consider that you're a townie who hasn't got a read on anyone and is grasping at straws because it's lylo, but you're so aggressive and sure of yourself that I feel you're a bullying scum who wants a quick lynch and victory.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

unvote, vote dizzy

. Why the hell not.

Hi there, Wagon-riding scum!

[Flameaxe]

This is a good wagon.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Flameaxe, I've no idea why they haven't lynched you yet, you goddamn spamming jerk. That's not an insult, by the way, it's a summary of the irritating spam I had to read through to catch up. You're also probably scum. I wouldn't be surprised if you, Lowell, curiouskarmadog, UltimaAvalon and Oman were the 5 scum.

I mean, with the scum pretty much running the board, I'd be looking to put suspicion on the people who've managed to last to the end in this game without wanting to/needing to be replaced on account of townie defeatism. I'd put good money on at least half of the six people who haven't been replaced and are still alive being scum.

[Skruffs]

Vote Count:

Lowell - Oman
Bookitty - Lowell

Dizzy - Oman, Lowell
CKD - Dizzy

This is all from one page, in LYLO. Oman has now voted at least three playres, which is 'acceptab;e' because he is the survivor and just wants the game to end so he can win.

I don't think Dizzy is scum; I don' tthink scum would be trying to out the vig today, and drawing as much attention to themselves. They will just follow Oman onto a townie, let the vig hit oman instead of them, kill another townie, and be unable to lose after that.

Explanation (assuming they vote townie and this happens)
Now: 1V-4T-5M-1S
Lynch a townie: 1V-3T-5M-1S
Hit a random townie, vig hits OMan: 1V-2T-5M-
AT this point tomorrow even with the vig alive the mafia can not lose. They power vote someone, let's just assume it's another townie, not even needing to hide - (but the mafia doc will probably try to help, but, whatever)
1V-1T-5M
If the vig hits a scum at that point, and isn't NK'd, it's stilll1-4 the last day.

If we backtrack and go to what happens if the vig hits scum tonight instead of oman after lynching a townie:
1V-2T-4M-1S
The mafia still win, EVEN if Oman is on town's side as survivor, simply because town will not be able to push a lynch onto one of them without mafia's help. Presumably we go to nolynch, because town can't lynch mafia without mafia's help.

MAfia have 3 options to choose from, the vig has 6. For the sake of convenience, let's say the vig hits mafia and mafia hits townie.

1V-1T-3M-1S - Same situation. The mafia will win by default because the vig will be killed before he can vig all the mafiates, if we mislynch today. This is our last chance.


I completely believe that dizzy is probably the wrong wagon, and I would like to think that the vig will hit someone who quick votes right now. I don't care how long hte game has been going on, how boring it is, or how assinine some of hte players are, it's 'not a lost cause yet.

I think that since we lose if we lynch a townie today, regardless of who the vig hits, that he may as well hit oman if oman was on the losing wagon. I think OMan should be forced to try and help town, something he says he is doing but his actions do not reflect.




The best thing for us all to do, even if we have already claimed townie, is to ALL claim Vig. This is a very "I AM SPARTACUS" situation.

Even lynching OMan today results in a loss for town, now that I think about it. I do think that if he hurts town by acting as he is acting now, he should be prevented from making his own win condition, and I don' thtink any amount of whining by him is going to change my opinion. Saying "You lost, at least let me win" when you have intentionally been trying to make town lose is not garnering you any support.

[Lowell]

All right I'll

unvote

, in case I'm wrong.

There's a chance I won't be able to post from tonight until Friday. Just letting you all know.

[Oman]

I'm voting dizzy cuase he's scum.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Wait.

There are 11 players left. 4town+vig+Survivor v. GF+4 goons. Correct me if I'm wrong... but unless we lynch mafia or no lynch today, isn't the game over and night kills are irrelevent? I mean, if we lynch a townie, then it's essentially 5 v. 5, assuming the survivor still counts as town, and that means a mafia win, right?

[Oman]

Nope. IF the mafia kills me, and the vig kills mafia, its Lylo. Since there is still the option that the mafia can select the survivour and the vig could select so as to kill mafia, there is no endgame tonight.