Fritz's Fav Fictional Figures Faction Fest - Game over

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Original Roll String: 1d26

1 26-Sided Dice: (23) = 23

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shit messed up.

Original Roll String: 1d25

1 25-Sided Dice: (11) = 11

freakin' typos.

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Vote: JordanA24

I'm not sure about my sanity, though.

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Wow, my new playstyles gone tits up already.

I guess the thing that really caught my eye about Yagami's post was the fact that he included the dead people in it. UA selfvoting is a playstyle thing, and I've seen Glork do it a couple of times, so I put that down as that as well. I didn't notice MOS include himself in that dice roll.

I know it looked kinda scummy, but I'm at -3 on Page 4 in a game with 25 players, don't you think that's a bit much?

bullshit. I totally did include myself in the dice roll. 25 players, 1d25, what's the problem here?

I also don't believe the claim.

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no. bullshit. die. your claim does not make sense at ALL.

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Vote: Sarcastro

Was Flameaxe voted at all yesterday?

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As far as I can tell, Flameaxe wasn't voted for yesterday. Flameaxe, is this true?

Sarc is stalling on explaining the D2 opening post.

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Yeah that is a bit odd, how would Sarc know about it?

How would I know whether or not he does if he doesn't tell me?

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Why are MoS, Thin, Sarc and Flame still alive?

why do you want me dead?

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Yeah that is a bit odd, how would Sarc know about it?

How would I know whether or not he does if he doesn't tell me?

HELLO.

IF HE DOESN'T KNOW, HE CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING.

Use your brain plz, also

Unvote, vote: MoS

If he doesn't tell me he doesn't know, I don't know whether or not he knows. Duh.

Unvote, Vote: Jdodge

Don't play dense with me.

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Yeah that is a bit odd, how would Sarc know about it?

How would I know whether or not he does if he doesn't tell me?

HELLO.

IF HE DOESN'T KNOW, HE CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING.

Use your brain plz, also

Unvote, vote: MoS

If he doesn't tell me he doesn't know, I don't know whether or not he knows. Duh.

Unvote, Vote: Jdodge

Don't play dense with me.

It's the fishing more than anything that I dislike.

You think I'm scummy for fishing Sarc when the opening scene implied stongly that Sarc could be scum? What kind of game are you playing? This isn't hopscotch. This is mafia, and if I have reason to suspect someone, I'm going to question them to get as much information as possible. Otherwise I can't tell you who is the scumz.

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Glork, who was it you said I wasn't voting and was wrong about?

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Unvote, Vote: Cephrir

I can't miss out on this wagon.

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I really don't like how you started this wagon (and how people followed you with weak reasoning). It seemed pretty opportunistic, if you ask me.

I really don't like how you're scum.

QFT

Theopor's post against Cephrir was not weak AT ALL.

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I really don't like how you started this wagon (and how people followed you with weak reasoning). It seemed pretty opportunistic, if you ask me.

I really don't like how you're scum.

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Theopor's post against Cephrir was not weak AT ALL.

Really? You voted Sarc based on day 2's opening,

What is wrong with this? I still suspect Sarc because of the opening message. I just don't have anything else to correlate it with.

you voted JDodge because he said that Sarc couldn't answer any question about the day 2 opening if he doesn't know anything about it,

Pressure vote to get JDodge to stop mincing words. If you read the thread, you'd know that JDodge and I resolved this.

and then you get on the Ceph BW because you "can't miss out on this wagon".

And...your point?

Your votes have been all over the place all day. That looks like someone who's unsure or "non-committal". But, you find it scummy that no one really stands out as scum to Ceph? Prior to Ceph's post, who really stood out as scum to you and why?

Not really? In the first two examples you gave, there are clear arguments with other people that came after my vote and prompted me to unvote. If you weren't just skimming, you would know this. Yes, I find it scummy that someone who's been reading the game has no leads to go on. I have investigated multiple leads today, including Sarc and JDodge. You listing my votes pretty much proved that I *have* suspected other people before voting Cephrir.

On top of that, it would probably be a good idea to look closely at some of the people on yesterday's lynch wagon. I had a lot of fun getting a lynch that quickly, but even I have to admit there were probably multiple scum on it.

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Cuz you suck

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cuz IH sucks.

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cuz IH sucks.

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CUZ IH SUCKS.




Hmm, that was my 7777th game post. Seems kinda lame for a milestone. I should add something else, like:

BRAINMCQUESO IS THE BEST TWIN EVER

and

I <3 BLUEBERRIES

not to mention,

INTERNET STRANGER PWNS ALL YOU NOOBS

and the always classic

BITCHES.

'nuff said.

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Bitches.

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^good posting

I agree.

OMG PERSON C

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You haven't been out of town all game, or you would've been replaced by now. You haven't come up with wagons of your own pretty much all game.

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And what about before you claimed? Why weren't you playing like any protown player would *before* everyone was asking you to do it?

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ROFL. Glork is making me LoL. LEt's hurry and finish this game so I can nominate him. This is freaking hilarious. Thank you Skruffs for setting that up.

Guys, I bagged one.

Doubt it. But it was hilarious, though.

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Really, MoS? That surprises me.

What do you think of Skruffs' reaction to my FoS of him? What do you think of his asking about Pawn, role abilities, request for information that he thought I had, and his immediate

suspicion

of me for possibly knowing something about hiim and/or another player? What do you think of his accusation that I killed a player who had gotten replaced?




Also,

MODPROD: Ibaesha, Xyzzy, Rogueben, CrashTextDummie

I have a feeling that Rogueben (only post Sept 25) and Xyzzy (only post Sept 25) will need to be replaced outright.

Yes, really. I don't know what you're trying to pull here, Glork, but there was no way anyone could misconstrue Skruffs' posts as serious. Either you're slipping or something else is going on here, but it's all at your end. Skruffs has nothing to do with this.

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Wow, already? The page just started, man. Shape up!

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Skruffs, how am I deflecting from the wagon if everyone on it was on the Jordan wagon? Your logic doesn't string together well. You make one point and then make another point that counteracts your previous point.

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*shrug*

D1 I came back to find Jordan being wagoned and didn't like his claim. Today I'm just kinda apathetic, but I'm not just voting randomly.

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Guys, I'm starting to think MoS might be scum.



Hunch, mostly. There's something in the undertone of his behavior that I don't like. I'll investigate more later.

Try again.

Theo-
Jdodge has been cajoling cephrir and blight most of the day, being disrespectful, etc. He did the exact same thing in open 17, and he was town there. He tripped up all my scum-hunting triggers there, and he's the same here. Unless he acts as scummy as scum as he does as town, I'm going to consider him town now.

This nearly made me fall out of my chair laughing. JDodge acts scummy as town and is therefore town in this game, but there's no way that MoS could be town when he's acting scummy!? Hypocrite.

I'm listing mos as scum because of his comment regarding the previous day's lynch and the scum maybe on it. Mos loves the innocuous 'I'm scum' breadcrumb, and that struck me as one. That, and, every large game I've been in with him that he's died in, he's been scum.

What is an "I'm scum" breadcrumb, and why would I use it as scum? That's a retarded theory.

Just because I've been scum in like 15 of my last 25 large themes does not give me a higher probability of being scum in this game. In fact, since I was scum in so many games with you, you should easily be able to tell when I am scum. The fact that you are citing past games and still calling me scum means that you either didn't actually look at those games or you're scum hoping that other people don't check the references on their own and call you on the bullshit.

Nice try, though.

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MOS, you've been scum in every game. Every experience I have had with you has been when you are scum. Your comment about yesterday's wagon is par for the course of other comments you made in other games, as scum. Rememebr when you jokingly claimed cop in Maf. 61, bussing yoru buddy?? That recent comment was on the same lines.

My "claim" in Mafia 61 was a complete joke in response to something

you

, the protown tracker, set up. The fact that my scumbuddy happened to be the target of my joke was random. At that point in the day, I couldn't even remember why I was attacking him. I just voted him earlier in the day and stuck my vote there because it would look like I was being productive without having to actually contribute. I had no idea that my joke claim would cause acfan to bug out like that and get lynched as my scumbuddy. The factors surrounding that incident were completely unknown to me at the time.

On top of that, it would probably be a good idea to look closely at some of the people on yesterday's lynch wagon. I had a lot of fun getting a lynch that quickly, but even I have to admit there were probably multiple scum on it.

My recent comment was nothing AT ALL along those lines. First and foremost, it was not a joke. I am serious that there are probably scum on the Jordan wagon yesterday. Cuz...DUH. He was quicklynched on D5 by a majority of the players. How could there not be scum on it? What I said is common sense, but it's not something that people were doing, so I pointed it out. I fail to see ANY connection AT ALL between that comment and my joking fake claim that HAPPENED to get my scumbuddy lynched in Mafia 61.

If you are town in THIS game, then I will take that into account in future games.

It's not that I

should

know how you act as town, it's that I have never seen how you act as town.

It's not like there aren't plenty of examples where I am town. The majority of games I've played have me as town. Just read one of them. Heck, I was town in Kingmaker, you were in that game. I was also town in Consulmaker. And Evolution mafia. The lists goes on. It's only your own laziness that is leading you to make ill-formed opinions about me. One joke fake claim that has NOTHING to do with how I've acted this game is not enough evidence for you to claim that I am scum. In fact, it's a ridiculous assertion and I wonder why you would make such a clearly wrong claim.

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<3 teh ibbz0r

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Am I the only person whose eyes glaze over whenever I see a post from the Sarc/YagamiLight argument?

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By the way, YagamiLight is totally wrong that asking someone to claim is rolefishing, at least somewhat. Rolefishing is what Sarc said it was. Trying to subtly get hints about their role without actually getting them to claim. Asking someone to claim is "rolefishing" by definition, but it doesn't fall under the "rolefishing" scumtell that YagamiLight is trying to apply to Sarc here.

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I'm not saying role-fishing is scummy, especially based on the definition I always thought of. It's how and when your role fish that determines if it's scummy to me. Asking for a claim so with so few votes is a scummy form of rolefishing imo, because, as I've said, I only see reason for scum to do so.

No. Asking for a claim with so few votes is dumb for scum. I view it as a null tell in and of itself because it's just a mark of a person who wants to be belligerent towards a person they suspect. I've used this tactic before. The question is whether or not belligerence is in character for the player in question. The claim request is not scummy.

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Okay, sarc, your argument for it being a null tell is that you would act this way regardless if what side you are on right? If not, please quote your reasoning. I think we can end our little argument over this (in your favor most likely) if you do so. I'll post a whole explanation either later tonight, or tomorrow morning after I'm done.

I'm the one who said it was a null tell, not Sarc. Just sayin'

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Is this one of those 'that's too scummy to be scummy' arguments? For the record, people defending themselves by saying 'if I were scum, why would I do this', aren't really defendng themselves at all. It seems to indicate sarc considered if it would be scummy or not and then did it after deciding it would be.
In short, only mos's suggestion that it's a null tell matters-and even then, not really, what with him being evilly scumtastic.



Sooooooo


Sarc, why did you do something that you figured would be a null tell, instead of something you figured would be a town tell?
Also, I think the reason you are drawing so much attention is because blight has been 'talking' all game, whereas you've been keeping your opinions hidden.

It's nice to know you've stubbornly decided to keep calling me scum without having a case for it.

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Sarc, what do you think of Skruffs' assertion that I am scum?

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That actually made me rofl.

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Vote: Blight

Cuz I can. <3 Skruffs.

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I am the modern Confucius. You must meditate upon my truths and questions before you can comprehend them.

1.)

Sarc is arguing for the sake of arguing. When people vote Blight, he tells them to vote Cephrir. When people vote Cephrir, he tells them to vote Blight. Just about everybody is scum according to his posts. For Sarc, I'll consider this townish until further notice.

2.)

Glork is reminding me of Space Monkeys. He is acting like a 'dubmass', then trying to smooth it over.

3.)

Cephrir is

still

quoting other people's reasoning (he's done it for Post 157 and Post 500). Using others' words = can't get caught in your own words.

4.)

MoS is <3ing more than I'm used to seeing.

5.)

I don't agree with Blight's reason for voting Theopor,

or

his definition of role-fishing,

or

his definition of null-tell... but I don't think he is scum. {Note to self: background check him.}

6.)

Skruffs, since when do you "make a habit of ignoring me"? In my experience, you've done just the opposite.

7.)

I'm wondering if my meta on K-Scope is going to end up like my meta on CES.

8.)

I need a slugging.

"Only the wisest and stupidest of men never change." My vote stays on Cephrir.

<3

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I think Blight needs to put up or shut up. Sarc may be completely aggressive here, but Blight is also being an ass and not actually answering everything. They're both at fault.

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Yama needs checked on... in the "Lynched" kind of way.

Yama?

Skruffs are you being purposely idiotic or is it just coming natural? Bleh you could both.

Yagami?

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Yagami, why is there no reason for town to do that? You're claiming that town wouldn't do it without any reasoning behind it. There is plenty of reason for town to ask for a claim. I do it all the time.

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I now declare that Yagami Light is the only person on the board allowed to share a name with anyone from Death Note. Anyone who asks why will be pointed to this game. That is all

Yea, but Yagami's answers really aren't that great.

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Nah, not scum Sarc, just horribly disinterested in this game right now.

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lol pj amuses me.

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After rereading (except for those awful Sarc/X arguments that I refuse to put myself through again), MoS is pretty suspicious. IH is a little scummy as well. Sarc is still the worst. Nobody else seemed particularly bad.

Also, it would be really super if the useless people could post.

I am not scum.

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I am not scum.

Drat. I guess I'll have to look at someone else then.

Try Kison and Skruffs.

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After rereading (except for those awful Sarc/X arguments that I refuse to put myself through again), MoS is pretty suspicious. IH is a little scummy as well. Sarc is still the worst. Nobody else seemed particularly bad.

Also, it would be really super if the useless people could post.

How is MoS 'pretty suspicious'?
What is 'a little scummy' about IH?

Also, you have some nerve talking about useless people.

Ibby is much more eloquent than I am. <3

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Shit, I just realized I'm not voting Cephrir.

Unvote, Vote: Cephrir

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not helpful.

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I will not be able to post content until next week. I have an Ultimate tournament this weekend.

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xyzzy what seems protown about flameaxe?

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So you don't think the fact that he was jumping bandwagons all the time without providing any of his own reasoning was a mistake that he covered up by claiming he *had* to jump on bandwagons?

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7.)

MoS claims to forget his roles in games - in that sense, he does not have a meta to break. I still think there have been times (read: Old Maid) where I have been able to get a read on him, though.

To be fair, in Old Maid I knew I was scum for the whole game.

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Skruffs is really stretching to make his arguments against PJ.

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Skruffs, tbh, I don't know what happened to you. In several games lately you have been making bullshit arguments that I would expect to come from people like Battle Mage and Whitey the Oppressor. I don't mean to insult you, but it's true. Most of what you've been saying is not

logical

. Therefore, while I think you *are* intelligent, PJ is right that you haven't been showing it recently.

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Erm, correction. *Most* of what Skruffs is saying doesn't make sense. "Testing" Flameaxe isn't really going to work. Why would he do that? If I was town and had his role, I would never intentionally kill myself. If I was scum and had his role, I would never give myself away. I don't see why we are arguing this, because it all hinges on Flameaxe being willing to kill himself.

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Glork, what is the *harm* in Cephrir claiming, if he's going to be lynched anyways?

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I also think that had he claimed when first asked it could have made a difference but by refusing to claim he nailed the HAMMAH in his coffin. (Don't you just love bad puns).

Shouldn't it be "HAMMAH'd the nail in his coffin"? Who puts hammers in a coffin?

>.> <.<

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Probably because

you tell them you're stupid

after they make a lighthearted joke about something you said.

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Same. The question is, however, who would you kill, Pooky?

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7&7? =P

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V/LA until next week.

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They all look like vengeance/policy kills to me. Also, someone has a vendetta against Team Asshat.

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For the record, I don't buy CKD's claim. However, I'm fine with lynching Cephrir or Blight instead.

I buy that I'm protown =P

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Ibaesha: That looks remarkably like it was motivated by OMGUS. Having said that, I am interested, and I'll go back and reread those points. Can you also possibly recall and articulate what gave you town vibes about MoS in 434? I'm not sure he's got enough scrutiny throughout the game.

I've had more than enough scrutiny. Plus, I'm protown, so who cares? =P

Also, CKD is full of shit about Ibby. Which is a shame, because I think CKD is probably protown. He needs to get his head out of his ass and watch where he's driving.

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Unvote, Vote: Glork

I can't believe my vote was still on Cephrir.

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Taste it.

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Lynching a claimed cop in this situation would be an awful decision. Sarc and Elmo need to die for suggesting something that ridiculous at this point in the game.

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Ok. Well Sarc still needs to die. And CKD is probably protown.

Unvote, Vote: Sarc

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Just cuz you're not even voting him doesn't change the fact that you are pushing for his lynch with every post you make.

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Is that really what you think, mos?

Yes. Heck, if it wasn't already obvious, see below:

Elmo, I'm not advocating a CKD lynch based on the numbers. I'm advocating a CKD lynch based on the fact that he's

acting in an incredibly scummy fashion

. The numbers are my effort to explain why a cop claim is not a good reason not to lynch him, and why it actually lends credence to my argument that he's scum.

Town act scummy, too. The numbers do not AT ALL support lynching the scum in any

reasonable

fashion, even if they are

logically

consistent. Sarc, you may be marginally

logical

throughout this game, but you are not being at all

reasonable

. For me, that's the mark of a scum.

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Skruffs, that is highly illogical.

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Sarc vote is win.

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Happy scumday, PJ!

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Thank you.

And they disgust me, too.

We're putting you out of your misery. In a week.

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Yes, yes it is. I confess, father, that I have plans to urge certain people in this village to extinguish the spark of life from dear Sarcastro, so that he may never see the light of day. I will not stop until he swings from the beautiful sakura tree in the town square. Please forgive me.

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You'll have an easier time of it if you just nightkill me, MoS.

Oh god how I wish I could...

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Unvote: Vote: Glork

Yay Ibby!

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Uhh, either Glork's lying or Fritz fucked up. I wasn't given shit.

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Anyway, with the deadline about 24 hours away and me in the vote lead, I guess I should claim to you idiots. I'm Troy McClure, Inventor. (I'm not actually an inventor -- I sell products to players via my infomercials.) N1 I gave an investigation to CPE and last night I gave a Doc ability to MoS.
I also have an RB, a Vig, and a Tracker ability to hand out.

I did not receive

anything

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It's a trap.

IT'S A TARP!

Also, I would vote Sarc at deadline if Glork can actually get confirmed.

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bah.