Mini 1595: WiFom City: The Inquisition - GAME OVER - THANKS!

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Whoo! /confirm

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Prove it.

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Surprising no one, fontisian is fontisian.

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You asked a question. I saw Mechanics Wall and totally blanked. Re-reading...

Oh, I played Witchhunt!

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Survey says scum, fontisian.

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Yes.

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I dunno, the cycles of activity thing seems pretty spot on. How'd you come to that conclusion, Unsight?

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Why do you want the GD claim?

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Because it is unequivocally pro-town.

Because...

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ika, don't you claim for me. I can claim all by myself.

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/Confirm
Side note, I'm somewhat confused about people calling others Town and Scum already, I'm assuming it's not very serious, like this is "RVS" without the votes. Otherwise I'd need explanation to understand.

The town/scum thing is some meta and some very low info post analysis as far as I'm aware. However fontisian is probably scum. Something tells me you already know that though.

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I gave zero opinions and really just asked why everyone else wanted it.

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I'm more curious as to why font's first post was basically her opening from the last Witchhunt, though less abrupt and more conciliatory. I'm also still don't understand fully why town would volunteer information to the scum team, which has more in the first place.

On the other hand at least there's something interesting to talk about pre-game.

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PM Titus, I had the same issue.

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blab? Where?

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Holder, in a world where you control what is said in pre-game, what exactly do you want us to talk about?

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Can we get a timer for the end of pre-game?

Pretty sure everyone has confirmed in.

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I'm not sure but I have a feeling it wouldn't involve claiming Bomber and using almost zero information to *seriously* claim people are scum and town.

Well unfortunately we've got to get information somehow so get out there and point some fingers. It's the American way.

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Whoo! PST!

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I think I'm missing something, when did ika claim exactly?

Also, tempted to claim to irk you now just because, Heel. I've gotta get more sleep consistently.

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fontisian

Atum

Yep, that looks right.

You're still scum fonti, but I appreciate being at the top. No one ever puts me at the top. If you tell me your scummate, I promise not to vote you D1!

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But I love Grib! We have a bond that goes beyond mere Mafia. Tell me the other one instead.

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Stigmata: Atum's a different person, and is probably too scared of me to challenge me like this if he were scum. Rubicon, on the other hand, knows better.

Heel: There's such a thing as too stupid to be fake. Honey's comment falls in that category. Try to be a little less wooden when you post, won't you? We're all just people.

I ain't scared of no time lord. If I were scum, I'd kill you for that blasphemous suggestion.

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I'll miss you holder. You were my favorite person-I've-never-played-with. If you're really leaving though...could you just tell me one thing?

How'd you come up with your handle?

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First.

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I'm not sure Heel's been officially replaced just yet.

Fontisian/Citrus: What makes Rubi and me unaligned?

Grib: the setup has some slight but important changes.

Unsight, why so quiet pre-game?

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Oh and I concur on fontisian for slightly dofferent reasons,

VOTE: fontisian

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Not sure about Grib, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on Citrus.

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Your lack of explanation is unbecoming of town!you Rubicon.

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I'm not GD, sorry ika.

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IRC but that's it.

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There are another two votes for fontisian (Atum, Unsight) and 1 for Citrus (Stigmata).

Fixed. ~Titus

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These lond deadlines really kill activity thus far. Maybe it's the weekend?

Atum

ika
Grib

Stigmata
Honey bee

Jargonaut
Albert B. Rampage
ZZZX

MadCitrus
Holder of the Heel

Unsight
Rubicon
fontisian

Way to many nulls. Anyway, discuss.

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Way to many nulls. Anyway, discuss.

You said your reason for voting fontisian was different from mine in Post 196. What is it?

Also, what about MadCitrus makes him scummy? Did you just want to make him orange?

I somewhat address my vote on fontisian pre-game but I will elaborate. Like I said before, the first thing is her opening to this game matching the linked WH, with a different tone and more explanation up front. She explained this as circumstances present in the beginning of that game and looking back I see that this appears to be a fairly standard opening. Still rubbed me wrong. The bigger issue now is that her reaction to me calling her scum is off. And when she got called on it (partially) the reason was garbage.

As for Citrus, for starters his town list is ugh. His clear on Unsight makes since if she's town, but at the same time scum GD is also unlikely to be too pleased to be pressed for a role claim so early on. The fontisian explanation has merit though. One issue with Citrus is the on-going Stigmata thing, especially since he's been performing some of the same behavior, i.e. doubtcasting. Plus he's pointing out the behavior but not really saying who he thinks is or is not scum. It feels like he's forcefully copying town play. But tone-wise his D1 posts have been much more aligned with the scum FM game I've played with him than the town one.

Not sure about Grib, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on Citrus.

Grib

Way to many nulls. Anyway, discuss.

How'd you get from Point A to Point B?

Not sure what you mean with this question. Someone asked whether Grib would purposefully 'confuse' the setup in a post to make it appear as though he didn't know the number of Devils. That I wasn't sure about. The second quote from my readlist is just my read, largely based on meta, though I can't recall a Grib scum game.

@Citrus: Who does 235 address?

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Question time!

If you could have picked a role, what would it be?

Are you having fun?

Where else (if applicable) do you play mafia?

Steak or ham?

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Atum, is your unsight scum read because of them not posting alot pregame?

No. My issue with the pre-game thing is that she waited until D1 and then the reason for the reveal was unconvincing. Unless there were people besides ika the that figured out her role before the reveal. Plus, fontisian has a slight proclivity towards bussing scummates, at least on IRC and I'd like to watch those interactions develop. The same thing goes for her and Citrus. If my reads were based on activity, well there aren't enough scum in game for that.

what are your reads as well, i need soemthign to do here im getting board myself

No kidding. Half the players are never here due to V/LA or just lurkage. You can only read the same posts before you start thinking "Is that scummy? Or how about that? Maybe that's a scum tell."

Atum's whole "If you could have picked a role, what would it be?" is really scummy if you look at it in the light of "Tell me what role you're not" because then it becomes a more clever bit of rolefishing. But then I doubt myself by thinking "Is that really scummy or am I just that bored I'm seeing scum tells where there aren't any?" I don't want to tunnel on the people posting just because they're the only ones talking.

Firstly, I think you think I'm more clever than I think I am. Secondly, please for the love of god tunnel me. This is sooooo booooring.

Also, fontisian has posted some more since you voted her, thoughts?

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Fontisian, assume you're wrong and Unsight is scum, how do we proceed without solid GD information?

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I save my tears for scum!Grib. Anything else is manageable.

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You pop in at the strangest times ABR.

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The gravedigger only gets lynch and NK assuming this game adheres to the same rule as the DLP WH in that respect.

Does the Gravedigger receive alignment/role information from bomb victims?

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@rubicon: my opinion of ZZZX is that he ignored critical discussion to comment on trivial things and then laid a reasonless vote (in my eyes) on me instead of providing a real reason or vote. The fact that he ignored me again just confirms my opinion on him. What made you vote zzzx now?

The reasonless vote thing seems to be occurring quite a bit this game, is your focus on ZZZX mostly OMGUS?

my opinion of you is you are scum.

My question was why you didn't talk about the gravedigger claim at the beginning of the game and talked about trivial things instead. And please explain your vote on me too.

I understand your busy ( I usually am too). I just get more suspicious when someone makes a post after i accuse them and say nothing about my read. Take your time, i just want an answer.

Now that you have a definitive scum read you should tell me 2 more!

@fontisian: How was Billy Joel? Also, has your list of scum reads developed?

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@Hiplop: How much experience do you have playing as scum?

@ZZX: How about a scum read list?

@fontisian: Is hiplop your scum mate?

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Can we, the poor plebes of WiFoM City, have a vote count oh magnificent Mayor Titus?

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hiplop I need you to be honest for a second.

Are you scum?

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Citrus, is font usually this snarky?

So much yes. All the yes.

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The only thing about a fontisian - ABR - Rubicon scum team is that means Atum is not scum which just confuses me. I've had a light scum read on Atum, but every time I try to connect the dots they're just not there. It's worth ISO'ing him if you haven't ( you referring to everyone ), but I stand by the money lynch being fontisian both in terms of killing scum and getting information. ABR can be tomorrow.

The conf bias is strong in this one, I can almost taste it.

I asked you to tunnel me Unsight, what happened?

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I got the order of operations wrong on the Rubicon wagon wrong

, but with the way font is going for the "Town Leader" angle as someone else put it I could totally see a Day 1 Font/ABR bus on Ribicon for early credibility. I was actually digging a Rubicon wagon and have been since Post 50 which was just plain weird but then ABR/font did their thing and that gave me all sorts of creepy crawly feelings so I've kept my vote on font.

Also what does this mean?

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Actually even more questions, what's wrong with post 50?

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And since when do you suspect Rubicon is scum, Unsight c'mon.

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albert please dont be lazy. Font is scum, vote her silly man!

and thanks Citrus!

I could go for switching to ABR. My biggest bad habit is tunnel vision. ABR has done literally nothing as far as i can tell. Jumped on an easy wagon withme (that had no explanation, either from him or others)

The thing is though, the OMGUS super-read that font developed on me just screams paranoid scum.

The change in tone here is really bad in terms of how you refer to ABR. Your explanation of why you'd be ok voting him looks like covering your bases, you're fairly defensive about the wagon on you and you keep bringing up fontisian for towncred when she flips scum.

@Citrus: If you won't tell fonti, tell

me

why hiplop is town.

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hiplop I need you to be honest for a second.

Are you scum?

Unfortunately not my friend

if this isnt a scum-driven wagon I don't know what is ~_~

Post is town ^

What do you mean TripleZ?

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The conf bias is strong in this one, I can almost taste it.

I asked you to tunnel me Unsight, what happened?

I did. I'm sure what you're fishing for here.

And since when do you suspect Rubicon is scum, Unsight c'mon.

My ISO should tell you.

Actually even more questions, what's wrong with post 50?

Go read Post 50. If you can't see what's wrong with it, this becomes a different conversation.

Also what does this mean?

In my Post 408, I thought ABR started the wagon and font jumped on it.

Unsight are you going to be difficult? That would make me sad. Take a look at all the times you've directly mentioned Rubicon in ISO, including quotes:

So far I'm really not liking fontisian.

The entire pregame was basically him rolefishing and attempting to buddy with

Rubicon

, Atum, Ika, and maybe Heel. fontisian flips scum and it's likely one of those is his first scum buddy and someone he more or less avoided is his other scum buddy.

More to come once I digest the posts made since last I read. In the meantime, I like this a lot:

VOTE: fontisian

Actually, calling the

Rubicon

/ABR/Jargonaut scumteam with outside chances of ZZZX and Atum now.

What posts make you suspect

Rubicon

?

Unsight: Are

Rubicon

and Atum inactive?

Basically more of the same. Post 240 is says all the active people are town and the Post 241,

mostly

, says the inactive people are scum. That's not scum hunting, that's covering your butt.

3. The picking at a minor wording arrangement was a way of discrediting my attack without directly engaging me. Simply put, it was a cop out.

Kettle meet pot.

I could go for switching to ABR. My biggest bad habit is tunnel vision. ABR has done literally nothing as far as i can tell. Jumped on an easy wagon withme (that had no explanation, either from him or others)

Ditto--minus the bit about ABR having done nothing. I really want to policy lynch ABR because I can't decide whether his play is annoying or annoyingly scummy.

I got the order of operations wrong on the

Rubicon

wagon wrong, but with the way font is going for the "Town Leader" angle as someone else put it I could totally see a Day 1 Font/ABR bus on Ribicon for early credibility. I was actually digging a

Rubicon

wagon and have been since Post 50 which was just plain weird but then ABR/font did their thing and that gave me all sorts of creepy crawly feelings so I've kept my vote on font.

The only thing about a fontisian - ABR -

Rubicon

scum team is that means Atum is not scum which just confuses me. I've had a light scum read on Atum, but every time I try to connect the dots they're just not there. It's worth ISO'ing him if you haven't ( you referring to everyone ), but I stand by the money lynch being fontisian both in terms of killing scum and getting information. ABR can be tomorrow.

Now if you're going to be tossing me bullshit, dismissive answers like this, you can have my vote for toDay.

All I'm fishing for is you getting lynched at this point.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Unsight

Gravedigger is usually a low priority night kill for the scum.

Let's have that other conversation. What exactly is wrong with this?

Next we're going to find where you tunnel me, here's every post in which you even appear to be questioning/attacking me:

So far I'm really not liking fontisian.

The entire pregame was basically him rolefishing and attempting to buddy with Rubicon, Atum, Ika, and maybe Heel. fontisian flips scum and it's likely one of those is his first scum buddy and someone he more or less avoided is his other scum buddy.

More to come once I digest the posts made since last I read. In the meantime, I like this a lot:

VOTE: fontisian

Way to many nulls. Anyway, discuss.

You said your reason for voting fontisian was different from mine in Post 196. What is it?

Also, what about MadCitrus makes him scummy? Did you just want to make him orange?

what are your reads as well, i need soemthign to do here im getting board myself

No kidding. Half the players are never here due to V/LA or just lurkage. You can only read the same posts before you start thinking "Is that scummy? Or how about that? Maybe that's a scum tell."

Atum's

whole "If you could have picked a role, what would it be?" is really scummy if you look at it in the light of "Tell me what role you're not" because then it becomes a more clever bit of rolefishing. But then I doubt myself by thinking "Is that really scummy or am I just that bored I'm seeing scum tells where there aren't any?" I don't want to tunnel on the people posting just because they're the only ones talking.

I could go for switching to ABR. My biggest bad habit is tunnel vision. ABR has done literally nothing as far as i can tell. Jumped on an easy wagon withme (that had no explanation, either from him or others)

Ditto--minus the bit about ABR having done nothing. I really want to policy lynch ABR because I can't decide whether his play is annoying or annoyingly scummy.

I got the order of operations wrong on the Rubicon wagon wrong, but with the way font is going for the "Town Leader" angle as someone else put it I could totally see a Day 1 Font/ABR bus on Ribicon for early credibility. I was actually digging a Rubicon wagon and have been since Post 50 which was just plain weird but then ABR/font did their thing and that gave me all sorts of creepy crawly feelings so I've kept my vote on font.

The only thing about a fontisian - ABR - Rubicon scum team is that means

Atum

is not scum which just confuses me. I've had a light scum read on

Atum

, but every time I try to connect the dots they're just not there. It's worth ISO'ing him if you haven't ( you referring to everyone ), but I stand by the money lynch being fontisian both in terms of killing scum and getting information. ABR can be tomorrow.

This is not tunneling.

Also this was super fun to write. For clarity and repetitiveness:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Unsight

@Anyone: Is it possible to take an entire page for one post?

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It's...beautiful.

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I assumed he was referring to himself or using ABC/DEF as variables to suggest that Grib was tossing in random names.

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Sheep me ika, and I shall lead you to greatness.

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Mist, more words please.

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Hmm Atum. Do you prefer to be town or scum? Can you explain your meta shift from your DLP games in a satisfactory manner? I'll even give you town points!

Grib, where areeeee youuuuuu?

I like playing scum. Citrus, this is like my third forum mafia game, I like to think I don't have too much concrete established meta. But I guess I have in the past had lower activity which is no longer the case because I'm not finishing my senior year anymore and it's the summer. Me seeming more involved might just be boredom with everything else I'm doing in RL. Anything else you'll have to specify what you assumed my meta to be and what exactly has changed. I'd like to think that this is a nice blend of IRC-DLP which I consider optimal for now.

Now give me the points. They help me breathe and give me inner strength.

The Gravedigger claim in pregame is always optimal, as it allows the GD to drop info as we go, and increases accountability. The method of the claim can also be very helpful in determining their alignment, as it was in this case. The gravedigger, if town, is unlikely to get shot, as scum tend to be more interested in holy hunting and get some use from the gravedigger role info.

You can read more about it here: http://www.fantasystrike.com/forums/ind ... hread.9213

Grib is town because he assumed there were four witches in the game when there are actually three. What part of that statement do you disagree with and why?

Ika is town because he's a terrible, apathetic scum player. You can confirm that if you get the time to meta him.

Lynching me is stupid, because I'm going to get shot later and become confirmed town and, even if I were scum, I have a history of bussing that you can use.

Does this mean I'm not town anymore?

Alright, I have no idea who to vote or what I'm doing.

Unvote

ABR, I think you literally made my whole day brighter. Please never change.

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On a scale from 1-to no way in hell, how likely is a fontisian-Unsight-hiplop team? And how much time is left toDay?

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I had a lot of fun writing this. Unsight, I really want to thank you for that.

This is really cool. This is one of those moments when you think something is going to happen and it happens and you're so proud of yourself.

I want everyone to watch the narrative as it happens:

Post 194 I vote fontisian. Buddying rolefishing, what-have-you. An early scum read and a nice place to put my vote.

Post 196 Atum agrees for reasons which come later. Good vibrations.

Post 343 comes. I read this one a few times.

"How are we feeling about fontisian now? Maybe a little more town now? About ready to find a new wagon?"

If Atum is scum and fontisian is scum, then it looks good for him to have been on fontisian's wagon but

he's probably not willing to bus Day 1

. I

looked at this both ways, Town Atum kind of getting bored of the wagon and Scum Atum trying to softly pry me off his scum buddy

. One of those just happened but I wasn't sure which.

I'm just going to dump this here for a minute for dissection and comparison:

Atum, is your unsight scum read because of them not posting alot pregame?

No. My issue with the pre-game thing is that she waited until D1 and then the reason for the reveal was unconvincing. Unless there were people besides ika the that figured out her role before the reveal. Plus, fontisian has a slight proclivity towards bussing scummates, at least on IRC and I'd like to watch those interactions develop. The same thing goes for her and Citrus. If my reads were based on activity, well there aren't enough scum in game for that.

what are your reads as well, i need soemthign to do here im getting board myself

No kidding. Half the players are never here due to V/LA or just lurkage. You can only read the same posts before you start thinking "Is that scummy? Or how about that? Maybe that's a scum tell."

Atum's whole "If you could have picked a role, what would it be?" is really scummy if you look at it in the light of "Tell me what role you're not" because then it becomes a more clever bit of rolefishing. But then I doubt myself by thinking "Is that really scummy or am I just that bored I'm seeing scum tells where there aren't any?" I don't want to tunnel on the people posting just because they're the only ones talking.

Firstly, I think you think I'm more clever than I think I am. Secondly, please for the love of god tunnel me. This is sooooo booooring.

Also, fontisian has posted some more since you voted her, thoughts?

Let's go one at a time and see if we can spot the inconsistencies.

1. I guess this is a misinterpretation. Probably deliberate. I asked you to update your read on fontisian since before it was for pre-game rolefishing/buddying. But fine I can get this I guess.

2. C'mon really, if i were scum and fontisian scum, how could you say I wasn't willing to bus D1, since I've been calling her scum since pre-game? Did you stop and think about what you were writing or get too excited about the opportunity to make a townie look scummy?

3.Way to cover your ass. I think I've made it pretty clear that I'm bored as hell.

4. Let's not forget the

HALF

of that post you neglect to mention in your analysis

POST 364 comes right after I answer Atum with a "No, I'm happy with my vote." At this point, I start getting really bad feelings.

He's not outright calling me scummy

,

he's making it as nonthreatening as possible

, but he's

giving fontisian the "Can we flip this around

?"

So that was on page 15. I'm thinking to myself, he couldn't buddy and pry me so he's gonna have to chainsaw me. Atum is gonna start poking at me and, whatever I say, he's going to wagon me. In my own Post 468 I note that Atum hasn't done it yet. It's trending in this direction, but it's not there yet.

You can't possibly be this obtuse as town. It literally boggles the mind.

1. I'm not calling you scummy? No, that's because I called you scum all the way back in 239

2. I'm not even talking to you in 364.

This is the most legitimate thing you've mentioned thus far. The best way to find a group of scums I've seen is to force them to interact and respond for ISO. Thank you for doing so. However, at no time in 364 did I suggest that fontisian was not scum in an attempt to save her from the steadily growing wagon on her, nor did I, before that post, fail to communicate my intent to vote you.

Post 489 is the chainsaw. Prying failed, fontisian's wagon is gaining steam, and he's got to save his scum partner somehow.

What I'm getting here is that you can't actually answer to my accusations so you've committed the all too common error of attacking the person rather than the argument. This makes a great deal of sense considering the limited information the town has and the untenability of your current position. Unfortunately you are perhaps the least subtle person I've ever played with. That includes ika who while often brash can set up some interesting gambits. Go away, and if I can't get a wagon on you toDay I can at least leave my reads so the Town hangs you tomorrow.

And that's 2 out of 3. 1 left.

hiplop, and that makes 3.

POST 364 comes right after I answer Atum with a "No, I'm happy with my vote." At this point, I start getting really bad feelings. He's not outright calling me scummy, he's making it as nonthreatening as possible, but he's giving fontisian the "Can we flip this around?"

Actually he did straight up call me scum. He just didn't do it with a vote.

No, I did it a hundred posts back with a bright rainbow wall, listing you as a lower certainty scum mate of fontisian and Rubicon. Check a ways back, or ISO me like you've suggested for others, clearly without having done so previously.

Spoiler Alert:

You're one of those red names at the bottom. I have since updated that list, replacing Rubi with hiplop.

Unsight, as a learning exercise, I want you to take a step back and pretend for a moment that you aren't scum. As a member of the Town, could you look at this interaction and see at what point you stopped making any sense. Is it just me?

I will say however, that this is pretty much what I was looking for with the tunneling request. Keep it up, you're doing great!


@hiplop: At this point, hiplop virtually the only reason you might not be scum is the fact that you were so quick to comment in support of the above. I can't even see new!scum pulling that.

Does this count as being mean?

Also, color coded, how you like me now?

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This thread is really hard to read because Rubicon and fontisian keep speaking in riddles and they don't even answer half the shit I ask (which is not even half the shit I want to ask.)

You ask all the right questions~

Ok, I'm caught up, and I think I have a really good grasp on this game. But then again it's 4:30 in the morning and I could be totally wrong.

Either way, my scum reads right now are

1. Font
2. Grib
3. Ika

I also feel like the Hiplop wagon was scum driven, and in that case feel like Hiplop is town. I'll probably have a full reads list tomorrow when, again, it's not 4:30 in the morning.

Hey, when you've got some time, can you explain the Grib and ika reads? And nice cop out by the way, it's fun when RL works out for you like that.

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Can we get a Mod Prod?

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I figured, but I am still way too lazy to try and make a votal, no matter how bored I am.

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Boo!

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Is it important to actually read pages 25 and 26? Because if not I don't want to.

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You guys are hilarious.

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What do you think about it?

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grib if you dont belive it why dont you vote her?

so we still up for day 2 mass role call?

I'm still not sure of the pros/cons of a Day 2 mass claim.

Then again, I might just be a little salty because my role immediately becomes worthless afterward.

not really, you still reveal alignments. thats a key thing also

She already knows the alignments. Is it fair to call that a scum slip or just a role misread?

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True, just noticed. VOTE: fontisian

Also, Unsight claimed her role would be worthless after a mass claim, implying that its only worth was in telling the roles of players that die during the day, not their alignments. Either 1) She didn't read/understand the GD role correctly. 2) She's scum and doesn't need the alignment reveal because there are no third-parties.

Or at least that's how I interpreted it.

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I hate your post 689 and am considering lynching you over it.

This post is giving me pause. A level of consistency with the gambit that I'm not sure she'd achieve as scum.

What would you expect her to do at this point if she were scum?

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Right, your post made it sound like you wouldn't expect her to stick with/be able to stick with the gambit as scum. Or something like that.

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So...words right?

Fontisian, assume that you missed at least one scum in your reads, which town reads do you consider weakest?

Rubicon, mind sharing your reads?

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Can we vote on what happens with da bomb?

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Awesome! I vote we blow up hiplop or Unsight! Make 'em flip a coin!

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Hiplop, you're either holy or scum. Everyone knows this. Denying it for the sake of appearances is meaningless.

If you didn't want to be outed as holy, you shouldn't have claimed holy.

I didn't know until you said something, because I skipped those pages. Given the precedent seen thus far it's also possible that ABR missed that particular revelation. Actually, I still have no idea what you're talking about.

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Scum GD is useless GD. I'd rather take my chances on a town apprentice. And fontisian, I don't think you're town remember?

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I can only assume you're being sarcastic, Rubicon.

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...I think Unsight is scum as well fontisian. You're really off your game. And you know good and well that you doing well is an equally good indicator of either Town or Scum for you. Stop with the melodrama.

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Who has it now anyway?

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...I think Unsight is scum as well fontisian. You're really off your game. And you know good and well that you doing well is an equally good indicator of either Town or Scum for you. Stop with the melodrama.

I'm not the one with scum reads on likely town.

No, you're the one at lynch.

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New plan since this is boring: We should all make rainbow walls!

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Grib

Stigmata
Honey bee
ika
Rubicon
Albert B. Rampage

ZZZX
Misty
MadCitrus

hiplop
Unsight
fontisian

I left and came back and there were no rainbows.

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Yesssssss

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Actually no, ika


Fixed.

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He did ask if we could kill you a few posts back...

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This game has devolved into anarchy. As your King I demand useful activity. Also give Unsight the bomb so she can sit on it to keep it warm until it hatches.

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So...back to the bomb?

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Can we give ika the bomb?

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Can we give ika the bomb?

why the sudden change of hearts?

You're beginning to irk me. And I want to see what happens while you're holding it.

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And the inquisitor self-checks.

Atum, how do you think a bomb is best used by a town bomber vs. a scum bomber?

Uh...no clue? For either it'd be optimal to wait on the decision from town since it takes the responsibility of the players back if the bomb hits town though. It'd probably be better for a scum bomber to hit someone who normally would be hard to mislynch or later in the game would likely get an Angel protect at night.

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I think the idea for hitting honey bee is that no one is really scum reading her as far as I'm aware so if she gets blown up we can assume the bomber is not town and we give the bomb to someone we think is town and can pass it along. Which either removes a weapon from the scum team temporarily or just loses a townie. Not sure that works until a mass claim though.

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Ika, how does 42 make fontisian and Unsight unaligned? Or any of the other ones actually?

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*32, my bad

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Rubi, why should the priest check you?

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So I don't follow some of the reasoning that's been said on or the direction this day is going right now. I also can't put in the time to fix it really. V/LA for a week or so because I just started college.

Also ika, Mist, and Stiggy I'm going to need to hear why you voted me and why you switched focus. In that order if possible. And did the Acolyte confirm for ika?

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hiplop, every time you post you look less and less town. Explain your reads, at least the bottom 3.

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And I misread that, my bad. Still want to hear how your reads progressed though.

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Stigmata I don't really understand your confusion. I thought fonti was playing off from the start. Nothing she did in this game dissuaded me of that. I don't know what you mean about Micro Mafia, so either elaborate or drop it. And you still haven't given a reason for voting me.

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Err sorry, I meant AYAW3, forgot the name.

I'm too angry to deal with anything mafia at this point. Riley can either replace or you guys can lynch me. I don't give a fuck.

It's not related to this game. Don't worry about it.

I don't want to replace out for a game that ends in a max of three days anyway. Ugh. If Riley has a replacement lined up, he should have them replace me. If not, I'll stay.

Sorry for the freak out.

Part of the reason she won that one is because people didn't think she'd play that way as scum. Unsurprisingly she flipped town in the game she was actually that frustrated over. Did none of that make you think twice?

My top 2 scumreads coming into today were Mist and you (both kinda gut, but I thought you were the probscum of people I'd been throwing into my townpile for a while.) I voted you to motivate myself to actually ask you questions about your alignment later on (figured I was biased against Mist and wouldn't actually make progress w reading her, so that could wait.) I don't think you're her buddy though so now I don't really care. You do seem kinda defensive though. Is it stress?

Eh, could be stress. I'm upset with myself for not giving this more attention since that was my intention but life is now college so oh well. I'm going to go through mist's interactions with my earlier scum reads because it actually was helpful in WH4, even if I was using it as scum. While I'm here though, you're not scum, are you Stiggy?

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Scum (+grib) gotta be in Stig/ZZZX/ABR/Grib

You are now a Day Vig with 1 bullet. Which of those 4 do you shoot and why?

i want to extend this to everyone, outside of mist who would you shoot and why?

name 3 people.

Mist interactions still coming, but I'm trying to keep up.

I'd shoot Unsight, Triple-Z, and ABR. I think.

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Wheeee. Rubicon, words hurt man.

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Whoa game state changes. Also I'm alive. And a little high. Like a lot of little. Also College! More tomorrow. I donmt wanna vote without knoong the count.

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Just to clarify, Triple Z is scum by a priest check?

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Dead!Grib = Sad!Atum

Is there any reason, mechanics-wise why Citrus would be townfirmed?
Also, I support a massclaim.