Mini 1595: WiFom City: The Inquisition - GAME OVER - THANKS!


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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:26 pm

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What opening gambit are you talking about? Am I just supposed to take your word on the Rubicon meta or are you going to elaborate? What exactly made you decide he wasn't town anymore? Why is him nitpicking there a scumtell? Why are you relating Atum and Rubicon's alignments? Why are you hardtownreading Unsight for something Grib pointed out? Can you throw me meta links of both alignments so I can get a better feel for what ika means by misting vs you gamesolving?
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:33 pm

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I'm so sorry guys, but technical difficulties are going to be preventing me from regularly participating. I've requested to replace out.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:40 pm

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1. Rubicon likes to open games by saying something too stupid to possible be true, in order to get the game going and judge reactions. Here, he claimed town survivor, then scum gambler (a reference to his role in his last scum game) and then town gambler. The difference between this and the other times is here it was just a joke, and did nothing in the way of generating reactions.
2. I decided he wasn't town when I reviewed his first posts, noticed they were pointless, saw how he focused on figuring out your identity instead of scumhunting early on, and then grew dislike his post as overly honest.
3. The picking at a minor wording arrangement was a way of discrediting my attack without directly engaging me. Simply put, it was a cop out.
4. I think it's unlikely that more than one scum is pushing me, and extremely unlikely that all three are. Rubicon and Atum started doing it at the same time, which makes them likely unaligned. In addition, I doubt everyone pushing me is town and Rubicon is the scummiest of the lot.
5. How am I hard town reading Unsight for something Grib pointed out?
6. I honestly have no idea what ika is talking about. I'll hunt down my most recent DLP games.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:40 pm

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sorry to see you go Jargonaut. :(


Honey bee: What do you think of ZZZX?

ZZZX: Could you give me your top 3 scum reads?

VOTE: ZZZX
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:42 pm

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In post 375, Stigmata wrote:What opening gambit are you talking about? Am I just supposed to take your word on the Rubicon meta or are you going to elaborate? What exactly made you decide he wasn't town anymore? Why is him nitpicking there a scumtell? Why are you relating Atum and Rubicon's alignments? Why are you hardtownreading Unsight for something Grib pointed out? Can you throw me meta links of both alignments so I can get a better feel for what ika means by misting vs you gamesolving?


check WH 4 and compare it to WH 3

i could be wrong but im going with what pings me atm.

the GD could also be scum as well
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:44 pm

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In post 227, Grib wrote:Unsight, in the WH game linked earlier, the GD was town and made it all the way to endgame. You'll be fine. Scum want to know what people flip just as much as town does.

If you do get shot, it's very likely the Apprentice chose GD and is scum.

In post 352, fontisian wrote:-le snip-

Unsight's town for the paranoia about a scum!Apprentice killing the Gravedigger to get their powers.


I think she's talking about this.

Stigmata, Unsight made this post way before she claimed:

In post 46, Unsight wrote:
In post 33, Atum wrote:I dunno, the cycles of activity thing seems pretty spot on. How'd you come to that conclusion, Unsight?


It's my gut feeling upon reading the sheer number of roles that have active abilities that oppose one another ( +lives and -lives ). Maybe they all cancel one another out, but maybe they don't. I'd call it swingy, but I don't know how many people know that word in a game context.

In post 13, fontisian wrote:I would like a gravedigger claim in pregame for accountability purposes, and to aide the apprentice with their choice.


If I'm reading the Apprentice role correctly, they automatically learn the identity of Gravedigger or Judge ( their choice ). The Apprentice doesn't need a role claim. Ignoring that, any role could be found on town or scum. If the Gravedigger claims and dies, then their role could end up in the hands of a scum Apprentice. If the Apprentice is scum and the Gravedigger and Judge are not then having one role claim lets the scum pick the other and know exactly who to kill right off the bat.


Unsnipped because editing multiple quotes in a quote is way too much work.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:45 pm

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In post 377, fontisian wrote:3. The picking at a minor wording arrangement was a way of discrediting my attack without directly engaging me. Simply put, it was a cop out.

I don't think you should accuse me of not engaging you considering you've basically ignored my last two posts to you.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:48 pm

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I can if I'm a hypocrite. :)
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:51 pm

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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:56 pm

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I'll consider going for the Jargonaut replacement (even though it's kind of a dick move). Is that good with you?
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:26 pm

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That slot being scum wouldn't surprise me.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:40 pm

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Posting for replacements
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:49 pm

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In post 378, Rubicon wrote:sorry to see you go Jargonaut. :(


Honey bee: What do you think of ZZZX?

ZZZX: Could you give me your top 3 scum reads?

VOTE: ZZZX

I shall do that later.
Implosion: I see ZZZX was
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The Bulge: ZZZX is ZZZX
Get to know a ZZZX: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=58733
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:55 pm

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Mist7676 replaces Holder of the Heel.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:56 pm

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I smell le mist.
Implosion: I see ZZZX was
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Get to know a ZZZX: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=58733
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:33 pm

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In post 389, ZZZX wrote:I smell le mist.

Should I be wearing perfume?

I'll read tomorrow~
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:42 am

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Unvote, vote Jargonaut
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:19 am

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@unsight: I actually did catch your claim, I was just wondering about the reasoning behind your vote. I maybe get it now, but I can't get behind buddying part. Do you usually have a distaste for strong town reads? And what's the reasoning on your other reads?

@citrus: My meta is pretty much the same across alignments playstyle wise (low post count, catch up posts that pressures others on reads) due to my schedule. I think some of the things i do as scum are have weaker reads in an less amount, and usually try to ignore my partner. In fact I rarely read my partners posts (5-10% maybe). As far as i am aware, those are the only differences.

@stigmata: To me, most of his posts seemed to be aimed at either the claiming topic or just having skepticism towards other people's reads. I didn't feel like any of the questions towards others were meant to determine alignment, and when he spent a large paragraph talking about ika's read, I felt it suspicious that he wasn't also directing his energy at anyone to determine their alignment. Hence why I asked them who they would be voting for then, because I wanted to know who (if anyone) they would be pressuring.

@rubicon: my opinion of zzzx is that he ignored critical discussion to comment on trivial things and then laid a reasonless vote (in my eyes) on me instead of providing a real reason or vote. The fact that he ignored me again just confirms my opinion on him. What made you vote zzzx now?

@abr: are you voting jarg because she replaced out..?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:22 am

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I'm down with bandwagonning the slot.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:34 am

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Ah i see. the slot's holding the bomb though, are we voting to show approval of detonating or are we actually considering lynching? I could probably support their death unless the replacement has something good to say.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:57 am

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All roads lead to Rome.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:07 am

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You pop in at the strangest times ABR.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:11 am

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Yeahhh, the cryptic comments aren't really doing it for me.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:37 am

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The bomb could blow him up or we could lynch him, the result will be the same.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:43 am

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Except for his role and alignment being lost to us forever. That is very different.

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