This Jargonaut is using hypocrisy of the highest degree; like me he has no spaces in his name.
It is my only conclusion that he should be the lynch for today, as it is impossible for him to have a town alignment
VOTE: Jargonaut
Why not?In post 22, Riptide wrote:Burning_Earth- Why the third vote on Egg on pg1?
Also "moar things that could come from scum or town"In post 120, T S O wrote:It's natural that your suspicion of Cho is fading; she's lurking out the pressure like a true scumfuck.
Oh and fuck great social skills thereIn post 123, T S O wrote:Yeah, your reading comprehension's even worse than I thought; you're not just somewhat stupid, you're borderline illiterate.
@ your first pointIn post 119, T S O wrote:Spoiler: The Votes That Made Them Unlynchable
Spoiler: Reaction to Pressure
Spoiler: Voting of TSO
Being very cautious
Yeah, I'd like cho to reveal her identity after this game certainlyIn post 165, MTD wrote:I have to say I can't really buy into someone supposedly being an alt but posting in the newbie introduction thread.
In post 188, Elyse wrote:My point exactly.In post 169, Riptide wrote:Someone please engage me. Apathy is starting to infect me.
TBP - Do you have any other thoughts besides on Cho?
- Dice
Also I'm back to townreading Cho.
barn these postsIn post 231, Elyse wrote:@TSO
I went town->null->town on Cho. I didn't like the post I said I didn't like and then I thought his most recent post outlining his concerns about Jargonaut seemed very townie. I don't necessarily agree with it, but he's taking the initiative and trying to find scum, something Riptide has continued to fail to do.
Also, why does confirmation bias make someone scum?
In post 254, Cho wrote:Didn't see the end of last page. I'll respond to Rubicon whenever I get back online. Busy day.
Oh, and I'm also debating whether or not I should vote Riptide. Partially because I'm kind of tired of their misrepresentative attacks on me, partially because it's the biggest wagon besides mine. Any thoughts? Would you call me out as scummy for being survivalistic, or are Town not allowed to want to avoid guaranteed mislynches?
Bye.
I mean
I disagree, it could easily be faked.In post 325, The Betting Pool wrote:I do like this as a town statement. Which I think egg mentioned already. I find it hard that scum would volunteer this.In post 303, Riptide wrote:Okay, using NK WIFOM to justify a vote on someone is bad. It is the baddest of bads.
By the by, most of our play so far is just dice being dice. And I don't even see how he was that defensive.
Also, I just convinced dice Elyse was scum over night, so now we both have to go back and fix our reads.
-HS
The post that I ed in response to was what made me flip-flop.In post 340, toolenduso wrote:How is that an explanation of your vote?
Yes. I agree with TSO.In post 366, T S O wrote:Oh, yes, that's what I couldn't think of - I want the Elyse-scum argument, Riptide, and I don't want you diluting it from necromancy. In your next post, please.
In post 22, Riptide wrote:Burning_Earth- Why the third vote on Egg on pg1?
In post 43, Riptide wrote:@Cho - So let me get this straight. You made those three unlynchables because of their RVS votes?
- Dice
In post 46, Riptide wrote:I'm bad at this.In post 45, 3dicerolling wrote:So you see them as unlynchable, but not as concrete town?
In post 50, Riptide wrote:What about there RVS votes make you think they should not be lynched today?
- dice
My case on riptide.In post 347, Riptide wrote:I'm not really good with hydras yet. :p
I'm getting too many townreads. Need to talk it over with HS.
Oh this is your elyse caseIn post 309, Riptide wrote:10 RVS means nothing right now.
25 MTD makes an RVS vote. Big deal. Woop-dee-doo he says people OMGUS'd. Is that really enough to deserve a serious vote? Or is it scum trying to look like they're doing something?(Yes, I'm using your own argument against you. Tit for tat.)
63 I've already commented on this one, here's the link- 78
80 Buuut I like being productive and trying to get out of RVS. So I'm going to ask a question to get us out of RVS.
Bad excuse is bad. Nowhere had you mentioned thinking that "them OMGUS's were incredible" was trying to justify anything. You just said he was trying to avoid commentary.
82 This is just WIFOM. There is no other word to describe it.
112 It's. Not. A. Dumb. Question.
114 No, you just said it was dumb. No explanation for it.
156 This post is boring for me. It felt as if it should've happened sooner, honestly.
162 Well, this is the post we're responding to above, so...(and here be it-
The RVS question (While not me, nor my specialty in RVS) actually was not as dumb as you think. It draws reactions, like yours, which was pretty scummy by the way. Considering this is a hydra, and we have to work out our thoughts together, no we did not have much content at the time, but that is changing as the game progresses.
Nowhere were the words "textbook" and "newbscum" used together. I said you were "nearly textbook buddying." To me it looked like that IF Cho flipped town, then you as scum was trying to get credit for calling her a town read. Also, you were defending her, possibly making her think you were town for doing so, simply because of the fact that you "helped" her.
Also, you criticize us for making a question, but the you also criticize us for only attacking certain people. That makes no sense. Also, at the time, the only person we really attacked was you. Everyone else we mentioned was someone we were starting to engage.
188 Yeah, um, I never knew you stopped either.
231 Yeah we are. Look at our interactions with you. Also, I watch and get reads from others' interactions with each other early D1, which is one reason I haven't been very active.
235 This is a weird post. Confirmation bias goes either way. Everybody does it. It's human nature.
237 And just a question that really IS pointless because Elyse isn't being patient.
Sorry, for the formatting of course. You'll definitely want another window open.
B_E is a ninja
Wut?In post 373, BipolarChemist wrote:That sounded quite angry there, Riptide. Defensive much?
I'm more experienced than you sonny Jim.In post 376, BipolarChemist wrote:Your posts suck shit, B_E.
7 completed gamesIn post 380, BipolarChemist wrote:B_E and Dunham reads are definitely separate, I don't think if one flips town my opinion on the other would change, but of course there are things that can change my opinion! (winkwink)
Experience doesn't mean that you're automatically better than me, B_E! Also, I think I've been playing longer than you, maybe?
Wut dice? Wut?In post 408, Riptide wrote:Do I need to think he's scummy to vote him?In post 407, BipolarChemist wrote:This is such an out of left field vote. Other than not being impressed do you think he's scummy?In post 405, Riptide wrote:Vote: Rubicon
I haven't been particularly impressed with anything you've produced so far.
- Dice
Did I not say something about deflection?In post 418, Burning_Earth wrote:ya that vote was kind of bad as well.
I love you BPC!In post 519, BipolarChemist wrote:What way? His immature, cocky way? Have you seen this kid before?In post 465, SleepyKrew wrote:Terrible vote
Not that voting Cho is itself bad. But the way he did it. Ugh
Because he's a dumbass.BRILLIANT EXPLANATIONIn post 276, Burning_Earth wrote:In post 254, Cho wrote:Didn't see the end of last page. I'll respond to Rubicon whenever I get back online. Busy day.
Oh, and I'm also debating whether or not I should vote Riptide. Partially because I'm kind of tired of their misrepresentative attacks on me, partially because it's the biggest wagon besides mine. Any thoughts? Would you call me out as scummy for being survivalistic, or are Town not allowed to want to avoid guaranteed mislynches?
Bye.
(why is he explainingafterthe vote anyway?)
Seems that way because he's a dumbass.so forcedIn post 281, Burning_Earth wrote:That'll teach me to be checking VCs!
I don't expect scum to react like he did. He passed it off as oh oops, my bad. Ignorant and dumb, ya, but I don't think it's scummy.within one minute of the previous postIn post 282, Burning_Earth wrote:Damn
the force is strong with this one
Think about how you would expect scum to react too. Same point as above.Proper town attitude would be "I fucked up. I'll try to do what I can before I'm lynched."In post 292, Burning_Earth wrote:I'm town pinky promise
(DISCLAIMER: THE CORRECT PLAY IS PROBABLY TO LYNCH ME)
I see the opposite here, looks like he's just failing at trying to get attention.Another masterpiece indeed. Looks like someone trying to make some noise and hoping nobody hears what they're actually sayingIn post 370, Burning_Earth wrote:I have removed his "case" from this quote to save space
My case on riptide.
Riptide attacked cho without voting her until other people had.
Another masterpiece from B_E cases TM
He hasn't explained a whole hell of a lot, which is one reason I think he's scummy. You're right here. I kinda took his link thing as more him being a dummy.I don't think he ever explained the underlined part
I think B_E generally plays a very selfish game. Both of the points you made point exactly to this.1. Again, not how town that knows they should die would play. They'd be trying to be as useful as possible.In post 401, Burning_Earth wrote:meh. I still don't see a better wagon.
Dunham wagon is shit. (1)B_E wagon is shit. You'd think I'd have more reads in 17 pages, but (2)I'm not really invested in this game.
2. Bullshit. He was actually pushing Riptide until the heat on himself got turned up.
Sorry for the quote wall. Overall, SK, your argument, to me, feels like something put together without much previous thought. I'm not sure you outwardly called him fully scummy very much here, yet you had such a strong scumread.
Anyways, I'm tired, I'm going to eat and pass out soon. Good night!
I agree with this post except for the bit in which I'm apparently scumIn post 513, SleepyKrew wrote:You seem to be thinking I did:
1. Determined B_E was scum/voted him
2. Read the game
3. Thought of why he was scum
4. Wrote the case
What actually happened:
1. Read the game
2. Thought he was scummy and looked deeper into it
3. Determined he's scum/voted him
4. Wrote the case
5. Had some fried chicken and mashed potatoes
You seem to be tunneling on me? Is that confirmation bias? Or is what you're doing not tunneling?
Also
In post 490, BipolarChemist wrote:B_E just feels like lynch bait to me, an easy lynch without much thought because he's done basically nothing except for a dumb ass quick hammer. I think even my own scum read on him might be more based on that he's an easy lynch target and someone who isn't helpful rather than scummy.
@TSO: I agree that scum would normally give reasoning, where someone giving no reason feels more town, but dunham didn't seem to give a shit either. I think his no reasoning might just be null.How much time does it take to make a waffle? 4 minutesIn post 492, BipolarChemist wrote:I'm not a fan of SleepyKrew analysis of B_E, it feels forced and like he's got a bit of confirmation bias going on.
In post 525, Burning_Earth wrote:In post 519, BipolarChemist wrote:What way? His immature, cocky way? Have you seen this kid before?In post 465, SleepyKrew wrote:Terrible vote
Not that voting Cho is itself bad. But the way he did it. Ugh