The game of the year: town won!

[UberNinja]

sup

[UberNinja]

Out of the two, I would much rather lynch redFF based on what I have seen of each of their play so far.

@ theamatuer: *shudder* ... you just made me afraid to vote for anyone. congratulations.

[UberNinja]

wait, fuck, the day's already over? lol

[UberNinja]

*there's already been a lynch?

(forgot there were more than one lynch per day)

[UberNinja]

Here's an idea: We lynch the first 40 people on the list, no questions asked, and then the remaining 10 scumhunt it out amongst themselves. In all likelihood, getting rid of 80% of the players that quickly will do wonders to get rid of the scum. Unless a large amount of scum are in the last 10 on the list. It could be any of the blocks of 10 players, I don't give a fuck.

[UberNinja]

Vote: The Mini Librarian

[UberNinja]

oh there's jesters? fuck

Vote: The Mini Librarian ANYWAY

[UberNinja]

In other news: UN is now scummy.

then lynch me, bastard

[UberNinja]

Vote: redFF

[UberNinja]

Don't lynch BBmolla. He's a gentleman and a scholar!

[UberNinja]

I am not opposed to an izak death either.

[UberNinja]

ALL the mimes have to be lynched for a mime win?

Wow, harsh.

[UberNinja]

Why the HELL are people

justifying votes on other people

with "Keeping my word" and "I keep my promises"?

It's a fucking

50-player game

and I'll be damned if you need to justify

anything

on Day 1.

FOS on Fritzler and Fluffy. Fuckin fucks.

[UberNinja]

Oh look, a wagon I can jump on.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: T-bone

I still want UberNinja lynched. If this fails, I'm hopping back.

why the fuck do you want me lynched, but you're voting t-bone, who was also voting for me?

looool

[UberNinja]

i'm saying what the oracle would say were she here: you need to make up your damn mind

what you are saying is inconsistent and thus puts you on *my* witch burning list

Unvote; Vote: Luffy

[UberNinja]

chevre's town

[UberNinja]

wait, chevre's voting ME?

FUCK YOU CHEVRE

[UberNinja]

v/la for a while, personal reasons

[UberNinja]

yes! the mimes are gone.

further paving the way for my own sole victory after i kill each and every one of--

... am I saying this out loud?

[UberNinja]

fun fact: there's probably at least 3-4 scum in your 17/43 town reads, t-bone

the odds alone dictate this.

[UberNinja]

off hand i'd say about 8-12

[UberNinja]

Ok, I've done an extensive re-read of the game, and here are my reads on everyone:

Spoiler:

In

this

game? YEAH RIGHT

...admit it, you totally fell for it.

And here are the correlations between possible scum pairs/trios based on my reads:

Spoiler:

The fact that you even

opened

this spoiler speaks poorly to your adaptive learning skills.

On the bright side though, it might say something good about your sense of humor!

[UberNinja]

STOP BEING A KILLJOY BBMOLLA =[

In all seriousness, I'll probably skim the game at some point and place a real vote.
For now though, there's way too much shit flying around for me to give a rat's ass.

[UberNinja]

u mad, Tbone? ;D

[UberNinja]

UberNinja is probably not scum.

and

how the hell

do you know that?

[UberNinja]

There are so many scum this round that they can easily influence (and they will) any attempt to lynch scum. I think a block of five pretty obvious town would actually be effective by this point to counteract this. We should also be looking at wagons that were quickly dissuaded.

One scum joins the voting block. Influences every lynch. no.

you have got to be joking. like one person can influence five other people that strongly, more than once.

the first time they're wrong, they'd lose all credibility.




please tell me you think before you speak, trevor.

[UberNinja]

I think it's likely that scum will attempt to bus today (towncred for leading the only D1 scumlynch etc.). Also, very much doubting the giant scumteam idea as well, as if there were ten or more, they could mislynch. And mislynch. And mislynch.

Anyway, starting with Page 12:


Uber's #297 would be completely pointless as scum, and would only serve purpose as a Mime.

BB's 315 sucks

Fritzler has said after both of the first two lynches that he will keep his word to Hoopla and vote redFF, but he keeps backing out of it until Hoopla disagrees with it. Not really telling, just fucked up. If redFF is scum, though, Fritzler dies ASAP.

BB's 325 fucks up all of my reads on him. No idea on BB anymore, he just needs to be vigged ASAP

izak's 345 makes me think redFF is town, at least from his actual judgement. He's playing to get lynched, he realizes that redFF is about to be called obvtown, and he calls him scum.

Milk's posts are bad in general, and I wouldn't mind lynching him.

Post 394 is full of win. The guy who posted that post deserves a medal.

Luffy's 400 reads unnecessary and therefore gut town.

Matt's 406 wouldn't be so cocky if he were scum.

Kairyuu's 437 fits with his Dayvig ability and seems to be looking for a reason to shoot somebody. Kairyuu can be town.

T-Bone's 443. First of all all of his town reads suck, so he has that going for him. Second, it's hard to believe that the first thing he thinks of is a voting bloc, not just a list of town reads. Leans scum.

Hoopla's 467 refusal to give real reason is town, plus she has a good point.

T-Bone adding me on his town list for no apparent reason other than others calling me town is suspect, and I don't particularly believe his reasoning after. (plus, his reads still suck)

Matt's 524 practically confirms him as town. Unless T-Bone is scum, in which case, he'll still be a pretty big town read.

I'm disappointed by Zdenek's play. Zdenek, you should pick it up.

Does Fritzler always play like he's playing? I feel like he was trying to look like a Mime before the Mimes died.

Milk's 619 has no scum motivation at all.

TeCh's posts are full of town.

I can tell that manho is likely to be completely useless and should die soon. But unfortunately, he's also likely to be town.

I'm scared of Luffy being a "hammerer" third party or something of the sort. I suggest we don't allow Luffy any hammers anymore. but seriously.

Kairyuu's claim rocks, and he's town unless he's some fucked up third party.

---

So, reads list, from most town to least town:

MOST DEFINITELY TOWN

callforjudgement
MattP
Kairyuu
petapan
UberNinja
Hoopla
redFF

LIKELY TOWN

TeCh
Luffy
PeregrineV
imaginality
manho

NO FUCKING CLUE

Milk
zajnet, Staeg, sykedoc, theamatuer, Lupo, funkybike1, SKrew, Robotnick, CC, dramonic, TheTrollie, Elmo TeH AzN, Zoraster, Trevor, Ellibereth, Chronopie, & YYR
Amrun, NS, SpyreX, MoS

SOMEWHAT SCUMMY

syndrome
Chevre
BBmolla

SCUMMY

Rhinox
Zdenek
T-Bone
Fritzler

VOTE: Fritzler

seems legit

Vote: Fritzler

[UberNinja]

i'm not town because i'm not trying? hahhahahahahahahahaha

[UberNinja]

STOP BEING A KILLJOY BBMOLLA =[

In all seriousness, I'll probably skim the game at some point and place a real vote.

For now though, there's way too much shit flying around for me to give a rat's ass.

[UberNinja]

It'll have to be tomorrow because I sure as hell don't have time for this today.

[UberNinja]

<3 imaginality and hoopla, glad somebody gets it.

a few questions before I begin:

1. why are both t-bone and fritzler omgus voting me? fritzler has admitted as much, but t-bone is trying to pretend to be town. ugh
2. what exactly do you expect me to contribute at this point? solid reads? anything other than slaphappy humor/semi-trolling? and why?
3. what do all of the lynches so far have in common? they were popular? they were because of scumminess? what's the link between?

i'll be back in a while with some thoughts. in the mean time, i would lynch t-bone in a heartbeat

but i think fritzler needs more pressure before anyone is lynched

[UberNinja]

also, damn you guys for making me put effort into this game.

i was hoping i could slither around and bite people all day without anyone getting their panties in a twist but noooooooo

[UberNinja]

Ok, I've done an extensive re-read of the game, and here are my reads on everyone:

Spoiler:

In

this

game? YEAH RIGHT

...admit it, you totally fell for it.

And here are the correlations between possible scum pairs/trios based on my reads:

Spoiler:

The fact that you even

opened

this spoiler speaks poorly to your adaptive learning skills.

On the bright side though, it might say something good about your sense of humor!

STOP BEING A KILLJOY BBMOLLA =[

In all seriousness, I'll probably skim the game at some point and place a real vote.
For now though, there's way too much shit flying around for me to give a rat's ass.

In case anyone missed UN admitting to trolling...here you go. Lynch it with FIRE

Why would that have anything to do with being scum or not?

I asked you a question, T-Bone.

@Amrun - Because trolling is anti-town.

What? How? I asked how it's INDICATIVE OF SCUM, and you answered so vaguely. You're just latching onto obnoxious behavior and hoping you can get a mislynch out of it.

VOTE: T-Bone

Vote: trevor

I also like this vote.

Well I'm going on V/la. Might get a post or two in tomorrow late night. On that note, silly BBmolla, not Town cat, Vanilla Townie.

EDIT: I answered your fucking question Armun. I'll answer it again. UN's behavior is anti-town. Thus he is anti-town. I'm getting fucking frustrated with your blatant retard-like reading ability.

I didn't ask if he was anti-town. You didn't say, "We should lynch Uber Ninja because he's anti-town." You said that he is SCUM. You repeatedly refused to answer my question as to why his behavior makes him scum.

Did I mention that I love thi sexchange with a fiery passion?

Well, I love it with a fiery passion.

[UberNinja]

But then I'm playing against my Scum wincon by getting vigged

It's like I'm town who doesn't give a shit because his death is meaningless due to numbers

UNVOTE:
VOTE: redff

@Izak:

Just baiting scum/idiots. MattP is idiot. Johhog is scum. Trollie is probably just new.

sup, MY PHILOSOPHY THIS GAME. what are you doing in bbmolla's post

[UberNinja]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Izak

Yup

@Milk:

Your reads don't make sense to me, but the reads you have are on nonactive people allowing you to give many reads while hiding in the back. Obviously guessing SK is a bit silly, but to me it doesn't seem like you're part of a groupscum.
Don't know how to explain, doesn't really matter at the moment, just keep talking and stuff.

Peta is town btw

It's also possible Milk is town with ludicrous reads.

Luffy: UN is possible buddying-me scum, but Izak is more obvious atm. And I don't believe Izak is mime.

Nah I like SpyreX :/

Hoopla Izak is scum here, furrealz.

Is petapan a redFF alt?

Haaha lol this made me laugh

Yea. Just wanted to point that out. Nothing to say in this second. Maybe in a second or two I will

Red and Izak, thoughts on both.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: red

Just do this so we can move on

@Hoopla:

Fair enough.

@Muffin:

Fair enough, it's just bait for scum, but as long as you agree Izak is scum and Red is just policy we good.

@SpyreX:

I actually think Milk is either SK or Town, which is strange, but I don't really want them dead atm. Their reads shouldn't cause any issues with getting the correct lynches atm.

Matt is town yeah.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Izak

That was bullshit by the way.

"HEY EVERYONE JOIN THIS RED WAGON"
"For fucks sake, Izak is scum just finish Red off so we can stop derping."
"OMG BB IS SCUM EVERYONE OFF RED IS TOWN"

The fuck guys.

This is why Izak is scummy folks, because he actually believes the Red lynch is anything but policy.

Are you guys ignoring everything I say?(Inb4 "yes")

you certainly say IZAK IS SCUM often enough, but you're a little slim on the WHY HE'S SCUM aspect

is there really no other reason than the one in 432 why he should be lynched?

[UberNinja]

Re the izak wagon: you're wagoning him for his meta. This doesn't mean that he isn't scum; it just means that what he's done so far isn't a scumtell for him, it's null. (I seem to remember him doing something incredibly rash on day 1 of an election-based game before even reading the role PM; I can't remember the exact name.) Arguably this means he makes a good policy lynch, but we have other more policy-lynchable people around, also actual scum.

...I've made it very clear why I think he's scum.

No, you'd made it very clear THAT you think he's scum, you had said virtually nothing about the WHY part

[UberNinja]

VOTE: Uberninja

Peta is town btw

It's also possible Milk is town with ludicrous reads.

Luffy: UN is possible buddying-me scum, but Izak is more obvious atm. And I don't believe Izak is mime.

It's one of izak or BBmolla today. Not both. Decide people.

Though UberNinja should be before them both.

Why not both of us?

Agreed on UN, he should probably die soon.

T-Bone vote Izak, UN is next.

Hoopla I jumped on earlier, then jumped off for Izak, noted how Red wagon was getting in the way so tried to finish it so it'd stop wasting time, then jumped back to Izak.

Town wagon = He's scum or that is composed of town people?

VOTE: Uberninja

UN stop being scum

Could you at least pretend to try to be town

Mimes are dead you don't have any excuse any more

Wait, wait.

Okay, coalitions are dumb. Let's disband them.

Hoopla, I want to join your coalition to disband coalitions.

UberNinja is probably not scum.

p-edit: Also getting town vibes off of BBmolla.

I'm a day cop.

I have a scumread on UN as I've stated, I'm just waiting to see if this is a legit claim or just a joke.

P-Edit: Stop being me damnit.

T-Bone are you policy lynching UN or do you think he's scum

UN do you have any reads at all

I hate you UN.

VOTE: Uberninja

Done with this shit, he is NOT town.

Here you are again, doing that shit with the PLAYER X IS SCUM but nothing of the WHY

Coming from you, who had THIS read on redFF, that seems a little hypocritical don't you think? hmmmm?

Izak is scummy [...] because he actually believes the Red lynch is anything but policy.

If you're saying MY lynch is anything but policy (lynch anti-town people who are having fun at others' expense)...

...then what does that make you?

[UberNinja]

callforjudgement is probtown.

at first i thought he might be scum trying to get brownie points by helping with vote counts, but this post sealed it for me:

On the Vig shooting argument: I remember hearing someone saying something about a Mafia Doctor?

In that case, I think the Vig(s) should either shoot BBmolla OR IceGuy.

Fine, add Johhog into the pool. IceGuy, BBmolla, or Johhog.

It's probably best not to try to form vig pools in situations where you have multiple vigs and expect them all to be town, or acting as town. (If a killing role isn't acting as town, then they aren't a vig.) I've been thinking about directing from pools, and decided that it's only a good idea either as part of a breaking strategy, or when you suspect some of the people you're directing are fakeclaiming scum and want to have a reasonable chance of overlapping targets.

In this case, overlapping vig targets are bad; we want as many town-directed kills overnight as possible, rather than kills on just the obvious targets. This means that although vigs should feel free to aim for obvious targets, they should also feel free to spread their shots around if they have a hunch; we'll have more dead scum on average that way, and also more dead townies who would have wasted mislynches. (If someone's going to be lynched anyway and you vig them, and the lynch that would have been used on them instead hits scum, that's just as good.)

[UberNinja]

^ seriously, what scum says that. that's town to the core

[UberNinja]

Hmm, just noticed that you idiots have managed to kill off 8 town players so far. Good fucking job, lmfao...

6 of them are anti-town fyi. The mimes are jesters, and we lynched one of them (oops). However, he lost because we daykilled another. (Well, kariyuu daykilled him). So you should probably read the god damn game before you critique us.

QFT, shut the hell up MoS

[UberNinja]

Meh.

UberNinja isn't putting any effort in, or trying to scumhunt, or anything like that. And I've seen him do that before in other games. If he's town, he's useless, and the only reason I didn't do this earlier was people telling me he was town.

VOTE: UberNinja

lol. what the hell?

right when i start "putting effort in", i get voted for not "putting any effort in?" rofl

go back and read my last few posts dude

[UberNinja]

is there really no other reason than the one in 432 why he should be lynched?

Nope.

You act like it's a bad reason. It's a fucking awesome and legit reason to think someone is scum.

You're scum for ignoring my attempts to get you to play the fucking game, and knowing what you're capable of, YES THAT IS SCUMMY MY COMPADRE.

Ok, I've done an extensive re-read of the game, and here are my reads on everyone:

Spoiler:

In

this

game? YEAH RIGHT

...admit it, you totally fell for it.

And here are the correlations between possible scum pairs/trios based on my reads:

Spoiler:

The fact that you even

opened

this spoiler speaks poorly to your adaptive learning skills.

On the bright side though, it might say something good about your sense of humor!

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS? "Oh man UN is town because he's so silly." NO. THAT AIN'T HAPPENIN BOY.

It's cool that you're "trying" now, but to me it looks like all you've done is looked through my ISO and tried to push a shitty point on me.

Meanwhile, what's the case for UberNinja-town? I've seen him as town before (reading a game, I wasn't in the game myself), and he wasn't playing nearly this badly. I'd be willing to vote him, but some people I trust this game are saying he's town, so I'd like to hear the other side of the story.

He is scum hiding behind the facade of not giving a shit.

CFG does his recent shit really trump all his old shit.

...

1. I didn't mean to imply that it was a bad reason at all. I meant to imply that it was a

hypocritical

reason, because you are now doing the exact same thing you voted izak for, which is, pretending you're lynching me because I'm scum, and not just because I'm goofing around and trying to elicit reactions.

2. I was

pretty clearly

pissing around when I made those trolling spoilers... do I even have to explain myself there?

3. I'm not trying to push a case on you. I happen to think you're town. I'm asking you questions, trying to put you in a position where you realize that what you're doing isn't exactly the most town way you could be playing, because you actually seemed to be trying to be pro-town at that point, unlike me.

tl;dr: I'm town. You're town. I've mostly stopped goofing off at this point, so you need to stop acting like a moron.

Ciao

[UberNinja]

Err, and I keep forgetting that if I type in "quick reply", it goes and puts everything I have in multiquote at the start of my post without warning. Sorry about that, everyone. (I think that only lists five of them there.)

Wait, what? Please explain how that works. All i know how to do is click Q+, Q+, Q+, and then Quote, and it will quote all 4 posts.

[UberNinja]

Can anyone please see how opportunistic T-bone's votes have been all game, and how when you really get down to them, they are all crap and just sheeping or opportunistic?

Vote: Mini Librarian

Posts #38 and #39 say it all for me.

Okay. Needs to die by lynch...
UberNinja
Izak
Petapan

Vote: UberNinja

Needs to die by other means
IceGuy

Town voting block
Me
Spyrex
Rhinox
Amrun
Chevre
errr...I need to go back and check all that. I should make notes.

Thank you Call, Izak needs to go.

unvote, Vote: Izak

UberNinja or Petapan next please.

Here's the players with one post in the game, omitting Amrun because her one post has more content then everyone in the One-Line gallery, and I read her as town. I wish she'd post more...

Captain Corporal, Robotnick2, funkybike1, Ellibereth, sykedoc - all have 1 post.

If that's what you wanted there you go. CC just came in to vote Chesskid. Funkybike just confirmed his role. Elli just said "WTF". Robotnick just quoted Izak about hammering lynches. Sykedoc just confirmed.

Dramonic has two posts, one for a policy vote, one to ask how mimes lose.

From there it's about picking and choosing which players tried to add content, and which players continue to spam without content. So someone like Imaginality has 3 posts, but I think they are pretty good, as opposed to Sleepykrew's 3, which offer nothing, Moneybags at 8, which are crap, or Matt at 66 which are 98% crap.

Moneybags is as good of a vote as any.

Unvote, Vote: Moneybags

While that wagon is building slowly, we have one more lynch today. Perhaps we use this last lynch to take out someone who is scummy and posting a lot as opposed to another lurker. Who knows, maybe the night phase will allow some of those low posters to catch up and give some actual content Day 2.

I can get behind a Uberninja lynch Hoopla. His last couple of posts were just him claiming he's not going to do anything but troll. We don't need that, trolling is anti-town. I wanted to try and push Matt or Petapan here, but we can't have admitted trolls wandering around unfortunately.

Vote: Uberninja

agreed! good point

unvote; vote: t-bone

Spoiler:

you could say the same about me to an extent, hell even this very vote, but i'll be damned if it doesn't apply to t-bone even more.

[UberNinja]

trololol spoilers have already been done, try something new

[UberNinja]

ITT MattP falls for SpyreX's pro buddying skills like a complete patsy

[UberNinja]

Can anyone please see how opportunistic T-bone's votes have been all game, and how when you really get down to them, they are all crap and just sheeping or opportunistic?

Vote: Mini Librarian

Posts #38 and #39 say it all for me.

Okay. Needs to die by lynch...
UberNinja
Izak
Petapan

Vote: UberNinja

Needs to die by other means
IceGuy

Town voting block
Me
Spyrex
Rhinox
Amrun
Chevre
errr...I need to go back and check all that. I should make notes.

Thank you Call, Izak needs to go.

unvote, Vote: Izak

UberNinja or Petapan next please.

Here's the players with one post in the game, omitting Amrun because her one post has more content then everyone in the One-Line gallery, and I read her as town. I wish she'd post more...

Captain Corporal, Robotnick2, funkybike1, Ellibereth, sykedoc - all have 1 post.

If that's what you wanted there you go. CC just came in to vote Chesskid. Funkybike just confirmed his role. Elli just said "WTF". Robotnick just quoted Izak about hammering lynches. Sykedoc just confirmed.

Dramonic has two posts, one for a policy vote, one to ask how mimes lose.

From there it's about picking and choosing which players tried to add content, and which players continue to spam without content. So someone like Imaginality has 3 posts, but I think they are pretty good, as opposed to Sleepykrew's 3, which offer nothing, Moneybags at 8, which are crap, or Matt at 66 which are 98% crap.

Moneybags is as good of a vote as any.

Unvote, Vote: Moneybags

While that wagon is building slowly, we have one more lynch today. Perhaps we use this last lynch to take out someone who is scummy and posting a lot as opposed to another lurker. Who knows, maybe the night phase will allow some of those low posters to catch up and give some actual content Day 2.

I can get behind a Uberninja lynch Hoopla. His last couple of posts were just him claiming he's not going to do anything but troll. We don't need that, trolling is anti-town. I wanted to try and push Matt or Petapan here, but we can't have admitted trolls wandering around unfortunately.

Vote: Uberninja

agreed! good point

unvote; vote: t-bone

Spoiler:

you could say the same about me to an extent, hell even this very vote, but i'll be damned if it doesn't apply to t-bone even more.

[UberNinja]

this luffy thing seems scum-driven

as in, t-bone/spyrex driven

just saiyan

[UberNinja]

why would i try to drive a wagon off my scumbuddy

i voted luffy earlier based on sheeping spyrex but something about spyrex/tbone combo has left a bad taste in my mouth

this is why i am voting for tbone atm

[UberNinja]

someone has way too many words on one page

[UberNinja]

do you think spyrex is scum and t-bone is town, techno?

if so, what the hell are you thinking?

[UberNinja]

Vote count please mod?

CC, Elmo and Spyrex, all much better lynches than T-Bone.

T-Bone lynch should not be happening.

Unvote
Vote: CC

Would rather an Elmo or Spyrex lynch, but CC is MUCH better than T-Bone.

Staeg, did you reply to my post yet?

Gotta run to uni. Again, mod, votecount please.

Come on the fucking let's go 1v1

VOTE: Techno

Come on the fucking let's go 1v1

Come on the fucking

what is this

i dont even

[UberNinja]

Oh for fucks sake T-bone Nice OMGUS analysis there. No really, you deserve some kind of medal for doing it so unsubtly.

"Here, let me take all the people on my wagon... AND CALL THEM SCUM! LOL, super awesome scum-hunting skills!"

Where exactly did T-Bone say this?

Where exactly have you been reading?

[UberNinja]

VOTE: Chesskid
This is lynch #1

Still reading :X
VOTE: T-Bone

That moment where I'm called lurking scum and 3 people have less posts than me. Not sure where those people on my wagon got their BS logic from.

If the Captain Corporal wagon isn't the epitome of a useless scum-driven wagon, then I don't know what is.

Whoever wants CC lynched over T-Bone is either scum or a fucking retard.

[UberNinja]

looks like legit scumhunting to me (even if inspired by OMGUS).

there's no such thing.

[UberNinja]

To put it bluntly, OMGUSing is pretty low on my scumdar, but its still on there. T-Bone has been OMGUSing, but I'm not going to lynch him over that, and his scumhunting, while poorly motivated, is better than most of his wagon have managed to achieve.

That doesn't mean he's not scum though.

[UberNinja]

Muffin's play has been fine, and we are not lynching him because of who he's an alt of.

Stop being stupid.

[UberNinja]

FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU DIE

cool your jets lady

[UberNinja]

Vote: T-Bone

[UberNinja]

YYR is useless.

;_;

I'm just wondering why someone would claim something like that from nowhere.

Maybe because it's true.

Do you have anything else to add to The game of the year?

[UberNinja]

Too bad it's at L-1 and anyone who's not hammering is SCUM

[UberNinja]

"very bad"

[UberNinja]

with all that is in my heart i want to punch you in the face for being so consarn thick.

Here's an idea: We lynch the first 40 people on the list, no questions asked, and then the remaining 10 scumhunt it out amongst themselves. In all likelihood, getting rid of 80% of the players that quickly will do wonders to get rid of the scum. Unless a large amount of scum are in the last 10 on the list. It could be any of the blocks of 10 players, I don't give a fuck.

not sure if this is a real suggestion, seems very dumb to me.

lynching according to what the crowd wants, when the crowd is supposedly full of scum, is a bad idea.

lynching according to "you're next on the list, bye" is much less susceptible to scum influence.

Why the HELL are people

justifying votes on other people

with "Keeping my word" and "I keep my promises"?

It's a fucking

50-player game

and I'll be damned if you need to justify

anything

on Day 1.

FOS on Fritzler and Fluffy. Fuckin fucks.

the justifications quoted are not justifications at all, then you criticize them for not having justifications

no stupid, i criticized them for HAVING justifications. and for MAKING them.

you really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

UberNinja is probably not scum.

and

how the hell

do you know that?

(1) why are you asking about this (2) very aggressive (aggressive a lot in this game. does ayone who has played with UN before have something to say about if this level of aggression is normal?)

(1) because, (2) hell yes i am

In other news: UN is now scummy.

then lynch me, bastard

Verry aggressive defense. very scummy

how is that scummy? he backed off pretty fucking quick, don't you agree? it was EFFECTIVE was what it was.

Re the izak wagon: you're wagoning him for his meta. This doesn't mean that he isn't scum; it just means that what he's done so far isn't a scumtell for him, it's null. (I seem to remember him doing something incredibly rash on day 1 of an election-based game before even reading the role PM; I can't remember the exact name.) Arguably this means he makes a good policy lynch, but we have other more policy-lynchable people around, also actual scum.

...I've made it very clear why I think he's scum.

No, you'd made it very clear THAT you think he's scum, you had said virtually nothing about the WHY part

I thought the why part wasn't important in a game this large to you

VOTE: UberNinja

it's NOT important. what's important was that HE LIED about having provided "the why".

which reminds me:

vote: BBmolla

trollie, you're way, waaay too stupid to be scum. onto the town list you go

[UberNinja]

But what you're all missing is that Luffy can't be bussing me because... wait for it... I'm town.

[UberNinja]

Why did you just change your mind about Elmo and semi-change your mind about Tech? Make a post with words and make the words mean something. "Whoops I really meant X" IN THE SAME POST went out of style back when... well, back when stating standalone conclusions instead of past hypotheses THEN conclusions came into style.

Additionally:

Based on your "(assuming one scum team)" part, I'm assuming that you know there's more than one scum team, and you're trying to distance yourself from the fact that you know there's more than one so you'll be a less attractive cross-kill target.

Additionally:

Good job buddying up to Amrun. If she were making anything other than an obvious point this wouldn't be so bad. But as it is... well...

[UberNinja]

votecount

luffy (3): spyrex, staeg, TechnoWC
BBmolla (3): theamateur, uberninja, zajnet
amrun (2): MattP, BBmolla
PeregrineV (1): Hoopla
lowman (1): amrun, elmo teh azn
RedFF (1): Lowman
PeregrineV (1): trevor
YYR (1): RedFF
Spyrex (1): callforjudgement
Trever (1): PeregrineV

@Mod, can you combine my two better halves- I have a line for each vote on me. thx!
And lowman has two votes if they both count.

Nominate

PeregrineV

for

Vote Count Police

[UberNinja]

More BBmolla votes...

and SpyreX, make yourself useful please. tia

[UberNinja]

Isn't callforjudgement enough? He subtly made himself unlynchable at the moment because of those useful votecounts.

Isn't callforjudgement enough? He subtly made himself unlynchable at the moment because of those useful votecounts.

Yea, I mean this risk of lynching him

is

great, considering we'll be losing those helpful votecounts*

*Unless he agrees to continue on doing them even after being lynched (Call, you should totally agree to this!)

what the hell is going on

is this real life?

[UberNinja]

What? We are speculating whether CFJ is using those votecounts as means of gaining town-cred and if they are really necessary. I think he is town, but whatever.

Unvote; Vote: Trevor

I refuse to watch youtube videos until those stupid fucking political ads are removed.

have fun with that, you'll be waiting a long fucking time...

[UberNinja]

SOAD why do you hate it

I think in general posts like "good posting/A+/good job" etc. that only serve to compliment the poster usually come from scum.

Not even close.

Spoiler:

-1 / Bad posting / Bad job / F- to you sir!

[UberNinja]

Explain how me questioning these extra votecounts leads to me being scum, Uberninja. I really want to hear this.

Is that so? Well, alright then.

You

yourself

are bringing into question his alignment, based on something as thin as providing extra votecounts. You don't want people to get credit for doing good things. You want everyone to look equally scummy and equally possible for mislynch.

Yes, he's doing votecounts (he's done 23 of them, for the record) but out of his 62 posts thus far that leaves 39 posts remaining, and that's more than at least 30 people in the game (some of which are dead, but etc -- there are only 16 people with more posts), so I'm not sure where you're trying to find fault with him.

Is it because he's providing a service to us for free, and you don't think we should be appreciative because he's only doing it for town cred?
Or is it the more obvious reason: because he's using the vote counts as an excuse for lurking, and hasn't provided any real content so far?

Because neither of those reasons are true.

And you bringing it up and trying to paint him as scummy for either of them is not only retarded, it's scummy as hell.

I'm glad you "really want to hear this", because I "really wanted to explain it to you".

[UberNinja]

Yes, because people are really going to avoid voting someone they think is scum just because they'll *gasp!* lose the free vote counts and have to wait for the actual MOD to do it!

I'm rolling around in my mind the idea of you being town and just stupid, but then I've seen stupid scum get written off for their stupidity before, and they lasted way too long (one was my scum buddy in my first game here) and even if you're town, that ridiculous level of stupid shouldn't be allowed to survive to cause damage later in the game.

The earlier you die, the better. If you're scum, which is likely, it's just bonus.

[UberNinja]

Exactly. Luffy sees it.

[UberNinja]

Luffy who are you an alt of please? I don't remember seeing it.

[UberNinja]

Well, it's not like I could meta you anyway, because I've never heard of you or Westeros.
I just care if you're somebody I have played with before.

Trevor, my posts and my continuance to vote you answered your question before it was even asked. Stop trying to make discussion where there isn't discussion. You're either scum or you're stupid enough that getting rid of you is a great choice. If you don't want to be considered stupid, don't act stupid.

[UberNinja]

Trevor dying inexplicably would be grand.

GRAND, I tell you.

[UberNinja]

Hi, I'm an idiot.

Vote: UberNinja

What? Why?

VOTE: Peregrine

Found scum.

What? Why?

[UberNinja]

FYI: Trevor is actually probably town based on post 1682. SpyreX, I just can't tell... I'm not getting town vibes and I'm not getting real scum vibes either. Third party does sound about right for him. BBmolla still needs to die. Very badly. I am ambivalent on Lowman atm; I will read him more.

Luffy seems very, very, very town to me, and I wouldn't lynch him if you paid me with cake, cookies, sex, milk chocolate eggs, or actual real money.

[UberNinja]

Oh. Well that was easy. There's only 5 Lowman posts. That also explains why I hadn't had an opinion on him yet.

If nobody can articulate a fucking good reason why he's scum, I'm going to start hunting out of the Lowman wagon because if he's not obv scum for something I'm missing, then it's guaranteed there are at least 1 if not 2 scum out of his wagon of 4. And them's pretty damn good odds.

Sorry for absence during day 1, game is moving faster than I'd anticipated..

But based on the part I've read I do agree with the current lynch target.

VOTE: T-bone

Ouch, another alt slip.. sorry it happened Luffy. Thanks for the link to that post though, I remember seeing it but then couldn't find it when I went looking.

Just hope I can avoid the same fate.. though it shouldn't be hard as all my active games atm are on this name. (I am an alt, as I said in the signup thread..)

And for the record, yes I have inherited Lupo's spot.

T-bone is at L-2 I believe after my vote. Let's see more votes people.

Oh, FFS.

Someone deserves rope for that...

And is lucky I'm not a role with a kill ability.

VOTE: Kondi2424

Yeah I agree, I over-reacted...

And based on my own past experience with him, I'm fine with a redFF PL even if he's town. In a game this big we can still afford plenty of VT mislynches.

UNVOTE: Kondi2424

VOTE: redFF

Yeah I agree, I over-reacted...

And based on my own past experience with him, I'm fine with a redFF PL even if he's town. In a game this big we can still afford plenty of VT mislynches.

UNVOTE: Kondi2424

VOTE: redFF

Oh god are you an alt of someone I was mean to in GD too?

No, my opinion is based on a game we were both in.. I won't give specifics cause it has the potential to out who I am, which would be a Bad Thing™

Taking a break from the game now as I am technically on v/la (as declared in my other ongoing games) I will return Friday.

That's it. I'm not seeing anything overtly scummy.

Lowman, who are you an alt of, please?

[UberNinja]

luffy's town. so that's 1 or 2 ot of amrun, elmo, and peregrine who are scum

bank on it

[UberNinja]

VOTE: lowman

Let's lynch the lurkers. let's lynch all the lurkers.

Not sure lynching lurkers will get us anywhere. You feel it is hard to find scum in this setup, yet you think lynching lurkers will help us hit scum?

Still, lowman is a PL loving, wagon jumping, happy to kill town lurker scummy.

I don't mind thinning him and seeing what we get; good chance he is one of the scummy lurkers.

Unvote
Vote: Lowman

This is a bad post.

No it's not.

[UberNinja]

Well, it IS a bad post, but not necessarily indicative of scum intent.

[UberNinja]

There's no case on Lowman. Lowman isn't getting lynched.

Move along... *stormtrooper hand wave*... move along...

[UberNinja]

I just saw SpyreX's sig. Out of 110 games, you've only been third party once? Lo siento.

Also yeah Luffy is town and you're on some kind of cocaine if you think he's not.

[UberNinja]

NS! I thought you were already voting for me, sugar.

What is this redundancy?

[UberNinja]

Wait, Luffy is dead? What the fuck people.

Let me guess. He was town.

[UberNinja]

Yep.

You morons.

[UberNinja]

How the hell are we supposed to win this damn game if you imbeciles keep lynching townies left and right?

I'VE GOT AN IDEA: LISTEN TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS FUCKING SAID THE LAST THREE WAGONS WERE ON TOWN.

My lynch list includes the following:

SpyreX
BBmolla
Rhinox
zoraster
Fritzler

When I die, see that they die too.


p-edit: thanks, Trevor.

[UberNinja]

here's a useful version of Trevor's 1799, by mislynch votes:

on 4 mislynches
rhinox
tbone (dead)
bbmolla

on 3 mislynches
spyrex (might as well be 4 because he pushed luffy's lynch even though he wasn't on teh wagon)
theamatuer
fritz
imaginality
elmo
mattp

on 2 mislynches
hoopla
milk
amrun
ellibereth
uberninja
luffy
muffin wed
staeg
technowc

single wagon players:
captain corporal
agar
johhog
nobody special
chevre
dramonic
izak
iceguy
TML
syndrome
redff
peregrineV
YYR
sleepykrew
kondi
thetrollie
lowman
petapan
zdenek
chronopie
kairyuu
callforjudgement


i would also take a look at people who unvoted right before wagon fruition (the reason being they didn't want any paper trail if someone did a list like this)...

and for people who perpetually sit on counter-wagons to the main wagon (a favorite scum tell of mine, but don't tell anyone)

[UberNinja]

Vote: imaginality

dude's been on 3 mislynch wagons according to the vote counts, but only has 8 posts to his name

LYNCH THE BASTARD

[UberNinja]

I'm a day cop.

was this ever substantiated or otherwise?

[UberNinja]

to answer whoever's question (BBmolla's i think) I actually have a pretty strong town read on Amrun due to a very recent ISO

(i just finished it, that's how recent it is)

[UberNinja]

nobody special is scummy as hell but i have found out that he's just always scummy as hell and it doesn't necessarily mean he's scum.

he'd be good to lynch before day 5 or so but i can't see a lynch wagon on him being fruitful at this point because he literally holds no sway and nobody's going to sheep him. additionally, if he's town he's playing to his meta.

i don't like spyrex. i don't like imaginality. i don't like bbmolla. we can lynch there first.

[UberNinja]

SpyreX won't touch the Lowman wagon with a 10-foot pole because he's scared of being on another mislynch.

Vote: SpyreX

[UberNinja]

p-edit: @ kondi... uhhh wtf... no, he goes today. stop being stupid.

Spy's been obvious scum for a long time, but everyone's been too

lazy

afraid to do anything about it.

Agreed. It is time for a SpyreX lynch.

lowman is town.
NS is scummy, but he is always scummy, so idk.
amrun is town.
kondi is likely scum.
spyrex is strange, but he is the powerful wizard. i would rather sheep him than go against him.

No, kondi is town.

Did you really not read kondi's post about people not wanting to vote SpyreX? Because you just exemplified it.

but spyrex is voting amrun. i think she is town. so i really don't know what to do.

Hint: Vote Spyrex.

Wagoners and quick lynchers must love this game. 10 votes out of 38, just over a quarter. And the rest sit by and watch the mayhem unfold.

Too true. Damn this setup.

VOTE: spyrex

if he flips town, kondi's next.

Yes, I'm pretty sure kondi is scum.

Vote: kondi

Ok.

UNVOTE: spyrex

VOTE: kondi

Same as last time, if kondi flips town, I'm voting spyrex.

um excuse me, what is this?

get the fuck back on Spyrex kthx

HAMMER!

On to the next mislynch!

VOTE: petapan

OKay, so, there's not even been a flip, and you KNOW this is a mislynch, AND you're ready for the NEXT mislynch?

Then we have a the slip right above this post.

Vote: IceGuy

Why did you not pursue this lead?

SpyreX is on my scumlist now as well. I disliked his campaigning for policy lynchee rights in his opening post of the game, and the fact he is now steadfastly enforcing policy all over the place. Weird vibes.

Let's do it. Hop on, sister.

So many people have probably fallen behind. I'm going to shut up for a while and let others dictate terms for a while. My thoughts are known.

May I ask for your opinion now?

I'm fine with that hammer, even though Moneybags was town. So be it. He wasn't a bad lynch and I think the original impetus was town driven.

So who do you think the scum hops were?

My lynch list:

BBMolla
SpyreX
Peregrine (new addition)
Uberninja (new addition)Happy with my vote, but will swap over to SpyreX if others are interested.

Others are most definitely interested.

I'm starting to think that UberNinja is town.

I'm also thinking Trevor is an idiot.

Thank you.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SpyreX

SpyreX has four votes. We're making progress.

Yep. Get your ass back on!

I know you're not a newbie, and I know you know that tell, but knowledge of a tell does not prevent one from committing it.

So, the insatiable urge to feign surprise as scum was so great that it eclipsed my knowledge of this tell.

I legitimately lol'd at this post. <3 Hoopla

[UberNinja]

Apathy is going to eat this game if it doesn't become immediately clear that apathy = death.

I will shamelessly sheep all of your reads if you flip town, based 100% on this part of your post.

You still need to die though, unfortunately. Otherwise I will never forgive myself if you're scum.

[UberNinja]

AAAAND

Chevre comes out of hiding to post RIGHT AFTER there are two votes on him

WOOSH

Vote: Chevre

@ Spyrex: Come with me if you want to live

[UberNinja]

why is there so many people self-voting. it is almost always against your win con. you shouldn't be able to gain town-cred by self-voting.

but the sad truth is that scums are much less likely to self-vote than town, so i think both kondi and lowman is town.

What do you think about SpyreX's continual acceptance and desire for his lynch? Same category?

It can definitely be scum WIFOM, but Spyrex does, to some degree, seem genuinely uncaring about his lynch, and not very defensive about it. He just seems hungry for blood. Not sure how to read it.

What do you think about Chevre?

Hoopla, same question.

[UberNinja]

the votes on kondi are stupid

move them to chevre

[UberNinja]

a) spyrex has promised content
b) spyrex is much better of a player than chevre
c) if spyrex doesn't come through, we lynch him
d) DID YOU SEE how chevre freaked out w/2 votes
e) i like you and all, don't make me get out my sword

[UberNinja]

It's not sarcastic, he's just a moron.

[UberNinja]

yes, me and callforjudgement are scum together, and you figured everything out, redFF.

please do me a favor and shut up and let the grown ups talk for a while

[UberNinja]

@ syndrome, theamateur, Staeg, your 1-person wagons are pretty useless. Whether they're scum or not, if you're not actively campaigning for their lynch while wasting your vote on them, you're doing it wrong and you need to switch to a better wagon. I recommend switching to Chevre.

[UberNinja]

I saw that you posted, and I came here to say "Vote Chevre now if you want to live", but I saw that you already had. I am pleased.

Now please give your thoughts on SpyreX.

[UberNinja]

lololololo @ trying to mimic spyrex's plea bargain

... siiiigh, hurry the fuck up bitch

[UberNinja]

^ what the hell is this

get the hell back on the wagon you scummy mcscummerson

[UberNinja]

No Staeg, it's really not.

[UberNinja]

choo choo

[UberNinja]

also, the idea that we should be listening to what the mislynches had to say is a bad one. Sure, we know they were town, but (1) townies also know that they themselves are town so there is no reason to trust dead people over themselves (2) just because they were town doesn't mean they were right

This post gave me cancer

Your attack on Chevre was really bad, Trollie.

um, no. actually it was fucking awesome

quiet, you

[UberNinja]

IMAGINALITY:
In 161, he votes TML. A very recurring theme.
In 641, he begins with his reads, the first 10 of them. First, he comments on the current wagons, which are Elmo and redFF, and says they are not necessarily bad. theamatuer, Amrun, funkybike1, sykedoc, and Moneybags all get minus signs in this group of ten, and he votes Moneybags.
In 879 are ten more reads; MoS, CC and Robotnick2 receive minus signs. He votes TechnoWC.
In 1082, he switches to Captain Corporal but also shows more interest in an Elmo lynch.

PEDIT: TheTrollie,

I've been posting all game.

In fact, I posted the whole Luffy thing right before these posts. And "we all know what the thread says?" tell that to MoS or dramonic. And I'm completely confused about what you are saying about the "descriptive" posts? I didn't have time to ISO anyone, so I only posted my thoughts about what I thought was creating so many mislynches. It wasn't summarizing, or clarifying, it was trying to get us to actually lynch scum. And I'm not saying don't listen to yourself. I'm saying that we can also listen to these people who have died because they are confirmed to be townies who had sincere townie motivations. And sure, it doesn't mean they were right, but the people who lynched them thinking they were scum weren't right either.

lie detected

woop woop woop

[UberNinja]

This post gave me cancer

Your attack on Chevre was really bad, Trollie.

Eh, he's a newb, he's still learning.

Trollie, don't worry your lil head off, just switch to SpyreX.

don't encourage trevor please

[UberNinja]

Yeah Chevre, you have 11 posts in the last 12 days. All of which are helpful and town-indicative.

Not.

[UberNinja]

NS feels waaaaay more town after that quip about TheTrollie. Thanks for that link, btw

Trollie, igmeoy

[UberNinja]

Redff I would like to neuter you. Shut your little obnoxious trap.

holy shit, this

[UberNinja]

shut the fuck up redFF

[UberNinja]

SpyreX, that was a cool post and all, and I'mma let you finish, but Chevre is the scummiest mother fucker of ALL TIME.

Srsly though, yeah he's scummy as hell, but he's been getting better as someone else said. I am willing to give him a chance to come up with something as epic as SpyreX came up with in the interim between now and being lynched.

I am fine with killing off Hoopla XOR SpyreX.

[UberNinja]

At least kondi made an effort to not be a shitty player this game. A terrific effort at that.

[UberNinja]

proxy vote to SpyreX as long as he uses it to vote trevor or redFF

[UberNinja]

So we are ignoring scummy people and lynching lurkers now?

I don't want to live on this planet any more.

Unvote

[UberNinja]

Vote: Fritzler

[UberNinja]

hipster UberNinja voted Fritzler before it was cool

Spoiler:

[UberNinja]

@mod, can we get a replacement for anyone who hasn't posted in more than a week?

[UberNinja]

(or has less than 10 posts out of OVER 2000 so far)

[UberNinja]

V/LAs are much different from active lurking and site flaking.

[UberNinja]

Unvote; Vote: redFF

I'm 100% fine with a policy lynch before bedtime.

[UberNinja]

VOTE: Milf

I see what you did there.

[UberNinja]

If milk ends up flipping scum I'm going to eat a whole box of my cookies in celebration.

If he flips town I'm going to go on a fucking rampage and eat all of

your

guys' cookies.

[UberNinja]

If milk ends up flipping scum I'm going to eat a whole box of my cookies in celebration.

If he flips town I'm going to go on a fucking rampage and eat all of

your

guys' cookies.

No, you're not.

TRY AND STOP ME

[UberNinja]

But I don't really have a scum read on Techno, Ellibereth.

[UberNinja]

Still only 1 kill. Either that's 2 flukes in a row, or Hoopla was right (about balancing for the Mimes, etc)

SpyreX, why Amrun?

[UberNinja]

The kondi wagon was a shit idea yesterday, and it's a shit idea today.

[UberNinja]

Vote: Fritzler

[UberNinja]

The chances of whether kondi gets to stay alive are directly proportional to how he acts today.

I'm fucking sick of hearing you yap about him, so shut your trap or I'll actually make sure you die.

[UberNinja]

Well aren't you a clever little troll. Give me your address and I can make it happen.

Anywhere in the world: Blood on the walls in 30 minutes or less, or your money back.

[UberNinja]

moar Fritz votes

[UberNinja]

SPYREX
WHO AM I VOTING AGAIN?

I've translated SpyreX's post 2214 to read: Vote Fritzler.

PFffft

Wait until a wagon gets to 8, vote it. Then I'll vote it.

Thats the new approach

Good approach, but you forgot to tell dramonic that the only viable wagon is Fritzler.

Someone tell me why there are fritzler votes because I don't see it.

You don't have to see it. You just have to vote it.

And by it of course I mean Fritzler.

i'm expecting 10 pages after playing diablo for 2 days, but i get only 2. i'm disappointed.

will read fritzler soon.

Don't re-read, just be ignorant and sheep me in voting Fritzler.

[UberNinja]

Lowman, regardless of who he's an alt of (yes, I know, and I don't particularly like him), is still not scum.

Fritzler on the other hand, is. BBmolla is also a good lynch but I still think Fritzler should be dying first.

[UberNinja]

Fritzler has 5 votes. Anyone got a reason besides "yeah, sounds good."?

It's fucking delicious too. Omg, nom nom nom

You should try it

[UberNinja]

Come to think of it, I saw the same type of response in another game by apathetic scum, so it's probably more telling of scum at this stage.

Vote: Jackal711

No, no, no, no, no.

Lowman/Jackal is not scum, dummy.

[UberNinja]

hearing the word idiot coming out of Trevor's mouth in reference to someone else is rich

[UberNinja]

there's a difference between not reading the thread and not being capable of intelligent thought; nice try tho

and nice alt slip

[UberNinja]

What do you have on Trevor?

Read my ISO and Cmd-F/Ctrl-F search for Trevor.

[UberNinja]

Zdenek if you are town, I want a Fritzler vote please.

Zame thing to Zajnet.

[UberNinja]

Still think the Fritzler wagon is stupid, Zdenek?

[UberNinja]

How did the game manage to lynch Fritzler when we had a lurker-list setup easy for scum to pick off, especially when it looks like there is just one big mafia team - surely they could have enough influence to avoid this. I think bussing was involved.

Perhaps I was right about Usurpers existing. Keep bussing scumbags...

Sure, bussing was probably involved. But I was fucking tenacious and made it fuckin' happen.

You either 1v1 me or you vote Fritzler. And guess which is a better option for scum who want to stay under the radar.

[UberNinja]

Hoopla, convince me of who you think is scum.

[UberNinja]

i can't read fritzler. he's acting stipud, but not scummy.

But manho votes Fritzler with no explanation after the wagon is obviously inevitable. BUDDY ALERT WOO WOO WOO

LowMan, if your issue with the game is altslipping, why not replace your alt with your main? (At least one alt has done that already this game.)

Meanwhile: SpyreX is probably town, but seems to be insisting on anti-town play. The only reasonable non-tedious point that's been made recently is Peregrine's point, so I'll go join him on his wagon.

VOTE: BBmolla

Also suspect callforjudgment as buddy. Totally, 100% completely ignores the Fritzler wagon despite posting votecounts, trying to support a counterwagon here.

If you started lynching the lurker list, it'll probably be best to continue. There's probably scum in there, and we knew going in we were going to lose a few VT's out of it.

Ignores Fritzler; passively supports lurker hunt. Scumpoints.

I don't even care if he is scum

vote: Fritzler

Not a bus.

VOTE: Fritzler

To help keep this game moving.

Not a bus.

vote: fritzler

Totally a bus.

VOTE: manho

As much as I do think Trevor should die, this just feels so right and the Trevor thing is full of wifom, inherently.

manho must die. It has been decreed.

This post is good.

Vote: manho

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Just ISO'd sykedoc.

Bleh. sykedoc's hardly posted at all, but reading the ISO, I'm getting townvibes from what he

has

posted.

this ^

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That's the spirit

Moar manho votes

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I don't think kondi is scum, and there's no way in hell I will stand for his lynch until at least 10 more people are dead.

Muffin Wednesday was one of my top town reads, and nothing changed when it was revealed he was kondi.

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no, i don't bus as scum. i re-read fritzler and found him more scummy than the first read. so i joined the wagon.

i know i will be lynched soon, (has anyone survived a L-2?). i'm VT, and scums are probably lurking.

instead of "scums are probably lurking"

how about you point some fingers bro

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just noticed your signature, UberNinja, and I appreciate it.

I stole it from DeltaWave

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Or were you talking about the 100% Confirmed No-Doubt-About-It Commie Mutant Traitor Scum part?

In which case, that's from Paranoia Mafia obv

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A Manho/Fritzler double iso tells me:

Chevre and Robotnick are Prob town.
Spyrex is likely town.
Elmo is leaning town.

Hoopla and NS may be scum.

So which one are you voting for?

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I remember complaining that those who said "keeping my word" or a similar derivative were scummy as hell.

Now who was the other one... I'll go find out, one sec.

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Why the HELL are people

justifying votes on other people

with "Keeping my word" and "I keep my promises"?

It's a fucking

50-player game

and I'll be damned if you need to justify

anything

on Day 1.

FOS on Fritzler and Fluffy. Fuckin fucks.

Luffy. Hmph. Dead end.

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Time to double-iso Rhinox and Imaginality.

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Idea: split into 5 random groups of 10, focus on 1group per week, lynch the scummiest from each group for 5 lynches in 5 weeks for the first day.

Pros: makes scumhunting more focused and natural
Scum unable to lurk through early days

Cons: some groups might not have scum

I wouldcontinue doing this for every day there are multiple lynches, so until19 players remain. Every new day reshuffle groups amd split into n groups where n= number of lynches. Always choose 1 lynch from each group.

Thoughtts?

So, even though we're not going with the blocks of 10 plan, I'm still going to do reads 10 at a time, rather than drown under a sea of posts.

But first a quick comment on current wagons: of the people with 2+ votes, I wouldn't miss elmo or redFF, but so far they don't reek of scum, just of useless. T-Bone, BBmolla and Rhinox are all okay (although I hope BB doesn't post 60 posts every day or I might have to lynch him just for sanity's sake). So yep, no wagons obv-right enough for me to jump onto at the moment.

As for my reads:

+ T-bone - 15 posts - engaging, giving reads and content, I see no reason for his wagon other than anti-voting-block-policy-lynchers. People concerned he's giving town reads too early, meh. Depends if they become self-confirming or if he reconsiders them as required. And in a game this big I can see voting blocks having a part to play, if not quite yet.
+ Nobody Special - 3 posts - good scumhunting in them...
= zajnet - 0 posts...
= staeg - 0 posts...
= lupo - 0 posts...
=- theamateur - 10 posts - nothing but policy votes so far; then apparently breadcrumbing something in his final post? which seems too attention-drawing to be helpful if town, but equally too overtly attention-drawing for scum, so I'll say null tell on that for now...
=- Amrun - 1 post - her first post makes me a little wary. Mainly cos finding lurkers in this game seems like an easy way to avoid scumhunting...
- funkybike1 - 1 post - no contribution...
- sykedoc - 1 post - no content yet; hopefully we're not going to hear 'gotta catch up' too much this game because that's too easy an excuse in this game. You've gotta contribute whether you're caught up or not. Just read the last few pages or something...
-- Moneybags - 8 posts - sheeping and pushing a Milk wagon for no (stated) reason, and fluff posts...

VOTE: Moneybags

Tomorrow my next 10 reads.

wtf..

just for you muffin *smooch*

no fucking way am I lynching tbone and not just because I'm in his town block but because he is ACTUALLY TRYING. Too many of you are playing like you think you're hot shit and filling the thread with crap. I take back what I said before about policy lynches there are about 5-10 of you I wish I could nuke right now.

vote bbmolla

looked at the top 3 wagons, this one looks the best. Fucking 62 post iso of fluff in less than 24 hours. No thank you. Please kindly be lynched now.

Next reads:

++ redff - not a fan of the one-liner posting style but I get the sense from his posts that he's genuinely thinking and questioning, so that gives me a town feel...
+ SleepyKrew - unvoting due to absence gave me a good vibe, I feel like as scum he wouldn't necessarily have bothered to unvote...
+ Rhinox - lots of strategy, and policy votes, but good reasons for both, and I like that the reads he gave in 668 weren't just sheeping other people's suspects...
+ BBMolla - in a game with 50 players and 10 to lynch, I don't think scum would be so bold to throw out the "meh I don't care if I get lynched" line
=+ Zdenek - I agree with his reads particularly elmo, T-bone and Muffin...
= UberNinja - having fun isn't a scum tell; sure Uber could be doing more scumhunting, but since this is a 50-player game, I'm happy to give players who make me laugh leeway at this point, and focus on hunting the non-funny scum instead...
= SpyreX - his playstyle always gives me a baseline pro-town sense. This game he comes off as slightly less engaged than other games I've been in with him but on the other hand the rate of posting this game is crazy so I think that's pretty null right now. Definitely want to wait til the dust settles and see how he plays when we're not posting 25 pages a day
=- Captain Corporal - more please...
- MoS - one post, no content. Dislike the "I'm not going to read anything" approach: @MoS you don't need to read the whole game, just read the last page or so and look for scummy posts there...
- Robotnick2 - first post suggests he is or at least was paying slight attention to the game, so why didn't he give us anything more than that?

Yeah, not keen on this UberNinja wagon.
Of the above players, and yesterday's, I'd be fine with a Robotnick2 wagon if we want to lynch someone low-contributing.

But right now I want to

VOTE: TeChNoWC

for his fence-sitting and buddying. He seems like he's trying to get on everyone's good side, and his posts don't ring sincere to me. I'm interested to hear what others think.

I'm surprised at how little there is aside from imaginality's lists and a few votes by Rhinox. It's like scum purposefully killed off people who it would be hard to find suspects from their ISOs. However, there's still a little bit:

Leaving out those already dead and flipped Mime or VT, Rhinox suspected

BBmolla and TechnoWC

, and Imaginality suspected

MoS, funkybike1, and sykedoc

.

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Vote: BBmolla

Definitely the worst of the bunch.

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lightning wagon gogogogogo

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so we're just ignoring the lurker list?
btw, I think I have an idea on scumteam no. 2. Care to listen?

we're ignoring the lurker list as long as we keep lynching scum boyo

whatsa matter? scared that your scum team size is dwindling? fuckin

lol

YOUR NEXT

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BBmolla first, then SpyreX. I am not averse to a SpyreX death though

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I'm down as long as BB's next.

Vote: SpyreX

If SpyreX is town, Hoopla also dies. So it is written.

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P.S. as far as I'm concerned, Amrun gets a free pass for at least 5-10 more lynches.

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cfj, i think SpyreX has a good likelihood of being town too, but he's so controversial that he needs to go. and we can learn a lot based on his flip, regarding plenty of other players and their attitudes towards him, and his attitudes towards them.

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tl;dr: vote spyrex and bbmolla goes next anyway

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^

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DOUBLE FURTHER, if you dont lynch either of us I will literally just throw hammers down on anyone for the rest of the game and that will be the absolute extent of my contribution.

(abluh abluh abluh SpyreX is SCUM TBone is SCUM I AM ABUBUBHABA)

Best post.

UN, talk to me about spyrex: who does a scumflip incriminate? A townflip? Why is he controversial/worse than the ten bazillion proddodge4lyfe people?

Because soad's post was a not-answer.

You're asking me to do actual work instead of just lynching scum. Sorry, I don't have time.

You can either read that post, or you can wait until SpyreX flips and we extrapolate, and then voila, you will have your answer.

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you're going to actively go against the flow of town lynch rampage just so you can say "haha he was town and I wasn't on the wagon" if he flips town?

cause explain that to me or you're next mr.

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well

no duh

jackal's unlikely to be scum

i haven't been saying that for 15 pages or anything have i

[UberNinja]

BBmolla, why PeregrineV?

Do you have any comments on being the next wagon after SpyreX?
Do you have anything to say about SpyreX before he dies?

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Explain. Nao, plz thx

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Any votes on BBmolla or SpyreX are perfectly acceptable.

It's a juicy either/or.

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Some people want to lynch him before BBmolla. It's fine w/me.

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Nah, they could both be scum. When was the last time they talked about each other?

I'm too busy to check but if one of you could do that and report back to me on your findings that'd be peachy

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*They could also both be town, but I'm certainly not feelin' that.

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We are not sheeping imaginality. We are sheeping ME

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T I'LL CHOP YOUR DAMN HEAD OFF

bbmolla/spyrex die before techno/elmo, mmmmk

[UberNinja]

We're sheeping ME >:{

YEAH THATS WHAT I SAID

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Sorry guyz, Internet was out. I'm back at least until it goes out again D:

cool, vote spyrex

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No you only get to die if you don't ask. Stop being coy

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Uber: If one of bbmolla/spyrex flips town, can we not lynch the other?

no they are both on THE LIST™

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shhhh zoraster.

spyrex wanting person a before person b is fine, even if he's not voting them. there are still a shitload of people, so the order of lynches is semantics at this point

when we get down to many many less then it will be a valid point maybe but for now you are just spinning the wheels on your little red wagon and trying to look pro-town

and as far as you-town goes, you don't have a leg to stand on as far as i'm concerned.

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3.23

SpyreX didn't have Person A before Person B. He had OMG YOU WILL LYNCH PERSON A BEFORE PERSON B OR I WILL FREAK OUT.

That's a very different statement.

i think if he's dead and flipped town and he's been after 1 person all game,
he has just a teeensy bit more sway in who gets lynched, wouldn't you say?

anyway, what are you trying to point out here? HE'S SCUM CUZ AtE?

... lol

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do you even know what AtE means?

yes. now answer me: what were you trying to point out?

answering a question with a question and hoping i'll forget i asked it is bad play even for your kind

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welcome, deltawave <3

[UberNinja]

Amrun (1): Hoopla
kondi2424 (1): redFF
PeregrineV (1): BBmolla
sykedoc (1): theamatuer
TheTrollie (1): petapan
zoraster (1): Zajnet

lolol

scum in here, guaran fucking teed

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Amrun (1): Hoopla
kondi2424 (1): redFF
PeregrineV (1): BBmolla
sykedoc (1): theamatuer
TheTrollie (1): petapan
zoraster (1): Zajnet

lolol

scum in here, guaran fucking teed

Uber, are you calling them scummy because they aren't going with your wagon?

No, I'm saying it's scummy to park your vote on somebody with very little chance of being lynched, when there are other more viable wagons.

If they are actively engaging in discussion, it's one thing. But they aren't. So it's THE OTHER THING (they're scum). I will go straight down this list and lynch every single one of these fuckers. I give no fucks.

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I'm not sure whether to throw a book at NS for trying to start a Hoopla wagon BEFORE SpyreX is dead, or for trying to get me to join him.

Either way... *bookthrow*

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@UN: Why do you consider it scummier to park your vote on someone who isn't likely to get lynched as opposed to not voting at all?

Because people not voting at all are more likely to get called out than the ones who say "herp derp i'm just voting who I want lynched, don't judge me" and that's a much better place to hide as scum.

Sheep me lest I slay thee.

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FUCK Bloody posts!

No thanks I'll politely decline...

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Unvote; Vote: Nobody Special

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On the other hand, this practically confirms Spy and I as town (unless Spy is a Godfather). Scum would have no need to kill Matt unless he was right.

Nah, if you were scum, you could have killed him to be able to make that argument. It's all WIFOM.

If I were scum, the benefits of keeping Matt alive would greatly outweigh the benefits of killing him.

How so?

Some VT having to call you confirmed town until he admits to his lie, resulting in his mislynch would be better for a scumteam than an argument to call one of the members town until they lynch him for failing to be nightkilled.

kondi is not only town, he is 100% right.

I think the reason callforjudgement is trying to make kondi appear scummy is to throw doubt on mattp's reads.

such as this one:

Call just surrendered, didn't even fight back. He should be killed no question tomorrow.

If I die tonight, lynch Call tomorrow. Please for me. Thank you.

callforjudgement didn't ever bother to throw doubt on mattp's "results" until after mattp died and it seemed like there was a small chance of saving his own ass.

vote: cfj for death death death death

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Also, callforjudgement townslipped in 498 by mentioning the possibility of pre-game talk when mykonian obviously started the game as soon as PMs were sent out.

this does not convince me. scum could easily fake that.

and compared to the real damning evidence which is callforjudgement not decrying mattp immediately as a fake cop, we know for 100% sure he's either scum or third-party.

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vote:kondi

what the fuck is this moron doing

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and omfg call seriously managed to ignore 3/3 scum lynches

SO FUCKING SCUM

Wow, there were 3 as well. I'd managed to miss manho's flip, somehow.

This game's just too large for me to really

do

anything with the flips.

(I think I'm on record as saying I don't like larges.)

Meanwhile, you pushed wagons on two scum (and you seem to have been suspiciously sure of yourself), and have completely been avoiding talking about NS or his flip. Does this mean anything? If not, why does it mean anything with me? You seem to care about lynching me more than you care about reasoning. (Are you third party?)

soooo mr. hey-i-have-so-much-time-on-my-hands-that-i'm-gonna-do-pseudo-votecounts is now saying he can't be assed to iso HIMSELF and throw some pretty colors in there, even if nothing else for a bunch of IoA? yeaaaa not buying it

this needs SO dead

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and then of course what amrun said 3 posts ago which is also fantastic
wake me up when cfj is dead


pew pew pew

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I'm 100% down to lynch callforjudgement right now. Wake me up when he's dead; not much use posting until that happens. Later.

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Excellent. Who wants to do the faux vote counts when cfj flips scum?

Hoopla, I choose you.

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unvote, vote: cfj

Is this your second or third L+1 vote?

FOS: U

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How old are you, redFF?