The game of the year: town won!

[BBmolla]

Trevor that Amrun wagon looks so delicious in your mouth, the brand new McAmrun supreme, lynch it now at McKonians(tm)

[Luffy]

Hey, can someone who is bored do ISO Zdenek, Trollie, and Chronopie, and give thoughts please? I think all 3 can fit the flying under radar scum profile.

[SpyreX]

Ohhhhh look at that.

Now lets take a step back from dumbcliff and actually parse out the wagons we've had - this is NOT something I'm doing right now but it absolutely should happen today.

As for the game of fake-fake of fakelands the winners of that prize are Hoopla for even pretending to believe the lynchers and Luffy's ohh wooe is me I was wrong bit turning IMMEDIATELY to trying to lynch lurkers in the no feather ruffling business.

the BB votes are almost as stupid as the T-Bone wagon was.

Unvote, Vote: Luffy

[TeChNoWC]

Fucking scumreads coming out of my arse, I can't keep up. Even Hoopla seems sus.

First off, Matt P what is with the crazy amount of vote changes? And where is this PV wagon coming from?

I think everyone needs to calm down and analyse some of the larger scumreads on the T-Bone wagon. I will ISO PV but I am not sure what all the fuss is about, no one has provided reasons yet and I am beginning to believe there is a strong mafia lynching patrol running around and trying to gain momentum with quicklynches.

With that in mind Matt P seems super sus, as if testing the waters to see what vote other scum are willing to jump on for a quick bandwagon. The lack of proper scumhunting in this game is making me think the mafia are getting confident, and no one is pulling them up for it.

My reads on Spyrex are changing.

[BBmolla]

Need Amrun reads from everyone not voting her.

Gonna figure out her buddies.

[Trevor]

Ohhhhh look at that.

Now lets take a step back from dumbcliff and actually parse out the wagons we've had - this is NOT something I'm doing right now but it absolutely should happen today.

As for the game of fake-fake of fakelands the winners of that prize are Hoopla for even pretending to believe the lynchers and Luffy's ohh wooe is me I was wrong bit turning IMMEDIATELY to trying to lynch lurkers in the no feather ruffling business.

the BB votes are .

Unvote, Vote: Luffy

Yaaawwn this is stupiddd but lets go ahead and get it done fast

Unvote, Vote: T-Bone

(I wasn't paying attention and I thought we had one more yesterday)

almost as stupid as the T-Bone wagon was

[Hoopla]

This is my "here's what I think's going on" post:

The advent of a single nightkill is kind of throwing me off because I was expecting multiple vigs/SK's and scumteams which we obviously don't have. Given we had a six player Mime team, perhaps it shouldn't have come as a surprise that there would be minimal nightkills. If there were four or five nightkills per night to match the daytime lynches, they would have no chance. So, how do we construct a 50 player game with only one or two NK's per night (I'm assuming that the maximum per night is two, as it would be unlucky/unlikely that multiple kills were stopped)?

Originally we thought we couldn't have a big 7-9 player scumteam, but I actually think it could work based on what we know about the game so far. There are multiple angels that exist in this setup, which can clearly stop a scum voting block powering through successive lynches. I also think if we started to notice the same group of players all being on mislynches, we'd be able to catch them. This forces scum to bus or spread out undermining their influence - they would probably need 25+ mislynches, so they can't be on all of them.

What I also know about mykonian is he likes to revive obscure oldschool roles and build setups around them. An effective way to balance a large scumteam would be to have a couple of Usurpers amongst the scum, dividing the team from within. Mykonian has used this role once before in one of his early modding enterprises, so if you're a part of a big scumteam, I'd recommend bussing.

What is also possible is a Jungle Republic type mechanic, where there is a small Werewolf faction with a nightkill and then a larger Mafia faction without a kill. I don't think mykonian would be adverse to asymmetrical scumteams.

Obviously, seeing another set of night actions play out will give us more information, but right now, I am expecting an unusual scum dynamic like Usurpers or a team without a kill.

[Hoopla]

As for the game of fake-fake of fakelands the winners of that prize are Hoopla for even pretending to believe the lynchers

Why don't I get to play along too?

[SpyreX]

Because if you're playing along you've been playing along all game.

Yes Trevor those are my words and they are all right. If you are eluding to "Why did you vote T-Bone when you said it was stupid" I also already answered that. It was not going away and it was not worth the energy TRYING to make it go away and letting the stupid skitter away from it in the meanwhiles.

[Hoopla]

Hey Spy, I'm not voting you any more, you don't have to keep OMGUS'ing me.

[Zajnet]

UNVOTE: Hoopla

Your #1456 is setting off all sorts of scumdar alarm bells for me, which of course means that you're town.

[Trevor]

I'm off to sleep. Couple things:
Today's fake lyncher claim was very telling. It wasn't anti-town at the slightest, so don't fucking lynch someone based on that. Too bad no one was active when it happened.
Lynch Milk or Peregrine. I don't care which.
Uberninja's next post will be very bad.

[Staeg]

vote: Luffy

[UberNinja]

"very bad"

[TeChNoWC]

Hey, can someone who is bored do ISO Zdenek, Trollie, and Chronopie, and give thoughts please? I think all 3 can fit the flying under radar scum profile.

I ISOd them, towntells except for Trollie, he seems lurkerish, particularly telling that he wanted a T-Bone lynch so bad.

It just seems to me you are bussing everyone to see if anyone is lynchable.

[SpyreX]

OMGUS would assume I didn't have issues from you in the waaay before times.

I want you lynched, I just know when the time is right.

[MattP]

Mislynch wagons:

Spoiler:

Chesskid:
Captain Corporal, Agar, Johhog, theamatuer, Hoopla, Izakthegoomba, Iceguy, Fritzler, the mini-librarian, Milk

Mini-Librarian:
syndromeofadown, Rhinox, Amrun, hoopla, T-bone, Fritzler, Imaginality, Uberninja, Luffy, Elmo teh Azn

izak (who was saved)
Petapan, milk, mattp, Elmo teh Azn, BBmolla, Muffin Wednesday, chronopie, Spyrex, t-bone, Kairyuu


Moneybags
imaginality, TechnoWC, callforjudgement, T-bone, Rhinox, redff, Ellibereth, BBmolla, Fritzler, Muffin Wednesday


Captain Corporeal
Ellibereth, peregrinev, BBmolla, YYR, Spyrex, imaginality, Rhinox, TechnoWC, SleepyKrew, T-Bone

T-bone
Amrun, theamateur, uberninja, kondi2424, mattp, luffy, Thetrollie, lowman, spyrex, Staeg

Living players and the amount of mislynches they were on:

Spoiler:

Theamateur: 2
Hoopla: 2
Fritzler: 3
Milk: 2
Syndromeofadown: 1
Rhinox: 3
Amrun: 2
UN: 2
Luffy: 1
Elmo: 2
Petapan:1
MattP: 2
BBmolla: 3
Kondi: 3
Chronopie: 1
SpyreX: 2
Kairyuu: 1
Techo: 2
Callforjudgement: 1
RedFF: 1
Ellibereth: 2
Peregrine: 1
YYR: 1
Sleepykrew: 1
TheTrollie: 1
Lowman: 1
Staeg: 1

Perhaps players that have tried to keep their hands clean (not be on any mislynches) should be ISOd. There are about ten of them.

[TheTrollie]

Here's an idea: We lynch the first 40 people on the list, no questions asked, and then the remaining 10 scumhunt it out amongst themselves. In all likelihood, getting rid of 80% of the players that quickly will do wonders to get rid of the scum. Unless a large amount of scum are in the last 10 on the list. It could be any of the blocks of 10 players, I don't give a fuck.

not sure if this is a real suggestion, seems very dumb to me.

Why the HELL are people

justifying votes on other people

with "Keeping my word" and "I keep my promises"?

It's a fucking

50-player game

and I'll be damned if you need to justify

anything

on Day 1.

FOS on Fritzler and Fluffy. Fuckin fucks.

the justifications quoted are not justifications at all, then you criticize them for not having justifications

UberNinja is probably not scum.

and

how the hell

do you know that?

(1) why are you asking about this (2) very aggressive (aggressive a lot in this game. does ayone who has played with UN before have something to say about if this level of aggression is normal?)

In other news: UN is now scummy.

then lynch me, bastard

Verry aggressive defense. very scummy

Re the izak wagon: you're wagoning him for his meta. This doesn't mean that he isn't scum; it just means that what he's done so far isn't a scumtell for him, it's null. (I seem to remember him doing something incredibly rash on day 1 of an election-based game before even reading the role PM; I can't remember the exact name.) Arguably this means he makes a good policy lynch, but we have other more policy-lynchable people around, also actual scum.

...I've made it very clear why I think he's scum.

No, you'd made it very clear THAT you think he's scum, you had said virtually nothing about the WHY part

I thought the why part wasn't important in a game this large to you

VOTE: UberNinja

[kondi2424]

^

That was really... not good.

[manho]

night is so short. don't have time to read.

but i'll spend some time doing this:

Hey, can someone who is bored do ISO Zdenek, Trollie, and Chronopie, and give thoughts please? I think all 3 can fit the flying under radar scum profile.

zdenek is not scum. a scum flying under radar won't attack a player like him.
too little posts from trollie. but he is more likely scum flying under radar than townie not keeping up with the pace. not sure though.
chrono is likely town.

they all have little contribution since the mimes are gone, which is a small scum tell. and they are not commenting on wagons other than the one they are on, but i don't think it automatic makes them scum.

EBWOP: not reading all the ninja posts.

[TheTrollie]

@kondi how about enlightening me as to why rather than just saying something unhelpful like that

[kondi2424]

Your case is basically "he's aggressive", which is a playstyle.

[UberNinja]

with all that is in my heart i want to punch you in the face for being so consarn thick.

Here's an idea: We lynch the first 40 people on the list, no questions asked, and then the remaining 10 scumhunt it out amongst themselves. In all likelihood, getting rid of 80% of the players that quickly will do wonders to get rid of the scum. Unless a large amount of scum are in the last 10 on the list. It could be any of the blocks of 10 players, I don't give a fuck.

not sure if this is a real suggestion, seems very dumb to me.

lynching according to what the crowd wants, when the crowd is supposedly full of scum, is a bad idea.

lynching according to "you're next on the list, bye" is much less susceptible to scum influence.

Why the HELL are people

justifying votes on other people

with "Keeping my word" and "I keep my promises"?

It's a fucking

50-player game

and I'll be damned if you need to justify

anything

on Day 1.

FOS on Fritzler and Fluffy. Fuckin fucks.

the justifications quoted are not justifications at all, then you criticize them for not having justifications

no stupid, i criticized them for HAVING justifications. and for MAKING them.

you really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

UberNinja is probably not scum.

and

how the hell

do you know that?

(1) why are you asking about this (2) very aggressive (aggressive a lot in this game. does ayone who has played with UN before have something to say about if this level of aggression is normal?)

(1) because, (2) hell yes i am

In other news: UN is now scummy.

then lynch me, bastard

Verry aggressive defense. very scummy

how is that scummy? he backed off pretty fucking quick, don't you agree? it was EFFECTIVE was what it was.

Re the izak wagon: you're wagoning him for his meta. This doesn't mean that he isn't scum; it just means that what he's done so far isn't a scumtell for him, it's null. (I seem to remember him doing something incredibly rash on day 1 of an election-based game before even reading the role PM; I can't remember the exact name.) Arguably this means he makes a good policy lynch, but we have other more policy-lynchable people around, also actual scum.

...I've made it very clear why I think he's scum.

No, you'd made it very clear THAT you think he's scum, you had said virtually nothing about the WHY part

I thought the why part wasn't important in a game this large to you

VOTE: UberNinja

it's NOT important. what's important was that HE LIED about having provided "the why".

which reminds me:

vote: BBmolla

trollie, you're way, waaay too stupid to be scum. onto the town list you go

[SpyreX]

I want to join the church of Trevor, for he is a prophet.

[TheTrollie]

pretty confident UN is town

UNVOTE: UberNinja