Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Mr Subliminal]

Let the trolling begin.

confirm.

--Magua

[Mr Subliminal]

Actually, we won't be signing posts. Sense of unity and all that jazz.

confirm.

Let the trolling begin.

[Mr Subliminal]

Why the sadface?

Nikanor removed one of your lines

I'm town

from his quote of you.

It's a...what's the

don't shoot me

word I'm looking for

hot sex

? Joke. It's a joke.

[Mr Subliminal]

It's kinda sad how long it took me to get the humor in Sub's 22. (And in their signature.)

What

sheep me

humor?

[Mr Subliminal]

Khan site flaked? What?
Anyway, since everyone's doing it...

Come brightest Day
Or blackest night
Pewpew I shoot the evils with my sperm. Whale.

[Mr Subliminal]

VOTE: vezok
I'm the most

sheep me

protown person so

lynch vezok

far.

[Mr Subliminal]

VOTE: vezok
I'm the most

sheep me

protown person so

lynch vezok

far.

I guess this didn't

I'm town

count before.

[Mr Subliminal]

Also willing to

Nikanor is butthurt

lynch kondi.
mastin, why don't you

I'm mod-confirmed town

start the claims?
And why not

mastin is truthery

kill ooba first?

[Mr Subliminal]

Then why aren't you

I'm town

voting him

hot sex

?

[Mr Subliminal]

I'm always

lynch Andrius

down for an Andy

I'm town

lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Andy

[Mr Subliminal]

I already asked you to start the

sheep me

claiming.

[Mr Subliminal]

I already asked you to start the

sheep me

claiming.

[Mr Subliminal]

Pick me

Popcorn

or don't

.

[Mr Subliminal]

Hey guys.
If we choiceclaim

so fucking protown

, then couldn't the Black Lanterns figure out the White Lanterns real

hot sex

fast?

[Mr Subliminal]

Don't

WHY?

nameclaim >.>

[Mr Subliminal]

He's a human

I'm town

GL.

[Mr Subliminal]

@Oversoul: See my post. 2 lanterns from the same planets...shouldn't happen

But there were

lynch Andrius

Earth GLs.

[Mr Subliminal]

4

[Mr Subliminal]

lynch Andrius

[Mr Subliminal]

I AM town just don't think ooba'd do something that crazy-ooc as scum right from the get-go. He doesn't seem like a big gambit-er, even with little things in how he plays. Very pensive, very analytical.

Then he should be

diediedie

a townread,

kill it with fiar

, no?

[Mr Subliminal]

ooba, would you

you scum?

have self-voted if

don' kill me

you rolled a 14?

*waves hand*

[Mr Subliminal]

We don't even know white/black is cult

You know that there is a cult (the Black Lanterns).

[Mr Subliminal]

You get the

I'm town

idea.

[Mr Subliminal]

Let Toast bus,

lynch Andy

.

[Mr Subliminal]

Just to make sure, do you know who all the hydras are mastin?

[Mr Subliminal]

You missed at least two hydras.
And I meant who's in them, because it can lead to useful meta.

[Mr Subliminal]

You missed at least two hydras.

Andy and Toast are scum

[Mr Subliminal]

I'd rather

I'm town

lynch Toast second. Just look at that

sheep me

bus.

[Mr Subliminal]

Do you agree that Toast is

hot sex

Andy's buddy?

[Mr Subliminal]

You missed at least two hydras.

*waves hand*
Thinking about another game.

But look at the bussing.

[Mr Subliminal]

So, lynch Andrius, first half of day one.
Lynch ooba, second half of day one.

[Mr Subliminal]

^^Vote on me was bad.

Hello, scum.

[Mr Subliminal]

Andy, Toast, and Toog are all scum.
ooba is scum via mastin.
Lynch accordingly.
Too damn tired right now

hot sex last night

to plant messages or explain, though I will if you

please don't ask

request.

[Mr Subliminal]

I can't find any

he's lying

character named Freezer on the Google. I think he's trying to

why vezok why?

claim the DBZ character, because

he's stupid

he got BD and DBZ confused? So either he's

lynch Andrius

lying scum or a WL that slipped. Great.

[Mr Subliminal]

- AlmasterGM

ALT DETECTED?!
Oh, it was just a very unethical and cheap hydra gambit, got it.

[Mr Subliminal]

It's possible that I'm a white lantern, but I doubt it. tans could be lying I guess, but I don't know why he'd do that.

Go to Wikipedia and look up “White Lantern Corps” under the “Members” and “Labors of the Twelve” sections look to see if your character is listed. Report back with a simple Yes or No.

rolefishrolefishrolefish

[Mr Subliminal]

Meta is useful when applied properly. But it's rarely applied properly.

[Mr Subliminal]

You haven't made a list...

[Mr Subliminal]

Hey Oversoul, scumhunt, or at least pretend to.

[Mr Subliminal]

What were you doing before the list?

[Mr Subliminal]

Yes, we welcome any and

I'm town

all players to come and

sheep me

join us to play

lynch Andrius

our most momentous

hot sex

game.

[Mr Subliminal]

vezok, I want you to nameclaim. Freezer is for sure not your name.

[Mr Subliminal]

Could be Ice.

[Mr Subliminal]

Or it could end in a draw/everyone loses Andy.
muffin, Toog is scum but we're lynching Andy right now.
My flavor knowledge is a bit rusty, but Ice was a Black Lantern that was revived by the White Light but never became a White Lantern, right? Oh well, we kill of vezok pre-LYLO anyways.

[Mr Subliminal]

What made you think that

[Mr Subliminal]

In Brightest Day, scum had full fakeclaims that included everything (like win conditions) except for the picture

pornography

.

If vezokpiraka is antitown

lynch vezok

, he has a fakeclaim.

I'll defer to the Subject Matter Experts

nerds

as to whether Ice could be a White Lantern

racist

.

[Mr Subliminal]

For God's sake. Try to get this right.

We are playing in Brightest Day.

Blackest night ended.

This is really rich

sarcasm

coming from someone who has already screwed up their nameclaim

fakeclaim

.

[Mr Subliminal]

hiphlop is our claimed White Lantern, right? Are you one of those that got discharged from the Corps (like Superman), or are you one of 'The 12'?

[Mr Subliminal]

Mr.Subliminal - You're slipping. Some of your posts don't have any subliminal messages.

One head

me

is better than the other

him

at posting

he sucks

messages. Did you

CULT LEADER DETECTED

ever answer my

lynch him after Andy!

question to you?

[Mr Subliminal]

We find it scummy that you threw a role-fishing accusation against us regarding our inquiries to Nikanor but then yourselves proceed to ask similar questions to another player.

We find it scummy

mudslinging

that you try to draw a correlation

grasping at straws

between you trying to find out *if* someone who was unclaimed *is* a White Lantern

rolefishing

and us asking for details of an already made claim

not rolefishing

.

[Mr Subliminal]

Well, this is interesting

game breaking

.

[Mr Subliminal]

Scum:
Andy
Toast
ooba
Toog
FM?

Confirmed Town:
Nik
muffin
hiplop
Friend

Cool.

How many required for a lynch again?

[Mr Subliminal]

My question goes to all our outted WLs. One of the discharged, or one of the 12?

[Mr Subliminal]

My question goes to all our outted WLs. One of the discharged, or one of the 12?

[Mr Subliminal]

ooba vote incoming with consent from other head.

[Mr Subliminal]

I know a better way to find a CR.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: ooba

[Mr Subliminal]

I really feel

with my fist

that your claim would be remiss

fake

without including your win condition

these are the basics

.

For instance, I'm perfectly happy

high

to help you achieve a third-party-you-leave-the-game

lame

win condition, if you have one.

[Mr Subliminal]

Toog can be our second lynch.
tans, since when did Larfleeze (sp?) ever give ANYTHING away?

[Mr Subliminal]

Gambit or no gambit doesn't really matter. Toog is scum.
But I thought you guys were White Lanterns, not Leaguers? You both?

[Mr Subliminal]

Flavor meta is stupid

no message needed

. Either his claim is real or it's a mod-provided fakeclaim. It seems really odd coming from ooba, whose claim is based on someone who was an Orange Ring for less than 24 hours.

If Toog is anything but cult recruiter, we are better off directing his vig shot before lynching him regardless of anything else

the basics

.

[Mr Subliminal]

You're not arguing that he should be lynched because of the guilty, you're arguing he should be lynched because you say his claim doesn't make sense. You then attack the flavor of his claim.

Attacking the flavor of his claim is stupid.

I'm not saying Toog's innocent, I'm saying that your attack on him reeks as disingenuous when its well known that the mod provides scum fakeclaims.

[Mr Subliminal]

Has there been a hammer yet?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toog
Just in case.

[Mr Subliminal]

VOTE: ooba

[Mr Subliminal]

lolJOAT claim. And to make it. Better if he does flip scum we can exPect to see other lolFakeclaims because of it. (read: commuter, hider, bulletproof, guvna', etc)

*reads Andrius' words*

*looks at ooba's claim*

*looks at Andrius not voting ooba*

*spreads arms wide*

Don't know why magua is all mistrustful of MASON COP CLAIM. If you're town. You'll accept the balance and move on.

We fully believe the masonry. We didn't attack ooba because we thought Toogeloo was town; we attacked ooba because we thought his reasons for attacking Toogeloo were bs.

@MrSub - Do you believe Tans or don't you? What do you think I am - scum or cult?

We believe that Tanstalus is Larfleeze.
We're not sure which faction you are -- we just both agree you're scummy.

Unrelatedly, LLD's vote on IHSIB is bad.

I'm too lazy

drunk

to put in subliminal messages

hot sex

.

[Mr Subliminal]

OMGENIUS post incoming. Please hold your breath abatedly.

[Mr Subliminal]

Never mind, I'm just DERPALERPALISCIOUS.

[Mr Subliminal]

Here's a little bit of OMGENIUS cause I love y'all.

ooba,
Who says there's only one scumteam? I personally think we have 3 (Red, Yellow, Black).
So your defence is "Luthor is a bad fakeclaim" instead of saying "tans has confirmed me"? Interesante...

[Mr Subliminal]

Did you just say "lolicouldbeanSKbutdontlynchme"?

mod
With X alive, Y required to lynch pweez :3

[Mr Subliminal]

Mastin, you're making me too sad to write a subliminal message.
And unfortunately, your list has been proven wrong too.

[Mr Subliminal]

Mastin... against ooba lynch... does not compute.
Seriously.
You started this ooba business.

[Mr Subliminal]

YESSSS ATROCITUS D1 AGAIN.
TOWN WIN AGAIN.
CALLING IT NOW.

Didn't Cult win last time

ooba,
Who says there's only one scumteam? I personally think we have 3 (Red, Yellow, Black).

Idiot, Black is Cult. Says so in the OP.
Thanks for playing.

Scum = Anti-town.
Cult = Anti-town.
Scum = Cult.
No need to grill me for something your buddy Toast missed.

[Mr Subliminal]

You know what that's supposed to look like.

[Mr Subliminal]

Andy, a Cult is a team, is it not?

Anyway, I've devised an OMGENIUS game-breaking plan for insta-town win. But I have to wait for my Night Action to resolve, so we'll insta-win tomorrow instead.

[Mr Subliminal]

That is a precariously placed VC.

[Mr Subliminal]

Votecount 1.1.6

Toogeloo (13) - Nikanor, Lady Lambdadelta, zMuffinMan, Friend, tanstalas, ToastyToast, CandleJack, Oversoul, mastin2, nopointinactingup, Andrius, ooba, Mr. Subliminal
ooba (6) - WeyounsLastClone, Toogeloo, Apokalyptika, vezokpiraka, GhostWriter, Kast
Andrius (1) - inHimshallibe
vezokpiraka (1) - hiplop


Not Voting (3) - FrozenMirror, marco1610, kondi2424

Why not use this one instead?

[Mr Subliminal]

Did you factor in any votes between the VC and Nik's lolcopclaim?

This man is very intelligent and is asking a great question.

[Mr Subliminal]

That's nice LLD. You should know- I'm just nodding my head at your VCA, because inhim's town and all. But how is my vote jump "interesting"?

lolhiplop

[Mr Subliminal]

But how is my vote jump "interesting"?

Also, did you just claim Daytalk with your Red buddies LLD?

[Mr Subliminal]

Well, you obviously are hinting at inside access to the minds of the Red Lanterns. Interesante, no?

[Mr Subliminal]

That is a precariously placed VC.

?

Oversoul, moar scumhunting pweez :3

[Mr Subliminal]

Holy shit just ISOd you, you haven't done

anything

.

[Mr Subliminal]

Oh.
I just called it precariously placed because I thought she picked a random pre-lynch VC.

[Mr Subliminal]

Reads NAO

PEDIT: Nikanor's really growing on me.

[Mr Subliminal]

Holy shit just ISOd you, you haven't done

anything

.

I know, to be honest the mechanics of this game have me pretty lost. I've never played with a cult before and I have never played with a double voting mechanic.

And that leaves you completely incapable of scumhunting?

No, but having the cult fuck up my reads and recruit someone without me knowing makes me tentative.

ITS D1 CULT CANT HAVE RECRUITED YET
Unless dana made a Day Cult, in which case I will call in Fate to RAAAAAAGE/

[Mr Subliminal]

I'm in the Bah post Cult. If you say the trigger word, you get recruited
Andy, Cult

becomes

a team. You should know
Omigod, two winks.

PEDIT: LLD, do I need to be an abusive boyfriend again?

[Mr Subliminal]

[Mr Subliminal]

I really hope you'll see things my way

fuck you

.

[Mr Subliminal]

Why isn't Yellow Mafia? Also, you forgot Blue, Sapphire, and Indigo

[Mr Subliminal]

DONT YOU DARE CALL LLD DARLING
SHES MINE

[Mr Subliminal]

Semi-game related thought:
LLD dawling, how come none of your inhim stuff has been red/blue?

[Mr Subliminal]

When did Oversoul join your suspect list LLD?

[Mr Subliminal]

Jesus, stop that shit LLD. It makes the psychologist inside me sad.

[Mr Subliminal]

Nikanor's really growing on me.

[Mr Subliminal]

What did she softclaim? Tell me moar.

[Mr Subliminal]

Nikanor's really growing on me. Like a cyst or something.

[Mr Subliminal]

Red/Blue text isn't a softclaim silly. And y'know, outting a softclaim when you don't want to reveal it ruins the point.

[Mr Subliminal]

I'm going to have to FORCEFULLY come out and shove my reads down their fucking throats until they see what I see.

...kinky?

DONT YOU DARE

[Mr Subliminal]

Red/Blue text isn't a softclaim silly. And y'know, outting a softclaim when you don't want to reveal it ruins the point.

[Mr Subliminal]

Page doesn't exist Nik.

[Mr Subliminal]

[quote="Lady Lambdadelta"]Mastin and Subliminal are not more likely scum than inHim. Not even fucking close.

I'd be willing to take a closer look on Oversoul, but god dammit I'm OMGENIUS gamebreaking.

[Mr Subliminal]

Overtoast, are you newbtown or newbscum?

[Mr Subliminal]

mastin your name isn't Overtoast >.>

[Mr Subliminal]

Why am I always accused of being a noob. -.-

Joined : June 05, 2011

[Mr Subliminal]

Still, though. I really want to know what you see town in ooba. I see only scum.

[Mr Subliminal]

Hey FM, can you remind me why I think you're scum?

[Mr Subliminal]

nopoint be a good little townie and vote ooba.

[Mr Subliminal]

Da fuck.

[Mr Subliminal]

FrozenMirror
nopointinactingup
Mr. Subliminal
inHimshallibe
Why haven't you claimed your choices yet?

Because claiming these choices literally helps no one but the Black Ring(s) identify who the White Ring(s) are.

[Mr Subliminal]

The ooba lynch is much better than, say, the IHSIB lynch, LLD.

The only two things we see against the ooba lynch are that we think he's just scum, not cult, and (actually this is just I, as we haven't talked about it yet) tanstalas' #672 makes absolutely no sense

drugs

from any town perspective I can come up with

lyncher

.

There are enough (three, at least) white lanterns outed already for that not to be an issue. At this point it's better to just finish up choice claiming to lock everyone in.

Given that there's multiple people who have already claimed to have not gotten their first choice, we simply aren't seeing the benefit being given to the town here.

Unrelatedly, I (personally) am going to be rather busy with work today; we're transferring stuff from a different site, and I need to make sure that nothing disappears in the background. So don't expect too much else from me for awhile.

[Mr Subliminal]

Thanks for claiming scum Candle Jack

[Mr Subliminal]

wut

[Mr Subliminal]

CANDLE JACK WTFFFF

[Mr Subliminal]

So, we gonna kill CJ instead now?

[Mr Subliminal]

Tsk tsk, ongoing games Tar. Now get Ludi on a leash.

[Mr Subliminal]

Also, the whole point about the split-personality hydra was INCREDIBLY forced.

[Mr Subliminal]

You're the bestest~! <3

[Mr Subliminal]

I even managed to convince Magua, but it was just "FM seems scummy. Agree?" "Yep" in our QT. I think it has to do with you FoSing but not voting or something. Did this happen? I'm too lazy to check, so please be honest.

[Mr Subliminal]

Wouldn't you two arguing about Andy be dissonance?

[Mr Subliminal]

It's fun being the first person to call someone scum (sorry mastin, but it's

my

reason that CJ is scum ).
So we getting CJ first or can he be after ooba?

[Mr Subliminal]

FOLLOW THE JUSTICE LEAGUE CHOO CHOO
UNVOTE:
VOTE: CJ

[Mr Subliminal]

Someone claim that kill for CONFIRMED TOWN STATUS.
PEDIT: mastin >.>

[Mr Subliminal]

As the battle continues, a bright Indigo light lances out, mingling with various Green, Red, and Orange lights in the area, before hitting a target. Though meant to kill, the beam is stopped short, shredding the protection of its target. Though alive, this

hero

now lacks protection from death.

wut

grumble grumble

[Mr Subliminal]

inb4 mod says flavor is just flavor.

[Mr Subliminal]

There is no "flavor is just flavor" in the rules! There is no "don't try to outguess the mod" in the rules! YAYAYAYA

[Mr Subliminal]

LLD darling, were you shot? Because your reaction is scumtastic.

[Mr Subliminal]

Hey Mastin, it could very well still be one Orange light. It said multiple lights overall, not how many were orange. Silly mastin.

PEDIT: Rolebased stuff?

[Mr Subliminal]

WHY
Also, read the rest of my previous post pweez :3

[Mr Subliminal]

Aww, I was going to offer to protect you dear. Except for the fact that you had to be scum this game
I'm not big on flavor, when did Indigo turn evil?

[Mr Subliminal]

Sorry honey, but Indigo Tribe could still easily be town.

[Mr Subliminal]

mastin, do you think there are any Blue Rings?

[Mr Subliminal]

Magua wanted to ask because mastin doesn't think there's any Yellows, so...

[Mr Subliminal]

Why so survivalist tans? You haven't had a town mentality at all ever since ooba claimed Lex...

[Mr Subliminal]

So? You're still playing with a 3rd party mentality rather than town.

[Mr Subliminal]

It could still very easily be a mod error.
Also please not how the mod did

NOT

say that flavor is just flavory flavor.

[Mr Subliminal]

The Guardians are silly Smurfs for thinking this game hasn't been broken already.

[Mr Subliminal]

Lambiebaby, it's snuggletimes already.

[Mr Subliminal]

I promised you OMGENIUS gamebreaking and OMGENIUS gamebreaking is what you'll get. Let me write it up while I mourn LLD. Also, since she was Deadman, does that make me a necrophiliac?

[Mr Subliminal]

I am

The Entity, Embodiment of Life

. As hiplop mentioned earlier, the White Lanterns don't immediately have their White Lantern abilities. It is I who gets to send them out. Sending them out will have various effects on my other abilities, and I'd rather not fullclaim at the moment. But you should know that I've sent them out right before writing this post.

All White Lanterns are confirmed non-Cult, though they may still be Mafia/Third Party

(I personally doubt any of them are scum, but I'm going off my role PM)

.

If you have received your Ring (note: not all rings are received at the same time due to a weird mechanic), please claim so, but do not claim your name or power. I want to hold off on a lynch until I see who the WLs are, so we can move on to Step 2 of OMGENIUS gamebreaking.

Did I forget anything Magua?

[Mr Subliminal]

Subliminal, did you send one to me?

To all WLs.

[Mr Subliminal]

Obviously I've gained my ring.

That was a lot faster than I expected.

[Mr Subliminal]

The Entity is confused by these strange beings. Thankfully, Swamp Thing will take care of them...

I will reveal Step 2 before tonight.

[Mr Subliminal]

Blackberry does not concern me. Toast's powers can be used for good.

[Mr Subliminal]

Did you read the part where it's Step 1 in a gamebreaking plan?

PEDIT: I don't think so.

[Mr Subliminal]

I'm going to tinfoil again- I take it you know what I was up to last night?

hot sex

[Mr Subliminal]

Is it Black?

[Mr Subliminal]

Don't lynch ToastyToast. kthx.

[Mr Subliminal]

We are talking

hot sex

about it.

[Mr Subliminal]

Okay so guess what? I fucked up the OMGENIUS gamebreaking a bit. Luckily, it can still be salvaged.

No more WLs claim EXCEPT the following.

If you are one of the following please state whether you have received a ring yet:
- Andrius (assuming no)
- Candle Jack
- WeyounsLastClone
- GhostWriter
- ToastyToast (assuming no)
- Apokalyptika
- Oversoul

No need to have someone out themselves when they aren't in lynching range.

[Mr Subliminal]

Consider our vote essentially on Nikanor, but I want to advance to Step 2 before a lynch.

Still awaiting answers from GW and WLC.

[Mr Subliminal]

vezok, did you receive a ring?

[Mr Subliminal]

Entity claim retracted.
hiplop, splain.

[Mr Subliminal]

Even though I said that I sent them out at the beginning of this Day phase...

Anywho, WLC or Apok?

[Mr Subliminal]

Does this mean you don't have a fix to your potential game-breaking plan?

Yes, we're too dumb, so we're going with retraction rather than admit that we're wrong.

Ok.

Let's get some things clear here, since there's a lot of gambitting being done and some people are losing track of what should be the basics.

Our Entity claim was a gambit. Ignore it.

The following things are all true:

Nikanor is 100% mod-confirmed town. This isn't even in question. Asking about it will just get you laughed at.
hiplop doesn't need to explain anything as we asked in #1079, as I understand it and will explain it to my other head.

@Nikanor:

I (although not necessarily my other head) don't agree with your "Toasty is flailing" argument. Toasty's like 98% town, not for any confirmed shenanigans, but just from sheer play.

Vezokpiraka is probably town.

We have no opinion, good or bad, on Apokalyptica or WLC and are willing to see how the wagons on those form.

[Mr Subliminal]

@Subliminal: What do you think hiplop's response means?

hiplop is town. We understand the source of his confusion. He doesn't need to explain anything.

[Mr Subliminal]

What was your brilliant plan, how did you fuck it up, and how can you salvage it? Unless we can be sure the plan works, can you give us any indication we can trust you? Sorry I sound really paranoid, but when we started claiming our choices, Mr. Subliminal was one of the few who did not want to provide info, but now he's demanding information for some plan that might or might not work.

Not answering questions about the gambit. If you think we're scum for it, vote us.

You trust us based on whether you think we're town or not, through this neat little thing called "Scumhunting." Maybe look at our play, think for yourself.

One of the reasons we picked you was because you simply don't have a lot of content, and what content you have isn't very good. From our point of view, you've only voted town (ooba + ourselves), and your vote on us is pretty weak: you fencesit, saying "it does make sense," but vote us as you ask us questions rather than ask us questions and then vote us depending on the answer.

[Mr Subliminal]

Let it go, hiplop

smoke this

.

@Friend:

We wish to know if we missed something in regards to a confirmation of nopointinactingup-town, or if this is a playstyle read of yours. A simple "confirmation" or "playstyle" will suffice.

At this point, we believe the cult recruiter lies in one of the following:

- Kast
- Andrius
- WeyounsLastClone
- Apokalyptika

We would very much like to hear more

give up

from Apokalyptika and Andrius. I, in particular, think that most of Apokalyptika's votes and reads have been BS, and I don't like anything that Andrius has posted this Day.

[Mr Subliminal]

Unless I was misdirected andy is one hundred percent not cr. Though he could be mafia

You'll have to explain this more. To the best of my knowledge

skimming

, the only softclaiming that you've done is that you roleblocked Andrius (??), so I'm curious

bored

about how you get from there to saying he's 100% not cult recruiter.

[Mr Subliminal]

Hey, subliminal. Do something to make me think you can't be CR. I'm getting paranoid here.

Do you not think what we're currently doing qualifies?

[Mr Subliminal]

Looking for Cult Leader makes you less likely to be Cult Leader? O_o

More the "drawing a lot of attention to ourselves" and "making ourselves a target to be killed."

[Mr Subliminal]

That would all depend on if attention is being drawn to the right place. ... I.e., if you are accusing non-Cult of being cult, well then what's it matter? Drawing attention to the "culties" might make sense. Btw, obviously, the recruit target would be someone who is active and conviently town-like yet wouldn't draw a kill, etc., etc.

What we would like from you, Blackberry, is some indication, any indication at all, of who you think is antitown at this point. The closest we've come to seeing in your ISO is that you're fencesitting on Nikanor vs ToastyToast; we don't consider that valid as they're both town.

Everything else is a lot of disagreement on minor things without any suspicions or named names.

Please rectify.

[Mr Subliminal]

Please explain where I've fencesat on Nikanor vs. ToastyToast, thanks.

Please actually give your suspicions.

Look at it from a non-you point of view. In a game with custom mechanics where you contact players who "join" your group, I don;t see where his request is insane.

Also, as I am finding Kast largely townish, what is the cause for you putting him in your listing as possible cult-dude?

Our answer was very serious.

As for Kast: Process of elimination. The list we gave is removing all the people that we feel strongly aren't the cult recruiter. Kast is not one of those people.

It would help if I understood the thought process behind the entity claim. Because I've been going over it in my head and there are some things that don't make sense.

You say you drew attention to yourself and made it likely you'd be a NK target but... you retracted the entity claim, so like... yeah... kind of invalid. Also invalid when you consider the CR in the last game was bulletproof - I'm not sure what to make of you ignoring that.

We're not going to expound on what we gained from the entity claim at this point of time. If you think that that is suspicious of us, feel free to vote us.
Or, in plainer terms: If you think our behavior fits an antitown mindset, vote us. Asking us how we are not cult recruiter is pointless, in the same way that asking someone how they are not scum is pointless.

Do you believe the cult recruiter in this game is bulletproof as well? We don't.

[Mr Subliminal]

Does anyone know if the cultists died with the cult leader in Blackest Night?

They did not.

In a game with 2 night kills and a day kill, I'd say there's a fairly good chance CR is bulletproof, if not completely action immune (and full action immunity would make some sense given the double lynch mechanic). Why do you think this isn't the case?

Because of the ruckus

shitfest

that ensued after BNM. The three main points being "the cult recruiter being bulletproof" (because MoI had actually gotten shot N1), "known color distribution messing up fakeclaims", and "town lynches correctly every Day, still loses".

We fully expect that all of those were addressed in this game. We expect either a 1-shot bulletproof (unlikely), or more likely, multiple cult members to start the game, with perhaps a Backup Recruiter.

@WLC:

Do you think Friend is not town?

[Mr Subliminal]

We approve of IHSIB's list.

[Mr Subliminal]

VHESSKID?

[Mr Subliminal]

Did you just modconfirm the PM-Masonry?

The discussion is one that was ranging into areas that might result in a modkill.

If you wish to assume this confirms any piece of information, this is of course your prerogative.

[Mr Subliminal]

We like

lust after

Muffin Man.

VOTE: Apokalyptika

[Mr Subliminal]

The time for Apokalyptika to be claiming is now

nigh

.

[Mr Subliminal]

hiplop, Friend, we love you both

hot sex

, and we know you're town

cop investigations

.

And we're pretty confident that Apokalyptika is scum

bussing

.

Still.

Please let people claim first before hammering next time.

[Mr Subliminal]

Ok, so one cult and one mafia. Good.

A daykiller of unknown persuasion but likely a SK. Perhaps Indigo-1, judging by the D1 daykill flavor.

Moderator announcement: Fate is scum. That will be all.

Cannot tell if boasting about some other game, or an in-game mechanic in this one.

VOTE: Andrius

[Mr Subliminal]

Oh great, another modconftown
SleepyKrew derped a little in our last post. I'll explain to him that Black is Cult, not Yellow.
Andy remains to be scum, but probably groupscum.

[Mr Subliminal]

Why'd you just softclaim to one of your top scumspects?
You forget that nopoint is also lolmasonry.

[Mr Subliminal]

I guess it's good that the scum are ignorant as to who the modconftown are.
But

why

would you softclaim to a scumread?

[Mr Subliminal]

muffin, you don't trust Friend?

[Mr Subliminal]

You haven't really done anything either.

[Mr Subliminal]

Are we allowed to list Andrius?

We can agree with WLC and Kast. Will confer about the identity of the third.

[Mr Subliminal]

Sure you can, but that's counter-productive if you know what's going down.

Let me try again.

Are

sarcasm

we

tongue-in-cheek

allowed

snide

to

yanking yer chain

list

being a dick

Andrius?

Not that we aren't suspicious of you, because we are. We just understand how unlikely it is you're going to vig yourself at our request.

[Mr Subliminal]

WLC/GW (whichever doesn't get lynched)
CJ
Kast

We would like a GW lynch over a WLC lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: GW

[Mr Subliminal]

We would like GhostWriter to claim

bulletproof

.

We would like more people to be voting GhostWriter in the meantime.

[Mr Subliminal]

Please take care not to hammer before the claim

doublevoter

.

L-5 by our count currently.

[Mr Subliminal]

Okay, I'm back from V/LA. Currently rereading the game, not entirely seeing the GW lynch (although it's better than my lynch ), would be good if he posted more (I guess the same holds for me though).

You don't like the GW lynch. That's fine.

What's not fine is you not saying which lynch you'd prefer instead.

Please rectify rather immediately.

Do want to check on the three 'musketeers' muffin/Friend/Nikanor. Is one of you Aquaman? Are you JLA that turned White Lantern?

Unless you can show why this is relevant to you deciding who to lynch, this is pointless.

PEdit: A lot of this also seems to apply to Blackberry.

We

I don't want to hear about how you haven't read the thread.

We

I don't really want to hear excuses. Do want to hear who you think is scummy. Do want you to put down a vote and some reads. You've obviously read the thread enough to know you're being attacked. Contribute.

[Mr Subliminal]

Roleblocks can be announced.

Jailkeeps that roleblock and protect can be announced, because it's not likely that anyone that we're thinking of jailkeeping is going to get shot by the scum anyways.

Jailkeeps that roleblock and block all actions should not be announced, because they may block a recruitment as well.

[Mr Subliminal]

Subliminal what do you think of massclaiming?

Against it at this point.

[Mr Subliminal]

Hold the fucking phone here.

hiplop is likely Cult Recruiter

Friend was Culted last night

... doing a read on Friend, he reads very likely cult recruit after D1

Let's get this through our heads, shall we?

Blackberry says something really convincing grave here. It's even in bold. "Friend was culted." That's bad. We want to find the cult, so we pay attention.

Then we learn that Blackberry is just spewing shit. This isn't a claim of a result or an ability or an investigation, this is Blackberry saying he doesn't like how Friend has been playing, and that if Friend were culted, man, hiplop would be the one to do it.

Andrius jumps on this and is all, "I'm all over shooting you, Friend"

HIPLOP CANNOT BE THE CULT RECRUITER.

We shall emphasize this again.

HIPLOP CANNOT BE THE CULT RECRUITER.

Blackberry's just spewing bullshit and watching Andrius take it up is making us twitch. There's a very small list of people who can be the cult recruiter. These are the people who should die. Andrius saying that he would shoot someone because *Blackberry*, of all people, had a bad feeling from reading a post is just *twitch twitch twitch*.

The only thing that's twitchier is Ghostwriter not claiming. But seriously, Andrius, what the fuck?

[Mr Subliminal]

Also,

Saying someone's claim is "fairly obviously fake" sounds like scum to me. "Due mostly to the fact that it's too early in the timeline for that". I can't see a towns person saying that or having that thought as a genuine flow of logic.

Lex Luthor being a 1-shot OL signifies his short time of having the power, meaning we're still in that point in time. Furthermore, had the WL rings been sent out that night like he claimed, Deadman would have flipped WL. Outside of Swamp Thing, he's the single most important WL there is. It was clearly a fake. I'm not sure how this isn't a genuine flow of logic.

*twitch*
In the gambit, I said that I sent out all rings after Day start.

[Mr Subliminal]

BB dies a painful and horrible death if Friend flips anything except Cult. Even if he somehow flips Mafia, BB dies death. Painful and horrible death.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Friend

But my friend Friend must die a swift and just death first

[Mr Subliminal]

None of the White Lanterns are the Cult Recruiter.

I want to kill Friend because you're claiming 100% certainty he was Culted. If he wasn't, then you die. This is a 1v1 now.

NONE OF THE WHITE LANTERNS ARE THE RECRUITER

[Mr Subliminal]

BB dies a painful and horrible death if Friend flips anything except Cult. Even if he somehow flips Mafia, BB dies death. Painful and horrible death.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Friend

But my friend Friend must die a swift and just death first

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU VOTE FRIEND?????????

You are trusting BB, yet you vote who he thinks was the recruitee instead of the recruiter?

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU YELL AT ME IN YOUR POST DIRECTLY BEFORE THIS ONE?????????

[Mr Subliminal]

oh whoops
I just skimmed all the stuff after the big bolded accusation.
UNVOTE: Friend
VOTE: GW

[Mr Subliminal]

I didn't read the rest where BB said it isn't 100% confirmed and shitz. I took the big bold as a 100% certain accusation.
PEDIT OF GLORY: I WAS VOTING GW BEFORE SWITCHING TO FRIEND YOURE DOING A BAD JOB

[Mr Subliminal]

That was Magua. This is SKrew. Isn't it pretty easy to tell us apart?

[Mr Subliminal]

I'm an idiot.
~ SKrew

[Mr Subliminal]

I'm at the tipping point.
I want to vote Magua.
Because I think he's one of the best choices for CR.

But on the other hand we have GW, who's more likely mafia than CR.

And that's a much less risky lynch.
BUT.
I did just tell BB about last game- about how the lynches that we spent on nopoint and tans were "wasted" in the sense we didn't go after the CR.
And I think this is it.

So I'm a better lynch but you're still voting GW? How's that fence?

[Mr Subliminal]

How is it dumb exactly?

Mr. S seems to know Friend isn't cult in my opinon. If he was mafia partners with Friend, he would know this. If Mr. S was cult himself, he would know.

EITHER MAKES SENSE AS TO HOW MR. S WOULD KNOW FRIEND ISN'T CULT.

Or Mr. S thought you were making a Cult Cop claim.

[Mr Subliminal]

I don't care who he's a hydra with all I care about is its magua.
you dont sign your posts, so i dont have to care.

Just realized the golden nugget in here.
If Magua is all you care about, then you disregard anything I say?

[Mr Subliminal]

I figured that there was another Cult Cop.
And yes this particular head is dumb. But it's also hella sexy and wants you BB <3

Andrius, all that derpage was me and not Magua. Does that change anything?

[Mr Subliminal]

I trust BB. Usually bolded things like that in the form of "so-and-so is scum/cult/mafia/SK" are srs bsns.
So yeah I got all over it. I generally shoot/lynch people who are proven cult/mafia/SK/scum.
So yeah calling for a then-outed cultbag to get shot isn't that appalling.

BLACKBERRY DIDNT CLAIM ANYTHING.

Something that both you and the one-half-of-me-that-isn't-me seemed to have missed.

I TOOK IT AS A GUILTY, MAGUA, IF THAT WASN'T PLAIN AND APPARENT.
He didn't say "BAD FEELING" he said "friend was culted last night" which sounds alot like solid info to me, Magua.

Yes. You saw bold and you were all like "I should definitely vote on that without reading the rest of the message." WHICH APPARENTLY MY OTHER HEAD DID AS WELL.

YOU CAN SEE WHY I'M UPSET.

Anyways.

If you think we're cult, vote us. We're not going to stop you, and I, if not we, am interested in seeing the people who are willing to put their money where their mouth is.

FRIEND, DO NOT CLAIM. DO NOT FUCKING CLAIM.

Someone claims when they're about to be lynched. Not beforehand. Beforehand claiming is what the cult wants. Not what the town wants.

[Mr Subliminal]

Friend, take a nice deep breath

don't claim

. Smell the roses

don't claim

. Breathe in the smells of nature

don't claim

. Doesn't that feel relaxing

don't claim

?

[Mr Subliminal]

Yay Magua saved the day

BB SAY SORRY

[Mr Subliminal]

UNLESS BLACKBERRY FUCKING APOLOGIZES TO ME RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA DO IT

this post is so srs hes srsly gonna claim srs bsns

[Mr Subliminal]

Blackberry is either antitown, and so you claiming would be what he wants, or he's town who's honestly trying to scumhunt. His method and delivery of his thoughts is suspicious, but he is definitely not worth claiming to.