Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Mr Subliminal]

Roleblocks can be announced.

Jailkeeps that roleblock and protect can be announced, because it's not likely that anyone that we're thinking of jailkeeping is going to get shot by the scum anyways.

Jailkeeps that roleblock and block all actions should not be announced, because they may block a recruitment as well.

[Candle Jack]

Stop claiming.

I'm not exactly sure what andrius and tans are, and its best not to delve too deep. We want to limit the amount of information we give cult. If they're roleblockers, great, they can block people. If they aren't its not a good idea to let cult or mafia know that.

There are many things that could go wrong with your plan. For one, cult may now have roleblocking powers of their own, or any number of ways to get around an assigned list of people blocking them. We also don't know the alignments of everyone currently in this game, so it is quite possible that cult and/or scum and trying to influence who to action on tonight so their faction isn't effect detrimentally by whatever town is planning to do.

And that is glossing over the fact that there is still a scum team out there, and they would like nothing more than all the town power roles to claim so they know where they are standing.

And you also addressed another concern, if one of you is in fact not town aligned, this whole planning thing becomes seriously anti-town skewed, and starts to hurt town.

[Andrius]

Subliminal what do you think of massclaiming?

I'm still down for it because we're outing a solid number of PRs each day with little claims and actionclaims and organization like this.

Question goes for Nik too. Especially because the longer we dilly-dally the more the cult will be able to reach its fingers into our ranks and eat away at the masonry and our playerlist.

[Mr Subliminal]

Subliminal what do you think of massclaiming?

Against it at this point.

[Blackberry]

Logically speaking, there is probably a DOCTOR and a COP that can find mafia. Why out those?

WTF Andrius?

[Andrius]

Because the game's already broken.
We've got a massive list of non-CR's and a smaller-than-most list of potential CRs.
A well organized and concentrated massclaim would give us all the information we need.

Perhaps the massclaim could be limited to the potential-CR list.
That would do alot of good IF AND ONLY IFF he's actually in there.

If he's someone hiding within the masonry coughSubliminalcough that's coasting by generally seen as obvtown then the massclaim does nothing save out whatever roles are outed.
Basically you need to take the entire playerlist, cross off all the claimed WHITE LANTERNS that are proven, cross off the Orange Lantern Corps, and you have your list of potential CRs.

Plant a massclaim within that and you SHOULD have him.

Its not that hard.

[Andrius]

- nopointinactingup - WLC
- Kast
- Andrius - OLC
- Candle Jack
- WeyounsLastClone
- marco1610 Blackberry
- hiplop - WLC
- Mr. Subliminal
- GhostWriter
- ToastyToast - OLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Bogre Friend - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- kondi2424 PeregrineV
- inHimshalibe - Holding ground that he's not CR based on the Red-Miller claim.
- Oversoul

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WLC
- nopointinactingup - WLC
- vezokpiraka - WLC
- Bogre Friend - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- hiplop - WLC

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Andrius - OLC
- ToastyToast - OLC

TOWNIER THAN THOU
- inHimshalibe - Holding ground that he's not CR based on the Red-Miller claim.
- Candle Jack - Holding ground he's town over anything
- marco1610 Blackberry - Holding that he's town

- Kast
- kondi2424 PeregrineV
- Oversoul
- WeyounsLastClone
- Mr. Subliminal
- GhostWriter

Bolded is my list of potential CRs.
If he's not found in here then Idk what to do because WLCs are supposedly all non-cult and he's not to be found in the OLC.

So.
We could concentrate a massclaim within the bolded names.
If we do that then we should be able to find the CR within the claims.
Its not that hard, gentlemen.

[Andrius]

Oh yeah and tell me if I fucked up anyone in the WLC category/left someone out/included someone who shouldn't be there.

[zMuffinMan]

vezok and nopoint are not white lanterns.

[PeregrineV]

I'm OK with it as long as town isn't retarded about using the information.

[Andrius]

vezok and nopoint are not white lanterns.

nopoint was cleared by Friend.
At this point we must trust in Friend's townieness and

Hope

that his read/information is both sound and correct.

vezok claimed White Lantern Day One, yes?
I distinctly remember facepalming when I read it.

Peregrine cites Marketplace Mafia.
Do you remember, Peregrine (Note: I was both reviewer and Backup mod to the game; Subliminal is part Magua) that only the scum claimed non-Entrepenuers? You can always find the scum within the massclaim. You just need to know where to look.

[Andrius]

Ok so I reread vezok's beginning iso (couldn't figure out how to make the multi-quote work) but he did retract the WL claim.

I will update the list.

[Andrius]

Wait. Wait.

I actually Fail at reading.

I'm some girl called Freezer that is dressed in white.

Yesterday I just checked my choices and remembered that the pic had a white girl = white lantern. Apparently I fail hard when I'm sleepy.

WTF?

I picked 1)non latern
2)Colored lantern
3) Black/white lantern and I got a white lantern????

No really WTF?

- nopointinactingup - WLC
- Kast
- Andrius - OLC
- Candle Jack
- WeyounsLastClone
- marco1610 Blackberry
- hiplop - WLC
- Mr. Subliminal
- GhostWriter
- ToastyToast - OLC
- vezokpiraka
- tanstalas - OLC
- Bogre Friend - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- kondi2424 PeregrineV
- inHimshalibe - Holding ground that he's not CR based on the Red-Miller claim.
- Oversoul

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WLC
- nopointinactingup - WLC
- Bogre Friend - WLC
- Nikanor - WLC
- zMuffinMan - WLC
- hiplop - WLC

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC
- Andrius - OLC
- ToastyToast - OLC

TOWNIER THAN THOU
- inHimshalibe - Holding ground that he's not CR based on the Red-Miller claim.
- Candle Jack - Holding ground he's town over anything
- marco1610 Blackberry - Holding that he's town

- Kast
- kondi2424 PeregrineV
- Oversoul
- WeyounsLastClone
- Mr. Subliminal
- GhostWriter
- vezokpiraka

Bolded is my list of potential CRs.
If he's not found in here then Idk what to do because WLCs are supposedly all non-cult and he's not to be found in the OLC.

So.
We could concentrate a massclaim within the bolded names.
If we do that then we should be able to find the CR within the claims.
Its not that hard, gentlemen.

List updated in the quote.

[Blackberry]

hiplop is likely Cult Recruiter

Friend was Culted last night

... doing a read on Friend, he reads very likely cult recruit after D1

D2, he asks for the kill to be claimed and his general flow of conversation suggests to me he was cult recruited. I think he wanted to know who Vig was so they could recruit him. I think it's a possibility people still maintain their abilities after being recruited and thus why the information is needed.

Thus, Friend is Cult-Recruited. Hiplop is moreso a guess though based on Friend's reacts and who he is defending yet trying to avoid.

...

Given my idea that I strongly believe Friend was culted, I can't see WLC as Cult.

... Also, it's intended for Andrius to get culted tonight if cult believes he isn't mafia. But me outting this might screw things up.

Let's see where this goes.

[Blackberry]

Errr, correction in my post. WLC = GW.

[Blackberry]

Something doesn't feel right about the GW wagon. It's too fast to be on scum

Nevertheless,

@Mod:I'm going on VLA for 3 busy days so don't prod me <3 Thanks

Also, my very first opinion of this post was that it was scummy. Perhaps it is the WAY you said it. If you were scum and GW flipped scum, it'd be in use of defense. If you are scum and GW flipped town, this gives you the "I told you so" card that mafia would know about in advance. However, after reading through a bit, I agree this GW thing doesn't seem right to me. At the very least, if we're going for CULT RECRUITER, I don't see any reason for GW to be the Cult Recruiter.

I would like nopoint to elaborate on his initial impression. "Something doesn't feel right" I agree with. But your short post makes me feel like you could just be scum saying that so you can either pull out the "I told you so card" or so that if GW is a mafia-partner you can make this short comment and allow OTHERS to agree with you.

[Blackberry]

My problem with WLC is that MrS's Entity claim was fairly obviously fake, due mostly to the fact that it's too early in the timeline for that. Yet WLC seems to try to discredit the White Lanterns. In conjunction with Ooba's train of thought yesterday, I'm really feeling like WLC is indeed the CR.

I will say that GW probably is mafia-sided, but not CR.

Saying someone's claim is "fairly obviously fake" sounds like scum to me. "Due mostly to the fact that it's too early in the timeline for that". I can't see a towns person saying that or having that thought as a genuine flow of logic.

While I think GW is probably scum, let's find Friend's CR. Mmmmk?

[Andrius]

Friend was Culted last night

Someone kill Friend please.
With dignity.

... Also, it's intended for Andrius to get culted tonight if cult believes he isn't mafia. But me outting this might screw things up.

Oh BBB, the CR would know that above all I hate being culted.
I'd rather die than be culted.

Wait, you KNOW that they're going for me?
I'm suddenly very afraid.
I'm going to meditate on what you've said.
BB is still town, for those of you at home.

BB, if Friend cleared nopoint, do you think nopoint is also cult with him?
That makes sense. In Succession I the winning cult recruited the person their Cop investigated the night before.

I think that GW and Friend should be either killed (naming that core the Vig Corps) or be dealt with by the Orange Corps.

BB you rock. <3

I knew I was right to trust in you.

[Andrius]

BB if the masonry has taught us ANYTHING its that they can't be cult.
So hiphop can't be cult.
Mafia, yes.
Cult, no.
Unless the whole masonry thing was just trolling the players but.

[The Book of Oa]

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Ghostwriter (8) -

Nikanor, Mr. Subliminal, Friend, Andrius, PeregrineV, inHimshallibe, tanstalas, vezokpiraka

vezokpiraka (2) -

hiplop, WeyounsLastClone

WeyounsLastClone (1) -

nopointinactingup

PeregrineV (1) -

Candle Jack

Not Voting (6) -

Kast, Blackberry, GhostWriter, ToastyToast, Oversoul, zMuffinMan


With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch and 9 to no lynch.

Deadline for the second lynch expires in:

(expired on 2011-08-27 03:30:00)

V/LAs:

Friend: 08/15 - 08/20
hiplop: 08/16 - 08/18
ToastyToast: 08/17 - 08/20
nopointinactingup: 08/17 - 08/20

[hiplop]

wait; I just noticed: where the fuck was i cleared by FRIEND?

Book of Oa, im back from v/la

[Andrius]

You weren't cleared by friend.

nopoint was. (That was my impression- perhaps wrong like the vezok thing, but).

[hiplop]

Oh I read BB post wrong then. Carry on

[Friend]

Um..what the fuck? I did NOT get culted last night. Plus I called hiplop town D1 so your "hiplop CR recruited Friend" theory has a pretty giant fuckin hole right there.

[Friend]

And I've been FUCKING VLA SO IF YOU'RE CALLING ME CULTED FOR LURKING FUCK YOU