Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Blackberry]

Hey, subliminal. Do something to make me think you can't be CR. I'm getting paranoid here.

Do you not think what we're currently doing qualifies?

Looking for Cult Leader makes you less likely to be Cult Leader? O_o

[Mr Subliminal]

Looking for Cult Leader makes you less likely to be Cult Leader? O_o

More the "drawing a lot of attention to ourselves" and "making ourselves a target to be killed."

[Blackberry]

Looking for Cult Leader makes you less likely to be Cult Leader? O_o

More the "drawing a lot of attention to ourselves" and "making ourselves a target to be killed."

That would all depend on if attention is being drawn to the right place. ... I.e., if you are accusing non-Cult of being cult, well then what's it matter? Drawing attention to the "culties" might make sense. Btw, obviously, the recruit target would be someone who is active and conviently town-like yet wouldn't draw a kill, etc., etc.

[Mr Subliminal]

That would all depend on if attention is being drawn to the right place. ... I.e., if you are accusing non-Cult of being cult, well then what's it matter? Drawing attention to the "culties" might make sense. Btw, obviously, the recruit target would be someone who is active and conviently town-like yet wouldn't draw a kill, etc., etc.

What we would like from you, Blackberry, is some indication, any indication at all, of who you think is antitown at this point. The closest we've come to seeing in your ISO is that you're fencesitting on Nikanor vs ToastyToast; we don't consider that valid as they're both town.

Everything else is a lot of disagreement on minor things without any suspicions or named names.

Please rectify.

[Blackberry]

Please explain where I've fencesat on Nikanor vs. ToastyToast, thanks.

[PeregrineV]

Hey, subliminal. Do something to make me think you can't be CR. I'm getting paranoid here.

Do you not think what we're currently doing qualifies?

Look at it from a non-you point of view. In a game with custom mechanics where you contact players who "join" your group, I don;t see where his request is insane.

Also, as I am finding Kast largely townish, what is the cause for you putting him in your listing as possible cult-dude?

[zMuffinMan]

@subliminal

It would help if I understood the thought process behind the entity claim. Because I've been going over it in my head and there are some things that don't make sense.

You say you drew attention to yourself and made it likely you'd be a NK target but... you retracted the entity claim, so like... yeah... kind of invalid. Also invalid when you consider the CR in the last game was bulletproof - I'm not sure what to make of you ignoring that.

[Mr Subliminal]

Please explain where I've fencesat on Nikanor vs. ToastyToast, thanks.

Please actually give your suspicions.

Look at it from a non-you point of view. In a game with custom mechanics where you contact players who "join" your group, I don;t see where his request is insane.

Also, as I am finding Kast largely townish, what is the cause for you putting him in your listing as possible cult-dude?

Our answer was very serious.

As for Kast: Process of elimination. The list we gave is removing all the people that we feel strongly aren't the cult recruiter. Kast is not one of those people.

It would help if I understood the thought process behind the entity claim. Because I've been going over it in my head and there are some things that don't make sense.

You say you drew attention to yourself and made it likely you'd be a NK target but... you retracted the entity claim, so like... yeah... kind of invalid. Also invalid when you consider the CR in the last game was bulletproof - I'm not sure what to make of you ignoring that.

We're not going to expound on what we gained from the entity claim at this point of time. If you think that that is suspicious of us, feel free to vote us.
Or, in plainer terms: If you think our behavior fits an antitown mindset, vote us. Asking us how we are not cult recruiter is pointless, in the same way that asking someone how they are not scum is pointless.

Do you believe the cult recruiter in this game is bulletproof as well? We don't.

[Nikanor]

Blackberry, you aren't actually scumhunting right now.

Unvote. Vote: Apokalyptika.

Getting bored. We can probably win just through PoE.
Does anyone know if the cultists died with the cult leader in Blackest Night?

[Friend]

Let it go, hiplop

smoke this

.

@Friend:

We wish to know if we missed something in regards to a confirmation of nopointinactingup-town, or if this is a playstyle read of yours. A simple "confirmation" or "playstyle" will suffice.

At this point, we believe the cult recruiter lies in one of the following:

- Kast
- Andrius
- WeyounsLastClone
- Apokalyptika

We would very much like to hear more

give up

from Apokalyptika and Andrius. I, in particular, think that most of Apokalyptika's votes and reads have been BS, and I don't like anything that Andrius has posted this Day.

Confirmation.

[zMuffinMan]

@subliminal,

I don't think you need to be dealt with at this point in time. At least not before Apok is lynched. My plan right now is lynch Apok, see flip, go from there.

Also, my paranoia about you stems not so much from "anti-town" intentions as trying-to-look-like-town-gambiting. I also have two other reasons for my paranoia that I'd rather not go into detail about at this point in time.

In a game with 2 night kills and a day kill, I'd say there's a fairly good chance CR is bulletproof, if not completely action immune (and full action immunity would make some sense given the double lynch mechanic). Why do you think this isn't the case?

[inHimshallibe]

DISCLAIMER: I don't remember all the claims, and won't get myself around to figuring out everything just yet. From memory:

The Wonder Quads

- nopointinactingup
- Nikanor
- Friend
- zMuffinMan

Town

- ToastyToast
- vezokpiraka
- tanstalas
- hiplop
- Mr. Subliminal
- inHimshallibe

Floaters but probably not CR

- GhostWriter
- Oversoul
- PeregrineV
- Blackberry

Bad

- Kast
- Andrius
- WeyounsLastClone
- Apokalyptika
- Candle Jack

Shoot holes in this.

[inHimshallibe]

Toasty isn't town, bah. :|

[zMuffinMan]

Actually the "wonder quads" includes hiplop but not npiau. npiau is town according to friend.

[inHimshallibe]

I knew I forgot something.

[WeyounsLastClone]

@Friend, are you WL or not?

Maybe I'm missing something, but in post 316 you say

I am neither white nor black, strangely enough.

Then in post 910 you say

Because I'm a WL and I'm town. The others are too.

[Friend]

I was confused when I got my role PM. I am a WL, but my name is written in a different color so yeah.

[Andrius]

Yeah so I'm overcommitted right now and need to do alot of work for school, games I'm reviewing, and catching up on sleep.
I'll read and post tonight- at least this'll keep me from hypo-posting like Monday.

<3

-AKW

[WeyounsLastClone]

I was confused when I got my role PM. I am a WL, but my name is written in a different color so yeah.

What team did you think you were in at first then?

[Mr Subliminal]

Does anyone know if the cultists died with the cult leader in Blackest Night?

They did not.

In a game with 2 night kills and a day kill, I'd say there's a fairly good chance CR is bulletproof, if not completely action immune (and full action immunity would make some sense given the double lynch mechanic). Why do you think this isn't the case?

Because of the ruckus

shitfest

that ensued after BNM. The three main points being "the cult recruiter being bulletproof" (because MoI had actually gotten shot N1), "known color distribution messing up fakeclaims", and "town lynches correctly every Day, still loses".

We fully expect that all of those were addressed in this game. We expect either a 1-shot bulletproof (unlikely), or more likely, multiple cult members to start the game, with perhaps a Backup Recruiter.

@WLC:

Do you think Friend is not town?

[Mr Subliminal]

We approve of IHSIB's list.

[ToastyToast]

@Muffin: I see where your coming from, but there isn't really a scum motivation for Mr. Subliminal's gambit either. I think he simply had an idea that didn't work as well as he thought it would.

Also, I agree with inHim's list with the exceptions of vezok and tans, who I'm not willing to call town at this point

[Friend]

My name in the role PM is in yellow. I thought I was a yellow lantern.

Anyways this whole thing WLC is doing is more reason for him to die.

[Blackberry]

I was confused when I got my role PM. I am a WL, but my name is written in a different color so yeah.

I was also confused for a moment when I got my role PM.

Friend is town. ^_^

[Friend]

Down with inhim's list. I'd feel comfortable lynching any baddie on there.