Team Mafia: Pick Your Power (Game Over)

[Papa Zito]

VOTE: GreyICE

Because this is going to happen anyway.

[Papa Zito]

oh god the numbers already

[Papa Zito]

Hey guys, really sorry to do this cuz it looks like you lot are turboposting, but something major's come up that I have to deal with. I'll try to check in later.

[Papa Zito]

Let me catch you kids up on real-world events real quick:

1. My father-in-law died on Sunday
2. My wife's car blew it's engine today

I'm expecting the house to catch on fire any second.


Regarding game stuff, uh. All this numbers business is going right over my head and I have no idea why people are splitting things up into arbitrary groups. I don't see why we don't just play the game and lynch the scumz like normal. All the speculation about what they could do or might do or whatever is just noise that lets them dig in deeper.

Browsing, I like LLD and Spy. GreyICE is being GreyICE again, so who knows. Amrun's backpedalling is a major twitch.

DDD, top 3?

UNVOTE: GreyICE
VOTE: PranaDevil


P.S. I prolly missed questions directed my way, restate plz.

[Papa Zito]

What does your second sentence mean.

Yes, you blame your poor teammates, I get that.

[Papa Zito]

Infuriating isn't it?

[Papa Zito]

Yeah you've said that a few times. I've read it. I don't really believe it tho.

[Papa Zito]

I think that there’s too much lynch discussion happening based on number speculation right now. When we have information to use; then we can use it but right now I can come up with at least three or more different plausible theories for scum behavior in regards to numbers so to base today’s lynch even somewhat on that and not on who is scummy seems like a massive mistake.

Amen.

This is not a top 3 tho.

[Papa Zito]

I want more out of Zito

sup Spy

What do you want out of Zito exactly? Cuz this game is basically numbers, walls and Faraday and I'm not feeling any of it.

Also car shopping suuuucks


Re: PranaDevil, every post from that quarter is numbers, setup speculation, or random reads based on daffodils and fairy kisses.


P.S. DDD continues to avoid even daffodil reads and seems to enjoy telling us what his team did, why is there no wagon questionmark

[Papa Zito]

Wait are we really playing the run-everyone-to-claim game? Really?

[Papa Zito]

Every damn time I wagon GreyICE for doing something stupid and scummy (oh yes it's happened many times before already) he comes up town anyway. But sure I'll go read him brb.

[Papa Zito]

So there's the weird number thing, which was immediately backed off with "just joking lol"

Then iso 6 was bad. So much stuff about Hoopla, so vote: Slaxx. Also sweet dissonant notes of:

I need a good solid scum lead before I start the pressure

Vote: Slaxx

No one's paying attention to you, and this bothers meeeeeeeeeeee

lol? Which he again contradicts later with

Not really. I didn't have a read on you. I wanted one. I used my vote to get one. Votes are tools.

Then his pressure on Slaxx consists of such gems as

Well that and something smells in that reads list.

and

Is it crap because I'm wrong?

Or because I'm right for the 'wrong reasons?

I'm not really sure how he came to a town conclusion on Slaxx, even with all that hard work put in but.

An intricate dance: a Kise vote for __________ which he does __________ with, followed up by Quadz, and Faraday, and oh yeah Hoopla was in there somewhere too. It's like vote: anyone, see what sticks, with Amrun getting derailed just cuz of claim.

Well until Faraday.

SSBF, Quadz, Faraday, and Hoopla

If this is the list of dem scums why are you bouncing back and forth between them so much.

You like playing the numbers game, if those are the scum you have a much better chance hitting a scum PR with quadz and Hoops, and you said Hoops is scary scum before why aren't you trying harder to nail them instead of Faraday who's most likely goon if anything. Does.Not.Compute.

So okay here we go again.

UNVOTE: PranaDevil
VOTE: GreyICE

[Papa Zito]

I TOLD you I actually liked that game even if it was lolpuppets. It wasn't SC2 but goddamn what is.

My answer on Amrun is get some results and see how they shake out. I suspect No ResultFest but I live to be surprised.

What am I missing.

[Papa Zito]

*squeeze the juice*

We do not have enough.

Yeah I def need to read Faraday. I better do it before the modflip on ohnoeeees

wait Quadz is in this game? Well hell.

[Papa Zito]

So I read Faraday and then Grey's case.

Most of Grey's case is playstyle, and a couple of the non-playstyle points I disagree with. Like if the point of his existence is to out PRs then why auto-clear quadz. And why box himself in with so many town reads.

He posted a full town->scum list, how is that not evolving reads?

etc

So no I don't think Faraday's scum.

[Papa Zito]

GreyICE is stupid.

This is why Quadz is town. I'm totally willing to outguess like a champ. Unless his team got 4 scum pm's there's no way he's not town.

This is stupid.

Massclaim is stupid.

fffffffff

VOTE: Prana

Someone explain the SSBF wagon.

[Papa Zito]

This is why Quadz is town. I'm totally willing to outguess like a champ. Unless his team got 4 scum pm's there's no way he's not town.

This is stupid.

It's really not. Why do you think so?

Because meta is stupid and this just takes it to it's ultimate retarded conclusion.

It's as simple as "Hay guyz nobody would think we'd pick me for scum free wins weeee"

[Papa Zito]

Step 1: Read his ISO (won't take you long, only 4 posts)
Step 2: Read his only 2 content posts again.
Step 3: Click on the Links to those 2 posts.
Step 4: Read the reactions and debunking of said cases.
Step 5: See his lack of response to any questions, focusing only on a defense of his precious case.
Step 6: Watch him lurk.
Step 7: ???
Step 8: Profit.

The lurking comment mighty carry more weight if he was posting elsewhere on the site.

Also I liked that he was actually playing the game and not fondling random number sets.

I'm not seeing a lack of response to your questions.

[Papa Zito]

y halo thar

I'm reading this mess brb

[Papa Zito]

K.

I'll be your vig for tonight.

[Papa Zito]

(still reading [not happy] tho)

[Papa Zito]

So Prana continues true to form. Lynch plz.

<3 Kise. Why is Hoops scum tho? (Agree with DDD)

<3 LLD, that's good votes. (sidenote: Prana's sudden LLD-is-scum is lulz, along with the pairing nonsense)

blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh massclaim bs

DDD, Quadz has done some things, who's scummier of the two?

[Papa Zito]

2.)PZ shoots one of (Faraday / SSBF)
2a.)The other gets lynched.

Why just these two.

[Papa Zito]

This plan is ignoring Prana.

I disapprove.

+1

Zito

and

Slaxx

; why did you go for the vigs?

Vig is my favorite and my best. I'm more wondering why nobody else went for the vigs.

Why are you basing Spy's possible alignment on goofy conspiracy theories.

[Papa Zito]

I'm not vigging LL ffs.

[Papa Zito]

Like there's no WAY SSBF can live untill tomorrow.

SSBF promised content by Wednesday or /out. Why not just wait and see.

I didn't think there was anyway the tracker fell that far.

So you think it's a fakeclaim then? Then he's what, goon?

Also why did you just call Spy town and then for a Spy vig shot?

my preference is for the 1's, considering we have two scummy players in SSBF and SpyreX sitting there. We also know, that only one of them can be scum.

How do we know this.

P.S. Happy birthday!
P.P.S. Banking everything on the numbers business is, as a famous philosopher once said, moonbeams. Can we play mafia plz tia.

[Papa Zito]

I think it's certainly possible someone is lying trying to cover up going for a more pro-scum role, namely the JK.

Day 1:

GreyICE the Town Jailkeeper was Lynched

You mean that JK?

It's in the context of a SSBF lynch and a town-flip; if we're "locking down the 1's" SpyreX has an infinitely greater chance of being scum than I do and thus if the options are him getting vigged or me getting vigged; it's an easy call.

gawd the numbers

We can spin just about any stupid idea we want with the damn numbers.

[Papa Zito]

I'm trying to figure out what exactly your point is, so in the meanwhile I'm just going to say yes.

...

You're saying you think SSBF claimed Tracker to cover up for the flipped town JailKeeper.

wat

Anyone in here going "the numbers aren't important to look at, lets just lynch a scum read regardless of those" might want to take a look over the previous games and then tell us that the numbers are unimportant.

Ok.

If we have to have this conversation: Why is the second number not important?

[Papa Zito]

I got this game by default cuz my teammates wanted the games they got and I aim to please.

From my perspective I don't really care about what numbers they did or didn't pick, at the end of the day they're all gonna be dead anyway so who cares what shiny toys they got.

But I'm gonna go look at those other games and see what magic was wrought with all this numerology.


@DDD: Ok.

So why don't we have him follow Hoops, who isn't gonna claim her target beforehand, and see if he gets the right result then.

Unless the planets align just so and Scorpio is in the 5th house so that means they're scum together?

[Papa Zito]

Well there's your problem; SSBF claimed VT who tried for tracker not that he is/was the tracker. I was skeptical that tracker was the role that SSBF actually requested because I have a hard time thninking anyone would think it would fall that far. I know I probably wasn't super-explicit in my original statement but it really shouldn't have been hard for you to make the right connections.

Same thing appplies even more extremely to LLD, but town read on her otherwise so ya know.

wait wait wait

ok

So you believe the vanilla claim just not the "I tried for tracker" claim.

So what was he supposed to pick in that slot? How does your theory reconcile with both vigs sitting rock bottom?


@Prana: Spy's first post gave my eyes a nice marshmallow glaze so I moved on.

Also I don't want you to track Hoops (well you can if you want), I was trying to live in DDD's world.

Also also you're starting to sound like Zorblag.

[Papa Zito]

Doublepostin, across the universe
On the Starship Enterprise, under Captain Kirrrrrrrk

Pretty confidently town (i.e. I would actively be shocked and awed if scum live here):
Slaxx

wat

Fairly confident (in order):
Quadz
Prana

wat


Your READS I do not understand them.

[Papa Zito]

This is stupid but whatever

Who am I shooting.

P.S.

Slaxx, at 13, if he is scum would have every reason to claim VT. N3 Vig puts a bullseye on his back and it is a great place to hide (further, if he was scum and NOT scum with the GC a VT claim there looks really nice and shiny). Additionally, since he couldn't keep it in his pants and said he was a PR early, he in essence took a HUGE gamble as scum that all the roles weren't claimed before him. At the spot he did, makes no sense.

Why can't he be N3 vig + scum? Seems advantage is more to not lie and thus not have to worry about fakeclaim shenanigans.

His active lurking is super hardcore and I just don't grok a townread there.

[Papa Zito]

Oh look it's Kise.

Zito;

If SSBF is town, you shoot SpyreX.
If SSBF is scum, you shoot quadz.

I don't like shooting my friends. Is shooting SpyreX == numerology again?

[Papa Zito]

I thought the point of all this number stupidity was to make groups of people with same numbers.

Super Smash Bros. Fan ( 1 , 3 )
Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 1 , 1 ) <--- Random Winner
SpyreX ( 1 , 1 ) <--- Random Loser

If SSBF flips town why wouldn't I shoot DDD instead of SpyreX.

F)J@I#$JG)(M(#$JKF

[Papa Zito]

(so many ninjas omg)

[Papa Zito]

Marry me LLD. Together we can make a better world.

[Papa Zito]

Yes cuz NUMBERS OMG THE NUMBERS.

I don't see Hoops help me here.

[Papa Zito]

Faraday, why is SSBF worse than Slaxx?

You contend SSBF is scum cuz he's not posting. (you know, despite not posting anywhere) Slaxx is active lurking. Why is he town and SSBF scum.

[Papa Zito]

SPYREX.

ZITO.

FRIENDS. ROMANS. TOWNIES.

LEND ME YOUR VOTES.

THE TIME IS UPON US TO RID OURSELVES OF THE SCOURGE OF HOOPLA-SCUM.

I don't see Hoops help me here.

[Papa Zito]

He's scum because he's scum

fffffffff

it's just his few posts he has are scummy.

howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Slaxx looks pretty town to me. Don't see it at all at all.

howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww



P.S. oh god the sudden chaos ITT

[Papa Zito]

FFS I can't keep up with this thread.

Why would Faraday bus the hell out of SSBF all damn day long if they're a scumteam.

I get your points LLD (obv) but I seem to remember Hoops doing more than what you're describing.


CHAOS REIGNS WTF

[Papa Zito]

Gut town read on Slaxx.

Well golly gee let's throw a parade.

As for SSBF, read his iso. Really, you don't see it? Really?I'm kinda shocked.

I see quality vs quantity. UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE

You've a point with the claim business but.

[Papa Zito]

LLD: Prana is scum y/n?

[Papa Zito]

And again: Tue May 24, 2011 4:39 pm

I just want to keep this clear.

He's not vanished from the face of the earth. He's in ONE game and he's been on site and not posting.

Harf. I concede this then.

[Papa Zito]

ok wait what are we doing then

Also there's a lot of people not talking

Also also Kise was going to do something magical I think

[Papa Zito]

This is because Slaxx is mafierz dammit

[Papa Zito]

1. Niece had emergency appendectomy, was ~4 hours from death
2. Other niece sliced toe in two, had to be rushed to emergency room, almost lost it
3. Father-in-law died
4. Wife's car died

[Papa Zito]

Zito should be aimed at SpyreX in the case of a SSBF town flip based purely on the conditional that he doesn't want to shoot "a friend". I know not everyone (or anyone) agrees with me, but Zito gives me an indescribable tickle in the back of my throat and I'm not willing to clear him as so many of you apparently are. Basically on the outside case of SSBF town, I want a second scum caught in Zito via links to SpyreX if I end up dead N2 and not under no more suspicion because "well we told him he could kill DDD if SSBF flips town".

Yes this paragraph was not entirely written with self-preservation in mind.

UNVOTE: Prana
VOTE: SSBF

[Papa Zito]

Zito gives me an indescribable tickle in the back of my throat

Yes look at them facts. I dunno why I was trying to argue in the face of this avalanche of evidence.

[Papa Zito]

I would taunt you about me ruining your plans to kill me and get away with it but I'm still holding out hope that SSBF flips scum and makes that paranoia look foolish anyways.

Yes if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dog.

Though you're right SSBF will probably make all this academic.

[Papa Zito]

Mastin would make sweet, sweet love to that wall.

It'll take some time for me to parse.

I see we're doing more plans again. Can someone chime in on these things. I just want to shoot somebody.

[Papa Zito]

metaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

If there's no objections I can go with the PranaPlan.

[Papa Zito]

I think Regfan is really whittling away some of LLD's credibility. SpyreX; what's your take on the Regfan/LLD back and forth?

*twitch*

[Papa Zito]

1. Absolutely
2. This reads as "oh good I can change my reads"

I mean what made you feel the need to post that first bit.

[Papa Zito]

Because it struck me as a weird interaction between the two

What's weird about it. It's goofy meta-based attacks and responses.

Do you put a lot of stock in meta?



P.S. This day really probably needs to end.

[Papa Zito]

Regfan what do you think of The Plan.

Also Kise what are you doing.

[Papa Zito]

No. I don't agree with the plan then. Heck no. If SSBF flips town DDD and SpyreX are not good shots at all. If SSBF flips town either Faraday or LLD need rope.

Bluh. Is this more space numbers.

[Papa Zito]

Happy scumday Kise!

Thank God, this day srsly needed to end.

[Papa Zito]

FJ*(Q@$T*IJFQ#)@TJ:LFJH:(O@*WHFV:P@*FNP:)@(*HNF{()T}!)*TYH@NI
|(#HT

Okay this bullshit is EXACTLY WHY I'm retiring. Because I do nothing but fuck up nowadays. Jesus.

Fuck you Papa Zito.

Yes I know <3 you too.

Zito, why did you kill SpyreX over DDD?

Because I'm an idiot.

But also because the more I looked at his play at the end of the day the less I liked it.

How do you know this is mylo?

Zito, can you confirm that you did shoot Spyrex and not Regfan?

Yeah I shot Spy. I should have just stuck with what I wanted to do and shot DDD.

[Papa Zito]

Different choice, same end result.

BUT THE NUMBERS

OH GOD THE NUMBERS

Waiting on results at which point no lynch is probably the correct play.

If this is mylo then yes.

[Papa Zito]

Oh yay I get to be Faraday's tunneling target today, go me.


@Hoopla: Stick a VI label on me and reread the game. All shall become clear.

[Papa Zito]

Well I'm not retiring cuz I'm old.

Can you point to the posts you "disliked" yesterday? What changed exactly?

Spy's main grief with SSBF was that the guy was lurking about the site but not posting here. Valid. But once ani replaced in and started posting there was no attempt to re-evaluate.

Also the "slip" was bunk.

[Papa Zito]

Guess who did two kills last night? Yup, Zito.

You're slavering over that perfect scum win eh? Now that you know Kise is out of shots. Which is why you had to go last, obv.

This doesn't explain that little song and dance you were doing at the beginning of the day either.

Hoopla not only pushed Zito before she knew whether he was "safe". But she was honest about her result last night, when she could have easily lied and claimed she caught scum, leading us into a false lynch.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr she could just as easily be lying about quadz.

Cuz she's on your team amirite?

Quadz is now known town as he would only be scum if he was a vanilla. He wouldn't have risked lying when the very next person could have gone "Actually, I went for X, but am Vanilla".

I am a Vanilla Townie. I tried for Tracker (Prana you're a dick.)

Woops!

Buddies detected woopwoopwoop

We should be no lynching BUT

VOTE: PranaDevil

[Papa Zito]

UNVOTE: Prana
VOTE: No Lynch

Not saying anything else until tomorrow. (inb4 Prana: Of course I know I'll be here, you just all-inned for the bonus XP)

[Papa Zito]

What do you think about my giant paragraph outlining my reasoning for why no-lynch is more logical?

I don't know how you can't compare both of their actions today and notice that difference.

P.S. Please don't let this happen again [url=ttp://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p ... 0#p2022280]thanks[/url].

[Papa Zito]

Different choice, same end result.

The more this goes on, the more I'm convinced this is true. I'm betting yesterdays plan had me killing town no matter what.

That was Prana's plan in case you guys forgot.

[Papa Zito]

Where do I say SpyreX is town in that quote?

The only one posting huge walls of doom would be you Mr. Prana sir. The only one attempting to make this a "lynch me or lynch Zito" false dichotomy is you Mr. Prana sir. The only one forming plans and then attacking people for following them is you Mr. Prana sir.

There's no flailing on anyone's account except for yours. You're trying to push this lynch through FTW and getting more and more desperate as you see the town want to step back and evaluate mylo instead of just sheeping onto your magic tracker guilty.

Which you only revealed once you were sure Kise was out of shots, of course.

Not to mention

Zito is likely town

But you track me anyway and also

SSBF is most likely town as far as I'm concerned

But you lynch him anyway because starting a wagon is hard work or something

[Papa Zito]

I said I don't like to shoot my friends. I don't. I don't like lynching or NKing them either. That has nothing to do with alignment and entirely to do with playing with people I enjoy playing with.

So me following YOUR plan, aka

While you shot a fucking pro-town Spyrex.

is a sure sign of my scumminess, while also Kise following YOUR plan aka

"I targetted these 3"

is a sure sign of his.

How anyone can believe any of this just astounds me.

[Papa Zito]

Prana, if you truly believe Kise is scum then you shouldn't believe either his targets or the number of shots he took. You have no proof other than his word since you tracked me instead of him. But since you don't really believe this cuz you're scum yourself you're somehow missing this illogical leap.

Fact is you told him to target three vanillas to make sure your kill went through. You made damn sure he wouldn't block me so I'd kill another townie, who cares which amirite? Then you killed Slaxx and made sure Kise blew all three shots before posting your "track" so that nothing interferes with your win after pushing a PZ mislynch. And it's all falling into place:

VOTE: Papa Zito

I still love you, though.

</3

Of course you're his buddy so it's ok.

[Papa Zito]

BTW:

2. PranaDevil ( 3 , 1 )
4. quadz08 ( 8 , 13 )
5. Hoopla ( 9 , 1 )

This is why the numbers thing was nonsense. We kept getting steered towards "clearing the 1s" or "clearing the 6s" when there was 0 scum in either group. That was totally a false trail.

[Papa Zito]

TWO*

footnotes:
*THREE

I'm not opposed to a Prana lynch ofc but I think a no lynch here is better overall.

[Papa Zito]

Flaw with your plan.

lol

If DDD is town, then losing Spyrex last night would mean that tonight RegFan would have been taking out the "confirmed scum" in the 1s (Quotation marks because I'm using your theory on what I'd be trying to do, as opposed to the truth). So, why would I kill the vig that was going to help solidify our win today if both were town? Hmmm? Make some sense boy.

The plan was obv to push FTW in mylo. You took out all the variables that would keep that from happening.

This is pure noise.

Yeah, imagine that, that scummy Spyrex was pushing that We had to clear the 1s and 6s and... 'ang on, Spy was town wasn't he? Well fuck me sideways.

Hoopla's iso begs to differ.
e.g.

Initial thoughts:
1.Kise blows all his shots tonight within a pool.
2.)PZ shoots one of (Faraday / SSBF)
2a.)The other gets lynched.
3.)Tracker tracks someone NOT being shot and NOT being blocked (this, at this point, is a pretty narrow pool).
4.)Hoopla checks quadz.

1) Stupid. How big is this pool? Having a locked pool means if one scum is out of it, they know their kill will succeed, and even have the option of no-killing for the wifoms.
2)

Stupid, as I said in my last post. You're conveniently ignoring numbers, despite being a vocal advocate of them once upon a time.

2a) Stupid, as this doesn't account for what the lynchee flips.
3) Fair enough, if we were to go down to path of crafting actions exactly.
4) I should check a VT obviously, but quadz should be one of the deaths.

SpyreX was willing to think outside the numbers. No, you two stuck to your guns cuz you knew it was all moonbeams.

[Papa Zito]

Zito, you just posted a big pile of bollocks.

Your argument is concrete and I can see no holes. I am undone.

I voted you in a knee-jerk to your fake track. No lynch is the correct play tho so I've since switched to that. Easy.

All hail Mutombo.

[Papa Zito]

Cheerleading is all you have left.

[Papa Zito]

There's VCA all up in here.

My view of the world:

Amrun

( 4 )

Lady LambdaDelta

,

Faraday

,

PranaDevil

,

GreyICE

, (L - 3 )

GreyICE

( 4 )

Papa Zito

,

Hoopla

,

SpyreX

,

Slaxx

, (L - 3 )

Lady LambdaDelta

( 3 )

quadz08

,

Super Smash Bros. Fan

,

Amrun

, (L - 4 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Faraday

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Hoopla

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Kise

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Papa Zito

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

PranaDevil

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

quadz08

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Slaxx

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

SpyreX

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Super Smash Bros. Fan

( 0 ) (L - 7 )
No Lynch ( 0 ) (L - 7 )
Not Voting ( 2 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

,

Kise

,

This is the first votecount where competing wagons start to crystallize.

Look at that spread. I can't believe it's not butter.

***

Amrun

( 6 ) ***

Lady LambdaDelta

,

Faraday

,

Kise

,

PranaDevil

,

GreyICE

,

Debonair Danny DiPietro

, (L - 1 )

GreyICE

( 3 )

Hoopla

,

SpyreX

,

Slaxx

, (L - 4 )

Lady LambdaDelta

( 2 )

quadz08

,

Super Smash Bros. Fan

, (L - 5 )

PranaDevil

( 1 )

Papa Zito

, (L - 6 )

Super Smash Bros. Fan

( 1 )

Amrun

, (L - 6 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Faraday

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Hoopla

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Kise

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Papa Zito

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

quadz08

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Slaxx

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

SpyreX

( 0 ) (L - 7 )
No Lynch ( 0 ) (L - 7 )
Not Voting ( 0 )

Kise

,

Amrun gets to L-1. With her claim her wagon quickly falls apart. No movement from the scumz as they're getting what they want without having to push themelves.

Amrun

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Faraday

( 1 )

GreyICE

, (L - 6 )
***

GreyICE

( 7 ) ***

Hoopla

,

SpyreX

,

Amrun

,

Faraday

,

Lady LambdaDelta

,

Papa Zito

,

Debonair Danny DiPietro

, (L - 1 )

Hoopla

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Kise

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Lady LambdaDelta

( 2 )

quadz08

,

Super Smash Bros. Fan

, (L - 5 )

Papa Zito

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

PranaDevil

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

quadz08

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Slaxx

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

SpyreX

( 0 ) (L - 7 )

Super Smash Bros. Fan

( 2 )

Kise

,

Slaxx

, (L - 5 )
No Lynch ( 0 ) (L - 7 )
Not Voting ( 1 )

PranaDevil

,

GreyICE lynch. Again the scum are nicely spread, with Prana staying off any wagon altogether. Well done.

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Faraday

( 1 )

SpyreX

, (L - 5 )

Hoopla

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Kise

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Lady LambdaDelta

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Papa Zito

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

PranaDevil

( 2 )

Papa Zito

,

Lady LambdaDelta

, (L - 4 )

quadz08

( 2 )

Hoopla

,

PranaDevil

, (L - 4 )

Slaxx

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

SpyreX

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Super Smash Bros. Fan

( 3 )

Faraday

,

Slaxx

,

Kise

, (L - 3 )
No Lynch ( 0 ) (L - 6 )
Not Voting ( 3 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

,

quadz08

,

Super Smash Bros. Fan

,

Dat bus.

I include this because we were frozen here for several beats while debating claims etc. Keep an eye on Prana.

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Faraday

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Hoopla

( 3 )

Lady LambdaDelta

,

SpyreX

,

Kise

, (L - 3 )

Kise

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Lady LambdaDelta

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Papa Zito

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

PranaDevil

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

quadz08

( 1 )

PranaDevil

, (L - 5 )

RegFan

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

SpyreX

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Super Smash Bros. Fan

( 4 )

Faraday

,

quadz08

,

Hoopla

,

Papa Zito

, (L - 2 )
No Lynch ( 0 ) (L - 6 )
Not Voting ( 3 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

,

Super Smash Bros. Fan

,

RegFan

,

A Hoopla wagon materializes from nowhere, and look who's driving it. Town town townies. quadz and Hoops counter with SSBF.

You're still watching Prana right?

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Faraday

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Hoopla

( 2 )

Lady LambdaDelta

,

SpyreX

, (L - 4 )

Kise

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Lady LambdaDelta

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

Papa Zito

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

PranaDevil

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

quadz08

( 1 )

PranaDevil

, (L - 5 )

RegFan

( 0 ) (L - 6 )

SpyreX

( 0 ) (L - 6 )
***

animorpherv1

( 6 ) ***

Faraday

,

quadz08

,

Hoopla

,

Papa Zito

,

Debonair Danny DiPietro

,

Kise

, (L - 0 )
No Lynch ( 0 ) (L - 6 )
Not Voting ( 2 )

animorpherv1

,

RegFan

,

SSBF lynch. Why yes, Prana is STILL parked on quadz, why do you ask?

Prana's plan is put in place here. Kise roleblocks 3 VTs, freeing up Madam Hoops or Prana for the kill. I'm set to kill one of two townies. Prana "tracks" me after the setup. Oh, and guess who Hoopla happens to check?

[Papa Zito]

Faraday, I'm not ignoring the 50/50.

My team is simply more that 50% certain you are scum.

^-^

They should be 100% that one of PZ/Prana is.

Regardless we should no lynch today. Then you can see if Faraday lives or not. According to some people he won't.

[Papa Zito]

dat vc analysis. so you go into it with your scumteam coloured and look for reasons to call them a scum-team, oh, okay.

Main

point is Prana's voting pattern. Prana's votes are paragon of townieness y/n?

Re: Hoops/quadz, this is again my view of the game, and how I see the interactions play out. So you can:

1. Refute what's posted with evidence from the thread;
2. Post your own competing version;
3. Make stupid snarky comments.

Congrats on choosing #3, you're a star.

[Papa Zito]

My view on VCA is about on par of your view with meta I think, so yeah.

Fair enough.

You subscribe to Prana's scumteam list then?

@Quadz:

I don't think your quickhammer's gonna happen, come on out plz.

[Papa Zito]

***

animorpherv1

( 6 ) *** Faraday, quadz08, Hoopla,

Papa Zito, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Kise

, (L - 0 )

Having all the scum, on the same wagon, one right after another, would be incredibly stupid. I think you just proved your team theory wrong congrats.

Oh, and Zito, you do remember I was on the SSBF lynch come the end of the day right? Because it was that or risk losing even more pro-town Hoopla. So your claim at the very end about me being on Quadz is stupid.

Oh that's right. So you sat on Quadz all day long and then hammered your town read since wagoning someone else is too hard. My bad.

[Papa Zito]

Make a commitment on the 50/50.

ITT: Hoopla and Prana bully people in their own special ways.

[Papa Zito]

Zito, are you suggesting I'm town then? And we're in a town Vs town argument?

Not at all. This is an Open game; there are no bus drivers or other shenanigans that could reconcile your "result" and a town alignment.

Because if that's not the case, and you know I'm scum, then you also would know the a no-lynch, when you know someone else is scum, 100%, is a stupid way of doing things don't you.

Yes, I know you're scum. And you know you're scum.

Your post actually illuminates your perspective here. Since you're scum trying to end the game now, you're not thinking ahead to later days. But I am. Once you're flipped, we still have your buddies to find, and reducing the pool only helps with that effort.

[Papa Zito]

lol.

In short "I know I've found scum, but I don't want to lynch him yet".

Nice twist. If people want a Prana lynch today then I'd be all for it, but I understand the conundrum you've thrown the town in.

You cannot let the lynch go through today because it confirms that everything I've said is true come tomorrow, meaning your scum team lose.

No. I cannot let

my

lynch go through today because that means the town loses. You've conveniently eliminated any possibility of town power providing a mylo safety net through your plan, otherwise I'd be happy to take the 1:1 trade.

Of course, you wouldn't be playing this game if that were the case either.

[Papa Zito]

...

Prana, I just said you eliminated any town power (ie roleblocks and vigs) that could defend a mylo mislynch.

lrn2read plz

[Papa Zito]

I don't recall saying Faraday is your buddy.

Of course, his just sitting there waiting for this to happen makes it a possibility.

So Prana if I voted DDD or Kise what would you do?

[Papa Zito]

And I'd laugh at the bussing. Bit like how I laughed at Kise pushing you earlier. Even more so when he was backed into a corner, and decided the best course of action was to pretend he didn't say what he said.

So you wouldn't vote either of them with me?

[Papa Zito]

I'm still wondering why we are wasting time here, and more to the point, where the smeg did Quadz sod off to? We need you to remove your vote pal, you're risking scum hammering that no-lynch and making the game much more easy for themselves.

If the scum wanted a no-lynch they'd have hammered it already.

But we already know your position on the issue so that's just yet more confirmation.

We've got extra time banked, no reason to rush this. I have to admit I'm really curious about what LLD Inc is up to since their previous results were bizarre.