1119: The Might of Mordor: Game Over

[gandalf5166]

/confirm

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EVERYBODY IMBUE EDGE

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VOTE: Edge
Imbue: Edge

The thing that makes this different from SSBB is that the person who gets the superpower isn't held accountable.

Flavorwise, it's probable that scum do not have superpowers. Just sayin.

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Meh, actually I <3 quadz.

imbue: quadz

He wouldn't vote for himself unless he was confident that what he had would be more beneficial to town in the more immediate than long run.

No, he's just following the bitchy little trend of "the only person you can trust is yourself" bullshit. Here's a hint: IF YOU DONT TRUST ANYBODY THEN DONT VOTE

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..............

Imbue: SpySpy

Plum, I don't think that Imbue wagons can be "hammered". Pretty sure that it goes to the plurality at the time of lynch.

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VOTE: Edge
Imbue: Edge

Flavorwise, it's probable that scum do not have superpowers. Just sayin.

This is implying that Edge effectively claimed scum by this:

errr I left out of that post the part where it should say I don't have any super powers to gain access too***

So...I'ma say no on that one...

While I can't think of why town wouldn't be able to use the ring(I only just bought the Silmarillion, and haven't gotten around to reading it yet, so I don't even know who the hell MY character is), scum are the good guys. In the books, good guys don't use the ring. Thus, scum don't use the ring. Comprende?

Spy, you're stupid. That is all. Scum can't use the ring, thus I would rather give it to someone who I trust to use it properly IF they are town than no-one.

Also, I think you're forgetting that ITS THE RVS. I PURPOSELY VOTED AND IMBUED. GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

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Okay, so if you allow that, then maybe giving the ring to scum would lead to them being action-immune. But they never actually USED the ring. You know what I mean. And yeah, some characters used A ring, but not THE ring, because they were afraid of corruption. I realize that giving the ring to scum would obviously not be good for the town. That's not the point. The point is that 3/4 odds of it going to town are really just fine by me, so why not give it to a competent null-read.

On that note: Since it is likely that scum recieving the ring might become action-immune, I wouldn't recomend anybody but the doc targeting the ring-bearer as it's possible that your action would be useless.

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I'm just thinking about the flavor and making fairly obvious assumptions. If I was scum, remind me why I would supply the town with this "insider info"?

Do you have anyone as a STRONG town read at this point? I don't. The closest to that that I have is a leaning-town on esurio. But my point is that WE WANT GOOD PLAYERS TO HAVE THE RING. NOT STUPID TOWN. And I don't know anything about esurio, so I don't trust him to use it well if he is town. Thus, I vote for SptySpy because I DO think that if he is town, he'll know how to use it.

And to be honest, I don't trust anyone who claims that they have a strong superpower. Why would town claim that? It's basically telling the scum "O HAI GUIZ I HAVE REALLY AWESOME ROLE NK ME PLOX?"

I do like the AGM wagon. He seems like he's pretending to be stupid, probably because I'm right, as opposed to Edge who I'm pretty sure actually is being stupid.

VOTE: AGM

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I didn't think that Plum had been lying earlier, but her last post is undeniable.

VOTE: Plum

AGM can die tomorrow. After we're done dancing through fields of grass and flowers(or rather barren rock and dust) in celebration of cleansing our homeland of one scum.

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1. Lol. No, seriously. If I AM scum, I'm feeding you misinformation. There's no reason for me to tell you what I know. Occam's Razor > WIFOM
2. I notice that you don't bother refuting my logic because you can't.
3. I don't remember. But Edge told them to(another reason why I think Edge is genuinely being stupid), so I don't blame them. Plenty of people mindlessly do whatever Fate tells them. Hell, I do it sometimes.
4. Now YOU'RE pretending to be stupid.
5. Lol. Once again, you don't refute my logic, because you can't.

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Occam's Razor > WIFOM

Occam's Razor has no place in mafia. That holds no water at all.

Why not? I've seen it used in many occasions, and it's won the game. See Cross Edge Bastard Mod.

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Hell, it's on the mafiawiki.

I know for a fact that I have never made a kill or done anything like what SS is suggesting as scum, simply because most people on this site ignore things like that and say WIFOM just like SS did, so why not just do what is best for your team? If you can kill the person who suspects you most, and then the next day, everyone will assume that it's WIFOM, why not just do it?

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I agree that bringing up what you brought up isn't scummy. I was just tossing in what is essentially a theory-based belief of mine; I don't think that Occam's Razor really ever comes into play.

So you think that things are never simple in mafia?

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1. Nice. Just go with a defense that's obviously bullshit. At least then you can back out of this with at least ONE person who agrees with you.
2. You're saying that if I became confirmed town, you would rather give me the ring(I'm assuming you think I'm stupid, but maybe that's just an air you're putting on so you don't have to make sense when you argue with me) then give it to Edge(if he had a power) who is PROBABLY town.
3. How did I deflect to Edge? I just think that he didn't really think before announcing his MASTER PLAN. I've never even implied that Edge was scum. Not to mention, this wasn't even a point against me, so I don't see how I can "deflect" it to Edge.
4. I never called you names. In fact, I'm complimenting you by assuming that you're NOT stupid, based on what else I've seen of your play.
5. This is proof for my #2 point, BTW. But really. If my logic is retarded, why can't you refute it? Do you think AGM really is stupid? Do you think that he's not been acting stupid? If so, point out why you think his side of the argument makes sense.

I'm glad we managed to catch the whole scumteam this early.

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So you seriously think that scum will do something that hurts their team(giving town info about the ring) hoping that everyone will assume that they're town, when they know that some douchefag will come along and yell WIFOM?

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I'm glad we managed to catch the whole scumteam this early.

Who is the whole scumteam?

You, Plum, and SS, of course.

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Uh........

When did I say quadz was scum? Congrats on confirming you're scum.

Note that she's literally not reading at all, just assuming that she knows what I'm going to say(more evidence that she thinks I'm stupid, as well as being scummy in and of itself).

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But she obviously blatantly lied in #73.

SS: That's the biggest pile of hit I've ever heard.

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YES

EDGE AGREES WITH ME ON SS-SCUM

THAT MEANS I DONT HAVE TO ARGUE WITH HER ANYMORE

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You naive, naive little man. Either you're doing exactly what Edge is accusing Plum of and you're scum buddying him like crazy to get him to like you. Or you're town who's effectively given up on scum-hunting to blindly follow someone who is FAR from anything "confirmed."

Fyi, neither is good.

No. It's just that if I can get him to agree with me, he'll fight the inane fight for me. It's what Fate does best. Meanwhile I can concentrate on more worthy pursuits.

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gandalf is SO bad I don't know if it even qualifies as VI anymore. It's like obvscum-VI. If that exists.

Haha. Nice. You can't respond to the case against you, so you just ad hom. You don't even ad hom the person who is actually driving the case(because there's no ad homming that can be done there without you getting destroyed), you just ad hom the supporters.

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Are you allowed to just do that? Don't you have to tell the mod? >.>

PEDIT: Edge, why are there 5 scum in that QT?

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Esu is town, simply by PoE. We can replace the ??? with Plum.

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Oh, that is actually pretty incriminating. We can drop AGM then, maybe he's just an ass when he's being stupid.

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He's probably been in over 75% of the games I've ever played. Which is a lot of games. I've read him incorrectly only once, and that's because he was pissing me the fuck off.

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GOD DONT BRING UP ALPHABET MAFIA OR ILL HAVE TO FUCKING KILL YOU

AND GANDALFSCUM IS STRATEGICALLY ANNOYING

YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN GANDALF BEING ANNOYING FOR THE GIGGLES AND GANDALF BEING ANNOYING ON PURPOSE

GANDALFTOWN ALSO HAS MOMENTS OF CLARITY WHERE HE REALIZES IMPORTANT SHIT AND THE CAPS GO AWAY

GANDALFSCUM CAN HAVE THESE TOO, BUT ONLY IN MULTI SCUMTEAM GAMES

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I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT IN PYP4 I GOT CAUGHT LYING AND ALMOST WORMED MY WAY OUT OF IT WITH "WHY WOULD SCUM".

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There's no reason for it to happen, period. It was a stupid-tell, not a scumtell.

Interestingly enough, that's exactly what I said. But I can tell you, if I had been town, I wouldn't have been lying.

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LOOSE CANNON IS HOW I CATCH SCUM

IM LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF FATE

INSTEAD OF RANDOMLY DECIDING PEOPLE ARE SCUM AND CRAZY-TUNNELING THEM UNTIL I GET REAL READS, I MAKE HALF THE GAME THINK IM SCUM AND LOOK AT EVERYONE'S REASONS FOR THINKING IM SCUM/NOT SCUM

Speaking of which: I NOTICE YOU DONT BOTHER EXPLAINING YOURS, YOU JUST RANDOMLY THROW IN NOT ONLY THAT YOU THINK IM TOWN, BUT THAT I AM "CLEAR"

And yet, by your logic, if I really was clear, I should get the ring, no matter how stupidly you think I'll use it. So which one do you want to backpedal from, huh?

SCUM CAUGHT

QUIT BITCHING ABOUT "WHY WOULD SCUM" AND JUST LOOK AT ALL THE BULLSHIT IN THAT LAST POST

@quadz: My point is, town isn't in a state of mind where they lie. Scum are. So when you catch someone lying....... It becomes far more likely that they're scum, regardless of the subject of the lie.

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See, the problem with that is simple: PLUM DID NOT LIE.

YES SHE DID

14% of the game that Plum modded with Edge was Edge posting, and she had to warn him SEVERAL times about posting out of hydra. There is NO WAY that she forgot that Edge was a Fate hydra.

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FUCKING SPYSPY

Apparently I need to explain my fucking RVS method. First. I look down the playerlist to see who is in the game. I see that Edge is in the game. I decide I'll RV him unless something comes up in the thread that merits a RV. Then I see the imbue thing. I think for a half-second who I would most likely imbue and then the obvious answer comes to mind: Edge. Now, I considered changing my random vote. But then I decided that random votes don't matter, so why not vote and imbue the same person? Because I didn't see any idiots on the playerlist, so I assumed that nobody would give a shit. BECAUSE ITS THE GODDAMNED FUCKING RVS.

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WELL I DONT WANT TO GET VIGGED TONIGHT

I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT THIS GAME AND I DONT WANT IT TO BE SPOILED BY A MISVIG CAUSE I WAS BEING RANDOM WITH MY VOTING IN THE RANDOM VOTING STAGE

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Please quit with the caps. You're not going to get vigged because of an RVS vote, but you will get vigged if you keep going the way you're going.

JUST FOR THAT, FUCK NO

NO WAY

ILL EVEN PUT MY CLEAR MOMENTS IN CAPS

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PYP4

EVERY TIME ONE OF YOU SAYS THERES NO SCUM MOTIVATION FOR PLUM TO LIE, IM JUST GONNA SAY THAT, IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEBODY WILL STOP BEING LAZY AND SKIM IT AT LEAST

AND EDGE, GIVING ME THE SUPERPOWER WOULD BE A BAD IDEA EARLY GAME SIMPLY BY THE NATURE OF MY POWER

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THERES NO SERIAL KILLER IN THIS GAME

HOW THE FUCK WOULD THAT MAKE FUCKING SENSE FLAVORWISE? GOLLUMS THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD WANT THE RING FOR HIMSELF AND HE'S DEAD AS OF PREGAME FLAVOR

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SHUT THE FUCK UP OBVSK.

I DIDNT KNOW THE FLAVOR LAST GAME AND I SURE AS HELL DONT KNOW IT THIS GAME.

BY THE WAY ANDY SAYS THAT THE NAME OF MY ROLE WAS MADE UP

IM ONE OF THE NAZGUL

THUS, THERE ARE NINE TOWN BECAUSE THERE ARE NINE NAZGUL

SO UNLESS YOU THINK THAT THERES A TWOMAN SCUMTEAM THERES NO SK

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So you're saying that every townie is a different Nazgul?

WRONG

YOU SURE?

CAUSE I DIDNT RECOGNIZE THE NAME AT FIRST EITHER

MAYBE YOU'RE THE EXCEPTION, AND THE WITCHKING IS CONSIDERED DEAD

THAT EXPLAINS WHY YOU DONT HAVE A SUPERPOWER

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FFS, gandalf. Why the hell are you claiming already?? You were bad the last game, but not

this

bad.

PROBABLY EVERY MEMBER OF THE TOWN EXCEPT FOR EDGE IS A NAZGUL

I GAVE SCUM SHIT ALL INFO

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IF YOURE WONDERING WHY IM ASSUMING THAT EVERYONES A NAZGUL, THIS POST IMPLIES AS SUCH:http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p2726855

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IF YOURE WONDERING WHY IM ASSUMING THAT EVERYONES A NAZGUL, THIS POST IMPLIES AS SUCH: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p2726855

I FORGOT THE SPACE

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The only hitch with that idea is that you just force everyone to claim and bam! game over. I don't see that happening.

THATS THE THING

HE MADE UP THE NAMES

THE NAZGUL ARENT NAMED ANYWHERE IN THE BOOKS

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There are names in the Nazgul Wiki.

Wow. That's stupid. Some strategy game made up names and that's what Andy is using?

Whatevs. There could potentially be an SK, but there's still not a role that makes sense for it. And the fact that I'm a Nazgul still doesn't tell scum much, seeing as we're in a no-vanilla setup anyways.

And whatever, Spy. Unless you're the vig, it doesn't matter anyways.

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HEY

I TAKE OFFENSE AT PEOPLE SAYING IM JUST SHEEPING EDGE

I SAID SS WAS SCUM BEFORE HE DID

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Wow, the only justification Plum can think of for saying I'm town is that I speculate? Hint: I don't think I've ever been in a game where I was vaguely familiar with the flavor that I didn't start with half a ton of speculation.

Eh. I do listen to Fate. But I do actually make my own checks behind his logic usually(speaking generally), as he is fallible. Especially when Fate loses track of his target, I've found he ends up switching to a town lynch. I only recently came to that last realization though.

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WHY IS EVERYBODY IMBUING QUADZ? IS THAT SERIOUSLY EVERYBODYS STRONGEST TOWNREAD?

Also, I'm not quite sure why everybody says that caps make posts harder to read. I've actually found that they make it easier for me to read walls. There's more space in between the letters.

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Especially when Fate loses track of his target, I've found he ends up switching to a town lynch.

Can you explain that?

His first target D1 is usually scum. However, the person he lynches D1 is usually town, because he loses track of his original target because he sees something in someone else, and forgets that he only gets one lynch per day. Perfect example: Magician's Mafia, he was latched onto Razgriz-scum, and all of a sudden he switched to me cause of something little(I don't remember what it was). Incidentally, that's also the only time I've misread Fate.

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WHY THE FUCK ARE WE IMBUING QUADZ

We have enough support to lynch Plum. The rest of this day needs to be about who we're imbuing. IMO, it should be either SpyreX or Sevei. Preferably SpyreX, as Sevei is making me paranoid that she just came in and realized her partner was doomed, so she started bussing.

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Sounds good. But we all know the real reason that Mina's doing most of the posting.

It's cause I have experience with Magna-scum.

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Spy, I don't see how that means I must be scum. It just means I was wrong, and realized I was wrong when Mari showed me that the Nazgul actually were named.

Oh, and Mari, that was the random target he latched onto. There's a difference between Edge's first vote and his first TARGET.

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1. Because he is a null. He is like butter. He's not good until you combine him with someone else. Those kinds of townreads never work.
2. SHE LIED. TOWN DOESNT LIE. NO MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID.

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Quadz is just not good at the game, not scum.

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I like quadz's point where I'm town. Not just because it has me as town. But presumably, scum would have one or two non-Nazgul fakeclaims. So I would know that there was non-Nazgul.

@AGM: I REALIZE WHY YOU ASKED ME THIS

MY MIND HAS BEEN IN A BIT OF TURMOIL ON SCUM LATELY

ESPECIALLY AFTER EDGE SAYS PLUM IS TOWN

EDGE: IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS SECRET TOWNTELL COULD BE DROPPED BY PLUMSCUM? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PLUM HAS FIGURED OUT WHAT IT IS?

EDGE IS DEFINITELY THE TOWN ONE

THE SCUM ARE PROBABLY AGM, MASTERSPY AND SS

IF PLUM COULD STILL BE SCUM, ID PUT PLUM ON INSTEAD OF YOU

UNVOTE
VOTE: AGM

EDGE: MY MEMORY WAS OFF, I SEE

AND LOL AT MY CLAIM IN THAT GAME

WEIRD FUCKING COINCIDENCE THAT BASICALLY MADE IT LOOK LIKE I HAD MADE THE WORST FAKECLAIM IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD

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WAIT I JUST PUT AGM AT L1?

NORMALLY I WOULDNT CARE BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE THE RING TO SOMEONE AND THE IRONY KILLS ME

SO

UNVOTE

Just until we establish that quadz isn't getting the goddamn ring.


PEDIT: HOLY SHIT VV JUST HAMMERED? WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT

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I missed the whole last page, that's why I'm confused.

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Imbue: AGM

At least we don't have to decide who to imbue. Apparently Edge isn't actually THAT confident in Plum's townieness.

YOU MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS SOME KINDA CONFIRMAGE MAN

Unvote
VOTE: Plum

VV STOP SMOKING SO MUCH IDIOT

HINT: WHEN YOUR ARMS START FEELING LIKE THEYRE HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER, YOU PASS THE PIPE WHEN IT COMES AROUND TO YOU

SPYSPY

FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR=/=NEIGHBORIZER

WIKI IT IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND

SS THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED

YES AN IMBUE WAGON CAN BE HAMMERED

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WOAH

NOW IM PSYCHIC

I RESPONDED TO SS'S POST BEFORE SHE MADE IT

I DONT EVEN NEED WEED

Its been happening increasingly often across the board. Mafiascum is smoking pot, it seems. -Andy

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I need to try playing mafia high sometime.

VV looks like he's having fun if nothing else.

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Its been happening increasingly often across the board. Mafiascum is smoking pot, it seems. -Andy

NO

MAFIASCUM JUST STARTED IMPARTING PSYCHIC ABILITIES TO ITS USERS

HOW WILL THE GAME ADAPT?

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BUT WHO IS HE GOING TO TARGET? I KINDA WANT TO GET ONE. BUT FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT, FATE AND SEVEI SHOULD BE IT

YOU COULD SUBSTITUTE ME FOR SEVEI THOUGH, AND I WOULD FEEL SPECIAL

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BTW if you guys are curious, I googled Shadow Lord. He's just one of the Nazgul.

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Ooh, I like getting to lynch AGM again. It's entirely possible that AGM just wants to get off his superpower before we lynch him.

Unvote
Vote: AGM

WE STILL SHOULDNT BE GIVING THE RING TO QUADZ

Unimbue
Imbue SpyreX

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NO U

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No, seriously. If you were scum, and you were about to die, but your superpower was something super awesome like "Recruit another member at the cost of your own life"(just the first thing that pops to mind, I know it's a little much), then how would you make sure you lived and got to use it? Say that you could be confirmed, of course.

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I think that destroying the ring would cause all kinds of balance problems, but I agree with everything Vas just said.

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Great. SpySpy doesn't agree with us because he's looking at VV's posts to summarize. >.>

I do not accept VV's nomination of me to receive the ring(not that it would happen anyways).

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Okay, I was being too general. Town DO lie for gambits sometimes, but that kind of lying is planned with a goal in mind, not offhand.

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Katy, in Alphabet Mafia, one of my scumbuddies had the ability to send messages to other players, exactly like that. Only he could do it at any time.

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I'm not reading SS's post. HINT: YOU DONT HAVE TO COMMENT ON EVERY POST IN THE GAME, JUST THE ONES THAT MATTER

However, I did skim for the bits about me. SHE MENTIONS ME TWICE. AND REALLY ONLY ONCE SINCE THE TWO POSTS SHE COMMENTS ON ARE ABOUT THE SAME THING.

SHE THINKS MY THEORY ON AGM IS "REACHING". EXCUSE ME

WHATS WRONG WITH MY LOGIC THERE?

UNVOTE
VOTE PLUM

KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE

BUT ONLY IF WE GET TO LYNCH SS TOMORROW.

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You know what I think is funny? Literally all the people who think I'm scum have hardly ever played with me(SpyreX is the only one who has even played with me at all, IIRC). Somehow I doubt that that's a coincidence.

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MoI, you think I'm scum?

Hmmmm.

Must have missed that.

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MoI, I'm not going to lie, I skim your posts sometimes. I probably missed wherever you called me scum.

I don't see how I acted differently in LOTR though, other than that I was maybe a little more independent. There's a reason for that though. That game, I had to take it on myself to get the game out of RVS(nobody had any serious suspicions until I did my jokeclaim), so I had to form my own opinions because nobody else had any yet. This game, Edge did that. So I'm playing a different role, although I did take some independence in my argument with SS.

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You know what I think is funny? Literally all the people who think I'm scum have hardly ever played with me(SpyreX is the only one who has even played with me at all, IIRC). Somehow I doubt that that's a coincidence.

So what are you saying? That you are always act like a scummy moron and we should thus give you a free pass?

No, simply that anybody who has experience with town-me and scum-me knows that this isn't scum-me.

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Yes, RVS ended early, but I ended it, which put me at a different place in the game........ Whatever.

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It's MS.

Hohum's just an ass.

If it weren't for the fact that quadz is town by PoE, I would have serious words for you guys.

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Oh right, that makes sense. Everybody who's played with me thinks I'm town.... except for MS who is scum. Had forgotten.

Also, the Packers won really. They got cheated.

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I think it's worth noting that all three scum are on the imbue count for quadz.

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Exactly. No one has adequately explained why quadz is town by anything but PoE.

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MMMMMkkkkkk...........


HOHUM IS TEH LYNCHERZ?

And yeah Katy, SS is scum. Glad we didn't have to go through the whole "SHE CLAIMED. THERES NO WAY SHE COULD COME UP WITH A FAKECLAIM LIKE THAT EVEN THOUGH ITS EXACTLY WHAT SHE WOULD NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT. SHE MUST BE TOWN." thing again.

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Decapitated does not sound Heroes of Light-ish. hohum may be a douchebag, but I think he's Town.

On the contrary, it doesn't sound like a Nazgul kill at all. Nazgul STAB. Whereas Aragorn decapitates like twenty million orcs throughout the movies. And yes I realize that Aragorn can't be in the game.

Imbue: VV
Vote: hohum

And then we can lynch SS tomorrow <3

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Although the "slip" is weak. When I saw Plum flip, I thought she was town at first, so.

Speaking of which, PLUM FLIPPED SCUM WOOT

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BTW before people are like ZOMGZ HE DOESNT AGREE WITH THE CASE BUT STILL VOTED HIM OVER HIS SUSPECT FROM YESTERDAY:

He still claimed what's obviously a scum kill and fished for the doc in the same post.

And VV, you're still bulletproof. I know this for a fact, don't ask how until MC.

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What details?

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Bah, I suppose there's no harm in claiming anyway.

I'm a one-shot bulletproof Bodyguard. I protected Edge last night. I'm asking Andy if I lost my bulletproof because nothing in my role says anything about being warned about it. And since I'm bulletproof anyway, c'est la vie.

Decapitated does not sound Heroes of Light-ish. hohum may be a douchebag, but I think he's Town.

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Why is one-shot bulletproof confusing?

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Fate, why do you do this >.>

Pay no heed. We'll lynch him in LyLo if necessary.

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Damnit FATE WE TALKED ABOUT THE NKING YOUR PARTNERS FOR CRED GAMBIT

.....

Gandalf, is the 'him' Edge?

Yeah. I'm pretty sure he's town, but when he makes jokes like hat, he makes me REALLLLLLY paranoid.

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Oh shit, I don't know why I didn't mention this yesterday: I have near-confirmation in my role that scum have a roleblocker.

@MS: I have no reason to believe that there was another kill. I do KNOW that VV did not block any kills last night.

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If you have no reason to believe there was another kill last night, then...oh wait...that might be misconstrued as rolefishing instead of trying to piece the game together.

Right, because asking who the doc protected would totally be worth exposing the doc.

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SS, you do realize that superpowers are improved versions of normal powers, so to claim what quadz did last night would be basically claiming? And why do YOU need confirmation of what happened last night? You trusted quadz enough to give him superpowers. At that point, what he did with him should be irrelevant.

And I was being sarcastic, but I thought you were talking about hohum's rolefish.

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It seems I was unclear. There may or may not have been a kill on Edge. VV did not block it.

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Getting into any more detail than that would be as good as claiming. The only thing I am confirming is that VV did NOT lose his bulletproof last night. Whether there was a kill on Edge is unknown.

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No, I just think he's stupid scum.

[gandalf5166]

sorry but the mod won't be able to force replace me.

and..... how does that work in your feeble little mind?

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hohum is clearly trolling at this point.

I'm not trolling and you're an idiot. I mod games too and I happen to know that mods force replacing people who are lurking as a matter of strategy is a huge no-no.

You're not lurking. You're just purposely refusing to cooperate, which is contradictory to any wincon.

[gandalf5166]

Wow, you're really a bitch. What makes lurking strategically viable is that people DONT notice it.

[gandalf5166]

And you are lol.

[gandalf5166]

Lol.

The reason we're not listening to you is that you're REFUSING TO SAY ANYTHING.

[gandalf5166]

I know that his block did not block any kills. That is a fact. Whether or not somebody tried to kill Edge is unknown. That said, I don't get the point of differentiating between those two questions, Do you think I'm a redirector? Because I'm not.

[gandalf5166]

quadz, you saw something else last night too, right? Just tell me if you know what I'm talking about.

[gandalf5166]

Aight.

VOTE: VV

[gandalf5166]

EVEN IF VV HAD BEEN ROLEBLOCKED HE WOULD STILL BE TRACKED AS HAVING TARGETED EDGE

ALSO, QUADZ BE TELLIN THE TRUTHS

[gandalf5166]

I'm three pages behind right now, but people are bullshitting that I should claim. Now, I CAN claim, but MY claim does not prove anything, and you'll all rage like "WTF ZOMGZ GANDALF WTF WUZ U TINKIN CLAIMIN AN BULLSHIT"

[gandalf5166]

Okay, I'm back and I'll be reading those three pages. Oh, and

Unimbue VV

Forgot to do that earlier.

[gandalf5166]

Immediate responses:

Edge: Gandalf is not RB. I know this for a fact, also because of last night.
VV: Nobody roleblocked you, and if they did, they're dumb. Nobody thought you were obvtown, and you made no hint towards having a good role yesterday, so scum's not gonna block you. Town all thought you were a VI. The roleblocker would have to be pretty thick to pick you for a target.

P-Edit:
PART OF MY SUPERPOWER IS THAT I GET TO CHOOSE ONE PLAYER TO WATCH. I CHOSE EDGE. I SAW [REDACTED NUMBER] PLAYERS VISIT EDGE. 1 OF THEM WAS GANDALF. 0 OF THEM WAS VV.

Happy now?

As to imbuing,

imbue: AGM

Same reasons as yesterday.

This post is 200% awesome and anyone still imbuing VV is mentally handicapped.

If Gandalf is a fucking protective role like he fucking softclaimed, then why THE FUCK aren't we lynching whoever else visited Edge.

There's a reason I SOFTclaimed it >.> But anyways, I know that VV can't have lost his bulletproof because if Edge had been killed, I would have stopped it, not VV. What I was going to bring up if I was ever asked to claim is that VV'S CLAIM IS OBVIOUS "OH I CANT JUST CLAIM DOC BECAUSE THERES PROBABLY A REAL DOC, BUT I CAN CLAIM THIS AND IF ANYONES LIKE 'OH THATS TWO PROTECTIVE ROLES, I CALL BS', I CAN SPOUT SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT SETUP SPECULATION"

HERE IS MY DEAL

IF WE DONT IMBUE VV, ILL VOTE FOR HOHUM AGAIN

*goes to ISO Spyrex-

You know what? NO.

DID I OR DID I NOT SINGLE-HANDEDLY FUCKING CATCH PLUM SCUM YESTERDAY?

NOW YOU FUCKING CLOWNS VOTE HOHUM, AND IMBUE VV, AND HIGH FIVES.

ALL.

THE.

FUCK.

AROUND.

Yeah, and like I said before, I still think the case on Plum was mostly shit. You really believe that scum roleblocked VV? Really?

However, I am totally down to lynch hohum. No fucking way we're imbuing VV, though. No fucking way.

MORE HIGHFIVES TO THE QUADZMAN

DAMN GOOD THING I DIDNT CONVINCE YOU GUYS NOT TO IMBUE HIM

OH HEY IW AS TALKING ABOUT WHETHER HE COULD BE ROLEBLOCKED TONIGHT AND I SAID THAT HE NEEDED THE RING SO

I, ME, MYSELF

CAN'T DIE AND HAVE VV SAY "WHOOPS RB'D AGAIN"

EDGE

HERES THE DEAL

IM ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING IMPORTANT

IF YOU IMBUE ME, YOU WILL NOT ONLY NOT DIE TONIGHT, BUT YOUR ACTION IS GAURANFUCKINGTEED TO WORK

I AM FINE WITH LETTING VV LIVE UNTIL TOMORROW

BUT BY GOD, IF WE IMBUE HIM I WILL PUNCH A GODDAMN FUCKING WALL

Imbue Gandalf

[gandalf5166]

Every time Mina posts I think that MasterSpy is town.
Every time Magna posts, I think/know they're scum.

BULLSHIT

COMMENT ON MY LAST POST GODDAMMIT

AT LEAST UNIMBUE FUCKING VV

[gandalf5166]

OH MY SHIT

EDGE, I MUST PRAISE YOUR MASTER PLAN

Unimbue
Imbue VV
Unvote
VOTE: HOHUM

[gandalf5166]

Why am I a rolecop? Will read your post in more detail in just a sec.

[gandalf5166]

I don't see why 2 is really a problem in context, but 1 is plenty good enough reason in and of itself. It really was getting ridiculous. I'll miss Edge though

Dekes, I'll be expecting a full re-read and hopefully a little more sanity on the matter of VV from you(I still like Edge's plan, but it was ridiculous that he was still insisting VV was town with all the evidence to the contrary).

[gandalf5166]

PMs are cool, but I want to find out HERE who complained about Edge. Scum have an incentive to get Edge kicked out of the game.

Certainly wasn't me. I didn't mind that much, as I see no reason to ISO someone who I knew was town, but I can see why it would be irritating to some.

[gandalf5166]

MS, did you actually read Edge's plan? It basically guaranteed that me, him, and quadz would live NO MATTER WHAT.

I had a dream last night where I vigged Dekes in this game for some weird reason.

[gandalf5166]

This game really confuses me. We have two near-confirmed scum, and yet there are all these scummy-ass motherfuckers runnin' around. Makes me feel like I'm missin' somethin'.

[gandalf5166]

hohum (5): AlmasterGM, SpyreX, MasterSpy, gandalf5166

lolcounting

PEDIT: And now I feel like a douchebag pointing this out. It's okay though. I can probably get DMSIS to replace in.

[gandalf5166]

lolimadeajoke

U so funneh gandalf - Andy

[gandalf5166]

Oh, and Andy, we only mostly hate your guts like Inigo Montoya hated the man who killed his father.

Wait, I'm supposed to feel BETTER after that? -Andy

It's cool, man. Everyone makes mistakes.

[gandalf5166]

When we nominate this game for every scummy in the book, we'll just have to leave out Smooth Operator. It's cool.

Goddammit that's the one I wanted most. T_T
...
...

-Andy

[gandalf5166]

Sorry if I'm being a bit of a douche. My older brother Albert is in town, so my sense of humor basically consists of calling everybody a fuckup.

I got called f***tard the other day. Never heard that one before. -Andy

[gandalf5166]

Well, I can see that Sauron loves me. Wait no, it says angry for whatever reason. Now I'm even MORE sure VV is scum. He probably has some kind of superpower that gets the Eye angry at someone. In fact, I predict that I will die at some point during this day.

VOTE: VV

While it is possible that VV was roleblocked by scum, it is incredibly unlikely. Not sure who we should imbue though.

[gandalf5166]

SS is scum. What else is new.

[gandalf5166]

That's not a daykill. We are Mordor you twerps. The eye is aligned with us.
If the mod scene was like 'Gandalf the White and a giant fucking eagle appears!' then I'll think dayvig. (Plus a dayvig+vig in a game is bad.)

Why are there no SpyreX votes yet? Do I really have to dig up the scummy things Spy was doing during Plumgate + Vasgate?

It's using the RING. The ring harnesses the power of SAURON, no matter who uses it. IF scum have superpowers, I think it's self-evident that they would involve tricking Sauron into working against his own forces. Also, the eye was ANGRY. At first I thought it was something good too.

@Fate: The good plan would be for tonight for me and VV to both protect you while we imbue SpySpy and he enables me. Then we imbue me and I can do AWESOME STUFFS. I can make two people GUARANTEED to succeed at their actions and survive the night.

Oh wait. Failclaim by SpySpy. I get the temptation to make a claim like "LOOK AT ME, I GOT A JOKE ROLE. I WOULD NEVER BE STUPID ENOUGH TO CLAIM THIS AS SCUM". But Andy's not stupid, he wouldn't put in a role that did nothing. And your superpower makes zero flavor-sense. Also, you claimed The Balrog. Now, I'm going to assume by the fact that you capitalized The that you didn't put it there by accident. THERE ARE MULTIPLE BALROGS. AND GUESS WHAT. ONLY ONE OF THEM GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT GANDALF. AND HES FUCKING DEAD. CAUSE GANDALF PWNED HIS ASS.

Unvote
VOTE: SpyreX

FOR SERIOUS

FATE

CAN YOU SHEEP ME FOR ONCE?

ILL HEART YOU FOREVER

PEDIT: DAMMIT FATE

YOU NINJAD ME

[gandalf5166]

BY THE WAY

I SUCK AT LOGIC, AS I HAD IT ESSENTIALLY PROVEN THAT QUADZ WAS SCUM

ALTHOUGH LOOKING BACK I REALIZE THAT I FOR SOME REASON HADNT THOUGHT OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT VV WAS SCUM IN MY LOGIC

WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE IM 99% SURE VV IS SCUM

[gandalf5166]

I STILL DONT GET WHY THERE ARE SO MANY SCUM

IM FORCED TO CONCLUDE THAT MS IS TOWN

CAUSE AT LEAST TWO OF SPYSPY-SS-VV ARE DEFINITELY SCUM

IM WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THAT VV IS TOWN

BUT IF HE IS

WHO BLOCKED THE KILL? WE ALREADY HAVE TWO PROTECTIVE ROLES CLAIMED, AND NOBODY BUT ME WAS SEEN TARGETING EDGE BY QUADZ, OR ELSE HE WOULD HAVE CLAIMED IT

SO WHERE IS THE SCUMKILL? THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION IS 1. A NINJA OR 2. A TOWN RB AND A SCUM RB ONE TO BLOCK VV AND ONE TO BLOCK SCUM OR 3. ANDY HAS THREE PROTECTIVE ROLES WTF?

BUT 2. IS PROBABLY NOT THE CASE, AS THEY TOO WOULD HAVE CLAIMED IT

[gandalf5166]

@Fate: Are you going to respond to my last post? About the missing kill? Because if you're going to keep saying VV is town, you're going to have to come up with an explanation how.

[gandalf5166]

@Sevei: No, scum could not have also targeted Katy. Did you read the mod's response to that?

[gandalf5166]

Also, if there IS a town RB, he needs to claim, because he targeted scum N1.

[gandalf5166]

Sevei, can you be clear about EXACTLY what you do? You're being vague.

[gandalf5166]

This seems like an easy problem to solve. We imbue someone that we're SURE is town(sadly, the only person I can think of is me, but whatever) and then if Sevei neighbors with them, she's town and fate is scum. That said:

FATE YOU FUCKER BETRAYED ME

I WILL DESTROY YOU IF YOURE SCUM

[gandalf5166]

Are you fucking high gandalf?

You think I"M SCUM?

Jesus hell. Its not like there arent a MILLIONZ other things that could explain the lack of a kill N1, aka your PROTECT

IF QUADZ HAD SEEN A KILL HE WOULD HAVE SAID SO

OH WAIT

YOURE USING SOME BULLSHIT EXPLANATION AS TO WHY A SCUMKILL WOULDNT HAVE SHOWED UP

@MOD: IF PLAYER A PROTECTS PLAYER B AND PLAYER C KILLS PLAYER B AND PLAYER D WATCHES PLAYER B, WHAT DOES PLAYER D SEE?

THE FACT IS THAT IF SEVEI IS TELLING THE TRUTH, YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO BE SCUM

[gandalf5166]

BTW

I NOTICED YOU DIDNT BOTHER ASKING BEFORE, FATE

TOWNFATE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THAT SHIT LIKE A FAT KID ON A HAM SANDWICH

SCUMFATE WOULD BE ALL LIKE "OH THIS IS HOW IM GOING TO EXPLAIN IT BUT IM NOT GOING TO PROVE IT, BECAUSE I KNOW ITS A BUCKET OF SHIT"

WE'LL SEE

[gandalf5166]

IF THE MOD ANSWERS BACK THAT THE KILL WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SEEN, IM SORRY

BUT YOU KNOW I HAVE TO ASK

[gandalf5166]

NUH UH

HE KNEW I WAS A DOC

RIGHT?

[gandalf5166]

Oh, well I was trying to be vague(it isn't generally good strategy for a doc to just come out and claim ), good to see that came back to bite me in the ass. But if he had watcher as a superpower, why would he think I was a watcher?

That said, I just have to *facepalm* at quadz if that's really what's going on.

[gandalf5166]

Actually Fate, you're right. I have no idea how the setup works and there's no way for me to know how many other possible explanations there are.

Imbue VV
VOTE: singersigner

If we get to MC and there is NO other possible reason, we'll look back at this.

[gandalf5166]

Unimbue: VV

I just wanted to see your reaction. Yeah, Fate's town. Something else is going on. I don't know what, but it is.

[gandalf5166]

No, I was scumhunting you by completely flopping for no apparent reason. The VV imbue just made the flop more total. Townfate would ignore it and figure it was fine so long as I was voting for the right people. Scumfate would feign interest and start interrogating me.

[gandalf5166]

OH MY GOD

I JUST REALIZED WHO FATE IS

FATE IS UBERMEGA TOWN

FOR REALZ

I WAS THINKING THAT HIS META WAS KINDA WEIRD

JUST ACCEPT THAT FATE IS TOWN, K?

AT LEAST UNTIL MC

THAT SAID SPYSPY

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOURE GETTING AT

UNLESS YOURE ACCUSING QUADZ OF NOT PLAYING TO WIN

BE LESS SUBTLE

[gandalf5166]

Oh, like he assumed his fiance was town?

[gandalf5166]

I think that scum are guaranteed in [SS,MS,SpySpy]. Thus, I don't care which one of you dies first. Fate is willing to lynch you today, so that's what I'm going with. No, I don't think that quadz is stupid enough to write you off as scum just because you're his fiance. But if bringing that up gets you lynched, I don't give a shit.

[gandalf5166]

No, I was saying that the two remaining scum were definitely in there, not that all three of you were scum.

[gandalf5166]

I can confirm everything Sevei said. The QT, the fact that I didn't know who she is (Her QT Title is "The Precious"). I fully believe she is Town. She did not act like scum in a QT, plus she's already obvTown anyway from her attack on Plum. I immediately caught that it was Sevei and I didn't want to risk the ring to go down.

This is so easy. Quadz has a roleblock/watch N1. He watched/RB'd Edge. Katy had one kill flavor. Andy confirmed that he would post two kill flavors upon crosskill. Now what does that mean?

Now let's lynch Fate, imbue me and getitover with. He's already flailing scum. And this is ALMOST like a cop guilty. Don't know what the fuck is everyone bickering about, don't fucking care.

All right VVscum, since I know UNLESS I do this you're gonna not protect me tonight and when I turn up dead tomorrow go "ZOMG FATE WAS TOWN!??!?!? BUT BUT UTBUT BUT BUT"

I'm Katy's fucking Mason buddy and confirmed town. Now confirm in your next post that you are going to bodyguard me for the rest of the fucking game.

I SO CALLED THAT


@VV: DONT BULLSHIT US

DONT TRY TO WORM OUT OF KEEPING FATE ALIVE

YOURE PROTECTING ME AND FATE OR YOURE DYING

[gandalf5166]

WHAT ACT ARE YOU DROPPING SCUM?

HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU SAY MASTERSPYZ IS NOT A SWORDZSMIRHTHER

AND THEN CALL GANDALF SCUM IN THE SAME BREATH? HE CLEARES FRIGGIN GANDALF. MINAAAS IS A GIRLIE GIRL AND SHE WOULDN'T VOTE HOHYM SPECIALLY SINCE A VIG CLAIM BEFORE THE SWORDHUILTY LINED UP.

AND DON'T "ZOMG I CALLED IT" GANDALF. YOUR LULZY PLAY WAS "ZOMG FATE BREAKIN MY HEART" TP Ĩ CAN META FATE, HE'S TOEN" TO "ZOMG FUCKINGG I JUST REALESTZED FATTE WAS THE ?AST MASON WYOOPS. HE'S UBERMEGATRON TOWN BUT I CAN'T SAY WHY OUTLOUD SO ILL JUST MAKE THIS POST AN ANAGRAM OF FATE IS MASON!!!LoL"

THERE WAS NO ANAGRAM

AND WHAT I REALIZED IS THAT YOU WERE PLAYING LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOURE CONFIRMED TOWN

I SO CALLED IT
STOP SAYING GANDALF IS SCUM

YOURE FUCKING CONFUSING ME

BTW

FULLCLAIM:

I'm the Dwimmerlaik(I think I'm spelling that right, too lazy to check). Apparently in life I healed people with herbs, and..... I don't remember how that translated into undead terms, if you guys really want me to look it up I'll get off my ass I guess.

Normal Power: Doc
Superpower: Doc+makes target unblockable

Also SpyreX, I AM nearly confirmed for two reasons: One, I knew that VV had not lost his bulletproof. Two, I knew that there was a blocker because of my superpower. Both of these were announced a LONG time ago, and the ONLY way I could be scum is if BOTH me and VV are scum, and we came up with CRAZY GAMBIT OF GREATNESS THAT MAGICALLY KNEW THAT THERE WERE NO PROTECTIVE ROLES IN THE GAME.

Second: Whatever this Eye thing is, it's obviously from scum, as nobody has claimed it. Now, if this is a scum's normal power, WHY HASNT IT APPEARED ON PREVIOUS DAYS? That's right, VV is practically confirmed scum. We're lynching him TOMORROW. And I'm having second thoughts about imbuing him again. I don't care if Fate or me dies, you guys are smart enough to get along without us.

Third: OH LOL THERES NO TOWN ROLEBLOCKER

THATS RIGHT, WHAT DID I SAY EARLIER? THAT VV HAD TO BE SCUM UNLESS THERE WAS A TOWN ROLEBLOCKER?

[gandalf5166]

Prince Imrahil – Human so guessing a sword.
Legolas – Obv Bow.
Galardrial – I don’t think anything? I don’t recall her ever taking up arms in the books.
Glorfindel – Again no clue beyond knowing he was an elf who killed a Balrog.
Boromir – Sword (also confirmed in this game)
Elrond – Does he ever even fight in the Tolkien books?
Ewoyn – Sword based on beheading of Witch King IIRC.

I have no idea what Imrahil fought with. Galadriel was actually the greatest female warrior among the Eldar, however, the internet sucks so I can't find what she fought with. Maybe magic? Glorfindel is either bow or sword. Elrond I'm pretty sure used a spear.

As for Gandalf, 1. HES NOT IN THIS GAME 2. He would have a sword.

FATE I JUST REALIZED YOURE TRYING TO FUCKING LYNCH SEVEI

YOU REALIZE SHE CAN ONLY BE SCUM IF VV IS TOO, RIGHT? SO WE LYNCH VV AND GIVE THE RING TO CONFIRMED TOWN

IF SEVEI STARTS TALKING TO US SHES TOWN

THE RING IS NO WAY SCUM

VOTE: SPYREX

MAN UP

IF WE DIE, THE WORLD WILL NOT END

SCUMTEAM IS VV AND SPYREX

CONFIRMED

MASTERSPY MIGHT BE SCUM

NOT LIKELY THOUGH

[gandalf5166]

SS

DID YOU ACTUALLY READ MY LAST POST?

OR ARE YOU JUST BEING FUCKING STUBBORN ABOUT VV?

HES CLEARLY FLAILING SCUM

[gandalf5166]

Actually the more I've argued with you the less certain I've become about my SpyreX read because it actually makes more sense that he is telling the truth than being cheeky scum. I want him to talk about this "unblockable" shot before I say more. Other than that, no, I don't assume he would be truthful about his abilities as scum; that's why I was calling him cheeky--because if he is scum he is being pretty ballsy to talk about Gandalf (the character) being in the game.

And yes, I'm doing some speculating, but I'm drawing on what people are doing and saying and trying to put the pieces together. IF ANYTHING speculating is getting people to talk more and FINALLY this day has moved passed the "I KNO U R BUT WHAT AM I" crap that dominated the first part of it. As to your second point, I remember Gandalf almost exclusively using his staff, and the wizard's staff is almost synonymous with his power in most stories; I would guess if the Gandalf character truly is in the game and submits a kill then his kill flavor would be related to magic, not steel.

No, in the battles Gandalf almost exclusively uses his sword. And if he doesn't he's BEATING people with his staff, not casting spells with it.

[gandalf5166]

I actually like VV's posts lately. I love it when scum bus.

For those who are all skeptical about Sevei: How do any of the surviving town from last game make sense as a neighborizer? And WTF happened to "SEVEI IS TOWN LOLOLOLOLOL" from D1?

[gandalf5166]

Gandalf is NOT in this game.

This is not a bastard setup.

Ignoring what the mod SAID WITH HIS WORDS is fffff

Stop FEEDING THAT MADNESS and perhaps explain what you were going on about with I am confirmed to ME like that's been something I've said anything aboutt mr dalf

I DONT GET WHAT YOURE SAYING

PRETEND IM STUPID

I ALREADY EXPLAINED HOW IM CONFIRMED

UNLESS YOU SERIOUSLY THINK ME AND VV ARE SCUMBUDDIES THAT CAME UP WITH SOME CRAZY FUCKING GAMBIT

[gandalf5166]

OH

And that there are zip and nada protective roles.

[gandalf5166]

NOT WITH THE LAST SENTENCE

[gandalf5166]

Yes. The last sentence is in relation to:

Also SpyreX, I AM nearly confirmed for two reasons: One, I knew that VV had not lost his bulletproof. Two, I knew that there was a blocker because of my superpower. Both of these were announced a LONG time ago, and the ONLY way I could be scum is if BOTH me and VV are scum, and we came up with CRAZY GAMBIT OF GREATNESS THAT MAGICALLY KNEW THAT THERE WERE NO PROTECTIVE ROLES IN THE GAME.

What does that have to do with anything?

Why is that in reference to me?

I seem to remember you saying at some point something to the effect of "Why are we all running around acting like Gandalf is confirmed?"

[gandalf5166]

Oh, that's right. Fate, even if she WAS a scum neighborizer, why would she show up as the PRECIOUS? AKA She's mod-confirmed as the ring. Deal with it.

[gandalf5166]

TELL ME IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHOS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE SITE

I HAVE A POST THAT COVERS THROUGH PAGE 51, GIVE ME A SEC

[gandalf5166]

For some reason I'm only having problems on ONE of my computers. Hmmmmm.....

[gandalf5166]

Oh, that's right. Fate, even if she WAS a scum neighborizer, why would she show up as the PRECIOUS? AKA She's mod-confirmed as the ring. Deal with it.

Because she signed her posts as such, dumbass.

You really think there are FOUR MOD CONFIRMED TOWNIES in this fuckin game?

No. She's the PRECIOUS IN THE QT

AS IN SHE SIGNS IN AS THE PRECIOUS

AS IN INSTEAD OF SEVEI

IT SAYS THE PRECIOUS

NO WAY THE MOD WOULD JUST LET HER DO THAT

ALSO

ONLY THREE

I'm confirmed simply by weird coincidence, the mod couldn't have anticipated that.

The thing about imbuing me is that if we're going to imbue me, then Fate isn't getting protected. Because there's no reason for me to have my superpower if I'm going to protect someone who doesn't have a NA.

But imbuing VV is NOT a good idea. This eye thing is making me UBARNERVOUS, and me and Fate are not THAT important.

SS

YOU REALIZE THAT VV IS CONFIRMED SCUM IN LIKE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? AND THUS HE HAS NO MOTIVATION TO PLAY ALONG ANYMORE?

OKAY

THANKS TO THE SITE BEING DOWN, I CANT READ EVERYTING RIGHT NOW

I CAN READ EVERYTHING PAST 1248
SO ILL JUST TELL FATE HOW STUPID HES BEING

FATE

SEVEI IS EASILY CONFIRMED AS THE PRECIOUS

WE GO THROUGH WITH YOUR PLAN TO IMBUE ME AND I PROTECT VV

IF SEVEI POSTS IN A QT BETWEEN ME AND HER AS THE PRECIOUS

THEN SHES TOWN

UNDENIABLE

MODCONFIRMED

I DONT GIVE A SHIT IF YOU DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT FLAVOR

WERE NOT LYNCHING CONFIRMABLE TOWN


NOW SS

LET ME TELL YOU HOW FUCKING STUPID YOURE BEING

I HAVE A GIANT FLAMING EYE PISSED THE FUCK OFF AT ME

EVERYONE HAS CLAIMED

NOBODY HAS CLAIMED POWERS THAT INVOLVE GIANT FUCKING FLAMING EYES BEING PISSED OFF AT PEOPLE

THAT MEANS THAT THAT BELONGS TO SCUM

NOW, IF THAT WAS A NORMAL POWER, 1. THERES NO WAY IT IS, FLAVORWISE 2. WHY HASNT IT SHOWED UP BEFORE?

CLEARLY ITS A SUPERPOWER

GUESS WHO WAS FUCKING IMBUED LAST NIGHT? NOW I DONT KNOW WHAT THE ANGRY FUCKING EYE DOES

BUT ITS PROBABLY REALLY FUCKING BAD

I DONT WANT VV TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AGAIN

SO FUCK BLOCKING THE KILL

SCUM IS VV/ONE OF THE SPYS

NOW FOR FUCKING EVERYBODY:

WE ARE LYNCHING ONE OF THE SPYS TODAY

TOWNSPY: WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU IT IS, IF WE DECIDE TO LYNCH YOU, JUST SELFVOTE

ITS WHAT HAS TO BE DONE

FATE: I UNDERSTAND MY NIGHT ACTION

BUT MOST OF THE OTHER ONES ARE RETARDED

AS IS YOUR GODDAMN FUCKING INSISTENCE ON SEVEI DEATH


WE ARE LYNCHING SPYREX, BECAUSE HES THE MORE USELESS OF THE TWO SPYS(ROLEWISE, NOT PLAYERWISE, OBV) AS WELL AS THE MORE LIKELY TO BE SCUM

VOTE: SpyreX
Imbue: gandalf5166

ILL READ THE PAGE OR TWO I MISSED NOW

The only one pretty much proven to be confirmable by mod is AGM, who has claimed an ability that actually gets him a note from the mod. Masons are generally confirmed, but not always, so while it's generally a safe conclusion to make, it's not guaranteed, either, and unless more than one of the masons say they are alignment confirmed, then it can't actually BE confirmed until a flip; the same with me; flavor confirms me, not the mod. Stop being a stubborn mule about this and start voting for actual scum.

this isn't a bastard game, non-confirmed masons would be NEIGHBORS.

[gandalf5166]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

CAN SEVEI AT LEAST WAIT TO DIE?

[gandalf5166]

WAIT

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE IMBUING ME IF IM JUST GOING TO BE PROTECTING FATE ANYWAYS?

UNIMBUE

[gandalf5166]

I bet money that scum have daytalk, and Plum said "fuck it. Fates locked in and he won't let go. Bus me now Sevei, do it hard."

That didn't answer her question.

Fate, when Sevei flips town, will VV finally be confirmed?

FUCK. Scum must be having a fucking field day knowing that there's a known bodyguard who's able to BG

3

people if imbued, NOT getting imbued tonight.

Fate, you realize that if VV is imbued, we're guaranteed 4 townies tomorrow? Why do you need to imbue someone who's pretty much confirmed town at this point?

VV, FATE IS TOWN. HE IS THE VICTIM OF A FAILED KILL. CLEARLY. WHO THE HELL ELSE WOULD'VE VISITED FATE N1.

WHY ARE YOU STILL ACTING LIKE VV IS TOWN

I CANT EVEN COMPREHEND

Oh look, VV is coming up with BS reasons not to protect me... even using quotes from a finished ga,e where I was scum?

Oh look, Sevei is fine with me not being protected and doesn't comment on how's stupiid that is?

Were not imbuing VV Singer, She just outright REFUSED to protect confirmed town.

When I'm dead tomorrow lynch VV, no. Questions. Asked.

TBH, I'm getting fucking tired of you too.

Unvote
VOTE: MasterSpy

This wagon is going more places.

[gandalf5166]

I can do that.

UNVOTE
VOTE: MasterSpy

[gandalf5166]

AND SORRY

READING OUT OF ORDER GOT ME CONFUSED AS TO WHICH PLAN WAS THE MOST RECENT

LOOKS LIKE IMA BE DEAD TOMORROW

[gandalf5166]

LOL

UNVOTE
VOTE: SPYREX

YOU CAN LYNCH SEVEI TOMORROW

BUT ONLY IF SPY FLIPS TOWN

[gandalf5166]

BTW THE LYNCH PLAN IS:

YOU LYNCH VV AS SOON AS YOU SEE A SCUMFLIP

SPYREX
SEVEI
MASTERSPY

WE ONLY HAVE ONE MISLYNCH

SO DONT YOU DARE GET DISTRACTED JUST CAUSE IM NOT HERE TO KEEP YOU ON TRACK

IVE PUT SEVEI IN THERE STRICTLY TO HUMOR YOUR PARANOIA

[gandalf5166]

OH MY GOD

DO YOU GUYS REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND SEVEIS ROLE

She doesn't rolecop the imbued. Quadz TOLD her about his abilities.

And I protected Fate last night. I didn't want any VV shenanigans.

[gandalf5166]

Shit. I just realized that I never reimbued myself. Tell me that Spy didn't just hammer.

Imbue: gandalf5166

[gandalf5166]

Oh, good. One more vote makes the hammer on SpyreX, and I've already been imbued. So we're good.

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, I'd much rather lynch MS, but whatever floats Fate's boat.

[gandalf5166]

Singer what part of that post made fucking sense?

"MS is bussing now instead of scumhunting, therefores hes useless. Im totally down to switch to MS even though I just said MS is bussing SpySpy"

AGM is NOT saying who he is going to roleblock tonight, he has a list of choices.

You are gifting me tonight Singer, deviation from the plan is grounds for death.

I swear to god, if you lynch SS just cause she won't give you goodies........

[gandalf5166]

I'm already imbued, SpyreX is at L1.

[gandalf5166]

FIRSTPOST

Oh, and bah.

[gandalf5166]

YOU SEE ME WALKING THROUGH MORDOR WITH THE RING I LOVE

AND IM LIKE

FUCK YOU

MAN NOW

FUCK YOU

---------

Dedicated to Fate

Seriously, we should have won that, and Fate had to fuck it up. And then AGM never even thought twice.

[gandalf5166]

YOU SEE ME WALKING THROUGH MORDOR WITH THE RING I LOVE

AND IM LIKE

FUCK YOU

MAN NOW

FUCK YOU

---------

Dedicated to Fate

Seriously, we should have won that, and Fate had to fuck it up. And then AGM never even thought twice.

First post from you?

BTWI haven't read any QTs yet.

Who the FUCK told me to LYNCHVVLYNCHVVLYNCHVV with their dying breath? Shut up.

LYNCHING VV WASNT YOUR PROBLEM

REFUSING TO WIN WITH A SURVIVOR WAS

FUCKTARD

[gandalf5166]

FATE

SEVEI COULDNT HAVE BETRAYED YOU IF YOU HAD JUST FUCKING LYNCHED MS WHILE YOU STILL HAD THE GODDAMN OPTION

WHERE IN THAT GAME COULD SEVEI HAVE QUICKHAMMERED TOWN?

[gandalf5166]

Come on Fate, you read my wall.

Lolureallythinkhereadyourwall?

[gandalf5166]

Oh no, I stopped reading the game once I realized Fate was going to make us lose. Which was around that time. I'll check it out though.

[gandalf5166]

OH AND BY THE WAY

WE KNEW FOR A GODDAMN FACT THAT IMBUES COULD BE ROLEBLOCKED

BECAUSE THE ONLY FUCKING THING HOHUM EVEN GOT FROM THE IMBUE WAS IMMUNITY TO ROLEBLOCK

AND FATE

REMIND ME WHY THE FUCK SHE WOULD DO THAT?

[gandalf5166]

I WAS NOT WRONG ABOUT SPYREX.

THERES A REASON I LYNCHED HIM OVER MASTERSPY, BECAUSE HE WAS SCUM.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLOLOL

[gandalf5166]

You had a bad game. (A

really

bad game). Own up to it like a man.

Lolirony.

[gandalf5166]

I WASNT IN MAGNA'S LIST OF SUCKFEST

WOOT

[gandalf5166]

solution so nobody has to listen to magna being a dick postgame
PL d1

No, D2. If he's town, he'll die N1 >.>

[gandalf5166]

I was really hopeful that scum would NK Fate. I knew it wouldn't happen though, precisely because his reads were SO wrong.