I read through the thread last night but was too tired to actually post …
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First things first –
Imbue: VV
Blocking multiple targets is increadibly powerful and if Edge ends up dead we can safely assume he’s lying and outed scum. Win / Win.
VOTE: HoHum
I’m disappointed Mina didn’t take care of these in her post. Aside from everything I said yesterday HoHum’s hammer after Mari has all the hallmarks of scum desperate for cred. And the following cannot be ignored.
Hohum wrote:A scum aligned mason? That means we're dealing with two scum factions?
I’d point to [REDACTED] in [REDACTED] if I could as another classic example of why this is a pure scum-claim.
Hohum wrote:I'm claiming because it's obvious that someone either had a successful protect or a roleblock last night and we should be lynching that person's target.
Translated – oops I just screwed up badly I might as well try to fish for Town PRs before I hang.
Hohum wrote:'cos I'm a greedy motherfucker? I didn't want to have to deal with her today. It was either her or fate. I contemplated vigging whoever got imbuned yesterday too because I figured scum had as much of a chance of winning an imbune as any of us did. meh.
Um what? You vigged Katy not because she was scummy but because you didn’t want to deal with suspicion? You considered vigging Fate for a personal grudge or whoever got imbued based on completely stupid statistical thinking.
I disagreed with your logic in the one game we played together but this is just so bad it’s making my head spin.
Hohum wrote:Also as far as the rest of the game is concerned, I'm almost positive that the fact that quadz was imbued last night clears him. If he were scum he should have submitted the kill. Based on the imbune mechanics that kill would have succeeded regardless of blocks/protects.
What imbue mechanics are you speaking of? The theorized but unproven notion that the Ringbearer can’t be role-blocked?
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Singer wrote:Hohum...the fact that you didn't know Katy was town is pretty damming, I hope you realize that.
This is bad. A Town player might suspect Katy was Town via reads (as I personally did) but not knowing for certain is part of the Uninformed Minority gig. The damning part is not the vig on Katy but the reasons for such and the ‘Wow she was scum’ reaction which makes no sense if you had a Morder Role Pm
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Singer wrote:Quadz...I think it's time to give us the details of what happened last night. Cuz like, that would be totally tubular, dude.
Especially since I think you're frantic for a reason
Why exactly should anyone be giving any Powers away when not absolutely necessary? We've already had VV claim and soft-claims by Gandalf and Quadz. AGM is already outed. Town giving a fucking roadmap to NKs is not smart.
Also please clarify what the frantic part means. Are you insinuating that Quadz might be scummy?
Singer wrote:I'M SAYING THAT IF HOHUM IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH THEN HE COULD BE SCUM WITH PLUM,
NOT OH YES I THINK THERE ARE TWO SCUM GROUPS.
Actually, I'm ready to believe Plum, VV, MS scumteam right now. Just saying.
Hohum's probably just dumb like I was in my game before.
1. Excuse making “hohum is just dumb” noted.
2. Soft acknowledgment of hohum’s scumminess (bolded for emphasis) while refusing to actually support said lynch noted.
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What the hell is behind the VV wagon that popped up again? He may have been stupid to claim as he did but he was under little pressure.
Who the hell is on that again?
MOD wrote:VasudeVa (4): singersigner, quadz08, hohum, gandalf5166
This is for future reference.
Also the following really makes me wonder
MOD wrote:VasudeVa (4): Edge, SpyreX,
gandalf5166
, VasudeVa
Gandalf what the fuck are you doing imbuing and voting the same player?
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Gandalf wrote:EVEN IF VV HAD BEEN ROLEBLOCKED HE WOULD STILL BE TRACKED AS HAVING TARGETED EDGE
As previously stated that’s not how things work. And why do you immediately dismiss the notion that VV could be blocked when you yourself said your role-PM pretty much indicates a scum Blocker is in the game?