Mafia 113: Mafia in Mendo ~ Game Over

[Diacria]

Greetings, fellow Californians.

I propose a social contract for this game, by which we agree

A) Not to claim vanilla townie unless at L-1, we are the leading wagon with an impending deadline, or during a massclaim, or our claim can somehow shed light on someone elses (for example: someone claims to have tracked you going somewhere).

B) Not to self-vote, barring the 2:1:1 endgame scenario.

C) Not to lie about our roles.

All the above on pain of lynch. Please state whether you agree, or if not, which of those you feel you ought to be able to do.

Add D) Not to Lurk, and we're ready to go.

[Diacria]

A) Not to claim vanilla townie unless at L-1, we are the leading wagon with an impending deadline, or during a massclaim, or our claim can somehow shed light on someone elses (for example: someone claims to have tracked you going somewhere).

B) Not to self-vote, barring the 2:1:1 endgame scenario.

C) Not to lie about our roles.

I seriously hope you don't think scum will honour C)...

Vote: Dramonic

[Diacria]

Why do people always think that leading the town is scummy? It's not.
Nullreads with musing are also scummy now!...not
Active lurking at Pg. 1????? You're funny.
lolwut.

Unvote, Vote boberz

Dramonic is still scum though.

[Diacria]

diarcria, why do you think dramonic is scummy because of that post?

Will explain later.
And boberz is hilarious.

[Diacria]

Oh yeah, can we try to lynch someone every 20 pages or so at most? Long days that drag on suck.

[Diacria]

bob, what I think Fonz meant ( and if so I agree with him), you seem like a guy who the quote "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" applies too, i.e. knowing just enough to think you're being clever, but too little to know when you're screwing up.

[Diacria]

Oh, I got ninja'd

I agree with sirdanilot. Given that the town can lose halfway through day 2 if enough things go wrong, we should make sure every lynch counts.

Jack, what you mean by the lose halfway through day 2 thing?

[Diacria]

Changing mind, boberz = town.

Vote: Dramonic

[Diacria]

Since when does random voting induce pressure?

The RVS usually results in at least one scum slipping up and posting something odd.

Examples please.

[Diacria]

Diacria why did you change your mind on me??? Against the grain of conversation if I may say.
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Your overeagerbeaverness and tonality is blatantly town.

[Diacria]

Unvote, Vote Deer

[Diacria]

To get a wagon rolling.
Still have gut scumread on Dram and a wagon that way would be lovely too.

[Diacria]

Fur, what is your prior experience with mafia?

[Diacria]

Lovely, Deer and Dram are both scum.

[Diacria]

Lovely, you're trying to setup a chain lynch.

On scum.
Hey (everyone else in the game): What do you all think about Dram???!?? There's been a disturbing lack of comment on him.

Furco and Mehplus both look fine to me. Would still very much appreciate some off-site meta on the former but he already said no...

[Diacria]

Sigh...let's add some Caps Lock:
HEY EVERYONE ELSE IN THE GAME, WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT DRAM???!??

[Diacria]

I played with him and he was town. He basically played like this and got vigged night 1. Don't see anything particularly suspicious.

PYP 2?
It looks like he was vigged by scum there and his play feels different to me.

[Diacria]

He looks at least vaguely engaged/trying to do something in that game.
Every comment he makes here just feels so

off

.

[Diacria]

Furco, can you post a link to your offsite meta? Please? Pretty please?

[Diacria]

Gut heavily leans VI town for Furco.

[Diacria]

I want to check on his posting style, the way he acts etc. in his offsite games to see if they're consistent with here.

[Diacria]

I recommend people snoop around and take a quick look at other ongoing games with Furco in them. I will say no more.
My insistence on the offsite meta being supplied, is that I feel Furco's current posting is the standard and style of his old games.

Vote: Dram

[Diacria]

Diacria, do you really think it is in his playstyle to agree to a contract BECAUSE he is avidly against day one roleclaiming (which is the singular reason he gave to agreeing to contract) and then roleclaiming when he has a few votes on him?

I've been trying hard to not directly say what I think about his intelligence level...

[Diacria]

Jack's totally in line with his meta.
I need to check up on Dram's though.

[Diacria]

Nope. I did however breadcrumb that I like ice cream. Can you spot where?

I know this one!
Ice cream must be kept in the freezer! And roleblocker's freeze actions. So Fonz must be a ROLEBLOCKER.
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US EARLIE?!?!?

On a different note, I found some other stuff concerning Furcolow and his offsite meta but I'll wait for him to get back first.

[Diacria]

Took a glance at Dram's meta. Keeping my vote here for now.

[Diacria]

I disagree completely with you in regards to the gut and making cases stuff in the above post but I'm in in no mood (and rarely am) to enter a theoretical argument right now.
My read is still town on sirdani anyway, so whatevs.
Furco was active on the site in a different topic 10 minutes ago or so he should be here soon.
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Also, I'm going out on a limb and calling Furco almost certainly town due to a reason I unfortunately cannot say. Dram should also know why eventually as should some good searchers.

[Diacria]

Also, I should give you my other site meta

YES!!!!!!!

[Diacria]

i gotta vote for fonzie though, as he's being aggressive
i don't understand the aggression, unless you have something to hide.

Unvote.

Vote Fonz

AGGRESSION IS NOT A SCUMMY!!!

[Diacria]

FURCOLOW, WE WANT A LINK TO YOUR OLD SITE.

[Diacria]

What the hell should a person do when they have a huge town read on someone who's a complete moron...

[Diacria]

*tries again*

Also, I should give you my other site meta, as it will prove to you that I act this way in every other game that I am pro-town.

You wrote the above quote, kay? You say that you should give us the meta. Please do!
Thanks!

[Diacria]

Furcolow, username on teamliquid please. If you're going to be stupid and not link to the actual game I'll find it myself.

[Diacria]

Furcolow...actually, please do as all a favor and link to the

actual games that you played in.

FoS: bv

[Diacria]

Fonz is absolutely right. Furco is vigmeat.
Coupled with my town read on him, I'd bet loads there are scum on his wagon right now, i.e. bv and dram.

[Diacria]

Can we please have a wagon on bv or dram, this whole Furco distraction has given us something in that there is probably scum on his wagon.

[Diacria]

Unvote, vote BV

[Diacria]

Hey bob, why don't you join the "Ignore Furco and let the Vig take care of him club!" too!.

FoS: Deer

[Diacria]

Yeah, Deer, bv, and dram are all still good peoples to look at.

[Diacria]

Case on bv was dependent on Furcolow town. He still leans town for me, but what the hell, I'm hoping he gets vigged so we can have closure on that.

Unvote, Vote Deer

[Diacria]

Hey dani. Can you stop tunneling on Jack for one teensy second and just assume he's town. Who's scum in that scenario?

[Diacria]

Deadline's in 6 days.
I'm okay with runnning up deer, dram, or bv.

[Diacria]

Oh nevermind, that was dana's V/la number.
I'm still okay with running up any of the above.

[Diacria]

Unvote, vote mehplus

Stop lurking.

[Diacria]

Fonz, why did my vote onto Mehrawr reek? It was for the same reason as Jack's.
I'll check the Deer meta now, but did anyone post a scum game of his that I missed?

[Diacria]

I get the case on me, yes. By the way, since my lynch seems somewhat inevitable, should I just go ahead and claim here?

At L-4? No.
I need to catch up. Will get something up today or tomorrow.

[Diacria]

Was really busy over the last few days and most likely won't be able to be on most of tomorrow.
Short of time now too, but there will be content before today is over. I skimmed the last 2 pages and my gut says both mehplus and deer are scum. anyway, more later.

[Diacria]

RL was being stupid.
Will definitely definitely catch up today, really sorry for the delays.

[Diacria]

I don't think MPR is scum anymore.
Ignore my previous comment on gutdeer town, Jack's scumhunting wall + Rolefishery + post 555 are all pretty terribad for him.

Unvote, Vote deer

boberz/furco are both still town.
Other options I would still be happy roping with are Dram and bv.

Yeahr...nothing much has really changed..

[Diacria]

Oh yeah, I think gant is probably town here.

[Diacria]

...and dana too.

[Diacria]

Furco is still town.

Unvote, Vote Dram

The time has finally come for him to die with FIRE AND FLAMES.

[Diacria]

Why has barely anyone wanted to rope Dram thus far this whole game except for me.
I do not support a Deer lynch today. My other suspect, bv, I also will not support today on account of the kinda-softclaim.

[Diacria]

I have a theory about what happened but I'll wait for him. Do you still think Dram is playing to his town meta?

[Diacria]

People NOT voting Dram who used his meta as a reason not to earlier: Do you think he's still align with his town meta?

Everyone else NOT voting Dram: Why aren't you.

[Diacria]

I don't think sirdani is scum.

Vote: Dram

[Diacria]

Unvote, Vote Damon

[Diacria]

Read sirdani's post. Damon is already pretty scummeh withoutt he damning investigation.
I don't think bob is scum.
Gut getting wierd vibes from Nico and jack.

[Diacria]

It's not too big a coincidence.
Damon is scum and is going to die.
The stalling on hammer for more discussion is stupid, I don't mind one now.

[Diacria]

Meh.
Damon, just do us all a favor and self-hammer.
If you flip town the vig will bullet hole bv up...

[Diacria]

# 4 ~

Furcolow

(horrordude0215, greenindirt, dramonic,

bv310

)
# 3 ~

bv310

(

deer

, Nicodemus,

Diacria

)
# 2 ~ sirdanilot (Jack, MehPlusRawr)
# 1 ~ Jack (sirdanilot)
# 1 ~ MehPlusRawr (RichardGHP)
# 1 ~

The Fonz

(

Furcolow

)
# Not Voting: CCARaven4,

danakillsu

,

HackerHuck

,

Damon_Gant

,

The Fonz

, boberz

# 3 ~

bv310

(

deer

, Nicodemus,

Diacria

)
# 3 ~

Furcolow

(horrordude0215, dramonic,

bv310

)
# 2 ~ MehPlusRawr (RichardGHP, greenindirt)
# 1 ~ sirdanilot (MehPlusRawr)
# 1 ~ Jack (sirdanilot)
# 1 ~

deer

(Jack)
# 1 ~ CCARaven4 (boberz)
# 1 ~

Damon_Gant

(

Furcolow

)
# Not Voting: CCARaven4,

danakillsu

,

HackerHuck

,

Damon_Gant

,

The Fonz

# 3 ~

deer

(Jack,

Diacria

,

Furcolow

)
# 2 ~

Furcolow

(horrordude0215, dramonic)
# 2 ~

bv310

(

deer

, Nicodemus)
# 2 ~ MehPlusRawr (RichardGHP, greenindirt)
# 1 ~ sirdanilot (MehPlusRawr)
# 1 ~ Jack (sirdanilot)
# Not Voting: CCARaven4,

danakillsu

,

HackerHuck

,

Damon_Gant

,

The Fonz

, boberz

# 6 ~ MehPlusRawr (RichardGHP, greenindirt,

The Fonz

, sirdanilot,

Diacria

, Jack)
# 2 ~ boberz (

Furcolow

,

HackerHuck

)
# 2 ~

bv310

(

deer

, Nicodemus)
# 1 ~

Furcolow

(dramonic)
# 1 ~ sirdanilot (MehPlusRawr)
# Not Voting: CCARaven4,

danakillsu

,

Damon_Gant

, boberz,

bv310

CryMeARiver

# 8 ~

deer

(Jack, greenindirt,

bv310

, MehPlusRawr, boberz, dramonic,

Diacria

,

Furcolow

)
# 4 ~ MehPlusRawr (sirdanilot, CryMeARiver,

HackerHuck

,

deer

)
# 1 ~

bv310

(

danakillsu

)
# 1 ~ dramonic (Nicodemus)

# 10 ~

danakillsu

(Jack, CryMeARiver,

Furcolow

,

The Fonz

,

HackerHuck

, MehPlusRawr, RichardGHP, dramonic,

deer

, Nicodemus)
# 2 ~

deer

(greenindirt,

bv310

)
# 2 ~

Furcolow

(boberz,

danakillsu

)
# 1 ~ MehPlusRawr (sirdanilot)
# 1 ~ dramonic (

Diacria

)
# 1 ~ sirdanilot (

Damon_Gant

)
Not Voting: CCARaven4

# 8 ~

Damon_Gant

(

bv310

,

Diacria

,

deer

, Jack, CryMeARiver, Nicodemus, sirdanilot, MehPlusRawr)
# 1 ~ sirdanilot (

Damon_Gant

)
# Not Voting: greenindirt, CCARaven4, dramonic, boberz,

HackerHuck

, RichardGHP

[Diacria]

Vote: Greenidirt

Fos: Jack

Gut.

[Diacria]

Actually I changed my mind. Other way around.

Unvote, Vote Jack

[Diacria]

Case on Jack was not VC's. I wrote GUT pretty clearly.

Below for my reference:
With the speed of built up of the dana wagon, I would bet on at least 2 scum, probably 3 on it.
So that's 2-3 {Jack, Cry, Meh, Richard, Dram, Nico}.

Deer wagon at it's height is the same.
1,2{Jack, green, Meh, bob, dram}

Keeping hands clean from dana wagon:
1, 2{Greeni, boberz, Sirdani}

Competing bv vs. furco vs. mehplus
1, 2{Richard, horror, greeni, dram}

Assuming Mehplus town:
1, 2{Richard, Greeni, sirdani, Jack}

[Diacria]

Diacra, satisfy my curiosity as to why you're not obsessed with my death anymore?

I decided to let the Owl fly again another day.
Now, who calls you Owl? Hush hush! Don't tell people.

I also had the benefit of the Hoots and seeing the inner workings and all the fun stuff...ya know what I mean.

Hush now!

[Diacria]

Unvote, Vote Nico

Fos: Jack

[Diacria]

Reads are content.
Let's wagon Nico. I think Meh should be vigged.

[Diacria]

Chno = town

[Diacria]

I need to figure out exactly why Nico is scum.
Could you guys hop on. It would help.

[Diacria]

RAVEN< WHO' SCUM???
I'M TOO LAZY TO READ BACK TO LOOK FOR WHAT YOU THINK.

I need to figure out exactly why Nico is scum.
Could you guys hop on. It would help.

^^^Good posting.

[Diacria]

RAVEN< WHO' SCUM???
I'M TOO LAZY TO READ BACK TO LOOK FOR WHAT YOU THINK.

I need to figure out exactly why Nico is scum.
Could you guys hop on. It would help.

^^^Good posting.

PERSISTENCY WILL PAY OFF IN THE END.

[Diacria]

his play here is nothing close to teleporter.

[Diacria]

Nico is scum.
Let's run him up.