The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

dramonic · Post Post #18 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:04 am

Vote: Sajin

Cuz he's himself

dramonic · Post Post #26 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:38 am

That and he claimed Vig-Jester and somehow has a pre-game investigation (which he wasted on Milkshake?)

Seriously?

Vote: Kise

dramonic · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:53 am

Maybe, maybe not. Who knows?

Anyways, it sparks discussion and it's scummy.

dramonic · Post Post #30 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:06 am

This isn't a magical warfare though.
Well, with the Goma's influence, I guess you could say it is...

dramonic · Post Post #43 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:27 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Snow_Bunny wrote:
Vote: Kmd

He has a crazy avatar.
PLEASE tell me you arent a relative of YellowBunny. 0.o

BM

I played with Yellowbunny and she was fine, maybe a bit lurky. Had a particularly scarring game with YB?

dramonic · Post Post #99 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:36 pm

Battle Mage wrote: Lol, secondary wagon should be on Dramonic right about now. Why would his investigation be a waste if Milkshake flipped scum, as he claimed?

BM

I was going to say he's a newbie, so his odds of slipping are higher, while we know for a fact some of the more experienced players here can easily play town due to lotsa experience.

Then I noticed he made his account in 2006...

So I curl up into a ball and retract that XP

dramonic · Post Post #127 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:57 pm

Well then balls, what's your explanation for Kise's... claim-thingy.

dramonic · Post Post #129 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:00 pm

Seriously, I keep mistaking this game with mafia 101, it's mind-numbing.

Also, is that a real kill or a joke Kmd?

dramonic · Post Post #135 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:09 pm

I've got deadly balls :3

dramonic · Post Post #138 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:12 pm

If CKD can just get over here and clean this uncertainty it'd be nice.

dramonic · Post Post #141 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:16 pm

or SK

dramonic · Post Post #149 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:26 pm

*punch to the face*

Unvote

grumble...

dramonic · Post Post #151 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:32 pm

Oh, pick me, pick me!

Vote: Tubby

That's how you form the pact right?

dramonic · Post Post #155 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:41 pm

oh for god's sake...

Kmd, why the fake daykill?

dramonic · Post Post #158 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:50 pm

???

Oh, I get it. At least I think I do.

I presume the point was to have Ben claim scum before dying?

dramonic · Post Post #160 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:57 pm

Wait, you cheat on me with BM?

dramonic · Post Post #162 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:07 pm

I ain't hetero, Haylen is hermaphrodite dear. She's got boobs but down there she's all male.

Now to get back on topic.

Kmd better get here soon to explain his behaviour. Plum provides an okay reason, but still...

dramonic · Post Post #169 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:21 pm

You could just unhook it, he's probably scum, what with not wanting to participate actively.

Kmd, got some extra fake daykill?

dramonic · Post Post #172 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:30 pm

Kise, I'm completely lost through your claim. What are you, a suicidal 3-shot cop?

Also, if your investigations are true and not another weird trick of yours, then we can presume you're insane.

dramonic · Post Post #179 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:40 pm

DeathNote wrote:That depends.... is council town?

In this post, we see DN is a third party

Unvote
Vote: DeathNote

Incidentally, I don't like third parties.

dramonic · Post Post #266 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:55 am

Looks like sleeping won't be an option with this game

I'll probably hammer DeathNote if he isnt replaced, and doesnt come back to participate. But we have loads more time which we really ought to use...

DN is at like, L-8.

dramonic · Post Post #270 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:25 am

Hmm...

On one hand, we have DN, who fails to understand the basic law of mafia if he's town: Informed Minority vs Uninformed Majority

On the other, we have Stark, who apparently fails at communicating reasonings to DN. It's not written in the council PM that council = town, however with the OP and the flavour it's clear that council = town.

I'm more towards the DN lynch. Stark's mistake is more plausible from unfocused townie, while DN's is just plain ridiculous.

Also, I said 3rd party earlier because if he was a converter no doubt he'd know he's scum.

dramonic · Post Post #303 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:56 am

DeathNote isn't obvscum, he's obv3rdparty.

dramonic · Post Post #319 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:39 pm

You are aware I suppose that you just unvoted and voted Jordan while you were already voting him?

So, you said "Thar be scums (and dragons)" in response to which of my post exactly?

dramonic · Post Post #324 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:53 pm

I'll agree we have a nice scum kebab.

dramonic · Post Post #369 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:50 am

Knowing all this, I doubt any cop in their right mind would investigate SB tonight

dramonic · Post Post #397 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:43 am

Unvote

With the most recent explanations, I accept I was wrong.

Now I'll go read the case on Jordan, since he seems to be a hot-topic.

dramonic · Post Post #401 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:53 am

I'm not the one you asked, but I'm all for vigging. Lynching would be a waste of a day.

dramonic · Post Post #425 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:44 pm

Daykill: Snow_Bunny

There, problem solved.

dramonic · Post Post #433 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:52 pm

in your last 8 posts, you say you are rereading or reading 6 times. Stop saying you're doing it and DO it.

dramonic · Post Post #437 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:08 pm

at the bottom of the page, under the quick-submit you'll find "Display posts from previous:" and a bunch of scrollboxes.

Just pick a player and you can read em in isolation (called ISO)

dramonic · Post Post #443 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:25 pm

many posts allow for an easier slip

The slip being...?

dramonic · Post Post #493 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:51 am

I'd policy lynch RC, but since with that attitude he'll get modkilled before too long I won't waste a vote.

DGB, I'm not sure I see any case on Kmd... <<

dramonic · Post Post #498 (isolation #33) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:22 am

What kind of question is that?

dramonic · Post Post #540 (isolation #34) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:41 am

Well, if we're going to lynch him we might as well get him to resolve it with a cuddle of DOOM!

dramonic · Post Post #542 (isolation #35) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:46 am

that too.

Jordan, do you end the day by snuggling people or no?

dramonic · Post Post #547 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:08 am

First, having him suicide confirms he isn't mafia, second it allows us to build extra reads, according to how whoever he kills flip.

dramonic · Post Post #569 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:28 pm

Jester speculations will get us nowhere.
Rosso isn't jesteresque, he's just abrasive.

dramonic · Post Post #598 (isolation #38) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:11 pm

I'd be inclined to give DN his night. He always plays scummy, it's his unintentionnal-meta. Also, blow either

A)the miller
B)One of the wagons

Those are easily the best information kills we could get

dramonic · Post Post #601 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:12 pm

HOLD ON!

DN, what's with not wanting to answer questions?

Claim why you need to survive the night. If it's credible a doc will protect you.

dramonic · Post Post #602 (isolation #40) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:13 pm

lol, just looked at the wagons.

My point B translates to bomb Stark XD

dramonic · Post Post #606 (isolation #41) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:15 pm

Stark/SB

whichever you prefer. Unless you wanna go the DGB way, then kill anyone with a single vote XD

dramonic · Post Post #614 (isolation #42) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:24 pm

Thing is DN, Jordan won't suicide himself <<

dramonic · Post Post #619 (isolation #43) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:27 pm

he can't be "townie" per se.

dramonic · Post Post #621 (isolation #44) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:28 pm

too late llama

dramonic · Post Post #624 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:29 pm

Jordan was in dire need of affection

dramonic · Post Post #627 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:31 pm

in front of a monitor...

You're fragile dude.

dramonic · Post Post #630 (isolation #47) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:34 pm

very pissed, you'd have made us waste a good amount of discussion on useless speculations.

dramonic · Post Post #633 (isolation #48) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:37 pm

well, you're both dead now.

Full-claim, with flavour?

dramonic · Post Post #646 (isolation #49) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:53 pm

~Jordan` wrote:Hm...I think I'll hug dramonic for the lulls.

I wouldn't find it that fun. While I love hugs, I'm not so hot if you explode in my arms.

dramonic · Post Post #651 (isolation #50) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:58 pm

or Judas.

In which case the answer is BACKSTAB!

dramonic · Post Post #653 (isolation #51) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:00 pm

let's just skip the preliminaries

dramonic · Post Post #656 (isolation #52) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:05 pm

we're waiting on llama

dramonic · Post Post #659 (isolation #53) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:08 pm

Jordan, the point is to build case from the alignment of the player you kill.

Although with DN's latest reaction (and Ben's too), we have nice case building bases.

dramonic · Post Post #670 (isolation #54) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:04 am

possible V/LA until the 27th.

dramonic · Post Post #673 (isolation #55) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:11 am

patience is a virtue, clearly Jordan lacked it.

This will require rereading, but don't expect a post too soon, I'm leaving for the weekend.

dramonic · Post Post #677 (isolation #56) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:04 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
vote: Kublai Khan
because I'm always happy to help bus'ing scum.

So you think KK is scum or you're just being antitown?

dramonic · Post Post #683 (isolation #57) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:07 am

Snow_Bunny wrote:
Well, just an advice for those who want to vig me. If there's going to be any vigging for me, at least do it during the day, when it's untraceable.

Do you seriously mean that???

dramonic · Post Post #738 (isolation #58) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:49 pm

Meh, both our top cases seem rather weak to me. The people pushing them are scummier than the people being pushed.

Need to reread and stuff.

dramonic · Post Post #740 (isolation #59) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:29 pm

scummier for pushing such weak cases.

I haven't started rreading yet.

dramonic · Post Post #785 (isolation #60) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:01 pm

VP Baltar wrote: I at least know he's in the game. Dramonic has that many posts and I feel like I barely know he exists. I don't like that at all.

I was V/LA for the last 3 days and am working on an analysis as we speak, bear with me for a few more hours.

dramonic · Post Post #794 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:53 pm

Allright, I've got a bunch of questions and my summarized reads in there.
If you want a more indepth opinion on someone in particular just ask

tubby216: Slightly scummy, tunneling through and through on SB. Pretty sure the pact thing was a bunch of crap.
Q1) In SB's position, what would you do? Lynch yourself?

Vaya: Neutral, not much content, stuff about RVS, Stark and SB, which has been worked to death
Q1) Opinion on people who aren't snow_bunny or Stark?

Battle Mage: Slightly scummy, his vote-swinging is rather annoying. His vote on Tubby is terrible, especially with the amount of cases laid out before it. Also, hasn't posted in 3 days
Q1) With Jordan's recent flip, how do you feel about the players you said were scum with him? (Like Plum and KK)

cicero: Neutral. Behaviour towards the SB claim is subpar in my opinion, but he hasn't been able to keep up or post, so I can't develop a read
Q1) If you have some time, has your vision of SB changed?

VP Baltar: Neutral. Some kind of toned-down llama, with more decorative one-liners.
Q1) You seem convinced that SB is scum, so why are you not voting her?

SpyreX: Fairly town, fair scumhunting, his mechanic fishing is a nice touch in my opinion, since there must be at least 2 or 3 roles that can protect in some way.
Q1) What is your opinion on the Benmage and Kmd interaction? You earlier called a bus, but haven't pushed it since.

Cass: Quite scummy. 5/7 of posts are "unvote X, vote Y", hypocritical post about Jordan's post being useless.
Q1) You admitted earlier that miller lynches are uninformative, why do you want to lynch SB now?

milkshake: Town. Not a lot of contribution and the claim in his second post was so very unecessary. It's like a huge "hey, NK me!" sign. Newbish, but definitely town in my book.
Q1) Why in the name of god did you claim???

Snow_Bunny: Fairly town. Her miller claim doesn't seem like scum, more like newb-town. Which doesn't change the fact I don't want her alive in endgame, mind you.
Q1) Why did you try to divert all investigative roles to you N1? Miller with sanities is usually considered bastardly.

Benmage: Fairly scummy. The reactions to the fake-daykill are definitely not town, as is the sheer amount of decorative one liners. The conversation with RC was completely useless.
Q1) You keep saying you want to lynch BM, yet you're vote and posts claim otherwise. Are you just fooling around? (If so, bear in mind it's a nuisance.)

SocioPath: Neutral. Not enough content to make himself town, but what he did say was kinda town, thus neutral, but leaning scum.
Q1) Opinion on Sajin and Bm? You seemed interested in them earlier...

DrippingGoofball: Quite scummy. One-liners, most of which are "X is scum" or "Y is town". Cases to defend those are pretty weak too. I agree with the bussing scum likelihood.
Q1) You said DN is scum with much conviction but now he's flipped town. How much credibility do you think you deserve when all you do is say who is scum incorrectly?

Sajin: Slight town. His play is similar to what I've seen him do as town. His play is weird though...
Q1) Earlier you were defending Stark and now you're pursuing him. What happened in-between that I seem to have missed?

LlamaFluff: Slight town. Lots and lots and lots of question asking. Some more personal opinions would be nice though
Q1) Clearly, your plan to control Jordan's kill flunked. Is it still usable to catch scum?

alvins95: Very scummy, contribution is very limited and his vote on Snow_Bunny has no explanation attached to it.
Q1) Is your vote on S_B because she claimed miller? If so, what's your opinion on vigging her instead?

Kmd4390 : Fairly town, good contribution and decent scum-hunting.
Q1) You've pretty much called everyone scum at one point or another. What's your current opinion?

Plum: Slightly town, fair contribution, however two of her top scums just flipped town
Q1) You seem to be voting Tubby for wanting SB lynched. Do you believe everyone with a similar sight are scum?

Kise: Fairly scummy, the whole crap joke beginning was irritating and the pseudo-role fishing is scummy. ISO 13 is priceless
Q1) ISO 13. You'd put your life on SB flipping scum?

vollkan: Fairly town, one of the only to defend S_B, with better reasons than the people attacking her hysterically. Also nice contribution/post rate
Q1) You seem very wary of Kmd. Do you think he is scum, or just somewhat dellusional?

Rosso Carne: Town, I don't like his playstyle, I don't like his interacting, but I'm pretty certain he's town (probably the same reason as... KK I think?)
Q1) Would you be nice enough to actually give your opinion on the current situation?

stark: VI, but not for the reasons surrounding DN's "is council town?". His other posts aren't protown either. He directly refused to scumhunt when asked. I feel him more VI than scum though, I've seen the exact same behaviour from a few VIs.
Q1) Are you planning to eventually do something about your lack of pro-town post?

Kublai Khan: Neutral, he seems to want to scumhunt, but his previous experience as fake-claiming miller is driving him in a blind rage on SB
Q1) Stark is in your top 5 to lynch, so is SB (clearly). We're missing 3. Who are they?

populartajo: Very town. While he hasn't posted quite as much as plum or Kmd, he seems far more composed and reasonable in his reasoning. Also strong gut-feel.
Q1)You've countered a few cases, but your vote isn't explained (unless I missed it). What's your case on Alvinz?

KaleiÐoscøpe: Very Scummy. No post has more than 6 words, no actual content, nothing at ALL. Active lurking, pure and simple.
Q1) Why aren't you contributing more? There are multiple things that have happened and you've kept silent.

So, from most town to least town :

Town: Stark, RC, Milkshake
Very Town: Tajo
Fairly Town: SpyreX, SB, Kmd, Volkan
Slightly Town: Plum, Llama, Sajin
Neutral: Vaya, Cicero, VP, Sociopath, KK
Slightly Scum: Tubby, BM
Fairly Scum: Bm, Kise
Quite Scum: DGB, Cass
Very Scum: Kaleidoscope, Alvinz

Vote: Alvinz

dramonic · Post Post #796 (isolation #62) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:38 pm

DN was blown to smithereens already <<

dramonic · Post Post #803 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:50 am

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]lol, I'm scum because I don't contribute more.
I see the contradiction there xD[/quote]

active lurking is scummy. No complicated reasoning.

[quote="VP Baltar"]Q1) You seem convinced that SB is scum, so why are you not voting her?

I do? That's news to me.[/quote]
Just reread you in ISO. WHere the hell did I see you wanted to lynch her? XD

dramonic · Post Post #805 (isolation #64) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:00 am

I wholehearedly agree with that.

My stance on S_B: She should be killed in some way that isn't lynching.

dramonic · Post Post #821 (isolation #65) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:02 am

@KK: I've read your case agaisnt SB and I am honestly not convinced. I have never completed a game where there was a miller, but I'm pretty sure you're overworking this on one situation that worked well for you. Also, yes, just like the hugger.

@Bm: You are wrong abou the "town speaks more than scum". Often, scum will post a lot, through the use of IioA.

@PZ: Welcome to hell

@CKD: I'm voting Alvinz

I don't care if Kaleidoscope always play like that. He is still active lurking and it's a complete nuisance to the town. His behaviour is extremely antitown at the very best and I will not be pushed to believe otherwise. Players like that are the reason why the town lost in Chzo Manor.

dramonic · Post Post #826 (isolation #66) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:32 am

well, minimally compare this to dodgeball mafia.

dramonic · Post Post #827 (isolation #67) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:32 am

Also, IioA is information instead of analysis.

dramonic · Post Post #841 (isolation #68) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:12 pm

This game and dodgeball share too much of a player-list. It's hard not to cross-post @_@

@BM: That was not a pleasant read. Try to put more space, it just looks clogged to hell.

dramonic · Post Post #857 (isolation #69) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:07 am

CKD:

I am still voting Alvinz

Since you guys keep asking and not following my ISO, I'll say it again: I said DN was obv3rdparty because if he was scum he'd have buddies/qt/a scum wincon, so he'd know he's scum

fixed...

dramonic · Post Post #874 (isolation #70) » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:13 am

Unvote
Vote: Kmd

Hmph, we can lynch the lurker some other time I spose...

dramonic · Post Post #901 (isolation #71) » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:51 pm

Volkann makes love?

dramonic · Post Post #937 (isolation #72) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:35 am

That's pretty hypocritical coming from you Stark.

dramonic · Post Post #941 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:23 am

stark wrote:No, because what bothers me about Kscope is his content-less wagonhopping.

I may be contentless, but I have not wagonhopped.

Fair enough, carry on.

dramonic · Post Post #1030 (isolation #74) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:40 pm

You are rats... That's a bit ridiculous.

dramonic · Post Post #1047 (isolation #75) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:11 pm

Kmd4390 wrote:
dramonic wrote:You are rats... That's a bit ridiculous.
Why?

Well, you're an animal, it doesn't really fit in the flavour
Also, if you know who the SK is, why is it not in your best interest to tell us again?

dramonic · Post Post #1096 (isolation #76) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:53 am

I'm getting tired of Kmd editing his claim every other post <_<

Also, there's only been one murder so far, why would your flavour have seen more than that?

also, what part of Sculpt-OR makes you think all council members have er in their name?

dramonic · Post Post #1099 (isolation #77) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:57 am

So you're trying to kill your master Sajin and a guy named the rodent tamer, who arguably fits for a master.

You're saying someone named the rodent tamer can kill people when YOU are the actual rats?

Come on, if you're going to lie be creative about it

dramonic · Post Post #1157 (isolation #78) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:50 am

What's with the list?

dramonic · Post Post #1168 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:28 am

Kmd4390 wrote:Plum, the Rodent Tamer is the SK. My Role PM specifically says so.

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Populartajo,
The Rodent Tamer, With the Council
, throat slit Night 1

Err... the hell?

dramonic · Post Post #1169 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:33 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:

26.) populartajo,
The Rodent Tamer, With the Council
, throat slit Night 1

NPC,
The Giver
, Strangled Pre Game

Even though Kmd was wrong about the rodent tamer, we have a SK in the group. Flavours don't match

dramonic · Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:04 am

no he's alive, look at the player list/flavour text. He's dead, but he's alive.

dramonic · Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:41 am

well, KK's death is kinda obvious: Tajo mustve been a vig
also, stump is unlikely, we still have 23 votes for 22 players

dramonic · Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:15 am

VP Baltar wrote:Oh, and
Vote:tubby 216

While I enjoy the prospect of lynching Tubby, what's the reasoning behind your vote?

dramonic · Post Post #1232 (isolation #84) » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:08 am

SB, any explanation?

Stark, KK wanted to test the DV theory (prolly to kill him)
VP, pretty sure you know something about KK we dont. Spill it.

dramonic · Post Post #1323 (isolation #85) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:44 am

Now, when you guys are done biting each other's head off the use of cold hard logic would be nice.

PZ: we have no decent proof of the er/other split (and sculptor is town)

DGB: There are multiple reasons SB could be against claiming her new ability/whatever. If she's town its WIFOM for the scum.

VP:Following a note likely given by the scum isnt exactly the best idea. Why would KK know these things anyway?

SB: Can you confirm that what happened to you is related to the potion?

More coming when im not typing on a wii...

dramonic · Post Post #1402 (isolation #86) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:17 pm

I think at this point a miller lynch is in order. SB is being very uncooperative and just flinging suspicions all over the walls

Vote: SB

dramonic · Post Post #1413 (isolation #87) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:22 pm

Maybe they're associated to effects through Feng Shui

dramonic · Post Post #1430 (isolation #88) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:11 am

Milkshake, I think what Volkann is refering to is a variation between active and seemingly active that are called physical. You're just desperate to hit something here.

SB, are you sure of the sanity of your investigation? The potion WAS black after all :S

vollkan wrote:Gasp! All the town names so far have odd numbers of syllables whereas "The Al-chem-ist" has an even number. Spyrex is soooo scum!

Is someone suffering fro dyscalculia?

dramonic · Post Post #1433 (isolation #89) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:44 am

Well, if potions can qualify as weapon and I think they can, I don't see why not.

SC's ability absorbs a power. Brewing potions isn't a power, which would explain the failure. However this is the Dark Goma, there has to be something else.

dramonic · Post Post #1445 (isolation #90) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:43 am

I like the new Avi

I also find funny that SB just echoes with a delay the third party call.

dramonic · Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:00 am

She did, let me look it up...

dramonic · Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:01 am

1- I'm nothing more than a beggar. Some guy gave me money to give some message to some guard. After that, I was enjoying my new-earned money when the news that The Giver was killed broke out. And it seems, that, somehow, I feel guilty for that (for passing the message).

dramonic · Post Post #1469 (isolation #93) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:13 pm

Should your wide array of spamposts be underlined as well?

dramonic · Post Post #1471 (isolation #94) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:20 pm

scope hasnt fallen off the radar, even if his post count is low.

dramonic · Post Post #1477 (isolation #95) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:39 pm

If he does that he'll spend half his time using newly gained ability.

dramonic · Post Post #1481 (isolation #96) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:02 pm

pretty sure he specified it was one of each....

dramonic · Post Post #1484 (isolation #97) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:15 pm

Cuz he wasn't the lych for the day PZ.

dramonic · Post Post #1491 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:35 pm

She said it was a one-shot cop

dramonic · Post Post #1495 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:38 pm

stark wrote:
SerialClergyman wrote: I think the last couple of pages have descended into very little to be honest. I don't think there's been a single vote change or much serious scumhunting at all.
Would it be a terrible idea to consider talking about Rosso?

What is there you want to talk abut?
Open the conversation dude.

dramonic · Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:51 pm

No, SpyreX hinted heavily at targetting SB (who is female, btw) way before any pressure was applied.
You're not reading the game, you're ignoring a bunch of important things... Geez, fine, we can let SB have her investigation!

Unvote
Vote: Benmage

dramonic · Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:03 pm

Saying I'm retarted doesn't change the fact you've been botching the game through and through. If you weren't scum, you might actually care about the outcome of the game and what's happening instead of posting the same questions that have been answered already and launching highly illogical accusations.

dramonic · Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:51 pm

quotefail?

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:55 am

[quote="chamber"]
My reads from scummiest to townest:

dramonic
Papa Zito
milkshake
Sajin
SerialClergyman
Plum
stark
KaleiÐoscøpe
Kise
SocioPath
tubby216
Rosso Carne
LlamaFluff
VP Baltar
Battle Mage
Vaya
Benmage
vollkan
SpyreX
DrippingGoofball
Snow_Bunny

Exact placement of names in the middle is approximate.
[/quote]

And are you planning to provide any reasoning for this? Surprisingly, I like knowing what I'm accused of.

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:58 am

Also SpyreX, wouldn't the scribe giving paperslips and the rats investigating be considered active? Not sure your theory sticks (though it does for my role)

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:24 am

well, PZ just busted that theory bunny girl.

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:29 am

We can test that flip upon lynch with you, how bout it?

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:30 am

Options being SpyreX and who else again?

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:33 am

Actually, unless that other one is Scope or Ben, I wouldn't put much faith on me to play your little game.

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:55 am

Snow_Bunny wrote:Vollkan and chamber are others that has claimed that, iirc.

Oh, scared that my game may come up in favour of the "xr" theory?

nah, it's already been disproved by PZ. Additionally, -xr goes for any noun based on a verb <_<

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:26 am

This isn't the same setting as mafia 100 at all Bm. If I was actually playing the same there'd be something really wrong with my mind.

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:20 am

Well, he's the only reason we have for a doublevote. Has a doublevoter ever been seen as scum?

dramonic · Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:34 am

We have a vote more than the amount of players.
Everyone voted at some point yesterday, except RC.
The votecount never indicated a DV on a wagon.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:23 am

chamber wrote:Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'ed

Unvote
Vote: Chamber

I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:31 am

dramonic wrote:
chamber wrote:Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'ed

Unvote
Vote: Chamber

I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.

Additionally, unless you have some kind of killing power killing five players by yourself is ridiculous and a load of hogwash.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:42 am

While I find your mocking me pretty pointless, unless Chamber can stop playing dumb and give remotely intelligent answers I'm more than fine with his lynch.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:15 am

I agree we should let her live. If she makes it we get a confirmation. If she doesn't... maybe what blocks/kills her will end up like SpyreX.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:30 am

but that's not a bad thing milkshake.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:41 am

Yes, kill the closest to confirmed town, it's definitely optimal <_<

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:56 am

Benmage wrote:
VP Baltar wrote:Bicker bicker.

VP Baltar wrote:Bicker?
Bicker!

Bicker bicker bicker.

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:57 am

I still endorse the Bm lynch if Chamber can give a serious reason for his reads

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:03 pm

rain is calming.
I pick rain

back to my previous vote, but Chamber, you ought to avoid random jokes like that, had I had a daykill I'd have shot

Unvote
Vote: Benmage

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:59 pm

WWVPD?

dramonic · Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:13 pm

Claiming VT where everyone is a PR... That's cute.

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:49 am

RL? I forgot what that feels like...

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:49 pm

Plum, unless you can explain how "happy hoppy fuzzy bunny" is a viable rolename, your unvote is plain antitown.

Unvote
Vote: Tubby

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:53 pm

The... mod said so?

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:55 pm

Well, your claim is just plain ridiculous, yet Plum is buying it. I think lynching you and suspecting Plum's creepy behaviour is pretty normal at this point.

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:59 pm

*chokes*

When did the mod make such a claim plausible?

My rolename, along with all the outed ones, are much more serious.

Also, happy hoppy fuzzy bunny doesn't end in -xr

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:00 pm

lay off the cyanide.

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:06 pm

Hate to break it to you, but I'm not the type to trust someone just cuz the say they hold the truth.

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:10 pm

Fair enough.

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:30 pm

@_@

You guys are giving me a headache with your overeager jumping from a wagon to another and back. Unless there are something like 8 more scum, someone explain to me the town motive to be so fickle with your vote.

dramonic · Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:53 pm

As if we havent already heard SpyreX's role <<

dramonic · Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:34 am

@Elmo: Your predecessor was completely useless. However, due to votecount shenanigan, it has been established you have a decent chance of being a DV. Therefore you are a slight source of controversy.

I hate the bunny claim, but when Plum and Socio and Benmage and Tubby all could be possible scum, the logical thing is to get on the bigger wagon

Unvote
Vote: benmage

dramonic · Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:39 pm

I'd still like to know why Chamber has such an interest in lynching me. When I asked earlier he wouldn't answer either.

dramonic · Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:39 pm

I could go with an active-lurker lynch. I still think Benmage needs to go down, but the tides seems to be going in favour of KS.

Unvote
Vote: Kaleidoscope

This should help.

dramonic · Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:07 pm

We've given more than enough claims to the scum already if you want my opinion.

dramonic · Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:18 am

If you guys are patient enough, I'd like Elmo to vote someone before the hammer drops (he can hammer if he so wishes)
Tired of the DV wifom.

dramonic · Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:26 am

Thanks for ignoring me completely -_-;

dramonic · Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:07 pm

LlamaFluff wrote:Dear SC,

Please stop treestumping players I think are town

Love,

Llama

But SpyreX wasn't treestumped yesterday. His vote was on the votecount and the lynch occured at 12 like what was written.

dramonic · Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:20 pm

The Dead:

NPC,
The Giver
, Strangled Pre Game

25.) Kublai Khan,
The Scribe, With the Converters,
Devoured by many tiny little mouths Night 1

7.) SpyreX, ????, ????, Died of natural causes Night 1

26.) populartajo,
The Rodent Tamer, With the Council
, Throat slit Night 1

22.) vollkan,
The Consumer, With the Council
, Throat slit Night 2

15.) DrippingGoofball,
The Cloner, With the Council
, Strangled Night 2

6.) VP Baltar, ????, ????, Died of natural causes Night 2

I just noticed we have a strangler who failed night 1. Scum or third-party, judging from the fact he killed the giver.

dramonic · Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:18 pm

So becoming "dead" would be a good thing? That sounds somewhat implausible. On a whole different matter, you are done serving any purpose.

@Milkshake: Your... sanity-fixing ability. Is it active or passive? Furthermore, did you heal Kise?

dramonic · Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:21 pm

Plum has gone cuckoo

@Kise, did you target Milkshake N1?

dramonic · Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:53 am

Hello Elmo.

Are you planning to eventually vote and come clean, or will you keep WIFOMing until we decide to lynch you?

dramonic · Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:14 am

Elmo wrote: dramonic: What do you mean, come clean? I'll vote someone if people especially want me to, but why would you want to lynch me? (It'd be rather hard to get through a game without voting anyone.)

I'm well aware of that, but without voting you were just creating WIFOM and when people don't cooperate with the town we lynch em.

That's been cleared now though. Thank you for your cooperation.

@SB: unless you have another power who will graciously end up being useless, you don't serve any purpose barring WIFOM now.

Vote: SB

dramonic · Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:59 am

well, personally I believe giving scum a double-vote is extremely balance breaking.

Now where is that damn milkshake?

dramonic · Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:12 am

Agreed, but that doesn't mean until further notice we shouldn't keep a DVer alive. We have nothing showing us the mafia team is particularely weak and would require a double vote to be back in the game, so...

dramonic · Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:47 pm

you may be the causer of weep, but at this rate Elmo is going to make you cry

dramonic · Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:05 pm

You could, but optimally not.

Milkshake, is your ability targetting or reaction

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:01 am

Kise, can you confirm this?

In the meantime

Vote: Milkshake

I've got good reasons.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:03 am

Then again, the opposite could have occured...

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:03 am

Kise wrote:Although I have woken up these past 2 mornings and got the feeling that someone has been spooning with me.. from behind

*Grope grope*

The reason I ask these questions is because I have fairly strong reasons to believe Milk is responsible for hanging people.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:08 am

Stuff related to my role.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:09 am

you ought to read the whole thread before responding to old votes.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:44 am

The giver has been strangled too. Tajo had his throat slit, just like DGB

and I am not active lurking =_=

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:20 am

SpyreX wrote:Hold up.

Dra, did you just imply role knowledge that would make SB scum?

Ohh snap rolefishing.

1. Not SB, Milk

2. It's not rolefishing, he "claimed" on like, page 2.

The reason I suspect Milk is directly connected to my role. I'd have expected Kise to be informed of his cured sanity, therefore I do not believe Milk's claim on page 2 and I'm pretty sure he's our strangler.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:05 pm

I don't mind claiming if more than just you ask me to.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:51 pm

Allright

I am the bubble blower, aligned with the council.
My power type is active
Having been born close to the Dark Goma due to my family's vast wealth, I have been cherished by a good majority of the population. However, unlike some of the other aristocrats who have gone corrupt with power, I have always been a down-to-earth fellow. It is my belief that the Dark Goma should be shared peacefully, but the methods used by the converter revolt me, as I am a non-violent.

My power is to create human-sized bubbles, enough to encase someone completely. These bubbles are tough enough to withstand outside assault and therefore the person inside cannot be harmed. It is also jail-like, as the person I lock in cannot escape until dawn, preventing them from doing harm.

Night 1 I jailkept Milkshake because i found his claim very dubious.

During day 1 I noticed no one had been hung, so I decided to jailkeep Plum Night 2 to see if SP had been the one to block the kills.

The strangle went through though.

I suspect Milkshake strongly, and the fact Kise didn,t receive any PM from the mod this morning increases my suspicion.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:59 pm

My targets cant be targetted, I asked the mod for clarification day 1.
I receive no message about my ability succeeding.

Also, unless you believe that the giver was killed by third party, Milk is scum.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:03 pm

I answered. Which incidentally explains how your action on tubby worked even though I tried to hide.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:15 pm

the conspiracy theory is bad Milk, I mean, look at your wagon, unless you think MORE than the complete converter team are on your ass you're just flailing.

THe fact you never get any response about anything just makes you scummier. If you affect people, you're bound to have something happen. Likewise, if you had targetted Kise like you said you did, he'd be sane by now.

You're scum who've been caught.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:21 pm

I dont recall saying you're a serial killer.

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:28 pm

Plans can only backfire if they are Milkshake

There is a small, weak chance that you'll flip town. (If for example, the strangler targetted you Night 1). I'm aware of that.

However, the odds are agaisnt you, and when someone has claimed insanity and you don't believe them you're basically more expandable than even SB.

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:32 am

dramonic wrote:I answered. Which incidentally explains how your action on tubby worked even though I tried to hide.

Slight typo. This was an answer to Plum & Partner

I answered. Which incidentally explains how your (Plum&Partner) action on tubby worked even though

he

tried to hide

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:39 am

Plum wrote:Tubby hides behind BM (Battle Mage or Benmage???)

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:30 am

Papa Zito wrote:One other thing. Dramonic, you're saying you jailed milk, and there was no mafia kill. My question to you - why didn't you jail him again to test your theory, and perhaps prevent another kill?

Because Plum was also RBed. I found her more suspicious than Milk. Additionally, if she was telling the truth, I protected her from a potential kill so that her partner wouldn,t have to reveal himself if Plum really is what she claims to be.

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:57 am

SpyreX wrote: @Dram:

Why, WHY, didn't you bring this out
yesterday
when the whole tubby-milk-plum-sociopath business was going on?

I couldnt be sure yet who of the two (Plum & Milkshake) was more likely to be the strangler. Also, It could have just been a different mafia flavour (night 1 you slit, night 2 you gore, night 3 you choke, yadda yadda yadda)

and claiming a protective role is rarely optimal if you're not convinced of your read.

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:53 am

Elmo wrote: Anyone: Why are we thinking SK as opposed to vig?

unless you think the vig strangled the giver, I doubt that's an option.

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:11 pm

Yeah, I'd like to know too. It seems I've garnered your attention. Can I get a case to defend against?

dramonic · Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:27 am

Well, if you guys are unwilling to follow through with the Milkshake I don't mind. But until I see someone get strangled with Milk disabled, he's my top suspect.

dramonic · Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:24 am

SpyreX wrote:
dramonic wrote: Well, if you guys are unwilling to follow through with the Milkshake I don't mind. But until I see someone get strangled with Milk disabled, he's my top suspect.
Wait, what? If you think Milk is scum, say so. Explain why - don't just shrug ones shoulders and go "welp".

Action outcomes. It's not the best, but the odds aren't in favour of Milk, so he has a choice spot on my scum list. I can think of many ways that he could be confirmed as scum with an extra night, so I'll let the WIFOM rest for now.

dramonic · Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:39 pm

I'll repeat what I said earlier: My jk targets are untargettable. Tubby likely failed night 1.

dramonic · Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:49 am

Milkshake
Milkshake
and say, milkshake

and SB
And Chamber

dramonic · Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:47 pm

VP Baltar wrote:I would think the people with the crappier powers would be more likely to be the converters, don't you SP?

Useless =/= Crappy

While yes, Chamber's ability seems completely useless, it's still grand. I mean, he controls the freaking weather!

dramonic · Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:49 pm

I just love the feel of caseless tunneling in the evening.

dramonic · Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:09 am

VP Baltar wrote: Stark is still scummy in my eyes for playing around in the scenery, but Sajin has done absolutely nothing today in terms of scumhunting and simply deserves to die for it.

Just today? XP

dramonic · Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:09 pm

VP, I can understand the huge list is made to take the town's pulse and all, but I hope you're not planning to direct the lynches with that. I mean, there are at the very least 2 factions who want the town dead, it's easily tampered with.

dramonic · Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:10 pm

Not to mention it's likely to give a complete list of who to kill and who's lynch to push to the scum

dramonic · Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:23 pm

Battle Mage I presume?

dramonic · Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:26 pm

Oh!

That game.
That wall.

That kitty!

dramonic · Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:33 pm

Last time he made an actual LoS was on page 20 =_=;

dramonic · Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:59 am

Battle Mage wrote:
dramonic wrote:Last time he made an actual LoS was on page 20 =_=;
Then tell me, when was the last time i made an LoS anywhere else on site?

I'm only in 3 games atm, and the other 2 are moving reasonably SLOWLY. Here, we had a spell of several pages per day, and when you lose touch in a mafia game which isnt slowing down, it isnt easy to catch up.

BM

I'm in 9 games and I still manage to keep up <<

dramonic · Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:18 am

His arguement is terrible though. If his two other games are going real slow he ought to focus on the one that's moving fast =_=

dramonic · Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:24 pm

Plum wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Ok, based on my LoS, and subsequent flips and comments, i'd say my 3rd suspect is Plum. KK flipping Mafia reflects badly on her, and my case on Sajin is undermined by KMD flipping non-Mafia. That said, her claim could get her out of trouble. If she and Vaya need to be tested, Plum should go first. Then again, meta-wise, im less sure.

Eh, a fullclaim will resolve this either way.

BM
Is that a call for a fullclaim, my friend?

DRAMONIC: Yesterday everyone put Milk in the 'prob Town if Tubby is telling the truth due to the Hider claim' bin. You KNEW that Milk was untargetable Night 1 and thus that Tubby's Hide attempt proved nothing about Milk's alignment. WHY did you not speak up about this???

Because yesterday I was quite suspicious of YOU plum. SO I wasnt really buying the namecop mason daytalk claim.

dramonic · Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:37 pm

one of them does the action at night, but they both receive the result.

At least that's what I understand...

dramonic · Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:46 am

May I be told why I'm number one on your lynch list Elmo?

dramonic · Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:04 am

So... I read you in ISO PZ and nowhere in the game you stated having any case on me. You just suddenly pop up yelling you'll eat a pony and buy everyone a hat if I'm not scum, but you haven't given any reason for your read on me.

Unless your only reason is gut.

You asked me one question, why I didn't block Milk twice. I answered. Since then you want me dead.

Elmo wrote:
dramonic wrote:May I be told why I'm number one on your lynch list Elmo?
I'm sheeping Zito. Direct all enquires to him!

Do you even have a townread on PZ?

dramonic · Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:28 am

That presentation is somewhat confusing. For example, VP and Vaya are fairly low, but more people want them dead that Llama or SP

dramonic · Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:39 am

Considering

Sajin has 1-4-2
Milk has 4-1-4

Why are the votes piling on Sajin? I agree he deserves to be lynched, but I don't think he should be prioritized...

dramonic · Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:44 am

On a completely unrelated matter:

Chamber I noticed you were pretty pro-lynching me yesterday, yet you listened to my demand yesterday and made it rain. I'm curious as of why you'd go along with what your ex no.1 lynch says.

dramonic · Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:14 pm

Because it was unimportant at the time? I don't find him as you do, clearly, and considering you kinda confirmed him, I think we had enough outed PRs already without adding myself to the gang.

@VP: Not really, I've been pro-Milk lynch the whole day, why would I change my mind when the built list shows a preference for him over Sajin?

@BM: If you wanna lynch me quit tunneling and start building a case.

dramonic · Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:15 pm

@SpyreX: You want me dead too? That's new.
@PZ: stop tunneling, start case building

Unvote
Vote: Sajin

For a son of the giver the rats sure hate you <_<

Kmd4390 wrote: I am the rats. Special power type thing (as in not active/passive). Self-aligned. Flavor is that I lived in the sewers,
was Sajin's slave
, [...]

dramonic · Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:55 pm

You're a strangler, why would they want to be?

dramonic · Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:06 pm

Vaya and Plum share a link. At night, one of them can Investigate. Vaya did night one, plum did night two (and got blocked by me)

dramonic · Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:12 pm

milkshake wrote:
You're a strangler, why would they want to be?
First, I've already talked about how silly your idea that I'm "The Strangler" is.

Second, this has nothing to do with this game but I find it totally ridiculous that so many people on this website can't seem to play mafia without acting like jerks... I have alot more to say about the matter but obviously this isn't the place!! Suffice to say: Grrrrr. ><

Erm, you do know I'm joking about you not deserving to be nice to?y

dramonic · Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:17 pm

Not sure how that relates to anything...

dramonic · Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:50 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Sample PM:

Power Type:
Active, Passive, Special, or...???

Someone is taking the sample role PM too literally

dramonic · Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:34 am

You've been lurking hard and your claim is dubious. The fact the Giver has an ambiguous sexuality doesnt change either of those facts.

dramonic · Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:35 pm

I think he's trying to suggest the opposite <<