The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)


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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:23 am

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SpyreX wrote:HAHAH, I like how you knew it was you.

Its really simple and I'm honestly a little angry at myself (and thus you ALL) for not following it through. -er is NOT a function of alignment. It is a function of ability type.

-er, being added to verbs as we've seen denotes active abilities. Thus, players with -er endings will have active abilities and those without (such as myself) do not.

Now, what this means is that SC has the ability to duplicate -er's. Now, the only obvious unclaimed er (unless I've missed claims which could be true) is Papa Zito.

Further, with this many power roles I think the chances are slim that we do NOT have a watcher-type role. Thus, I would propose: SC touches Zito. Watcher watches SC. Doc protects Zito. If anyone is seen going to SC they are scum and die. If Zito doesn't give SC an ability he is scum and dies.

Now, the only major downfall is the fact I think Zito and SC are town and thus I don't expect any of the above to happen.
Fail. My ability is listed as passive and my role name ends in -er.

I'm starting to think that all people that strongly debate against the -xr theory is because they are afraid that will blow away their cover. Being 3rd party or scum, I really believe it's a good hint. Probably not enough to warrant a lynch, but it adds to a case.

I'd also like to know the reasons behind Chamber's list.

Oh, and yes, I believe DGB is scummy. I stated my reasons before. However, I'm starting to seeing Ben as really erratic.
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:24 am

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well, PZ just busted that theory bunny girl.
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:27 am

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Snow_Bunny wrote:I'm starting to think that all people that strongly debate against the -xr theory is because they are afraid that will blow away their cover. Being 3rd party or scum, I really believe it's a good hint. Probably not enough to warrant a lynch, but it adds to a case.

I'd also like to know the reasons behind Chamber's list.

Oh, and yes, I believe DGB is scummy. I stated my reasons before. However, I'm starting to seeing Ben as really erratic.
Holy crap. I don't think you could possibly play the follower more.

Passive ability? Passive like "anyone who targets you will get turned into a freaky zombie"?
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:28 am

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I still believe that. That the leader ends with "er" doesn't mean all other followers will. Unless proven with a flip upon lynch, I'll still believe that.
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:29 am

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We can test that flip upon lynch with you, how bout it?
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:29 am

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Papa Zito wrote:
Snow_Bunny wrote:I'm starting to think that all people that strongly debate against the -xr theory is because they are afraid that will blow away their cover. Being 3rd party or scum, I really believe it's a good hint. Probably not enough to warrant a lynch, but it adds to a case.

I'd also like to know the reasons behind Chamber's list.

Oh, and yes, I believe DGB is scummy. I stated my reasons before. However, I'm starting to seeing Ben as really erratic.
Holy crap. I don't think you could possibly play the follower more.

Passive ability? Passive like "anyone who targets you will get turned into a freaky zombie"?
Passive as in "you turn apples to oranges. And, oh go figure! You'll show up as a converter upon investigation!"
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:30 am

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dramonic wrote:We can test that flip upon lynch with you, how bout it?
Go ahead. One condition, though. You'll have to lynch at least another player that has claimed his name doesn't end in "xr". Deal?
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:30 am

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Options being SpyreX and who else again?
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:33 am

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Actually, unless that other one is Scope or Ben, I wouldn't put much faith on me to play your little game.
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:38 am

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Vollkan and chamber are others that has claimed that, iirc.

Oh, scared that my game may come up in favour of the "xr" theory?
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:47 am

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We need another bomb.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:52 am

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Is it possible that a 3rd party Spyrex might have a win condition like "You win once all of your potions have been tested"?

Also, Spyrex, what is your power that was given to you by the Goma?
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:55 am

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Snow_Bunny wrote:Vollkan and chamber are others that has claimed that, iirc.

Oh, scared that my game may come up in favour of the "xr" theory?
nah, it's already been disproved by PZ. Additionally, -xr goes for any noun based on a verb <_<
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:08 am

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@Mod: Did alvinz95 pick up his prod?
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:47 am

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VP Baltar wrote:
benmage wrote:It wasnt and end all amazing point, no need to look further string him up now. I simply called his flavor odd. Its my opinion.
So you call it a bad point, but you think he should be strung up for it?
Its not a bad point, just a minor one. Thats why i called it the icing on the cake. Call it the hay that broke the camel's back.
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benmage wrote:SpryeX saying hes town too wearing a red shirt, red hat. Its not the biggest thing, but nor is it my focal point. Its a side issue that I would like to see resolved.
Really? Seemed to me that the flavor and pm stuff seemed to be a lot of what you were arguing toward. What is your main reason for finding spyrex scummy if not that?
Says i've been arguing it a lot because people keep nitpicking at it. But i never called it the strongest point, but rather merely something of speculation I would like to see played out. The focal point which makes me think SpryeX may have gone a bit creative in his claim(which I've seen him do)...is because he first says he has no power type, and then references the word 'special'(makes me thing he might've been making some things up as he went).
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BAD NEWS
curiouskarmadog wrote:A group called The Converters (named after its leader) was formed and became the biggest threat to Surico and The Council.
So the leader is The Converter.

Convert
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:( No more -xr=town theory.
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chamber wrote:My reads from scummiest to townest:

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lolwut? Go read the game again.

So did I read earlier that a Scope wagon could happen? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Actually by dramonics own little statement gave me pause. At first the whole game I thought him town. Then in a little exchange between me and him where he votes me because I had a bit of a lackadaisical weekend he calls me out for being scum. I figured scum are always the most careful and are always "tip-toeing/walking on egg shells" and so my actions were clearly lazy town. He didnt understand this rational and to be frank a game I just played with him that ended with him being town he had a more removed approach than he does in this game. Maybe I think coasting as scum is a good move, and he thinks activity as scum(which is what hes doing this game) is a good move.

So I actually have some suspicions on him.
dramonic wrote:Options being SpyreX and who else again?
Though I'm less inclined to believe the theory now. DGB is another good one to try it on.
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He was replaced I believe by chamber.

RC needs a prod?

I'd vote Scope.
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:48 am

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Oh yeah SpryeX, you keep saying how you want to vote the "BM's" pretty sure I asked why, but I don't recall an answer....soooo Y?
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:52 am

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Benmage wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:
@Mod: Did alvinz95 pick up his prod?
He was replaced I believe by chamber.
Woops, so he was. I didn't look back far enough.
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:58 am

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@Zito:

The idea was you've been pushing the "er" theory so strongly that if you weren't an er role (and thus based on my idea not an active) then this has been scum smoke and mirrors.

And so far that only piece that doesn't match that is the "miller" with a cop investigation?

Guess I was wrong.

In saying SB should get another day. ZING.

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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:12 am

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SpryeX
what BM's suspicions did/do you have?
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:23 am

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Well, BM's whole posturing with this early on and subsequent vanishing act are truly, madly, deeply bothersome.

You, on the other hand, haven't vanished but aside from your volkan-fight haven't really offered anything resembling reasons for voting me.

Which, actually goes for most of those votes I asked for rationales about.
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:26 am

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This isn't the same setting as mafia 100 at all Bm. If I was actually playing the same there'd be something really wrong with my mind.
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:36 am

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Official Vote Count (Page 63, Day 2)


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-7 (DrippingGoofball, Papa Zito, SerialClergyman, milkshake, SocioPath, KaleiÐoscøpe, SpyreX)
Benmage -3 (vollkan, dramonic, VP Baltar)
DrippingGoofball -2 (tubby216, Snow_Bunny)
Spyrex -1 (Battle Mage)
tubby216 -1 (LlamaFluff)
stark -1 (Sajin)
milkshake -1 (Plum)
dramonic -1 (chamber)

Not Voting:
Rosso Carne, Kise, Vaya, stark, Benmage

Note: Deadline will be at the earliest, 10/30 3:45 PM EST, with 23 whole votes available, it takes 12 to lynch.

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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:47 am

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BM is scum.

I think SB got a vig kill, not an investigation. She's setting up the ground work to use it on me.

That's just what my spidey sense is telling me. You can take it or leave it.
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:50 am

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I think SB got a vig kill, not an investigation. She's setting up the ground work to use it on me.

That's just what my spidey sense is telling me. You can take it or leave it.
Heh, it could very well be.

One thing is certain: A cop investigation is an easy thing to fake. A vig kill is not!
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:11 am

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She has to know that a claimed miller with a claimed vig kill wouldn't fly.

If she's a scum claiming miller with a vig kill, claiming it to be a cop investigation is the logical play (not that SB is displaying any evidence of logic, that's the flaw in my argument). She can say her investigation target died. Oops!
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