The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[Benmage]

(who is not paying attention now, Mr. Criticizer!)

I might've missed this (quote it?). But the last 3ish pages have been dominated by you and me.

[dramonic]

Not sure how that relates to anything...

[Sajin]

Plum's post-Iso 92

Scum now know that they can block me, but if my partner stays secret that player can perform the action instead with less risk of getting blocked (and yes, there was a good reason that even though I was exposed yesterday we decided that I should took the action; but keeping my partner secret may still be beneficial for the reason listed above in the future).

Vaya confirmed later I believe. They also claimed they BOTH receive the result.

[milkshake]

Erm, you do know I'm joking about you not deserving to be nice to?y

A) It's hard to tell sometimes on a forum (other times is isn't but, yeah...).
B) Really it has nothing to do with this game. People here are pretty awesome. ^^ It's just something that's been bothering me. Among other things, "scum" is not an insult but sometimes I think people take it as one. I should let off some steam on the non-game boards but I haven't posted there at all yet which makes me hesitant to start!

Vaya confirmed later I believe. They also claimed they BOTH receive the result.

Not sure if this is relevant, but by the way I do get Plum's hesitance to out her partner, but even with both of them in the open I don't think any scum are going to waste a roleblocking with only a 50% chance of hitting anything.

[Snow_Bunny]

Wow, 3 pages in half a day.

Ok, regarding Sajin, there's something I don't understand from his claim about targeting me and my now-gone ability. Why didn't he say anything when I claimed that and Spyrex claimed that he gave me a potion?

I'm buying his claim right now. The confusion about his parent's gender (lol) confirms it to me. However, that doesn't confirm alignment. In fact, it's quite possible the son tried to kill his father/mother, or something like that.

[milkshake]

Ok, regarding Sajin, there's something I don't understand from his claim about targeting me and my now-gone ability. Why didn't he say anything when I claimed that and Spyrex claimed that he gave me a potion?

If this is part of what you don't understand: Saijin had/has (according to his claim) no way of knowing if his ability gave a one-shop cop, anything of the sort, or anything completely different. So I'm guessing he didn't have a problem with you are SpyreX's interaction. Also (unlike you, me, and a surprising number of people) he hadn't claimed and probably was hoping to keep it that way.

[milkshake]

"you are SpyreX's interaction"
"your

and

SpyreX's interaction"
Must. learn. to. type!

[Sajin]

Wow, 3 pages in half a day.

Ok, regarding Sajin, there's something I don't understand from his claim about targeting me and my now-gone ability. Why didn't he say anything when I claimed that and Spyrex claimed that he gave me a potion?

I'm buying his claim right now. The confusion about his parent's gender (lol) confirms it to me. However, that doesn't confirm alignment. In fact, it's quite possible the son tried to kill his father/mother, or something like that.

Because although flavor wise it makes a ton of sense to me....its the same reason I did not claim when Spyrex claimed his potion of death reflected back onto him: I am ultimately unsure of what my ability does. Could I have reflected his potion back onto him? At the time I thought it was quite possible. Then the next day when things changed and SC claimed to have been the cause of the death scene and spyrex figured he caused the 1 shot- was I supposed to claim then?

No. All I could do is express belief in snowbunny that she really did receive the 1 shot. And while that was not assured it seemed a likely interaction.

Not to mention mass claiming is stupid... from both a strategical and fun point of view.

[stark]

Sajin, if we're not going to lynch you today, and at this point, I'm really not feeling it, who would you suggest as an alternative?

[Benmage]

We need a few people to weigh in. Namely Kise, Elmo, SP, and SC. Even though SP commented on my actions he has a wasted vote on tubby and needs to comment on his feelings on Sajin...all of these people need to comment on Sajin sentiment.

[chamber]

Why is Sajin still alive?

[Battle Mage]

The mod did clarify male, then in a later PM clarified female and admitted to typos. Father is not mentioned in my PM that is my paraphrasing which I assumed to be male. I do not see anyone believing this until I flip though.

Whatever, I am The Unknown. My ability type is listed as ???. I targeted Snowbunny and Benmage as claimed. The flavor behind my role is not very strong at all so I added to it. I really do not know what my ability does. In fact it probably does nothing and I am a vanilla of the setup. Which makes sense with KMD wanting to lynch me and kill Benmage. Makes me believe Benmage more as I strongly believe KMD was a multiple part lyncher.

New suspects:

Battlemage is trying to draw a false 1v1 between myself and spyrex. That is extremely scummy. Also he picked up participation now that he was called out on it.

OMGUS, but what more could i expect? I think you're more worried that i'm the only one who has pointed out that Ben might be your buddy.
And ftr, i've "picked up participation" because the game slowed down for a while, and because im now down to 2 games, i had the time to read up a bit.

VP is likely town this game. SC is depending on what he does with VP's ability. Watch him for it. Also SC I think you should steal BM's ability.

*facepalm*

BM

[Battle Mage]

yep, i've caught up. Hammer away folks!

BM

[curiouskarmadog]

Vote Count (Page 107, Day 3)

Sajin

-9 (Benmage, SpyreX, chamber, VP Baltar, Snow_Bunny, Battle Mage, Vaya, Plum, dramonic)
dramonic -3 (Papa Zito, Elmo)
milkshake -1 (tubby216)
Papa Zito -1 (LlamaFluff)
tubby216 -1 (SocioPath)
Benmage -1 (Kise)
Snow_Bunny -1 (milkshake)

Not Voting:

SerialClergyman, Sajin, stark

Note:

Deadline will be at the earliest 11/14 at 5:00 PM EST. With 20 whole votes available, it takes 11 to lynch.

[Battle Mage]

The mod did clarify male, then in a later PM clarified female and admitted to typos. Father is not mentioned in my PM that is my paraphrasing which I assumed to be male. I do not see anyone believing this until I flip though.

Whatever, I am The Unknown. My ability type is listed as ???.

Only 3 question marks. Lol

BM

[dramonic]

Sample PM:

Power Type:

Active, Passive, Special, or...???

Someone is taking the sample role PM too literally

[Battle Mage]

rofl

BM

[Papa Zito]

So Kise, Sajin was on your suspect list - how do you feel now?

[Sajin]

Sample PM:

Power Type:

Active, Passive, Special, or...???

Someone is taking the sample role PM too literally

Yet this is exactly what my PM states. ??? type. Role name The Unknown.

I could of made a stronger claim that was not so weird. As it was I did not claim these until I felt like I was to be quick lynched. So I posted the truth so that everyone else could figure it out as best as they are able when I am dead. If I was mafia or 3rd party I would be claiming that my role was affected by weather or insane cop or even a protective role. I am totally aware that these aspects are awkward at best. I left them out before for a reason.

I would like to have the people that are voting me for the gender thing to at least acknowledge both the the mods clarifications before I am ultimately lynched. And then for them to post why they are still voting me. Will make it easier to find the scum on my wagon. I really hate case less votes whether they are on me or someone else. A case less vote only helps scum. This applies to Vaya, Plum, dramonic VP, chamber and Spyrex.


Also I would like to point out that BM called my role BS before I claimed, called it BS after I claimed and somewhere in the middle insisted I was CCing Spyrex so that he could push Spyrex tomorrow. This implies that he knows what I will flip.

Vote: BattleMage

[dramonic]

You've been lurking hard and your claim is dubious. The fact the Giver has an ambiguous sexuality doesnt change either of those facts.

[SocioPath]

We need a few people to weigh in. Namely Kise, Elmo, SP, and SC. Even though SP commented on my actions he has a wasted vote on tubby and needs to comment on his feelings on Sajin...all of these people need to comment on Sajin sentiment.

I was ready to auto-lynch Sajin for such an insane slip-up, but the mod himself came in and clarified that Sajin wasn't necessarily lying with several parts.
Not to say that clears him, but...

Bm has came out of the discussion looking the worst though for hypocritical stances and abrasive nature where it doesn't make sense to have, whether its fabricated or Bm has just lost his mind, both aren't good outcomes. Also not townie outcomes.

[Benmage]

Me Bm?

[SocioPath]

Me Bm?

As opposed to BM.

[Kise]

I wouldn't believe a word a lyncher tells me, Ben.

Mod PMed me back- The giver is indeed a male.

Mod Note: The mod might or might not have problems with The Giver's gender. The Giver should be a female. The Mod might or might not have described the Giver has a male/female in PMs. Bottom line: The Giver's sex is purely flavor.

You should have kept with the PM-typo excuse.

Ho shit, son!

Now I'm conflicted. Sajin is obviously lying (lol blown gambit) Dramonic is scum though. What to do what to do.

Vote him.

And Kise

I liked the 30 minute response..but now you've disappeared again.

Thanks for bolding this; as if I wouldn't have caught it otherwise I'm lurking everywhere. My PPD used to be 14 -- I was #2 every month, right beneath zwet. School has gotten the best of me.

So Kise, Sajin was on your suspect list - how do you feel now?

Same. He hasn't been playing town at all in my eyes. Him or chamber for today's lynch. I say him.

Unvote; Vote: Sajin

[Kise]

Now that I check, my PPD is still pretty decent! I bet KMD is #2 now though.