Open 119 - Masons and Mafia (GAME OVER) before 747

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:54 am

First vote!

Vote: Sironigous

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:42 am

Yayzowr!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:47 am

You! You dare show your face here.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:49 am

^Anti-meta early weak scumtell

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:51 am

Notice it was a joke.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:05 am

Sironigous is scum. I can feel it in my veins.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:57 am

Why MSN?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:24 am

Interesting. One down, three to go. I don't like this bandwagon that sprung up on me all of the sudden.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:57 am

I would call it an opportunistic vote, rokovoj.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #44 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:41 am

Did you notice it only takes six to lynch?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:01 am

Exactly. So you recognize it was a scummy opportunistic vote. Notice that he hasn't unvoted yet.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #49 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:13 am

You're implying it.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #51 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:21 am

rokovoj wrote:lol, it would take three more people to hop on to lynch you.

I've played with two of the players in this game, and I had nothing to say about ThaCoolness, so I voted for you. Not random, but completely arbitrary.

I would call you a tad panicky, zwetschenwasser.

You admit it would only take three more people to lynch me.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #53 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:10 am

It is scummy. Especially since you're voting me for no reason.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #56 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:29 am

Because I'm not an opportunistic OMGUSer. And it's too early in Day 1, especially since everyone's just sitting around watching the fist fight.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #58 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:13 am

I already did.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #60 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:34 am

Up there.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #62 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:38 am

That works.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #72 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:11 pm

OMG! Sironigous doesn't even recognize IH has a case on me, and says that voting someone at all is bad? Obvscum.

Confirm Vote: Sironigous

IH, I did find that third vote opportunistic. And I don't like that Rok hasn't unvoted for absolutely no reason.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #75 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:26 pm

My sir vote was serious. I already explained three times why your vote was scummy. It was the third vote on me, and it was opportunistic. And now you conveniently got me on a platter waiting for three others to hop on my wagon and kill me, as it's likely that as long as you get at least one townie, the other two of you scum can jump on and slice and dice me. Did you not remember we have three scum alive?

Vote Count #3

IH - 2 (ThaCoolness, Sironigous)
MadCrawdad - 1 (nicoliosgotpolio)
Megatheory - 1 (Crazy)
Sironigous - 1 (zwetschenwasser)
ThaCoolness - 1 (dejkha)
zwetschenwasser - 4 (MadCrawdad, Jazzmyn, rokovoj, IH)

Not Voting: Megatheory

6 to lynch and 4 to lynch at deadline.
Deadline is March 8.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #78 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:26 pm

Uh, huh. You say voting is bad, and then contradict it. Your last post makes no sense, and you pretend you didn't realize that IH had a case on me. It's called pressure, Sironigous, something that you need more off to squeeze some truth out of you.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #80 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:29 pm

Sironigous wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:OMG! Sironigous doesn't even recognize IH has a case on me, and says that voting someone at all is bad? Obvscum.
Confirm Vote: Sironigous

IH, I did find that third vote opportunistic. And I don't like that Rok hasn't unvoted for absolutely no reason.
IH has a case on you?

From what I understand, IH completely destroyed his Nico case to vote for you. If the third vote is opportunistic, as you state, wouldn't the next vote be doubly (and more) opportunistic?

Where do I say voting someone is bad?

Voting to L-2 is bad with 3 mafia out there.

Um... Am I missing something obvious, or is your last sentence a figment of my imagination?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #82 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:48 pm

Yes, I do. Rok's vote was opportunistic because of his random-vote of me that he now refuses to take off because of contrived reasons. IH's vote is a pressure vote, intended for me to answer his questions about my suspicion of Rok, while not forcing me into a position any scum could take advantage of and quicklynch. His vote=scumhunting, Rok=opportunistic scumminess. And now you're throwing random attacks at me in a flailing attempt to make me forget that you ignored my last post talking about the aforementioned pressure. It is clearly not a contradiction, scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #84 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:01 pm

You just said I'm contradicting myself, and once again you refused to pay attention to my post. Yes, it's called pressure, and it works all the time, and is not opportunism or a scumtell. How am I confusing you? You voted IH for scummy reasons, and when I call you out on them you say I'm confusing you? It doesn't help your position when I call attention to the Freudian slip I see at the end of your post.

Sironigous: "Hi, my scumpartner was hohum!"

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #87 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:14 pm

IH HAD A CASE ON ME. IT WAS ALL RIGHT FOR HIM TO VOTE ME.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #89 (isolation #25) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:17 pm

Freudian slip. He's saying goodbye to his scum partner.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #93 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:21 pm

OMG!!! Then he pretends he doesn't know what we're talking about. LYNCH THIS SCUM NOW!!! BTW, all you scum out there, if you kill me now, you'll be incriminating your buddy Sironigous. I don't suggest even attempting to suicide yourselves on my townie hide, if you want Sir alive.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #95 (isolation #27) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:23 pm

Exactly.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #100 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:36 pm

Let's look at this baby:

OMG!!!

Chatspeak for surprise. Unless I'm wrong about that expression too..

Useless information, with no point

Then he pretends he doesn't know what we're talking about.

Talking about hohum mafia or expression?

He continues to pretend he doesn't know that it's about hohum

LYNCH THIS SCUM NOW!!!

I think he wants the other people to lynch me and get off his bandwagon. *shrug*

He ignores what I said about IH's case being valid and instead of defending himself goes off in another direction intending to incriminate me

BTW, all you scum out there, if you kill me now, you'll be incriminating your buddy Sironigous.

wait.. How can scum kill YOU. And how does that incriminate me if they kill you

If scum kill me, the town will realize that they killed me/ committed suicide for attacking a townie instead of a mason right when you were getting the most pressure from a protown guy. Then they'll lynch you in two and a half seconds

I don't suggest even attempting to suicide yourselves on my townie hide, if you want Sir alive.

Why would they suicide? That's not necessarily smart... Shouldn't they just daykill each other then if they wanted to? And of course, if the others are going to "LYNCH THIS SCUM NOW" I won't be alive.

And he pretends that he hasn't read the rules of the game

Is it clear enough how much Sir is scum?

Vote Count #4

IH - 2 (ThaCoolness, Sironigous)
MadCrawdad - 1 (nicoliosgotpolio)
Megatheory - 1 (Crazy)
Sironigous - 2 (zwetschenwasser, dejkha)
zwetschenwasser - 4 (MadCrawdad, Jazzmyn, rokovoj, IH)

Not Voting: Megatheory

6 to lynch and 4 to lynch at deadline.
Deadline is March 8.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #103 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:50 pm

I already explained. It matters much more to me that rokovoj voted me for no reason and left his vote there than IH putting a pressure vote on me for, IMO, good reasons. Rokovoj has no reason to vote me, which is why opportunistic. I didn't consider his L-3 vote to be scummy per ce, even though I posted that logic earlier. It peeves me that he hasn't unvoted and had no reason to vote me from the beginning and started a huge argument about how his vote on me wasn't scummy without actually unvoting or providing a case against me. It's no longer a question of L-3 or L-2, it's a question about reasons for it. Jazzmyn, your thoughts on Sir, please?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #107 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:01 pm

When did I say I missed that? I said it didn't matter to me!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #110 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:09 pm

Behold, my new destruction of his post!

Let's look at this baby:

Yeah, let's.

Uselessness

Quote:

OMG!!!

Chatspeak for surprise. Unless I'm wrong about that expression too..

Useless information, with no point

I told you I'm making sure I examine everything.

That's not examining, that's pretending that something useless is meaningful

Quote:

Then he pretends he doesn't know what we're talking about.

Talking about hohum mafia or expression?

He continues to pretend he doesn't know that it's about hohum

Oh... dead hohum. oops. that's where you get that from

Liar! You knew it was hohum. And now you simply say "oops" instead of justifying yourself

Quote:

LYNCH THIS SCUM NOW!!!

I think he wants the other people to lynch me and get off his bandwagon. *shrug*

He ignores what I said about IH's case being valid and instead of defending himself goes off in another direction intending to incriminate me

Um. I defended myself already. I don't see IH's case valid. Just because I don't like your view on something doesn't mean it's wrong, does it? ... Unless you know something more than I do. ;/

No, you didn't defend yourself. You only disagreed with my opinion, then came up with a little side door to sneak your way out of. That's not defending yourself

Quote:

BTW, all you scum out there, if you kill me now, you'll be incriminating your buddy Sironigous.

wait.. How can scum kill YOU. And how does that incriminate me if they kill you

If scum kill me, the town will realize that they killed me/ committed suicide for attacking a townie instead of a mason right when you were getting the most pressure from a protown guy. Then they'll lynch you in two and a half seconds

But what you don't realize is I'm not voting for you. I really don't think you're scum.

And now he's getting paranoid! I never said anything about you thinking I'm scum. I never included that in my case!

Quote:

I don't suggest even attempting to suicide yourselves on my townie hide, if you want Sir alive.

Why would they suicide? That's not necessarily smart... Shouldn't they just daykill each other then if they wanted to? And of course, if the others are going to "LYNCH THIS SCUM NOW" I won't be alive.

And he pretends that he hasn't read the rules of the game

Oh wait, did I take something too literally now... This word suicide. /more confusion

And you pretend you're still confused. Had enough confusion excuses, yet, Sir?

Is it clear enough how much Sir is scum?

And I reiterate, I'm not voting for you.

Which has nothing to do with anything

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #112 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:17 pm

I don't need communication to see why IH is voting me. Isn't it obvious enough that he's trying to put pressure on me? And I changed my mind about Rok, from mad because of his early L-3 vote to his opportunism by not unvoting. Please actually read my posts.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #114 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:21 pm

You recognize Sir's slips and mistakes and you say your vote on me is still valid? Makes perfect sense.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #115 (isolation #34) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:23 pm

Enough of this crazy forum tag. I have a paper to write. Good night. Lynch Sir.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #118 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:34 pm

OY VEY! Doesn't anyone else see how much he's using the "I'm confused" card in this post to justify all the mistakes he's making?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #119 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:34 pm

BTW, I can't tear myself away from this site... I have to write this paper eventually...

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #121 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:40 pm

PRUFT

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #123 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:42 pm

Posted Right Under For Truthery.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #125 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:55 pm

I'm the one presenting the anti-Sir evidence. Dej is merely backing it up with a vote.

Vote Count #5

IH - 2 (ThaCoolness, Sironigous)
MadCrawdad - 1 (nicoliosgotpolio)
Megatheory - 1 (Crazy)
Sironigous - 2 (zwetschenwasser, dejkha)
zwetschenwasser - 4 (MadCrawdad, Jazzmyn, rokovoj, IH)

Not Voting: Megatheory

6 to lynch and 4 to lynch at deadline.
Deadline is March 8.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #138 (isolation #40) » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:27 pm

Sironigous is trying to distract attention away from himself using his Mafia daykill. Please define "selective quoting" and how I'm doing it.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #140 (isolation #41) » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:37 pm

Exactly my point.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #145 (isolation #42) » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:58 pm

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #147 (isolation #43) » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:59 pm

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #164 (isolation #44) » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:21 pm

Sigh. Sironigous's defense is pretty much "I'm confused, and zwet isn't scum." Doesn't anyone else see this? Also, Jazzmyn is trying overtly hard to defend Sir.

Scum List
1)Sir
2)Jazz
3)Rokovoj

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #166 (isolation #45) » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:28 pm

YAYZOER!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #170 (isolation #46) » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:00 pm

It is scummy.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #172 (isolation #47) » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:13 pm

You're vote was opportunistic and I explained why. Just deal with it.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #201 (isolation #48) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:52 pm

dejkha wrote:
Crazy wrote: Umm,
what?

If "scummy" doesn't mean "you're likely to be scum," then what does it mean?

I can understand the difference between vote worthy and lynch worthy, but to be "vote worthy" there actually has to have something there to begin with. Perhaps you came up with better reasons later, but when you voted Sir all you had on him was the word "hohum."

Now if it was the name of someone that was alive (could be a breadcrumb for a scum kill), I could understand, and I'd have probably voted Sir as well if that was the case, but you haven't supplied one reason why posting the word "hohum" could make someone scum.
Here's the imaginary bar:

[--------l--------^--------l--------]

The left end is thinking someone is no doubt town and the right side is thinking they're no doubt scum. The arrow in the middle is completely neutral and the straight lines mark the half way point to each side, which is the "he could be scum" threshold. Because I thought posting hohum was scummy and didn't necessarily make him scum, here's where Sir was (represented by the 'S'):

[--------l--------^----S----l--------]

He didn't pass the mark for me to think he's scum. Just because someone does something I think is scummy, doesn't mean I think they're scum.

I said I thought it was scummy because there was no reason to post scums name at the end of a post. In post 90 he seems to post a bunch of words it could mean and I see no reason he couldn't have used one of those.

Revised Likely Scum List:
Jazzmyn
Dejkha

This last post is complete BS.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #203 (isolation #49) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:00 pm

You've been acting quite protown.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #205 (isolation #50) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:18 pm

Mixing people up with crap logic barz and randomness = BS. Also, you jumped on the Sir case the second I said anything. That definitely smells like Bussing to me.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #212 (isolation #51) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:46 pm

Rok, all I said was that your vote was opportunistic and that I found that scummy. You've defended yourself quite well, and dejkha is starting to look scummier now than before. I think Crazy is town, and I have no read on Crawdad, mainly for lack of activity. BTW, my early sir vote was random, cuz I know him very well.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #214 (isolation #52) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:48 pm

Didn't we just go over this a page ago?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #217 (isolation #53) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:50 pm

He might have been crazy. Or it might have been a signal for Dej to start bussing him.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #220 (isolation #54) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:53 pm

No, because I'm not scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #224 (isolation #55) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:59 pm

Anyone notice dejkha is acting nervous and snippy?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #226 (isolation #56) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:02 pm

What is dej trying to get us to think?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #228 (isolation #57) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:02 pm

I would like crawdad to contribute more.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #231 (isolation #58) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:02 am

I'm not scum, therefore, I can't kill random people. What's so hard to get? And ThaCoolness, that's a very good point.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #233 (isolation #59) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:21 am

Is that a scumtell? Bringing up a piece of evidence to help clear someone?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #235 (isolation #60) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:32 am

Is that what Coolness implied? I didn't read it that way.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #237 (isolation #61) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:47 am

Says Mr. Dejscum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #239 (isolation #62) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:17 am

You're trying to make us believe a certain notion of what scum is supposed to acti like in the game? That's really scummy. My case on Sir was not pulled out of thin air. And I wasn't 100% sure that Sir was scum. You're putting words in my mouth, and you're trying to incriminate me by ignoring my posts.

Revised Possible Scum List:
1. Dejkha
2. Jazzmyn
3. MadCrawdad

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #241 (isolation #63) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:06 am

PRUFT

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #245 (isolation #64) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:43 pm

Do you know what the word "pressure" means, scum?

Unvote; Vote: MadCrawDad

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #247 (isolation #65) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:51 am

Whenever I say "scum" it's intended for pressure. Anyway, I find Dej scummier than you.

Unvote; Vote: Dejkha

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #249 (isolation #66) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:47 am

dejkha wrote:You found me scummier than him and vote him instead? Then switched your vote to me before I said anything else? What was the point of that?

Lynching scum. Duh.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #251 (isolation #67) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:09 am

It got him to speak up, at least. Yes, it was for pressure.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #254 (isolation #68) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:36 am

It did have influence, dejkha. The subconscious is a powerful thing.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #256 (isolation #69) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:58 am

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #258 (isolation #70) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:01 am

Why not a vote?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #282 (isolation #71) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:42 am

Actually, I'm pretty sure you're scum, dej.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #306 (isolation #72) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:07 am

Dej, there's more reason to find you suspicious, as you're not willing to hammer someone so you'll look like you were on the town's side once I flip town.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #308 (isolation #73) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:29 am

Is that all your defense?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #313 (isolation #74) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:10 am

Dejkha, I don't care that they can be applied to other people. What you're saying is pure WIFOM.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #315 (isolation #75) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:44 am

If you were in a random game and someone accuses two people of having the same scum tell, would your only defense be "no fair, the other guy's doing it too"?

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #318 (isolation #76) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:20 am

down what path? You don't even know what you're trying to say, and now you're threatening to lynch!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #320 (isolation #77) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:04 pm

WHAT FALSE CLAIM???

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #322 (isolation #78) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:26 pm

Yes. That's not a falseclaim. I don't do quotes. You should know that by now.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #324 (isolation #79) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:51 pm

Town, listen closely. Lynch dej tomorrow, then pressure Jazzmyn. If she checks out, lynch MadCrawdad. Bye folks!

Vote: Zwetschenwasser

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #326 (isolation #80) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:01 pm

Sarcastic nervous scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #329 (isolation #81) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:09 pm

Hahaha... Foolish scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #609 (isolation #82) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:38 am

Hey! I got all the scum right!