Open 119 - Masons and Mafia (GAME OVER) before 747

[MadCrawdad]

Well, sometimes I don't feel like posting, whether scum or town. Though I realize I'm supposed to, hence the "sorry."

And just because posting is something I "have" to do, doesn't mean that's the only reason I do it. I do need to express opinions and otherwise, though sometimes I suppose I'm just not in the mood to post in a mafia game. *shrug*

Crazy, would you say that the 'mood' to post strikes you differently depending upon role assignment?

Vote Count #8

dejkha - 1 (Crazy)
zwetschenwasser - 4 (MadCrawdad, Jazzmyn, rokovoj, IH)

Not Voting: dejkha, nicoliosgotpolio, ThaCoolness, zwetschenwasser

5 to lynch and 3 to lynch at deadline.
Deadline is March 8.

[zwetschenwasser]

Umm,

what?

If "scummy" doesn't mean "you're likely to be scum," then what does it mean?

I can understand the difference between vote worthy and lynch worthy, but to be "vote worthy" there actually has to have something there to begin with. Perhaps you came up with better reasons later, but when you voted Sir all you had on him was the word "hohum."

Now if it was the name of someone that was alive (could be a breadcrumb for a scum kill), I could understand, and I'd have probably voted Sir as well if that was the case, but you haven't supplied one reason why posting the word "hohum" could make someone scum.

Here's the imaginary bar:

[--------l--------^--------l--------]

The left end is thinking someone is no doubt town and the right side is thinking they're no doubt scum. The arrow in the middle is completely neutral and the straight lines mark the half way point to each side, which is the "he could be scum" threshold. Because I thought posting hohum was scummy and didn't necessarily make him scum, here's where Sir was (represented by the 'S'):

[--------l--------^----S----l--------]

He didn't pass the mark for me to think he's scum. Just because someone does something I think is scummy, doesn't mean I think they're scum.

I said I thought it was scummy because there was no reason to post scums name at the end of a post. In post 90 he seems to post a bunch of words it could mean and I see no reason he couldn't have used one of those.

Revised Likely Scum List:
Jazzmyn
Dejkha

This last post is complete BS.

[rokovoj]

Why am I suddenly off your scum list?

[zwetschenwasser]

You've been acting quite protown.

[dejkha]

This last post is complete BS.

How so?

[zwetschenwasser]

Mixing people up with crap logic barz and randomness = BS. Also, you jumped on the Sir case the second I said anything. That definitely smells like Bussing to me.

[dejkha]

Mixing people up with crap logic barz and randomness = BS.

1. Mixing

you

up =/= mixing people up.
2. Explain how its crap logic bars. Crazy wanted an explanation on how thinking someone did something scummy doesn't exactly make me think they're scum.

Also, you jumped on the Sir case the second I said anything. That definitely smells like Bussing to me.

Asking for an explanation =/= bussing. Don't flatter yourself.

[rokovoj]

At the moment I'm wondering if zwets has made a single post I actually liked. I don't see how you could go from "you're scummy scummy scummy" to "you've been acting quite protown" in a few posts.


I found what dejkha wrote about the logic bars to be understandable.

Why would anyone feel the need to bus their scum partner if the only thing against that person is zwets screaming loudly? Distancing I could see, busing not so much.

[Crazy]

Crazy, would you say that the 'mood' to post strikes you differently depending upon role assignment?

No.

I said I thought it was scummy because there was no reason to post scums name at the end of a post. In post 90 he seems to post a bunch of words it could mean and I see no reason he couldn't have used one of those.

o_0. Just because it has no town motivation doesn't mean it has scum motivation. There is no valid scum reason for posting the word "hohum" so it's not a scum-tell. I'm standing by that.

[Crazy]

Oh, and certainly this WIFOM will disturb some people, but seeing how the first 2 scum were so antsy with their triggers, doesn't it surprise anyone that zwet is at L-1 and hasn't vigged someone yet if he's scum? (Even if he vigged MT, he could vig again until he died.)

[dejkha]

o_0. Just because it has no town motivation doesn't mean it has scum motivation. There is no valid scum reason for posting the word "hohum" so it's not a scum-tell. I'm standing by that.

And I'm standing by what I think.

Oh, and certainly this WIFOM will disturb some people, but seeing how the first 2 scum were so antsy with their triggers, doesn't it surprise anyone that zwet is at L-1 and hasn't vigged someone yet if he's scum? (Even if he vigged MT, he could vig again until he died.)

Oh yeah, I forgot because Sir died, he's at L-1 now. It does seem a little off if he's scum, but I don't think much of it one way or another.

[Crazy]

And I'm standing by what I think.

That posting "hohum" is scummy because there's no pro-town reason for doing it?

Well, there's no pro-town reason for using the word "flabbergasted" but does that mean that everyone that uses the word "flabbergasted" is scum?

[zwetschenwasser]

Rok, all I said was that your vote was opportunistic and that I found that scummy. You've defended yourself quite well, and dejkha is starting to look scummier now than before. I think Crazy is town, and I have no read on Crawdad, mainly for lack of activity. BTW, my early sir vote was random, cuz I know him very well.

[dejkha]

When he uses scums name instead of the many other words he could've used, I think it's scummy.

[zwetschenwasser]

Didn't we just go over this a page ago?

[Crazy]

When he uses scums name instead of the many other words he could've used, I think it's scummy.

But

WHY

would scum want to post their dead partner's name? I don't get it.

[dejkha]

But

WHY

would scum want to post their dead partner's name? I don't get it.

I don't know, I'm not the one that posted it.

[zwetschenwasser]

He might have been crazy. Or it might have been a signal for Dej to start bussing him.

[dejkha]

He might have been crazy. Or it might have been a signal for Dej to start bussing him.

Or maybe it was a signal for you to start bussing him.

[Crazy]

But

WHY

would scum want to post their dead partner's name? I don't get it.

I don't know, I'm not the one that posted it.

If you can't think of a single reason why scum would do it, then you can't sell it off as a scum-tell!

[zwetschenwasser]

No, because I'm not scum.

[dejkha]

If you can't think of a single reason why scum would do it, then you can't sell it off as a scum-tell!

I don't know if I said it was a scum tell, I just thought it was scummy.

No, because I'm not scum.

Neither am I. I guess that's that then, huh?

[Crazy]

I don't know if I said it was a scum tell, I just thought it was scummy.

I don't care what you call it; you're missing the point.

[dejkha]

I don't care what you call it; you're missing the point.

Saying something is a scum tell isn't the same as saying it's scummy, so it does matter what I call it.

[zwetschenwasser]

Anyone notice dejkha is acting nervous and snippy?