Krazy's Post-Apocalypse uPick (Game Over)

[Hectic]

hooooooooooooooooo

[Hectic]

Heya, I see there's been 46 pages so far, so is that like day 5 or day 6?

[Hectic]

Also, my role is ridiculously overpowered. I'm surprised Krazy would even put something like this into the game. I tried to tell him it was just too much upon subbing in, and that people would probably blacklist me post-game for even being associated with this monstrosity of a role, but then he promised me a free copy of overwatch 2 if I stayed, so whatever.

[Hectic]

Nah, unless that miller had unlimited dayvig shots.

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Getting closer. Think serial without the killer part, and then add a pinch of wholesale slaughter.

[Hectic]

No, but oddly, that is my fakeclaim... are you a fakeclaim role cop?

[Hectic]

VOTE: Ali (Alisae hydra)

[Hectic]

Hey, I'm proving the mod's point as right.

[Hectic]

The second one is really what made it. DVa locktown.

[Hectic]

Ah, that's your alt lol.
Pocketed by the mod, feelsbadman.

[Hectic]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

you dropped your hat: _/¯\_

[Hectic]

Do we know for a fact town are in it though? Also, where am I? Does that make me some kind of Dreaming God?

[Hectic]

Why is Alim town, TSE?

I also think the PPP thing is very suspicious. Maybe scum have some kind of Paranoid Parity Protector, which would make it a scumslip.

[Hectic]

I'm up to page 12, and I'm finding it hard to believe Mastina is as confident as she says about these reads. Did she ever post her full explanations for that reads list, or should I keep reading without spoilers?

[Hectic]

In waiting for the hydras to die during the nightphase so we can have fun.

What makes you think they're particularly worthwhile kills?

Heads of a hydra talking amongst themselves. Because that's not what a PT is for, no. Hydra dissonance is why I forever distaste for them. Side note: echoing Jay here as well.

@Hectic, what is your reaction to this? It reads like chk did a complete 180 here.

~Fu

Fine, since chk and I are twins (lesser known fact), I can explain this for you. 1026 could be interpreted as him reasonining "hydras are such garbage that they're not even worthwhile kills."

[Hectic]

Hi, Sad. I'm Hectic.

[Hectic]

VOTE: Mastina

[Hectic]

Lul, I'm not chk...

I ISOed her and she doesn't feel like the town!Mastina I've played with. She has crazy confidence on reads with very little reasoning provided very early on. And the spammy thing recently doesn't feel completely sincere.

[Hectic]

I'm town [redacted] neighbour

I have a solar powered walkie talkie, so I can talk in the neighbourhood during day.

I also have 2 rounds of light ammo, Usable in any small or light firearm and 4 rounds of heavy weapons ammo usable in any assault weapon or automatic rifle.

Take that as you will.

After killing me, definitely look at Mena for reasons I posted just now, and maybe CSE too.

You didn't even full claim, so why are you talking like this is your last will, and we're going to kill you?

[Hectic]

@Future: A link to another game where she does this would be helpful, but I'm struggling to believe her being so confident on scum!FL, and a couple of other scumreads on page 7. And the spammy thing feels more flashy than something she sincerely feels is necessary.

[Hectic]

gauging interest for a CFD

Chinese Fire Drill?

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Not like it isn't obvious but this is Past.

I should be here on and off most of the day.

Could you put who is who in your sig? I keep forgetting who past, present, and future correspond to.

[Hectic]

Is Firebringer a Mastina alt?

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Still don't know what CFD means.

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Has the alimdia push died or...?

The collections seems townie enough.

what what what

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Yeah, that's gonna fill up a few dozen pages...

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Mastina, can you post that case for FL!scum you typed up in your PT on page 10? No reason to withhold it now that he's repped out.

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Does Leafy usually rep out as scum? Doesn't he pride himself in supporting his scumteam till the end?

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Pops has GIF-indicative tells, and there's a few particular GIFs I expect her to post if she's town here. Waiting on that.

[Hectic]

Mastina, can you post that case for FL!scum you typed up in your PT on page 10? No reason to withhold it now that he's repped out.

Mastina

[Hectic]

Let’s lynch anyone who claims town.

@Jester - now’s your chance! Krazy here knows I got a good jester game.

I really wish I was the jester role this game. I’d win easily

@papa leaf what do you think of mastina!jester?
-collector general

Damn, pushing me is like 100% the best action to make as Jester. I forgot about that because I’m jester.

What role has FL claimed so far? I'm not reading 250 posts.

I didn’t claim Jester, I stated I was Jester.
But I haven’t claimed thus far, PP.
I’m creating new meta, I don’t claim roles like that anymore.

As the player in “confidence”, knowing she’s wrong rubs me the wrong way, but I digress.

I also don’t know what’s stopping her from doing that as scum. I could see her as Jester and half would be fine just giving her the early win.

Clover is likely scum, and he’s definitely not jester.

I’m also waiting for Mastina to come in and push me, so I can decide if she’s Jester, wrong town, or scum.

These are pretty unambiguous.

Technically this should be included as well:

I think it’s only fair to tell you guys that I am an extremely strong Jester player.

In person, during Compromise, anyways, I was with Krazy and TLK, who will claim Jester as Jester to make you think I’m not Jester then be Jester, but make you think that’s my plan for the beginning.

I’m really trying to win a fantastic Jester victory on site, so bet, if I ever role Jester, I’m winning in the flashiest way possible.!

It's not something which seems to be jester-signalling the same way as the others are, but I include it just for the sake of thoroughness.

And this is just what I could find from searching his iso for the word 'jester'. I'm sure if I did the iso and there was mentions of jester without using the word I'd find even more than this.

FL knew there was a jester role in this game when that was an entirely unreasonable deduction to have made as town--it reeks of TMI of the highest degree.

Oh, is this the case?

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Mastina, so you're saying he's scum who's informed of a jester being in the game? Why does scum!Flavour so freely spout that info? I think he'd be more aware of his knowledge being used against him if he was informed of something like that.

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What do the numbers mean, Pops? Also, where's the GIF?

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There's a first time for everything, Pops. But fine, just tell me which of these GIFs is towny, and which is scummy. I need to test this tell.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[Hectic]

Lul, he flaked as a important game-revolving-around PR last I saw him.

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[Hectic]

I read the whole game during night. It took longer than I thought. That doesn't mean that some pages didn't blur together or that some of the spoiler tags felt like invitations to not to click to open.
Here's where I'm at on the game. I didn't re-iso anyone so like there may be lots of sloppiness. It didn't help that most of my available time for reading this game was during the day but I focus better at night.

Spoiler: wallpost

Past Present Future(3) - This hydra is mostly Nancy and when it's not Nancy it's schrodinger's Auro or Titus because their posting styles are similar enough. Nancy plays really different from lots of players but I think I tend to find her easier to read when she's not stressed or under pressure so it was frustrating to read my predecessor grilling her but that's probably how he tries to read everybody or something. I kind of expect Nancy to post something townreadable this dayphase or one or two later but then after too much waiting I'd have to figure she's probably scum.
That's not to say the other heads are unreadable they just haven't been posting much.
popsofctown(0) - is not an Advance Wars Days of Ruin character, replacing into a uPick sucks
Superb Subtlety(0) - This has really high scum equity. They're not meeting par. I even felt like to the extent posting with an image post restriction can be scummy they posted scummy. I feel like you could scumread or townread flipz's iso, but not providing anything else I can remember about these two when it's these two is a concern.
Pink Ball(2) - PB tends to feel townie on tone and where he wants things to go. Nothing he's posted has given me eyebrows, last time I played with him was a rainstorm of eyebrows.
His analysis of PP's unvote felt really resonant to me and really didn't seem like something someone would come to as scum. Nor does it seem like the kind of thought you'd post as scum and expect to get townread for. It really stuck out to me.
Alchemist21(3) - Doesn't matter what I think, he has a gun, etc etc. My modwifom on an apocalyptic themed setup is that the setup has to have the role "survivor" somewhere, because come on! That's the most apocalyptic role! And that gives Alchemist a little less room to be SK rather than a vig.
PenguinPower(3) - I agree with PB's analysis of the unvote earlier so he's townier than null. Both scum PP's I've faced have impressed me in the ways they've postured themselves so I give him a hard handicap but most of his other posting tends to meet the tough handicap.
Hectic(4) - This is the least impression a Hectic has ever made. I think this slot was originally chkflip? I have some postgamish thoughts about joining uPicks and implying you're going to phone it in because the media you watch is inherently superior to the media everyone else watches.. that tantrum is probably somewhat town indicative although he could be a goon with the same gripe. My guesses on Krazy is that there's more likely to be VTs than goons, though, he puts unlynchable scum in his setups. Pretty nully slot to me.
Dr Easy Bake(0) - I can't remember much of anything about DEB.
Clover Ebi(3) - This is like one of the 3.141 slots in the game kinda playing classic mafia. If he was green-eared I would have him townlocked but, probably by happenstance, most of the classic scumhunty stuff he has posted tends to be the stuff I think many mafia would be aware they should fake. I definitely don't want to lynch here because town!Clover probably solves the mafia game given enough time. I've never played with Clover he just seems to have one of those styles.
Elsa Jay(7) - Elsa Jay is one of those tea leaves or ink blot test reads. I was slightly leaning scum because falling below 10% "do x or elsa" joke density in his posts makes the ink blot look a little bit like bonfire but now he's claiming a kill so probably it's actually a snow poff.
TrueSoulEnergy(0) - I have him scummier than null but don't feel strongly about it. I'm confused about deviations from his meta being attributed to personal growth instead of a different alignment. Lots of forms of being bad are town indicative, confirmation bias for instance (though that's not what's missing here, what's missing is ego).
I'm used to not really agreeing with his reads but seeing how he came up with it, from what I remember I tended to not agree with his reads and not follow how he came up with it which is scum-indicative irrespective of meta.
Dats Mist(0) - Why hasn't Datisi townspewed yet!?! I felt like some of the first 15 pages or so was Datisi townspew actually and wonder whether I have some recency bias. Even if Datisi isn't townspewing left and right his posts always seemed like they are up to date and perceptive on what the gamestate is without trying to spin it or sculpt it in how they interact with it. If that makes sense. It just doesn't rule out passive scum. Dannflor(0) - I read Eclipse without being aware of hydra identity for many many pages and felt like Eclipse was wtfbbq obvtown. When I found out I was reading Ankposting my mind wanted to gird up and be paranoid of her reputation. I don't think that's actually served me well so far, though, and unlike for example the level of handicap I want to assign PP it's based on hearsay and not my own experiences, I've never mistakenly townread a scum!Ank, just played games and worried she's scum because I've heard she's good. So I think the right thing to do is lock in my first impressions keep the slot as my top townread.
alimdia(0) - This is a widely scumread slot for two strikes but I scumread it for one strike. I think the "You are unlikely to catch me by meta" strike is valid, it's a scumslip town might make but is more likely to come from scum. I'm a sucker for diction slips maybe to a fault. It's decent enough that if someone posted that and an RVS vote and nothing else and that was the Day 1 lynch in a large I'd be happy with it.
The neighborhood behavior I don't want to count as a strike. It's like, not pro-town but not pro-scum. It's easy to agree it's "wrong" but I struggle to put together a narrative in my mind for alimdia's action and what he's thinking as scum and how it's much more plausible than the town version. To me it's pretty unintelligible either way and I just want to read him off of his other play, starting at -1 points for the diction thing.
Firebringer(0) - Firepuppy! Usually I townread Firebringer more than this by now, but it's fun not to know what he is. I lean town on the AtE post, I bought it, but he could pull it off as scum. I think this is the only player in the game townreading my slot? That's cool
mastina-who-is-voting-and-not-in-"not voting"-copypasta : I agreed a lot with the thinking behind it being scummy for her to have a secret reason for scumreading my slot, and definitely being null at best to put forth "don't lynch Ank even if she's scum". I don't think people pushing those are scummy. There's town universes for both those things though.
There's not really scum universes for how mastina has positioned herself in this game, though. Scum!mastina cares about nothing but setting up her partners. She will say so, which is worthless and pointless because selfmeta is worthless and pointless. But I skimmed the scum PT to saga mafia, in a context with no reason to lie, and she genuinely did absolutely nothing but try to focus on the success of her partner. She even like, turned the scum PT into this weird notes PT of information that'd aid him akin to notes I might post to myself in a scum PT after my partners were all dead. But it was stuff for helping him. Mastina's scum philosophy is Sona_IRL.
I can't come up with any way that deathtunneling an FL slot, and starting the deathtunnel before anything had developed in the thread whatsoever, is setting up a partner. Who is the partner? Like, it literally can't be anybody, because nothing else had happened in the game yet, so there can't actually be any political reason the push could benefit somebody. The gamestate was symmetric at that point. For any other player, I could think maybe mastina is the player who benefits. Tunnels can be a safe place, or she could think the action spews her town. Having looked inside the engine though, the extent to which she doesn't care about that as scum is dramatic.
Doubling down on daystart here kind of reinforces that to me. I'm a likely day 2 lynch here but I'm a hyperposter so nonzero kicking and screaming. With day 1 being a mislynch already the supportive play would be to scummy-sheep whatever shapes up to be easiest day 2 rather than hold fast to convictions about my slot even though it's been replaced.
On the flipside of this, I scumread her tone and those specific things she's been called out on, but my batting average on those are bad and they have wineswaps to where they're not damning. So I'm going to go with firm town here.

You are seriously sr me here? I don’t believe you. I’m playing just like I played in Aurobattler. @Auro, I guess you were dead wrong this time. I should have known town!FL doesn’t have such shitty reads and this clearly confirms it.

VOTE: Pops

It sounded more like she way saying she was undecided on you and would have to scumread you if you didn't say anything towny in the next few days.

[Hectic]

What happened in Autobattler?

[Hectic]

PB do you want to be Weylon?

Spoiler: x

Pretty sure Lin fits him better.

[Hectic]

Nancy's probably town.

[Hectic]

I just read EoD 1 and Leafy's interactions with Nancy, and he's probably town from that. He's basically trying to convince Nancy to flip her townread to a scumread if he's scum there, which is a bad idea because of how loud Nancy is, and how she usually obvtowns as town.

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I forgot to say this earlier:
I never see FL replacing out as scum, popsofctown is locktown in my book.

I think he rarely reps out as either alignment, and he's been afking while modding elsewhere on site, so I think he was just busy.

[Hectic]

I have faith in you, Catleia. This giving me flashbacks to the Phone Operator game though. Not again pls.

[Hectic]

Isabella's name in the EU version.
I got pushed for being your buddy a bit, but fair enough, I'll leave the flashbacks to you. Too bright for me anyway.

Btw, did you intentionally try and set up associations with me or anyone else when you knew you were going down?

[Hectic]

More on this, I ended the day thinking Flavor's engagement there was... very bad. I thought about it and kinda reversed my position. I'm town reading Nancy pretty hard, and I don't think scum decides to pick a fight with town!Nancy right at the end of day simply to... what? Make himself a target? Add more noise to the thread? It's exactly the sort of stupid decision a townie, specifically a town Flavor, would make.

Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. It just doesn't make any sense for scum!Flavour there.

[Hectic]

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

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I tried to give pisskop a deathhug. It was a little overt and wifomy but I thought maybe it'd look like I was trying to push the associatives people had already imagined to too-associative-to-be-associative

Hmm, I think there may have been too many layers there for us to unravel in the way you intended. He did get lynched though, so there's that.

[Hectic]

Alimdia's feeling like a jester

[Hectic]

A Way of Kings. Epic fantasy with medieval themes and some magic. Kinda like GoT but better. 100% worth the read.

[Hectic]

They all seem like generally nice people. Are we sure there's any scum in this game?

[Hectic]

How about the Baker? I've played with him twice: He was scum coasting in one and didn't give any reads until voted and pushed, where then he claimed he finally had a read and heavily OMGUSed the pusher.

And as town where (in the Korina uPick game) he did quite a lot of solving and was pretty vocal.

[Hectic]

This is the scum (cult) one: viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81377&hilit=+Cult

Yeah, point being he's not doing any solving this game.

[Hectic]

Datisi, you're wary of voting Baker because Pink Ball is scumreading him and you don't TR Pink Ball? What about the others that are voting him? And Pink Ball wasn't in your PoE while Baker was.

[Hectic]

Ah, I see. Also, I keep thinking "wait, SS is in this game?" whenever I hear that abbreviation.

[Hectic]

What if Leafy was just busy since he was afking as mod too during the time he repped out? Is he still locktown?

EH???

[Hectic]

you're

read on him is stupid

I don't know how you've managed this but I might have to lock you as town for it.

[Hectic]

Their sig has past, present, and future in order. So Titus, Auro, Nancy respectively.

[Hectic]

That's giving them

two

much credit, Hectic.

Math.

[voet]Elsa Jay[/vote]

Math.

Finger of Scumread: Pops

[Hectic]

@mod: V/LA until the 10th.

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Yeah, I don't get the hostility there.

[Hectic]

Prodgy prodge. Will catch up tomorrow. For now:

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What's with all the negativity in the air? Let's all bond over lynching the Baker <3

[Hectic]

Come again?

[Hectic]

I sympathise with you over the aggression shown, Nancy, and I think it's unnecessary and their personal feelings should be kept outside of the game, but I don't think they're scum either.

[Hectic]

...who are you roleplaying as, Pops?

[Hectic]

Penpow's tone does feel kinda scummy tbh. Like, defensive and snarky in all the scummy ways. Also, that vig call is a little over the top.

[Hectic]

Did the worst think it was Chemist and PP, Pops?

[Hectic]

Which is when it suited you...? You’re legit making a mountain out of a molehill here when I have no incentive as scum to say anything at all regarding Pink Ball’s so your trajectory (as opposed to PB’s reaction) is gross and I’ll probably ask Elsa to stabby stab you while delivering three pizzas tonight.

@Elsa: Bonus week of vacation for the stabby stab.

Or Alch can shoot me and I can go chill with Mena in the dead pt. Don’t really care.

Can someone hammer now?

Eh, this doesn't really feel genuine/natural.

Feelsbad losing my no.2 position on Baker wagon; was really enjoying the view from there, but VOTE: Penpow

VOTE: PenguinPower

[Hectic]

Well, if it makes you feel better, I'm kind of buying this AtE. I'll see what others think for now though.

[Hectic]

Goddamit, Jangle.

[Hectic]

Which is when it suited you...? You’re legit making a mountain out of a molehill here when I have no incentive as scum to say anything at all regarding Pink Ball’s so your trajectory (as opposed to PB’s reaction) is gross and I’ll probably ask Elsa to stabby stab you while delivering three pizzas tonight.

@Elsa: Bonus week of vacation for the stabby stab.

Or Alch can shoot me and I can go chill with Mena in the dead pt. Don’t really care.

Can someone hammer now?

Eh, this doesn't really feel genuine/natural.

Feelsbad losing my no.2 position on Baker wagon; was really enjoying the view from there, but VOTE: Penpow

@Krazy:

Voted for Penpow here.

So is this wagon not hapenning anymore?

[Hectic]

Lul, we have 5 hours? VOTE: Superb Subtlety L-1

Let's hear a claim.

[Hectic]

Baker claimed 4-shot commuter which scum is unlikely to have and can probably be quite easily checked on a future night.

[Hectic]

Oh, a page 131 exists. I kinda want to wagon Penpow again but I'd feel awkward doing it with him here.

[Hectic]

Oof, you're appealing to me; I can't lynch a fellow mason.

Superb Subtlety, remind me who you checked as innocent? I think it's too obvious for me to get.

[Hectic]

That's pretty damn weird, but I don't see why he'd claim that as scum if he can actually commute, since he can probably evade most investigations.

[Hectic]

I think I see it, but I'll let him provide.

[Hectic]

lmao deb thought I copped him

OH
that would be amazing lol

[Hectic]

Why didn't you commute last night, Baker?

[Hectic]

Isn't Dannfloor d e e p w o l f i n g?

Clover's meh. I can see some things in his ISO that look artificial I guess.

The Day 1 wagon was rather surprising, I remember going to bed calling that guy town and then woke up to his lynch. I don't really know how this affects my reads. Will probably be voting the scumread who was both on that wagon and the ali wagon if it exists.

Like this.

[Hectic]

What about Flippo?

[Hectic]

Ignore that.

[Hectic]

VOTE: Clover

[Hectic]

In big four mafia, DEB made a town miller commuter, and scum!me was the only person who said that was town by role. Nobody else seemed to get it.

Wait, that's a role he made in the previous game he modded? That increases the chance of it being a fakeclaim by a lot.

[Hectic]

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

[Hectic]

Oo can I have a walkie talkie please??

[Hectic]

Am I supposed to scavenge or soemthing? I don't actually entirely understand how the mechanics of this game work.

[Hectic]

So I guess we gotta keep posting to give Krazy that PageTop.

[Hectic]

PageLast?

[Hectic]

It's done.

[Hectic]

OMG guys, you'll never guess what I got last night. It's basically the motherload. Not one but TWO, wait no, THREE items. Effectively sheeping my vote to Nancy/Aura/Titus until further notice.

[Hectic]

And sure, I'll be the one to ask the compulsory question to Elsa:
Why would you fakeclaim vig, and how does making Alch sweat help?

[Hectic]

And sure, I'll be the one to ask the compulsory question to Elsa:
Why would you fakeclaim vig, and how does making Alch sweat help?

Because I was bored, I haven't fake claimed in awhile, and the fact Alch legit also assumed I was a 2nd vig is also pretty telling, isn't it?

He didn't shoot me and he also didn't shoot Pops to disable me. Pretty good indication of something, atleast.

That's a fair point. Alch, why weren't you dubious of there being 2 vigs?

[Hectic]

Oof, the marathons have been very distracting. I'll catch up tomorrow.

[Hectic]

I need to get back into this game. Pops, please name your top 3 scum and I shall ISO them.

[Hectic]

100% will effort this tomorrow evening, and will closely examine both Penpow/Clover since they seem to be the main focus.

For now:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[Hectic]

Also, my role is ridiculously overpowered. I'm surprised Krazy would even put something like this into the game. I tried to tell him it was just too much upon subbing in, and that people would probably blacklist me post-game for even being associated with this monstrosity of a role, but then he promised me a free copy of overwatch 2 if I stayed, so whatever.

@Hectic, you should claim, it may possibly save your life in this game.

~Fu

Oh, just saw this, you sure? Unsure if the game could handle this kind of claim. I think even uttering this role's name may have side effects such as a random player being tree-stumped, and/or a couple of others being randomly day-vigged. Careful what you ask for.

[Hectic]

A confession: So, the reason I've been absent this game is because I've been watching The Irishman non-stop for the last 3 weeks, but I'm done now and have therefore decided to solve the game.

Spoiler: Penpow

PP conftown

Eh...why?

Take it with a grain of salt, but I if I recall correctly, you never unvoted in Ali v Pine, so the unvote timing right now looks like a townie approach coming from you.

Pink Ball might have a point with this. Checked my recently completed scum game with Penpow as well and he never unvotes.

Ah man.

UNVOTE:

Doing it again so soon after gives me bad vibes though, just in that he could be making use of that perceived towntell.

It's really hard to ISO Penpow given he barely quotes stuff he responds to, and has such short responses. You win this one, Penpow.

.

Spoiler: Alimdia

I'm switching over to alimdia because I didn't like his recent post where he said "if he shoots me make sure you powerlynch him tommorow" or something like that

Way too many inside jokes (I think) for me to handle in the first 10 pages!

I already want to VOTE: Superb Subtlety out for me thinking that people are talking to me when they say 'Ali'

maybe use Alisae and alimdia

This feels like an overly neutral and friendly entrance.

So, I just checked out his last scumgame and he's very standoffy and nothing like this in terms of friendliness. Though, I'm not gonna put

that

much stock into that considering it's a sample size of 1.

Mastina: I like how I'm 2nd on her readlist (I assume town to scum) when I havent posted yet

Other than that, I really dislike meta arguments like hers since I have no idea what the tell is.

This is slightly bad because it's commenting on something "weird" without associating it with an alignment.

Pink Ball:

5. Lynching FL D1 is never a bad idea, mastina probably doesn't believe what she's pushing but she's doing the right thing either way so points for her.


VOTE: Flavor Leaf

VOTE: Pink Ball
wtf?

This isn't great. Say why you dislike it.

This might sound weird, but I was disliking how much Alimdia was "um"ing and "uh/er"ing in early on, since they felt unnatural (?), or maybe filler words just feel scummy over text, but I checked out his other games and I think it might actually be a scumtell for him. The frequency of those words are increased in his scum-games. If he's scum here, I'm a genius and take full credit.

Alimdia's insistence at saying Mene should "mason" with him in the neighbourhood chat I dislike.

They'd only get access if one of us dies and scum scavenges our item. Also assuming Mena is not scum, his push on me was really sus and some of the people that hopped on had crappy reasoning.
Day 1 I guess.

"Assuming Mena is not scum, his push on me was really sus"? Sounds like he knows Mene isn't scum but is still calling it "sus", but in what way? Obviously Mene was third party but alimdia wasn't suggesting that here.

901 is scummoishing. Calling things "interesting" like chk's vote rather than taking stances on them is a scumtell (right?). And calling Penpow a "blatant sheep" doesn't say anything about his alignment either. He likes TSE's vote because "at least he was scumleaning me previously", but he hasn't suggested either of the others could be opportunistic scum so what was the point of this post?

1850: calling his own ISO "hot garbage" despite continuously insisting previously that he doesn't see the scumcase/reasons on him at all. that's enough for now, will pick this up again later

VOTE: Alimdia

[Hectic]

Wow

[Hectic]

since

[Hectic]

so nicely

[Hectic]

you asked

[Hectic]

A confession: So, the reason I've been absent this game is because I've been watching The Irishman non-stop for the last 3 weeks, but I'm done now and have therefore decided to solve the game.

Spoiler: Penpow

PP conftown

Eh...why?

Take it with a grain of salt, but I if I recall correctly, you never unvoted in Ali v Pine, so the unvote timing right now looks like a townie approach coming from you.

Pink Ball might have a point with this. Checked my recently completed scum game with Penpow as well and he never unvotes.

Ah man.

UNVOTE:

Doing it again so soon after gives me bad vibes though, just in that he could be making use of that perceived towntell.

It's really hard to ISO Penpow given he barely quotes stuff he responds to, and has such short responses. You win this one, Penpow.

.

Spoiler: Alimdia

I'm switching over to alimdia because I didn't like his recent post where he said "if he shoots me make sure you powerlynch him tommorow" or something like that

Way too many inside jokes (I think) for me to handle in the first 10 pages!

I already want to VOTE: Superb Subtlety out for me thinking that people are talking to me when they say 'Ali'

maybe use Alisae and alimdia

This feels like an overly neutral and friendly entrance.

So, I just checked out his last scumgame and he's very standoffy and nothing like this in terms of friendliness. Though, I'm not gonna put

that

much stock into that considering it's a sample size of 1.

Mastina: I like how I'm 2nd on her readlist (I assume town to scum) when I havent posted yet

Other than that, I really dislike meta arguments like hers since I have no idea what the tell is.

This is slightly bad because it's commenting on something "weird" without associating it with an alignment.

Pink Ball:

5. Lynching FL D1 is never a bad idea, mastina probably doesn't believe what she's pushing but she's doing the right thing either way so points for her.


VOTE: Flavor Leaf

VOTE: Pink Ball
wtf?

This isn't great. Say why you dislike it.

This might sound weird, but I was disliking how much Alimdia was "um"ing and "uh/er"ing in early on, since they felt unnatural (?), or maybe filler words just feel scummy over text, but I checked out his other games and I think it might actually be a scumtell for him. The frequency of those words are increased in his scum-games. If he's scum here, I'm a genius and take full credit.

Alimdia's insistence at saying Mene should "mason" with him in the neighbourhood chat I dislike.

They'd only get access if one of us dies and scum scavenges our item. Also assuming Mena is not scum, his push on me was really sus and some of the people that hopped on had crappy reasoning.
Day 1 I guess.

"Assuming Mena is not scum, his push on me was really sus"? Sounds like he knows Mene isn't scum but is still calling it "sus", but in what way? Obviously Mene was third party but alimdia wasn't suggesting that here.

901 is scummoishing. Calling things "interesting" like chk's vote rather than taking stances on them is a scumtell (right?). And calling Penpow a "blatant sheep" doesn't say anything about his alignment either. He likes TSE's vote because "at least he was scumleaning me previously", but he hasn't suggested either of the others could be opportunistic scum so what was the point of this post?

1850: calling his own ISO "hot garbage" despite continuously insisting previously that he doesn't see the scumcase/reasons on him at all. that's enough for now, will pick this up again later

VOTE: Alimdia

Oh, wait, my vote should be out of a spoiler. Stealing this PageTop.

VOTE: Alimdia

[Hectic]

There were some recent posts of Alimdia I didn't like so gave him a spin instead.

[Hectic]

A confession: So, the reason I've been absent this game is because I've been watching The Irishman non-stop for the last 3 weeks

Ew, why?

It's a love/hate relationship. Gonna start watching Knives Out now.

[Hectic]

*If Penpow is scum, he's probably scum with one of Pink Ball or Dann

[Hectic]

Fine, you've convinced me. You have my permission to target me, Firebringer. But only because you asked so nicely.

[Hectic]

Oh. Lot of people hate Clover right now lol

[Hectic]

Hectic is confirmed town

You're the best. Now I can meme to my heart's content.

Danfloor is still deep wolf btw. With Penpow as his lacky, probably.

[Hectic]

Also, I managed to form neighbourhoods with everyone but one person last night. I found that machine from The Prestige and... you know what happened next.
Sorry to that one guy.

[Hectic]

Oof, 4 of you are scum, aren't you?
Alright, here's my prediction:

Dannfloor
Penpow
Dats Mist
Pink Ball/Baker

[Hectic]

If you stare into the abyss, the abyss might just stare back.

[Hectic]

I should probably claim last, leave the best for last and all that.

[Hectic]

I'm basically a hoarder a this point. It's not obvious, but each side of the player list actually ends at a private dumpster that's only visible to those right on the end. I've been nonstop scavenging from that every night.

[Hectic]

If you haven't been successful in scavenging and don't own any items, Penpow, you should still claim any attempts at scavenging each night.

[Hectic]

Oh. Boring, why not go for some items?

[Hectic]

Don't worry, you'll get mine in due time.

[Hectic]

[Hectic]

Hmm

[Hectic]

See my solve here.

[Hectic]

{Pink Ball/Dannflor + Penpow + Dats Mist + Baker}

[Hectic]

Not quite yet in the UK, but thanks!

[Hectic]

What you trying to say, Dann

[Hectic]

Better than mafia goon tbh

[Hectic]

Well, that depends on the game mechanics and your partners actually.

[Hectic]

Oh no. Hope you guys are ready for this, it might just blow your goddamn mind and sacrifice everyone to Yog-Sothoth while it's at it. This role is

sentient

.

Spoiler:

This isn't for the faint of heart, so stop reading if you know what's good for you.

Spoiler:

It's not too late to turn back y'know. Last chance.

Spoiler:

Alright, you asked for this.

Spoiler:

VT

[Hectic]

I somehow managed to scavenge that baseball cap that I was like furthest away from.
The neighbourhood has been relatively unproductive.

[Hectic]

Also, I'm technically worse than a VT because I can only use or handle one item/ability per night.

[Hectic]

Do you guys have me as strong town because of the Firebringer clear or other reasons?

[Hectic]

Do you guys have me as strong town because of the Firebringer clear or other reasons?

I don't have you as strong town, I have you as less scum than other slots.

Happy birthday Hectic I hope you're having a good time 'cause you've made me very happy every time I see you post <3

You're the best <3

Who are we voting again? Penpow or Cephrir?

[Hectic]

Why is everyone disregarding Dats Mist as scum this game?

[Hectic]

This is still my likely course of action atm though.

[Hectic]

It seemed crazy to me that scum would lie about being a vig but at this point I don’t trust anyone.

yeah this slot is absolutely some brand of scum lmao.

Why is it crazy to lie about being a vig, especially with the restrictions of having to find ammo first, Alchemist?

[Hectic]

V/LA until 29th

[Hectic]

VOTE: Dats Mist

Should be out of quickhammer range. But if you need assistance hammering someone in the next couple of days.

[Hectic]

I didn't realise "town leader" was actually the name of a role. I thought Firebringer was just very well respected around these parts.
Who do we lynch, Firebringer?? Dats Mist, the Baker, or Penpow?

[Hectic]

Would the game be over if there were 4 scum alive? Or would a serial killer keep it going?

[Hectic]

Would the game be over if there were 4 scum alive? Or would a serial killer keep it going?

Anyone know the answer to this? Couldn't find one in the rules; apologies if I'm blind.

For the record though, I think it's 3 scum and a serial killer alive.

[Hectic]

Thank you, both.

[Hectic]

I already claimed that my last night's search for a bullet failed. I have no ammo at the moment.

And sure, CoC2 was a much shorter and smaller game at the time I was less busy. Was that just a jab at my laziness or?

-D

Dats Mist (Datisi/Chemist Hydra) -- Colt Defender (

1 round loaded

)

Why bring this up now that they're dead and flipped town?

[Hectic]

whether Alchemist is SK or vig

[screaming]

regarding my role i would like everyone to claim whether or not they targeted me last night before i out

Nope

[Hectic]

So, Alchemist(SK) + Pink Ball + Baker + popsofctown ?

I scavenged and found a gatling gun last night. It has 200 shots but I have very bad aim. I reckon I could take down a couple of them.

[Hectic]

Leafy subbed out because he was busy, and wasn't satisfied with the amount of time he'd have to put in to a scum game. Oh his way out, he told Baker in scumchat that he should bring up and push the fact that he's never seen Leafy as scum sub out before.
Pink Ball's been guiltied, and Alchemist is obviously not a vigilante.

[Hectic]

He wasn't busy before he subbed out is the assumption. He's mentioned something about working on set since subbing out so I'm assuming that was the reason.

I read your play as towny, but I've kinda accepted that I'm bad at reading you. The only time I've caught you as scum was in a marathon game, which doesn't really count.

[Hectic]

The Baker in general just feels like he cares too much about how his posts look, and it feels like he's been posting to appeal to people the last couple of day phases.

Baker, why is Penpow scum?

[Hectic]

whether Alchemist is SK or vig

[screaming]

regarding my role i would like everyone to claim whether or not they targeted me last night before i out

Nope

[Hectic]

Oh yeah, the Past Present Future hydra were kind enough to gift me a towel last night. I've always wanted one of those, so you guys are the best <3

[Hectic]

i would like everyfone to know i am not wearing pants.

This must be comfortable for you.

[Hectic]

Is this as easy as Baker last scum, and Alchemist SK?

Please claim your shots.

[Hectic]

You will be missed, Forebringer. I owe you everything.

[Hectic]

Order of shot claims should be Baker>Alchemist.

[Hectic]

I say "as easy as", but how does town even win this now?

[Hectic]

If we no lynch, Alchemist just wins because he's full bulletproof, I think. Maybe we hope he's X-shot?

[Hectic]

VOTE: No-lynch

I've been saving something special for an occasion like this.

[Hectic]

Baker, if you claim scum, I'll lynch Alchemist with you.

[Hectic]

This is very interesting indeed.

Baker, claim your shot(s) from the night before the last please.

[Hectic]

Hectic, I don’t think you’re the Town player here. I think you and Cephrir organized the No Lynch together thinking/hoping I was only 1-shot BP and then no matter which way my kill fell you could have come in this Day with 2 alive and at least 1 scum.

HA

[Hectic]

For obvious reasons, do not vote me, Baker.

[Hectic]

Voting me guarantees your loss? Firebringer is a dead cop who checked me as town, Baker.

If you're town, we win here since Alchemist messed up by accidentally killing the last scum last night lol.
If you're scum, I guess I'm just the kingmaker here.

Be honest with me.

[Hectic]

Hectic is confirmed town

Do I need to quote what he flipped as well for you?

[Hectic]

Could there even be 4 scum? I feel like an SK and 3 scum for this game makes sense

Yeah, I think Alchemist might've just handed town the win by accidentally killing the last scum. No idea why he killed Cephrir over me who was confirmed town though. I guess he was convinced you were the last scum who could maybe kill me?

[Hectic]

I mean, whatever. Either we've been gifted the win, or you're actually scum and I'm gifting the win to scum.

Either way, there's no world where I should ever vote for you over Alchemist. Since voting you guarantees a win for the SK, while voting Alchemist means we actually win if you're town.

VOTE: Alchemist

[Hectic]

[Hectic]

Eh, 4 scum + 1 Third Party + 1 SK seems a little wacky for 19 players. My money's on 3 scum and Baker being town.

Come in with some delicious hammers, Baker.

[Hectic]

You're trolling, right? Are you really considering voting me who is confirmed town from a dead cop over the claimed serial killer?

You win as town or scum here. Just hammer.

[Hectic]

Hectic is confirmed town

THE REAL QUESTION U SHOULD BE ASKING IS WHO DO I CLEAR/CHECK NEXT?!?!?!

WHAAT WILL OUR GLORIOUS TOWN LEADER ORDAIN AS HIS NEXT DEPUTY

Firebringer was stabbed! He was...

Spoiler:

Town Leader and Backup Cop

Welcome to Krazy's Post-Apocalypse upick!



You are Rick Grimes, a

town leader and backup 3-shot cop

.

Mech: You may use one ability or item at night
ABILITY: Scavenge -- you may spend the night recovering items from the home of a dead player. If you are the closest in game order to the player, or the higher role number compared to someone equidistant from the player, you will retrieve the desired item, unless something else overrules this.

REACTIVE ABILITY: Backup 3-shot cop -- If a town cop dies (rolecop or alignment cop), you will gain the ability to check players to learn their alignment/role (depending on what you inherited). You will have three activations for this ability if this occurs.

CONDITION: Leader -- You see yourself as a leader. If anyone is voting to lynch you at the end of a day cycle, you will gain the macho modifier for the subsequent night.

Win:

You win when all threats to the town have been removed.

Game thread here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81907

Confirm:

Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name

Firebringer also had the following item on his corpse: a fishbowl which would allow him to leave a last will! He did not leave a last will.

[Hectic]

Surely you're trolling me at this point, Baker. I genuinely can't tell though.

[Hectic]

Baker. Assuming you are town and not trolling scum:

-Hammer me and Alchemist wins 100% of the time. We all lose.

-Hammer Alchemist and town wins. But if I do turn out to be scum, you lose.

There's an option there which results in 100% loss, and the other which does

not

result in a 100% loss. Also, I've been checked and confirmed by a cop, so I'd have to exactly be a Godfather to be scum.
Weighing these options up, where do you want to place your vote?

I mean, the main thing is that I've literally been confirmed and the odds of Godfather are slim (if allowed). Put the cocky flame wielder out of his misery.

[Hectic]

What are you waiting for, Baker? Why do you even think I'm scummy in the first place?

[Hectic]

The dead thread is hilarious

Krazy, you totally got me when you declared I'd been endgamed lul. I was thinking what kind of wacky third party role did Baker happen to be?

[Hectic]

no me

[Hectic]

Only 3 more pages to go. Keep up the good work!

[Hectic]

If you killed me and maintained your vig claim, I think you had a real chance of convincing Baker to vote Cephrir over you.