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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:23 am

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In post 4448, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4446, PenguinPower wrote:Yes, I think Ceph-slot is scummier than pops...though I've not been good at reading scumpops.
Ceph always looks scummy. Anyone who played in BP can verify that. Ank was hower bleeding obvtown, so I hard oppose this lynch.

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In post 4429, Past Present Future wrote:I can’t see Cephir ever scum here based on Ank’s posting.
She correctly identified 3 townies: Or, Clover, Alimdia and of course, us. I can’t see why scum!Ank would ever do this.
And I think I’m pretty good at reading Ank and this 100% looked like her towngame to me. If anyone seriously disputes this, ISO Eclipse - particularly any posts signed either “Leona” or “Sunbitch”? I think. I believe Ank was well beyond her scum range here.

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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:36 am

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I mean, you can identify town as scum too, it's even easier
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:36 am

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I like PP's vote better than pops
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:49 am

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In post 4451, Pink Ball wrote:I mean, you can identify town as scum too, it's even easier
In post 4452, Pink Ball wrote:I like PP's vote better than pops
Does scum often tend to play contrary to their wincon like that? Scum want mislynches. They don’t go out their way to townread 4 townies - 3 dead + us. Think.

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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:54 am

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In post 4453, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4451, Pink Ball wrote:I mean, you can identify town as scum too, it's even easier
In post 4452, Pink Ball wrote:I like PP's vote better than pops
Does scum often tend to play contrary to their wincon like that? Scum want mislynches. They don’t go out their way to townread 4 townies - 3 dead + us. Think.

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Just to add, assuming Alch isn’t groupscum here and very likely he isn’t, then neither Or nor Alim were scum kills and we of course know that Clover was a mislynch.
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:58 am

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In post 4454, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4453, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4451, Pink Ball wrote:I mean, you can identify town as scum too, it's even easier
In post 4452, Pink Ball wrote:I like PP's vote better than pops
Does scum often tend to play contrary to their wincon like that? Scum want mislynches. They don’t go out their way to townread 4 townies - 3 dead + us. Think.

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Just to add, assuming Alch isn’t groupscum here and very likely he isn’t, then neither Or nor Alim were scum kills and we of course know that Clover was a mislynch.
My point obviously being that if any of the 3 were actually scum kills, my point would probably be moot, because scum could easily claim to tr their NKs but since none of the 3 were scum NKs, my point is 100% valid.

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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:00 am

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In post 4453, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4451, Pink Ball wrote:I mean, you can identify town as scum too, it's even easier
In post 4452, Pink Ball wrote:I like PP's vote better than pops
Scum want mislynches.
And they've got plenty of those. And all of those townreads, except your slot, are dead.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:06 am

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In post 4456, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 4453, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4451, Pink Ball wrote:I mean, you can identify town as scum too, it's even easier
In post 4452, Pink Ball wrote:I like PP's vote better than pops
Scum want mislynches.
And they've got plenty of those. And all of those townreads, except your slot, are dead.
But none were scum kills, although of course scum could have definitely been on Clover wagon. My point is that Ank had no idea - at the time she gave those reads, that any of those slots would die. Also, she also hard tr Elsa as well, so + us, that brings us to 5 slots she hard tr, so tell me how that wouldn’t be gamethrowing from a scum perspective? Had Ank not replaced out, we very likely wouldn’t even be having this discussion, because I doubt she would have ever voted one of her top trs.

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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:09 am

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Cephrir hasn't impressed me yet but between Ank's day1 play and the fancy mystical secret nightpower tonight I think there's enough reason to lynch somewhere else.
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:15 am

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Hmmm ok I get your point now Nancy, but on that same note, Ank townreading 5 slots in early game doesn't mean she would keep townreading them later, but we can't know for sure 'cause she left and we have much more info on how Dann played on that slot.
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:19 am

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I mean my only 'but' right now is that, when Ceph repped in in AvP in a scum slot, he pretty much drowned the thread with analysis to give his slot a fresh start. Here he's a non entity. I can't remember but I'm pretty sure we helped Ceph to build a narrative when he game in 'cause it was a 400 pages game at that point. Maybe that means he has no partners here because of time of reaction.
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:21 am

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I don't know. I'm starting to like the theory that this is a three man scumteam with the scumteam having a weapon as an item and sharing it along their faction kill, and both Alch and DM being scum. I was hoping Alch would townside today but he's pretty much prodging at this point and maybe the SK narrative has suited him well.
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:22 am

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That would clear my suspicions about Dann 'cause the third scum would be between Fire/DEB
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:55 am

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Why is everyone disregarding Dats Mist as scum this game?
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:56 am

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This is still my likely course of action atm though.
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:06 am

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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:25 am

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In post 4463, Hectic wrote:Why is everyone disregarding Dats Mist as scum this game?
I'm fine voting here as well. Unproven vig can die.
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:16 am

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In post 4448, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 4446, PenguinPower wrote:Yes, I think Ceph-slot is scummier than pops...though I've not been good at reading scumpops.
Ceph always looks scummy. Anyone who played in BP can verify that. Ank was hower bleeding obvtown, so I hard oppose this lynch.

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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:21 am

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How unproven is this unproven vig? Are they a full vig that's now missed 3 times? That would seem a bit egregious to me.
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:22 am

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Also, isnt there already some killing role in the setup given the number of deaths?
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:27 am

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DM claimed they can summon light ammunition at night or fire at night and they start the game with no ammunition, and that they summoned ammunition night 1, shot Alchemist night 2 and it did not result in his death, and tried to summon ammunition night 3 but were roleblocked.

Alchemist has killed someone every single night. He is speculated to be an SK from DM claiming they tried to shoot him and the shot failed, making everyone speculate the classic fully bulletproof serial killer, but that shifts a lot with a red DM
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:30 am

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In post 4303, Dats Mist wrote:Town Vigilante. Joel from The Last of Us. We need light ammo to shoot, and we start the game with no ammunition. At night we can scavenge or look for a bullet.

N1: looked for a bullet, successfully found one.
N2: shot Alch
N3: looked for a bullet, didn't find anything, so someone blocked us.

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What's up with DM not receiving Light Ammo from alimdia night 3? He was killed, but the actions should resolve concurrently and he was heavily encouraged/blackmailed about giving DM Light Ammo
This makes me worry DM did receive light ammo and badly wants to be off the hook for producing nightflips
Scum can't have roleblocked both DM and alimdia, I wouldn't expect scum to have two roleblockers.
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:32 am

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Preemptive prodge, I’ll be here later today/tonight.
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:41 am

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My tinfoil hat told me PB’s “searching for allies” claim was a Traitor crumb but it was at like 2 AM when it told me that.
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:56 am

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In post 4470, popsofctown wrote:DM claimed they can summon light ammunition at night or fire at night and they start the game with no ammunition, and that they summoned ammunition night 1, shot Alchemist night 2 and it did not result in his death, and tried to summon ammunition night 3 but were roleblocked.

Alchemist has killed someone every single night. He is speculated to be an SK from DM claiming they tried to shoot him and the shot failed, making everyone speculate the classic fully bulletproof serial killer, but that shifts a lot with a red DM
i guess that's reasonable but i question whether an sk is possible given the rules
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