Mature Mafia: Game Over

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vote: logicticus

for actively trying to avoid scrutiny.

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vote: logicticus

for actively trying to avoid scrutiny.

so who has invited scrutiny at this point that disqualified them from this vote?

Everyone but you

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I didn't edit anyone's post. Look elsewhere.

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FREE FIRING SQUAD checking in:

vote: mathcam

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Unvote, Vote: DGB

Putting faith in a lynch is one thing. Pushing wagons blindly or with no reasoning whatsoever, for its own sake, is another. DGB should perish immediately.

Well put, I appreciate your decisive leadership. However, the mathcam matter needs settling first. Mathcam must claim or die. Elvis took the leadership before you, she gets priority.

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Yo elvis, HIGH FIVE!!!

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REASON #1: Early game esoteric, crack-smoking speculation "part of his role is that he can fake his own death."

Interesting post from zu. I have nothing in my role PM that says I have to self-reveal when deceased. Either this was told to him by emp once it was known he was going to die, or part of his role is that he can fake his own death.

REASON #2: Sneakily trying to get other players to make cases against townies for him, since there was no case at all against me, only false accusation of editing a post.

I'd like to hear something stronger against DGB, and/or a response from her.

REASON #3: Agrees with Adel. I kid you not. That's called sucking up.

I agree with Adel.

REASON #4: Votes Pooky for being oh-so-predictably Pooky-like.

Okay, now on to some mafia: Vote: Pooky. Nothing like being able to completely disavow responsibility for your vote.

REASON #5: Like any regular scumbag, gets knickers in a twist because he's being wagoned "for nothing." See Post

REASON #6: Still hung up on post editing, transparently tries to deflect his wagon onto Pooky. See Post.

REASON #7: Like a cat that has taken a fall, acts all innocent and starts licking his paws.

I'm confused. Maybe you could explain how that has anything to do with me being scum or not.

Meow.

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I believe in the mathcam wagon, Glork. Your second question does not apply.

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Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaach.

If you're going to say that, better justify it.

I'm looking forward to your explanation. It's an essay question, worth 35 points.

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Nah, mathcam's been rising the hair in the back of my neck. Do you really think that scum would aggressively pursue a mislynch on page 4? First wagons never lead to a lynch, why would I compromise myself if I were scum?

This being said I generally accept your assessment of what is a stretch and what isn't.

As for: A) the rules are unclear (given that the rules post says "You know the rules" or something along those lines); Not sure what you mean because I never read the rules but I do play the game and don't intend anything different here.

And for: B) sabotaging gameposts in the thread is modkillable - that makes sense. If we start doing that, it's not mafia anymore.

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I'm going to

vote dgb

for blatant wagoning and no more.

Yes it's blatant day 1 page 4 wagoning. I do believe I see more scumtells than average for mathcam. That's my opinion.

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Yep, cam isn't claiming, and any player that is at -1 or -2 that delays claiming is a MEGA-scumtell in my book.

Hey Glork I think that would make it flimflam reason that cam is scum #8.

So we have a Glork-mathcam-Macros scumgroup, wow, you guys must have thought "Dream Team, woo!" when you got your PMs.

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Fab!

Three valid reasons should be good enough for anyone.

You're defending mathscum, and Macros rushed to bandwagon any player that's not mathscum, which happened to be me.

It is unbelievably original and insightful, I believe you put the wrong emoticon at the end of the sentence.

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I wouldn't, but you did, haha.

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mathcam = resistance to claim

Resistance to claim = scum

Therefore:

mathcam = scum

mathcam, claim or die.

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The cam wagon has far more merit than the nascent raj wagon. If a wagon was ever fueled by scum, it would be the latter, rather than the former.

mathcam refuses to claim, I repeat, this is a MEGA scumtell.

Mega mega mega.

Even if we had no reason to wagon mathcam before, now he have a huge reason.

And then some players are attempting to distract mathcam from claiming by starting a wagon on Raj. Raj??? Pretty flimsy. One of these players is Glork, whom I believe may be mathcam's partner.

FOS the raj-wagon riders

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mathcam, I'm looking really hard, I'm reading your post over and over, but I can't seem to find your claim.

Can you point it out to me?

Many thanks.

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Don't you think it would be better to take a broader stance and examine all my posts not only for a claim...

Oh, so there's a claim. Where is it?

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I like>>>

I still want Mathcan to claim for devious reasons of my own devising.

Very much.

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Someone needs to claim something.

Indeed.

In particular, mathcam.

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For Pete's sake. Will someone

please

explain to me why?

BECAUSE... you have been specially selected.

That's how day 1 goes. We find someone reasonably scummy (you) and that someone claims. We hear the claim, and we decided whether we should hammer or not.

Again, your stubborn refusal to claim = super dooper godfatherrific scumbagorama.

I just don't see what good Raj claiming would do for us, and I

can

see a detriment.

Unbelievable. Of course, someone is going to claim something by the time this day is over. You think we can go a whole day 1 without anyone claiming?

We're playing mafia, not "stallfia" - claim please.

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Elvis, raj,

I love ShadowLurker too, marinated on a skewer. mathscum must claim. Let's get back to work.

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So Pooky, what you're saying, is that you want mathcam to claim?

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unvote

vote Mathcam

cuz noone seems to like Glork

Don't worry Pooks, Glork is next.

And then, there's the Adel problem. Have you noticed how profoundly daft her more recent post is? I have.

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Also, the raj-wagon (Axelrod, Glork, mathcam, elvis) is complete and utter rubbish. And look! Both mathcam and Glork are riding it. Great distraction from mathcam!

And look further! Adel gave me a fourth vote. Given her dubious voting record in this game, that's one more strike in her favor. Another one that wants to distract from mathcam.

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Glork?

ReEeEEeEeeAaaasAaaaAaCCCCCCCChhhhhhhhhh!!!

Your case against raj is a very long and tedious one, but it's still rubbish. When a player takes every single post another player has made and spins them to look like scum, unless that player is mathcam, that gives me bad vibes about the player making the "case."

FOS: Glork

- for making overwhelming rubbish cases.

FOS: Talitha

- for taking Glork's word uncritically.

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"Random Vote, nothing to see here." OBLIGATORY NEUTRAL
"After some more heat, Raj backs down. He does throw out the comment that those defending Axel are "his scumbuddies." Kiss and make up with Axel. The next post is a doozie. Here, we see RAJ actually FoS Adel all on his own. NEUTRAL
"Macros unvotes, and Raj sees only 1 on th Camwagon" NEUTRAL
"RAJ mentions WIFOM to debunk EK's defense of me. Not really much to see here.
More WIFOM discussion, strengthened by RAJ claiming he'd reveal exactly what I did." NEUTRAL
"Misread/Misrepresentation of Cam... obviously I'm biased at this point, so you know which one I think it is." SPIN

I insist that your "assessment" is spin. A few sparse neutral comments don't tip the scale.

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What is the last letter of the word? That should suffice.

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Come on, mathcam.

The last letter of your ALIGNMENT.

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Claim:

I'm the replacer.

That says NOTHING about your alignment.

In other news, Adel's case against Elvis is rubbish, in the same way that Glork's case against Raj is rubbish.

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I think it was a bullshit wagon that happened to be accurate. 1/4 or so random wagons are going to be.

Well said. That's how I feel about it.

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I don't understand why mathcam took so long to claim if he was vanilla. I expected a really creative made up roleclaim after making us wait an eternity.

Cam - why did you decide to claim vanilla instead of making a credible fakeclaim?

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The raj wagon is rubbish. The cam wagon is infinitely better.

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Am I the only one depressed by this lenghty annoying day?

No you're not, but mathcam still being alive depresses me more.

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Fun is to lynch mathcam whow made us wait forever for what was essentially a worthless claim. FUNNNNNNN!

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Vanilla. Next?

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Vanilla mod-powers for sure.

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unvote, vote: Macros

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I still Think Cam/Glork are our best bets for scum.


I think cam has yet to properly explain away my last jab at him.

I know... but *curses* it's not happening. Macros is on my Cam/Glork/Marcos axis of evil.

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vote: Glork

- Axel is right.

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Glork or Adel. These are the players I will vote for today.

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I got your buddy wrong, doesn't mean I'm wrong about you!

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Talitha is town.

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Both Axel and Talitha are town.

There is nothing about my role, I have no role or mod powers.

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For both players, one or two sentences that I feel could not possibly have been written if either of you were scum.

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No, it's just that my mood swings wildly depending on my prescription regimen, whether I'm voluntarily or involuntarily committed, how tight the straight jacket is, that kind of stuff.

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Is one week enough time to lynch Glork?

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unvote, vote CGD

just for clarity

CGD, who that???

I'm leaving town for several days on June 25 (I'll be on a plane on that day) so V/LA until Jul 8 or 9 (I forget).

I'd rather not be replaced.

If you want to lynch me, hurry up, my time is running out.

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I can get behind DGB. That would put him one vote away from a lynch. If no better arguments come up, I will vote tomorrow. I'm also interested in what nonnys has to say.

Hurry up I'm going on vacation in four days. And I'm still a "she." There's been no change. The operation was a dismal failure.

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Because there hasn't been much going on I'm supporting a DGB lynch (who has been active) becuase from my perspective I expect there to be one scum between Glork and DGB since they (along with me) were have not claimed specific mod powers.

Does that mean that you'll lynch Glork after I come up town? Yey!

Going on vacation until July 8, please don't replace me, thanks. If you lynch me the point is moot.

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Just came back from vacation 2 hours ago. Will be active tomorrow.

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I'd be on board an Adel lynch.

I think logicticus and nonny are town.

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DGB: Why do you think nonny is town?

Demeanor and attitude.

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Following Talitha's analysis, I'd be willing to lynch Glork or Werebear. Good catch on the latter.

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I can't say I'm feeling a nonny lynch.

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I'm not feeling an Adel lynch either.

unvote, vote: DrippingGoofball

Now Adel and I are 3:3. Let's wait and see who the scum prefers to see dead.

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Vote Count:
Adel -3 (EK, logic, nonny)
Glork - 2 (Axel, DGB)
Nonny - 1 (Adel)
DGB - 1 (Coron/Armlx)
Werebear - 1 (Talitha)
Not voting (Glork, werebear)

Deadline = Wednesday 16 July 11.09pm GMT

Half of majority plus 1 votes required at deadline.

I had one vote, then nonny switched to me, so that Adel has two and I have three. I must be wrong somewhere again.

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Armlx, you're too chicken to compromise yourself with my lynch? Could it be because you know I am town?

unvote, vote: armlx

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You don't sound like yourself.

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Unvote

Apparently the power of Glork means people here just won't vote for him ever. I will vote someone else before the deadline. Beware!

Hey, I think Glork is scum.

Here you go.

unvote, vote: Glork

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I disagree Nonny. Maybe with you its different since you were a replacement, but I have leveled a couple of charges towards DGB with no response and I think there are other players who have also asked questions.

Logic, I think you're town. Your charges amount to a hill of beans, but if that's the best you got for today, it'll have to do I guess, so you guys lynch me.

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Nonny prodded me tonight again asking to post. I think if she were scum, she'd let me die off quietly, as I p much expect to be vigged tonight. Seriously, EK, nonnylynch is BAD.

Isn't this widely believed to be an all-vanilla game?

Then we'd have to lynch you, no? What's this vig'ing nonsense?

Nonny prodding you says nothing about her alignment being town. If you two were buddies, you bet your green shirt she'd be prodding you.

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Tally, Glork is scum. If you don't switch your vote to him, I will die.

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Maybe Adel can volunteer the name of who she nightkilled?

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How am I supposed to know whether I'm dead or alive???

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I love the thread titles in this game.

Axel, I have to ask too, why do you think they picked elvis? I don't get what you're saying.

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Today, I could go for a nonny or Werebear lynch.

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OK, I change my mind. Nonny's latest post has the fresh aroma of an honest townie.

Adel, on the other hand, just oozed out of the compost pile.

vote: Adel

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You've thrown low-level attacks at me all game, but I am pretty confident (from a game design perspective) that one the non-mod-enabled players has got to be scum. The alternatives would be that all of the scum were given mod duties, or that some or all of the scum fakeclaimed mod abilities.

This is a nice theory, exactly the kind of theory that I often receive from my very own tinfoil hat when it's tuned to the wrong frequency.

I am not mod-enabled and I am not scum. The problem with testing your theory is that if I am lynched, we pretty much lose the game.

What if the mod-duties were granted AT RANDOM??? Knowing my own alignment, I can be certain that they were.

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What if the mod-duties were granted AT RANDOM??? Knowing my own alignment, I can be certain that they were.

huh, that syntax implies that you know that I am town.

No... where on Earth do you get that?

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I'll go with DGB or nonny.

You know Adel, if I believed your logic, and maybe I should, then you're scum.

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I'll go with DGB or nonny.

You know Adel, if I believed your logic, and maybe I should, then you're scum.

you are voting for me.

I am. I will. Until this day ends.

I suggest that the other players pick one player to lynch between Adel and myself.

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and if the town lynches me, the vig should kill DGB during the night.

That's not going to happen, because you're scum. Nice try kid.

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*sigh*

I think Adel is town.

Can we lynch Werebear?

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@DGB: what just changed your mind there?

Her tone. It seems consistent across several posts.

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Let's get out of the doldrums.

vote: Werebear

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Weather report. I am now getting solid pro-town vibes from Adel. I will jump off a cliff if she's scum and fooling me so thoroughly.

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Don't! Don't look at our interactions... it's no good. No good can come of this.

unvote, vote: Werebear

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DGB: We would all love you to come a play properly with us.

I will, I will. I'll make an effort for tomorrow.

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Werebear: Did DGB's last vote on you have anything to do with your vote?

Werebear is voting for "TDG" - there's no player with those initials here, so that the vote doesn't even count. I know it's not me because I didn't kill his father. We were lovers. He died a happy man, in the arms of his true love. All we wanted is to make each other's dreams come true. Do you know that today would have been his birthday?

Werebear looked at the interactions between Adel and myself (despite my warnings) and unbelievably, found someone scummier than either of us.

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Once again, Axelrod is town.

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Hi all. I'm still happy with my vote on logic, but in order to back it up a little more convincingly and gather my thoughts on most likely partners I am going to give some quality time to this game tomorrow.

What about Werebear??? We can't suffer him to live.

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Right now my gut and logic leads me to believe it's a axel-tally pairing.

Not in a million years. Axel is town. You have now set my scumdar on fire.

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Right now my gut and logic leads me to believe it's a axel-tally pairing.

Not in a million years. Axel is town. You have now set my scumdar on fire.

unless Axel is bussing Nonny, but I will take an accurate lynch whichever way it comes.

I don't think Axel is bus'ing.

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DGB, how about giving reasons for stuff instead of saying "so and so is town" "so and so is scum" why not share your insights with us then? hmmm?

No scumbag would make the kind of posts he just made. Perhaps I'm easily fooled that way. But I think he's town.

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Where does Werebear fit in your gut groups, Adel?

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Maybe both nony and Werebear are scum... nonny especially, she's voting for the player I find towniest so far. And Werebear OMGUS'ing me, not doing much else but sit on the fence.

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Maybbbbbbbeeeeeee

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Axelrod is on my townie town town list.

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Adel, Werebear seems to be missing from your assessment.

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nonny, would you vote to lynch Werebear?

Werebear, would you be willing to lynch nonny?

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Werebear? Your turn.

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unvote, vote: nonny

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Axel is town. There's a couple of sentences in there I like.

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Most sure of WB...

Me too, but that wagon has no steam.

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Good points, Tally.

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Sure, claim.

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Just as I thought, another vanilla.

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I'm alive.

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Well. We didn't kill any scum. Sincerest apologies to my town buddies.

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Who else was town? Just me and Axelrod... ah well, at least I knew Axelrod was town.

I also guess we were too outscummed to be succesful at lynching Werebear.

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DrippingGoofball, I don't understand your statement. I was town. You (supposedly) are town. Why was "lynch werebear" a goal for you? Part of the reason Axelrod, our local vigilante, decided to kill me was because of you. Thus allowing the scum to win.

OH YEAH

You were town...

OMG DGB Epic Fail