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In post 14, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hi Beck. You roll town?
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I mean yeah I see the 3 types of dinosaurs but I don't automatically assume that means 3 factions. I mean maybe if we were in a mini or a large game, but last I checked micros usually don't have more than 2 scum so 3 factions with 9 people don't really make sense unless their are just 2 SKs and no mafia.
i'd rather not go off assumptions like that this early.Beck =/= The band
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In post 55, Scripten wrote:Grib had role flavor that suggested it, if he's not lying. I'm calling null until later.
interesting because my role pm doesn't suggest my alignment has anything to do with the type of dinosaur I am...Beck =/= The band
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In post 61, Scripten wrote:Yup, only seven quotes' worth of content to reply to.
why do you think you needed to reply to everything? that is not how you played in some of your previous games so curious why you did so in this game? To me it looks like you are trying to hard.
In post 61, Scripten wrote:"Oh, nothing stood out about those two players." Noncommittal as hell.
Pretty sure saying 2 players are not scum is being committal, it's probably the most committal a person can be...
In post 61, Scripten wrote:but how about something a little more substantial?
no,
In post 61, Scripten wrote:Btw, I gave you reasons why I switched my vote over.
umm, actually no you didn't. You gave absolutely no reason why you voted me.
In post 61, Scripten wrote:Got anything other than "Ooh, that post was scummy because reasons!" and OMGUS to justify the counter-vote?
figure you would try and discredit my vote as omgus. My reason for voting you is because right now you are the most scummy person in the game and I don't see your play 1. mirroring your town play in other games I just read and 2. I don't see any of your posts coming from a town mindset.Beck =/= The band
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In post 63, Scripten wrote:Because... I wanted to. Also, are you going to seriously police the way I play each of my games? And call me a tryhard? Wow.
I don't consider what I did policing, I consider it meta diving. I saw you post something that struck me as odd and I wanted to see how you played in other games.
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1. Am I committed to them? Sure for right now. Doesn't mean as the game progresses they won't say or do something scummy.
2. That's not really true, I was commenting on things going on in the game, they just happened to be about setup, cause somebody brought the setup up.I was trying to show they were wrong. I suggest you read more carefully next time you roll scum and you play with me
3. I'll give you a specific example. The thing I said about my role pm, you said yours was the same yet you are arguing that grib's role pm somehow contained flavor that contradicts your own supposedly town role pm and you didn't question it. That's not a town mindset thing to do imoBeck =/= The band
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In post 68, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think he has a scum PM.
I think he used the intro flavour to guess that townies would be Herbivores based on the colours used in the intro post.
Meh, that looks like town confusion to me.Beck =/= The band
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In post 70, Scripten wrote:Anything in specific you can pick out that suggest this?
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In post 70, Scripten wrote:Why is this alignment-indicative?
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In post 76, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 29, Grib wrote:All I know is that non-Herbivores must die.
More votes on the fleshchewer BBT.
And for the record, I have been in a micro on this site with a scumteam and a Serial Killer.
This post is the one I really dislike Scripten.
It's like 'Well, I'm town and I'm a herbivore, so everyone else needs to die'.
But it seems scum are omnivores, so if he were scum don't you think he would know a town carnivore would speak up?
I will concede bringing up the idea of scum/3rd party does concern me a little but seeing him explain how he got there calmed those concernsBeck =/= The band
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In post 83, Scripten wrote:What's not really true? What you're saying here says nothing to contradict what I said about your play.
It actually does though, you tried yo imy like I was avoiding talking about the game by instead talking about setups. Thats obviously not true. I would even call it a outright lie.Beck =/= The band
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In post 94, Scripten wrote:You took my vote for WAY more than it initially was, then. I said, when I voted you:
I didn't take your vote for anything, cause I'm not concerned about your voteBeck =/= The band
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In post 94, Scripten wrote:Up to that point, you had done nothing but talk game setup and make one comment about a couple of players that wasn't very committal at all. Tell me how that's a lie? The way you're reacting makes me feel like you're a lot more threatened by my vote than you should be.
That's because there was nothing else to talk about at the time, it was game relevant content and I was involving myself in the conversation as it was so early in.the game and nobody else was really posting.
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Yeah, voting a scummy player is bad play....OK
I never omgus'd you, you can keep saying that if you want but it's just not true.
Don't criticize my play again, I consider it an insult and insulting my play is insulting me and thankfully we have a mod who has rules that strictly forbid this kind of thing.
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In post 109, Scripten wrote:I will play as I feel is necessary. If you have a problem with that, then either replace out, blacklist me, or what-have-you. You can stop trying to bully me, however. It will not work.
Yeah about that
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In post 107, Grib wrote:Beck is being way too self-defensive and his vote on Scripten is super weak. If BBT flips scum, Beck dies next.
Beck hasn't been defensive at all, unless you consider me saying I'm not being defensive as being defensive.Beck =/= The band
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In post 62, Beck wrote:My reason for voting you is because right now you are the most scummy person in the game and I don't see your play 1. mirroring your town play in other games I just read and 2. I don't see any of your posts coming from a town mindset.
I didn't respond because I had already gave reasons why I voted you. Reading is fundamentalBeck =/= The band
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I'm not creating a straw man, and calling a spade a spade isn't insulting him. If he got offended then I'm sorry but I said I would respond to the rest of his post later. He had 3 other parts of his post left to respond to, and I numbered by posts 1, 2, 3 to corelate with his 3 remaining posts in order. He even acknowledged he knew what posts I was responding to in a future post, so he had no reason to ask me to quote his posts, he did that for effect.
Now maybe dense is the wrong word, difficult fits better. He was being difficult on purpose.
I could quote more, but quoting his entire ISO seems like a waste of time so I won't bother. I don't see a single protown thought or action in any of his posts.
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you want some highlights? I'll give you some highlights.
In the below quote he is saying that he believes grib had role related info that suggests herbivores = town and carnivores = scum
In post 55, Scripten wrote:Grib had role flavor that suggested it,if he's not lying. I'm calling null until later.
1. the mod already confirmed that isn't true. The mod confirmed that flavor is flavor and herbivore doesn't mean one alignment or another.
2. I stated that in my role pm there is nothing that suggests what type of dinosaur has any correlation to my alignment and Scripten said his was the same.
In post 61, Scripten wrote:In post 60, Beck wrote:
In post 55, Scripten wrote:
Grib had role flavor that suggested it, if he's not lying. I'm calling null until later.
interesting because my role pm doesn't suggest my alignment has anything to do with the type of dinosaur I am...
Neither did mine, but Grib's summary of the role flavor seemed reasonable. Didn't feel too alignment-indicative.
Town scrip, if he honestly thought grib was telling the truth about his role pm would think grib was full of shit because that contradicts what his own role PM says.
So that leaves me to draw 1 of 2 conclusions. 1. that scrip is scum and inadvertently slipped or 2. scrip is actually town and he is really naive.
I don't see naivety coming from scrip so i'm content hedging my bets on #1.
Not to mention post 51 still comes off as fake and his subsequent post 55 appears like he's scrambling to do something to make himself look town. Not to mention he said I was non-committal when I clearly stated I though 2 players were town which directly contradicts that statement. Town would not see a player make such a statement and then accuse them of being noncommittal in my opinion..Beck =/= The band
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In post 123, Grib wrote:Is this what we're talking about?
no I meant this
In post 83, Scripten wrote:Beck: Could you quote the parts of my posts you are replying to, please? It makes it easier to follow the flow of conversation
and I don't care if you dismiss my vote, just know that when he flips scum you owe me an apology or something, assuming you aren't his scum buddy which is still possible but not likely. I don't typically see scum buddies defending themselves this early in a game.Beck =/= The band
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In post 126, Grib wrote:The whole Herbivores = town thing was a mistake. I happened to get a town role (green) and an Herbivore (also green in this game) and the flavor suggests I hate Omnivores and Carnivores
Which flavor suggests this, role pm or game?Beck =/= The band
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In post 141, Scripten wrote:I'm surprised his overreaction, cross-vote, and attempts to coerce my play weren't scumread harder by the rest of the town.
Still never overreacted, tbh I didn't even react but please 1. since you keep saying I've overreacted, link it for me.
2. Cross votes aren't scummy, especially when the person had already called you out first
3. I never tried to coerce anything, why do you insist on lying?Beck =/= The band
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OH I GET IT NOW... Because I voted you, that is me overreacting and flailing?
yes I did call you out -In post 54, Beck wrote:scripten's wait a second post is weird.
trying to get you to follow the game and site rules is not coercion but nice try...
The part about me using meta to push you to play this game a certain way is such a fucking stretch, all I did was point out that your play isn't how you normally play. That isn't forcing you to play a certain way, that's showing that you have committed what I consider as a pretty reliable scumtell.
I know you are going to keep saying I cross voted you, and of course that is what it looks like and you are going to continue to harp on that like it actually means something (which it doesn't) but let me explain how I arrived at my decision to vote you.
After you made post 51 and I called that post weird, I quickly opened up all your completed games and started reading your posts in iso. It was then that i determined that your entrance into this game is nothing like the entrances into your other town games. So I came back to the tab and posted my vote. During the time I did my research you voted me but I didn't see your vote at the time, I didn't actually see your vote until I hit post and I got the preview edit notifying me that a new post had been made.
I don't expect you to believe me because you are scum, but that's the truth so now people know that when you say I OMGUS'd you or I cross voted you they will know it's a lie.
I do agree that this back and forth is unproductive. Scum is you and grib. This was a pretty easy game to figure out.
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I mean he knows grib's role pm directly contradicts the pm he supposedly has, yet he believes grib is telling the truth amd isn't suspicious about it.
Town would be suspicious of that, whenever somebody contradicts a town role pm, that means the person is lying.
The alternative would mean that script is being naive but I dont see that as a possibility.
P.edit - By default yes, not by their playBeck =/= The band
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My role pm says nothing about carnivores or omnivores being a threat. You says yours does. The mod has confirmed that scum can be any type, even a herbivore.
Its a direct contradiction to my own and to what we know about the setup.
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In post 160, Grib wrote:It doesn't say they're a threat, it says I hate them. Iperceivedthem to be the threats against town, because I'm an Herbivore, and I'm town.
Get it?
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Right and that's all I'm doing. Nothing about my play is bad, nothing about my play warrants the comment you just made about me.
You are the one who has falsely accused me of overreacting/flailing and when asked for an example can't be botherd to come up with one.
You are the same person who sees a player say their role pm directly contradicts what yours says, yet you don't find that suspicious and instead you find the person who's pointed it out suspicious.
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In post 66, Beck wrote:post 63, Scripten wrote:
Because... I wanted to. Also, are you going to seriously police the way I play each of my games? And call me a tryhard? Wow.
I mean if you want to accuse someone for overreacting, why not deal with your own overreacting? Somebody decides to meta you and this is your response? A townie doesn't get mad or accuse somebody of "policing their play" because they did their due diligence to determine your alignment.
That is a classic overreaction.
Now humor me and show 1 post where I overreacted, I guarantee you can't find one.Beck =/= The band
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In post 164, Pine wrote:Beck, FFS. You really don't need to respond to every single post personally. Put the smartphone down for a couple hours, then come back and respond to stuff directed at you and stuff you find interesting. I swear, you're half the reason Rolling in the Deep went over 150 pages (the other half was me and Slandaar)
I play how I play, I can't control my frequency, especially since most of my posts are responding to things directed at meBeck =/= The band
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After pine responds, I'll give my .02Beck =/= The band
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Those aren't buddyingBeck =/= The band
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In post 18, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Sweet, that was easy.
Beck come on over to the town block.
Surprised Scripten didn't reply...I know he worries about his early D1 play being bad. You scared I'll sniff you out Scripten?
I mean if we want to call out posts that look like buddying, one only has to look at this post. This could easily be considered but trying to buddy me. Knowing how I play, its always better to have me on your side anywayBeck =/= The band
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Scripten, if you are town, please explain why are we not getting this guy?
In post 18, Scripten wrote:My play-style tends toward open logic and honesty, so I will generally give justification for my decisions within the post itself. I will respond to any questions to the best of my abilityBeck =/= The band
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1. Not that quickly
2. You were on both scum lynches so your play wasn't that bad obviously
3. It's trying to understand why you arent playing the way you self describe as your playstyle. In case I was somehow wrong about you I want to know why the play style change.Beck =/= The band
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In post 200, insanity018 wrote:How did Beck's mistake that omnivores=scum
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