Micro 407: Jurassic Park Mafia - Game Over

[FinnLaw]

Well no I don't want it in that I believe thats the wrong vote. But at least its you moving your vote off of the potential town PR, if it moves to me for the time being so be it.

[Scripten]

VOTE: Grib

Still not sure why this wagon hasn't taken off. Also not sure why Beck and BBT are suddenly onto their own vanity wagons, considering they both agree that a Grib lynch is a good enough idea today. It makes me sad and lonely.

[Beck]

I'm not joining any wagon you endorse.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Beck is scummier than Grib Scripten.

Join the Beck wagon please.

[Beck]

How on earth am I scummy?

[Beck]

VOTE: Yung

This guy is lurking pretty hard. I want him to do something.

So let me get this straight, lurking is an OK reason to lynch someone but lynching a lurker who only started posting after getting called out for it is s bad reason?

That makes no sense...

Response to this also please.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The reasoning behind that vote is stated in that very post you quoted.

Would I have lynched him solely on him lurking? No. I wanted him to start posting and I wanted him to answer my question.

[ArcAngel9]

VOTE COUNT - 1.7

Scripten-

Beck

BlueBloodedToffee-

Grib, Pine

Grib-

Scripten ,

Beck-

FinnLaw, BlueBloodedToffee

Pine-

FinnLaw-

Majiffy-

, Mathdino, insanity018,

Not Voting

Majiffy,,

With 9 alive it takes 5 for a lynch and 4 for no lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2014-11-05 09:36:00)

Pine is on V/LA till Tuesday morning.
Deadline adjusted to additonal 24 hours due to the replacement delay

[Beck]

so since you didn't answer that question, I went over your posts to see why exactly you are voting me.

"Beck is anti-town at the very, very best and scummy at worst. "

- This came right after you voted me, it also doesn't really say anything other than you want to policy lynch me because you don't really say what is scummy and a few posts previous you called myself and scripten Town v Town and the only thing that happened is my continued stance that i didn't want to change my vote.

"Beck wants to lynch you. He knows there is a chance you're a PR. He decides to go ahead and keep pushing your lynch anyway.

No matter how you look at that, it's scummy behaviour and it's scum-motivated."

- You say "no matter how you look at it" that is factually wrong. I have proved it is wrong with that game link I provided. Town saw a scummy player claim a PR on day 1 and instead of giving him time to prove himself, they lynched him and he flipped scum. So their are circumstances where what i am doing is considered acceptable play.

There's nothing town about what he's doing.

False - see above response

"Yeah, can you imagine that? Scum just tunnelling on someone who they know full well will not be getting lynched. Then whatever other wagons form you can just stay away from them, use the reasoning that you had 'found scum' and not come under any pressure or VCA.

Yeah. What a crazy thought."

This is wrong on so many levels


So basically your reasons are shit and your biggest reason was proved wrong. You think town would never push a claimed PR when he can prove himself and I have shown town lynching a claimed PR when he could have proven himself.


Later today I will go find the 10 more games like I promised to prove to you even more that my continued push on scripten is not scummy. Pushing to lynch your top scum read and ignoring a BS soft claim is not scummy

[Beck]

ok that may take longer than expected. I just looked at 14 games where scum was lynched day 1 and almost none of the scum claimed. I saw 1 where the SK was lynched and he claimed SK 1 game where scum claimed bomb, and another claimed VT. The rest no claims at all.

[Grib]

It

is

fucking scummy because he claims he can prove it.

Why don't you get this.

[ArcAngel9]

Dinosaur Facts:

Do you know that not all dinosaurs are oviparous, some are viviparours and some are ovoviviparous.

viviparous:	giving birth to live young
oviparous:	egg-laying
ovoviviparous:	giving birth to live young that initially grew within eggs inside the mother

[Scripten]

Beck:

This is totally ridiculous. Assuming you are town, scum are hiding behind your play, Beck, do you get that? Everyone here knows what you are saying. They disagree. Move on. Your posts will still be there later on. Repeating yourself just wastes time. Let's pretend I'm scum and I am just BSing through today. Lynch me tomorrow and you still have several days to catch my theoretical scumbuddy.

By the way, the whole "I'm not voting for anyone you vote for" is kind of the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a game of mafia. Even discounting bussing, the absolute conviction that you are 100% right is so anti-town it's not funny. If I were scum, I could play you like a goddamn fiddle with that and lock up a wagon on my scumbuddy. That said, nothing is going to change your mind.

Everyone else:

Can we work on scumhunting elsewhere? Beck is not going to listen to anyone else, so we need to ignore him for now and work on solving the game without him.

Pine:

Where do you stand on all this? Can you give some idea of your scumreads?

[Beck]

It

is

fucking scummy because he claims he can prove it.

Why don't you get this.

Its not though, it town believes every soft claim, scum would never get lynched.

I get you don't share my opinion, just like I don't share yours but scum HAVE gotten lynched while fake claiming that means town players exsist that share my opinion. Saying my opinion is scummy is factually wrong cause I have proved it wrong

[Scripten]

You do realize that it's a soft claim with the stipulation that I prove it on Day 2 and that the stipulation changes things, right?

[Beck]

It changes nothing for me, but carry on

[Grib]

Its not though, it town believes every soft claim, scum would never get lynched.

Irrelevant. Scripten is not going to coast on his softclaim alone, which you know but don't seem to care about it.

but scum HAVE gotten lynched while fake claiming that means town players exsist that share my opinion. Saying my opinion is scummy is factually wrong cause I have proved it wrong

Context is important, Beck. Your opinion in this specific scenario is scummy, and on top of that, objectively wrong. In fact it's so bad, I'm embarrassed to be townreading you.

The only thing I want proven is whether or not Scripten is a lying sack of garbage, which will be revealed toMorrow. Or not. Either way there will be no Scripten lynch toDay. You are wasting everyone's time with your bullshit. Votepark him if you want, just. Stop talking. Nobody is buying it.

(Note that if Beck does somehow flip scum, no, you will not get an apology, because your mindset is still completely wrong and I don't care for it.)

Can we get back to lynching BBT now? Or anyone, really? At this point I probably wouldn't even have the energy to fight a Grib lynch much, I've already posted all my thoughts.

[Grib]

(Note that if

Scripten

does somehow flip scum [...])

fixed dumb error

[Beck]

You are wasting everyone's time with your bullshit.

So stop talking to me, stop trying to change my mind.

Focus on the other 7 players in the game and convince them to vote bbt

[Grib]

>stop trying to change my mind
>in a game of mafia

Whatever.

[Beck]

You are wasting everyone's time with your bullshit.

You just said I was wasting peoples time with my bullshit, but my bullshit has come from people trying to change my mind.

You can't make that comment above and then make then one you just made...

[Pine]

Scripten - still V/LA. I've been skimming along, but don't generally have time for comprehensive participation until tomorrow, when my limited access ends.

Town-Beck, Scripten, probably mathdino
Null-Insanity, Majiffy
Generally suspicious-Grib, FinnLaw (don't like the unproductive wallposts)
Probably scum-BBT

Pretty sure scum is coasting their way to a mislynch under the moronic Scripten vs Beck battle

I could happily settle for a Grib lynch, the BBT wagon is suspiciously quiet

Beck, your head is currently lodged very firmly in your ass. You've got one of the worst cases of tunneling and confirmation bias I've ever seen. You need to take a step back and question your assumptions. Scum would probably not work so incredibly hard at convincing you

Unvote
Vote: Grib

Let's do this. There's a lot for us to sift through during D2

[Majiffy]

Am I in this now? I see my name on the VC but I don't think I've gotten a role PM yet.

[Majiffy]

Wait no nevermind there it is.

[Majiffy]

Ok I'll read this later.