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Okay, so I'm not going to comment on Ceph's posts until he finishes like I promised. But I want to bring attention to AP's post that so far two people have said that they loved:
In post 1267, Cephrir wrote:In post 380, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 298, Solar Wind wrote:AP, please tell me you are kidding and not that you are scum again ready to mudsling into oblivion.
I'm not really sure how to respond to this, F16. You telling Tammy that you want to sort them is basically a non-statement. At least to me. The only potential reason I can see myself ever saying that is to try and look invested as scum. I'm not saying you are the same, cause you aren't, but from my PoV its just white-noise and it'd be refreshing to actually see a game in general where people don't just buddy up to people they like for better or worse. Stick your toes in the lake!, run through the sand barefoot! You don't have to always sit under the same tree and tell it that you really want to read it correctly this game. I dunno. Maybe I'm just the odd one out cause I like doing my own thing and I find it annoying when people (notably Especially the Lies) get pissy when I dont interact with them because we know each other. If you say things I find interesting or weird, I'll interact with you! Welp I wrote way too much about this since I don' even think the post in question is really relevant to your alignment in the first place.
This is better.In post 533, T S O wrote:In post 380, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 298, Solar Wind wrote:AP, please tell me you are kidding and not that you are scum again ready to mudsling into oblivion.
I'm not really sure how to respond to this, F16. You telling Tammy that you want to sort them is basically a non-statement. At least to me. The only potential reason I can see myself ever saying that is to try and look invested as scum. I'm not saying you are the same, cause you aren't, but from my PoV its just white-noise and it'd be refreshing to actually see a game in general where people don't just buddy up to people they like for better or worse. Stick your toes in the lake!, run through the sand barefoot! You don't have to always sit under the same tree and tell it that you really want to read it correctly this game. I dunno. Maybe I'm just the odd one out cause I like doing my own thing and I find it annoying when people (notably Especially the Lies) get pissy when I dont interact with them because we know each other. If you say things I find interesting or weird, I'll interact with you! Welp I wrote way too much about this since I don' even think the post in question is really relevant to your alignment in the first place.
This needs to be quoted somewhere, maybe hung up on a banner, maybe inscribed on a large stature beside the town hall.
Same post. Both Ceph and TSO seemed to have liked it and I love to know why.
I'll break down my issues with the post here:
1)You telling Tammy that you want to sort them is basically a non-statement.
This ignores context. This is in reference to my Post 77. This was a continuation of Ffery's Post 74 and was also meant to be a response to the interaction that I was having with Tammy up until that point. If this post was so scummy to AP, how did he completely ignore Ffery's Post 74 and Tammy's Post 53 which essentially do the same thing? He is selectively scumhunting by only picking at things he wants. Because if AP is town who legitimately believes that this is a non-statement, then he surely would have commented on these two posts as well as "non-statements."
In post 53, Imperium wrote:I hope so! And I hope if so we find each other early and can work together. Ffery and I keep saying that we need to work together sooner when we're town reading each other to wreck scum teams. And I was telling Bulbazack last night that I haven't been happy with most of my town games from the past year and need to fix some of the things that have been bringing it down, and I'm hoping this is one of the games that I can turn some of that stuff around in.In post 74, Solar Wind wrote:Am I the only one who's not concerned? I didn't come into the game expecting to nail a read on Imperium down during confirmation stage. If you're town I want to figure it out quickly, though because I'd like to finally steamroll scum with you, Tammy.
2)it'd be refreshing to actually see a game in general where people don't just buddy up to people they like for better or worse.
This is also pretty much nonsense. Saying that if someone is town, I want to figure it out quickly is not "buddying." People that know each other try to sort each other early. There's nothing odd or unusual about it. Also, if AP had an issue with my post, why does he not see the "buddying" that is inherent in Post 53? I disagree that it is buddying but from AP's definition, it should be - to him. So, there's more selective scumhunting and rhetoric.
3)Stick your toes in the lake!, run through the sand barefoot! You don't have to always sit under the same tree and tell it that you really want to read it correctly this game.
Three issues with it. a) That's not what was happening. I was interacting with whoever was in the thread at the time. b) Tammy was the one responding to my post. c) Selective scumhunting that I mentioned earlier in that somehow Tammy wanting to sort me early escapes his notice entirely.
The rest of his post is filled with an irrelevant analogy about ETL and doing his own thing. He finishes by saying it is not relevant to my aligment. He has to. He can't repeat Tales of You by the book.
Now, I'm thinking either AP is scum or dumb town and some of the people agreeing with this horrendously bad analysis are scum. I would LOVE for TSO and Ceph to explain what they liked about this post.-
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In post 1273, The Mask wrote:In post 1257, Solar Wind wrote:Mask, do you have a posting restriction?
Am I smarter than both your heads combined?
I'm wondering why every single one of your posts contains an explicit or implicit insult to the person you're responding to or responding about.
I read a completed game (from last year, so probably not all that relevant to your approach here), and the snark wasn't as pronounced.-
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And really, I put up with your crap this far because I thought at some point we'll get the old Tammy who was a fun person to be around back. I wouldn't have put up with this shit if it was anyone else. But I realized that's never going to happen so I give up. And pointing out how you treated me the past few games isn't telling you that you suck.-
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I hope you are happy that you got to me.Nothingthat I said in the wall was untrue and offensive. I hope you are happy to know that I actually was bothered by all your insults and condescension. I hope you are happy to know that yes, you have the ability to genuinely make someone else feel like crap. I hope it made you feel powerful and strong for it. I can't believe I actually thought you were a genuinely nice and understanding person when I first played with you and in the games that followed and knowing you has taught me how fucked up my moral compass is and terrible I'm at judging people's personalities. So, thank you for teaching me that. Thank you for being an awesome person to me at first and making me like you and showing your true colors.-
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In post 1281, RachMarie wrote:Not voting:theaceofspades,ZZZX, Solar Wind, VysePresident
Deadline a little over a week!
Why are you not voting?
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You seem to be awfully focused on Imperium What about the rest of the crew here? Personally I feel the froo froo tween the two hydrae is definitely T v T and a distraction here. Girls, girls you are both pretty. We need to get a handle on others.
I need to ISO FT did he really say multiple neighborhoods? I am only in one and I doubt the mod would put us in more than one.
Imperium's alignment was sorted practically during the confirmation phase. This isn't about alignments unfortunately.
TheAceOfSpades is the one who said something about multiple neighborhoods, I think. And clarified that he wasn't talking about this game, but about neighborhoods in general or something.
Unless I missed something. I've been pretty out of it with a migraine the last couple of days.
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I don't hate you. If you are wondering what it was you did that bothered me as much, you could just read my wall. There's nothing in there that I regret typing or I didn't feel was a direct response to something you did. I may have been more abrasive than necessary but I'm fairly certain you would have been offended no matter how much I sugarcoated my thoughts so I was being honest.
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Also, fwiw, you said BEFORE my wall that you weren't going to post in the neighborhood, not after. I assume it was because of the exchange between us which basically went:
F-16: I can read AP well.
Tammy: I don't understand the question.
F-16: There was no question.
Tammy: I get that but I was giving you an opportunity to exercise the privilege of interacting with me.
At that point, I had no intention of discussing shit so I didn't. And then you decided not to post. If you had simply asked me "how do you read AP?" or "give me some of the markers that use to read AP." I would have obliged.-
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In post 1305, vezokpiraka wrote:@tammy: grow thicker skin and stop making everything about yourelf.
@falcon: stop pestering tammy. It's a damn game. If you want to troll people go on 4chan.
I'm done posting anything more. But please don't do this. This is not actually helpful mediation.-
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Tammy,
I know you said you wouldn't post in the neighborhood again, but since this is mostly non-game-related stuff between you and f-16, it might be better to hash it out there and not make the rest of the game read it today.
I don't think anything's being said that helps people read either of our slots.
But, mostly I'd just like to get back to trying to figure this game out. Preferably with input from you as well as Nacho.-
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In post 1311, Imperium wrote:Um no. It went me talking to you about AP. Me saying I can't read him well and don't know what to look for because I've only seen him as town once and that was Anything Goes where he spammed the hell out of the game. You responded that you couldn't understand why I was hesitant to read AP because he's so easy to read. I did give you the opportunity to turn it into a conversation by saying that I didn't know what you were asking me because it didn't follow. You told me you couldn't understand why I didn't have a read there because he's easy to read, right after I said I don't know how to read him. You were telling me what to think. I asked for ffery's thoughts, which you wouldn't give me and said she'd respond even though I'd told you what Nacho and I had discussed, so why you couldn't talk about those thoughts when you're so incredulous I didn't have a read there didn't make sense to me.
It became clear that you weren't actually going to talk to me but tell me what to think.
You misinterpreted this completely. I figured if you were trying to work with me on AP, you would try and see where I was coming from since you know I was right in Tales when you weren't. You didn't. I wasn't telling you what to think. I wanted you to listen to me. My initial comment wasn't even meant for just you. It was a remark of my annoyance that people are townreading AP for bad reasons like writing walls. It is just that you are determined to be offended by what I say.
In post 1308, Imperium wrote:In post 1303, Solar Wind wrote:I don't hate you. If you are wondering what it was you did that bothered me as much, you could just read my wall. There's nothing in there that I regret typing or I didn't feel was a direct response to something you did. I may have been more abrasive than necessary but I'm fairly certain you would have been offended no matter how much I sugarcoated my thoughts so I was being honest.
I can agree not to argue about it anymore so this game can be peaceful.
I did read the wall. I got it. I suck, you can read me better than I can read you, I word things wrong, I don't know how to reachout properly and do it in a way that hurts other people's feelings, and I'm the reason town lost Tales of and if I weren't there town would have won. Think I got the gist of just how much I suck!
Thank you for your honesty!
I'm sorry but don't play the high moral ground with me. I wouldn't have listed out the games where I read you correctly if you hadn't addressed me in the mocking tone that you have. If you had just said that I should be able to read you, I woudn't have felt the need to PROVE that I can read you.
You can lie to me about the reachout being for both Ffery and me but you can't lie to yourself. You know that you wanted to work with Ffery and just wanted to leave that in there hoping that it would bother me. And really wrecking scum was what we used to do.
I also wouldn't have said all that about Tales if you hadn't said the things that you did when AP was mudslinging and zMuffin was raging.
In post 1309, Imperium wrote:In post 1305, vezokpiraka wrote:@tammy: grow thicker skin and stop making everything about yourelf.
@falcon: stop pestering tammy. It's a damn game. If you want to troll people go on 4chan.
There's literally a 50,000 word unprovoked essay dedicated to the tune of Tammy sucks in my neighborhood.
It wasn't unprovoked. It was a response to your response to my wall in the game thread which in turn was a response to your concerns about me.-
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I stand by what I said about you egging on zMuffin and AP in Tales by piling on the insults and agreeing with zMuffin's characterization of my playstyle and insulting my townplay to AP while explaining to him that I was town among a ton of other things.
I stand by my comments on you calling me names right after I replaced into Serum and Steel even though I was genuinely pretending to scumhunt you and not trying to piss you off. That ties into the general idea you have that you are allowed to scumhunt people but if anyone questions you, they are horrible.
I still stand by the fact that you were needlessly condescending in the dead PT of Mafia on the Air but I admit I was probably spoiled by Mastin's encouragement in Tales of You dead PT and learned to expect that people will cheer you and support you in dead PTs so your posts came as a shock. I still didn't expect that the worst criticisms would come from someone who was hydra'ing with me.
I stand by the fact that I wasn't unjustified to be pissed off at you when you addressed me in that mocking tone and shoehorned Malakittens's method of reading you when my track record at reading you is pretty fucking awesome. And I wouldn't have pulled up a list of games if you hadn't done that.-
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And FYI, it wasn't unprompted. It was the result of you saying that you wouldn't post in the neighborhood again AFTER we had resolved our argument and apologized just because something else I said offended you in a new and creative way. I'm sick and tired of feeling like every single thing I say would offend you. I don't seem to be the only one as you have a track record of replacing out of games at the slightest offense. And yes, I know the pattern is continuing. I did read the game where you almost caught Thor and Orc had to come and lead the lynch for you.-
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In post 1345, Cephrir wrote:You say this like you expect Rach to immediately back down and defer to you. I kinda want to ask if that's the case, but actually it has very little to do with my read of you or her, so I guess it's neither here nor there... you can still answer if you feel like it though!
I usually speak up when one of my townreads takes a "he's scum" position on another townread. Offhand I can't remember evernotspeaking up unless the player's case for their vote made me want to soak on it or rethink.
I wanted her to know I disagreed with that vote. I'd hope she would take my opinion into account. I was leaning pretty strongly town on bitmap, mostly due to stuff he posted in the game thread, though his posts in the neighborhood were more reasons to think he's town.
In post 1345, Cephrir wrote:I would love it if you would be more of a presence for a variety of reasons.
I was a strong presence until about 3 calendar days ago, I think. My migraine started calming down just in time for yesterday's blow-up. :/
f-16 and I both plan to work on reads lists today.
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I hadn't posted for hours up until that point.-
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I don't see how you can read the past few pages and make the conclusion you did as opposed to telling us both to stop (which while lame is what I would a normal person to do like two other players did), or ignore it entirely which would have been preferable. Your post just felt like discrediting and manipulating what happened to scum advantage.-
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In post 1374, Cephrir wrote:You won't take "you don't want me to explain" for an answer?
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I keep thinking about stuff that could make sense like multiple neighborhoods and stuff but none of it is actually making sense. You came in and posted just to me (when I hadn't posted for hours), at odds with the two other people who intervened in the conflict and pretty much exactly what you did in Tales, but contrasted with what you did in Serum and Steel. So, yeah, I'm pretty intent on getting you to explain it and I think you understand why I'm pushing on it and why I think I could glean something about your alignment from it. So, just explain it and don't make us go back and forth for another whole page. And you know if I didn't think it was alignment relevant, I probably would have dropped the issue a while ago when you first wanted to drop it.-
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You've played in all the games that I've mentioned. There is literally no way you could come away with an impression that I was being a dick. Unless you think replacing out of multiple games at the same time because they got frustrated means that person causing the frustration is a dick. It happens in mafia all the time. Tales is self-explanatory really.-
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Players of SMITE Role Madness, pick the odd one out. I even separated them with spaces.
In post 1305, vezokpiraka wrote:@tammy: grow thicker skin and stop making everything about yourelf.
@falcon: stop pestering tammy. It's a damn game. If you want to troll people go on 4chan.In post 1310, RachMarie wrote:Tammy then talk to Dram about it he is the mod, bringing it up here in the game does not help us figure out who the scum is. All it is doing is causing drama since we can't see it unless we are in the same neighborhood. I understand why you are upset, but we really need to focus on the game.In post 1314, Xombie wrote: I want to comment on something unrelated to diffuse but yeah, I got nothin. SoooIn post 1325, iHouse wrote:Solarwind/Imperium dust up could be scum distancing to justify not interacting.
I don't see these players going to such measures as town. Granted, I don't know their playstyle that much so that's kinda weak, but they're both experienced veterans and know better than to be so blatantly hostile to this extent... I think.
Would somebody that knows them better chime in on this?In post 1327, VysePresident wrote:Halfway through reading the game. Not even going to pretend to offer something useful. I hope the hydra battle is distancing, because the alternative is really depressing.In post 1338, farside22 wrote:You may want to skim some of that back and forth.
In post 1336, Cephrir wrote:Jesus falcon. Stop.In post 1349, Cephrir wrote:In post 1347, Solar Wind wrote:Was there something specific you wanted?
Not really, I just think you'd be easier to deal with at present because you aren't throwing a fit and S&S has taught me not to even try reading F-16.-
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I have no clue if Ceph is town or scum at this point. I believe his posting was genuine though. So, if he's town, he's telling the truth and if he's scum, he's telling the truth.
I had no idea you had a grudge against me though Cephrir. I was pretty excited to see you join the game and was looking forward to seeing you as town. But if you did, you could just avoid me if you want.-
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In post 1359, Cephrir wrote:I don't know, I'm basically not played against ffery scum. I really want to though, I've always wanted to try my hand at catching her.
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First off I want to point out that the T-word has been slandering me hoping that people will dislike me which is what she wants. Why the fuck can't she just go her own way and leave me the hell alone? I used to think Ceph was an awesome person as well but I bet she whined to him (and others) about me over Skype and meets and that's why people are taking her side. It explains why Natirasha was unable to admit that he made a mistake with the setup in Serum and Steel. It explains why Pieguyn blamed me and me alone for our argument in Serum and Steel. It explains why even Nacho has been distant with me because repeatedly hearing shit about someone makes some of it stick.
For fucks sake, just leave me alone. After this game, we will both pretend that the other doesn't exist. Within this game, I'll only talk about you if it necessary to sort someone's alignment. I don't understand why you need to make it so that try to get everyone to hate me. Why can't we just go our own separate ways? And you think you've got it bad. Well, I'm feeling the same thing except I don't have people telling me that they love me and want me to stay. So congrats on manipulating people into thinking that this is all my fault. Your punching bag analogy applies both ways. I felt the same way when I replaced into Serum and Steel and called me attitude boy and told me not to interact with you just because I was pretending to figure out your alignment. I was scum there so I sucked it up and you can't really manipulate someone without interacting with them anyways. But Tales was the worst. I'll never forgive you for Tales and how you dealt with it afterwards. Every single time I opened the Tales thread was just to see someone I liked and respected being insulting to me in some new way it was miserable. Please just leave me alone. You don't even understand why I wrote that wall. You think I'm crazy that I'd write a wall to hurt someone else's feelings? And now you're trying to get me banned. Gee thanks. I bet Mina will do it for you because moderation is a joke anyways.-
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I'm done with this argument as long as that person doesn't pull the sympathy card again. Hey Ceph, screw off. If you hate me, then don't replace into games I'm in. I don't care if you say you don't. Just you supporting her and telling me to stop proves that you do. Same goes for anyone who thinks that she's right. If she told you anything about me, she's lying.-
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