SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

Skybird · Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:05 am

ZZZX, what are your reads on people so far?

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:00 am

Hey guys, having problems irl, don't want it to spill over in to game, but don't REALLY have time to post right now. I've looked terrible this game and this move is not going to help. I think cephrir is scum UNVOTE: VOTE: cephrir I'll try to explain this when I get back, promise.

ISO · Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:18 am

In post 1585, RachMarie wrote:(Not game related) Ceph nice to meet you and I am sure that you know my fiance NS. I LOVE your avatar that warthog ROCKS ♥

Game related

Ceph goes in my town pile for now. I do want to take a look at some of his other games, but feels pretty towny to me.

Hello! You have actually played with me once before but I wasn't me! I have played with NS a few times.

In post 1597, mastin2 wrote:
In post 1592, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1590, vezokpiraka wrote:Guys. I had a dream where this game ended and aceofspades won as scum.

This is clearly a sign he is scum.

Plus Vezok's dream.

My dreams have actually, legitimately, helped me get a read on players.
PV seems to be a popular target of said dreams, for some reason.

Well, God knows there's no *other* way to read PV, so might as well.

ooba, why am I scum, why is Rach scum, and why is ZZZX scum?

ISO · Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:19 am

Also, why are you associative hunting so much (i.e. townreading Mask just for agreeing with you)?

ISO · Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:21 am

Clarification now since Rach will probably ask and I really love revealing this: I am Chandra Nalaar!

ZZZX · Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:33 am

In post 1600, Skybird wrote:ZZZX, what are your reads on people so far?

read list + some stuff after i finish studying in 2-3 hours at least

Solar Wind · Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:39 am

In post 1553, FourTrouble wrote:What was towny about his last few posts? I don't follow that.

It's a gut thing. After looking at his completed game from a year ago, I wondered if his posts this game indicated a posting restriction. He brushed off that question, which didn't completely rule out it being a PR, but did knock down one reason I could see for his tone/content here being so different. He was not a wall poster in the other game, but his stances had more reasoning than here (aside from his stance on you - which I disagree totally with, but it's not a one-dimensional observation about your play, and you are not an easy target this game IMO, so I feel like scum looking to make a push on a player might choose easier pickings).

When someone breaks a PR pattern, the post is obviously not reworked or carefully considered. It's off the cuff, and the tone is critical because I know it's a pretty pure reaction/comment.

When I read that post and then the next one, I got town vibes.

So, he moves up from my null/null-scum pile on that basis.

Solar Wind · Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:42 am

In post 1584, RachMarie wrote:Aeronaut

You can't vote MS
or Mastin
today based on a PR action that took them both out of play for D 1.

How about putting your vote somewhere where it counts? In other words who else are you scum reading besides MS?

His PR was annoying but it does not seem like something that would be given to scum. And his action was mod confirmed. So it was not a fake claim.

Or Mastin?

Did I miss something? Bitmap is the one who took MS and himself out of the game for D1.

And how was

MS'

action confirmed? What action? Bitmap is the one who targeted MS.

Solar Wind · Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:44 am

In post 1595, mastin2 wrote:
In post 1592, PeregrineV wrote:Plus Vezok's dream.
Dreams are a legit form of scumhunting.

You didn't comment on Rach's post. What did you think she was talking about?

ISO · Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:45 am

Personlly I thought that was a pretty obvious typo.

Solar Wind · Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:46 am

There are two things in that post that don't fit what I've seen in the game state.

Solar Wind · Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:47 am

Also, grumble grumble stomping through lines of questioning grumble.

ISO · Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:53 am

Oh.

It's kind of sad that I still haven't stopped doing that. >.<

farside22 · Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:13 am

Here are the post I have in regards to why ace is scum.
started here
what I noted about his play
issues summorized

farside22 · Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:17 am

In post 1571, Aeronaut wrote:So he's obviously lying about at least one of those roles. It's not like he felt safer in the hood, he even said that he thought scum was in it a few times.

I don't see a scenario where he feels the need to fake claim early D1.

Not to mention, he explicitly tries to fake a guilty on Xombie.
Where is the town motivation for that?

He's done it before as town in another game.
So what is the scum motivation?

farside22 · Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:23 am

In post 1575, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 1572, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 1571, Aeronaut wrote:So he's obviously lying about at least one of those roles. It's not like he felt safer in the hood, he even said that he thought scum was in it a few times.

I don't see a scenario where he feels the need to fake claim early D1.

Not to mention, he explicitly tries to fake a guilty on Xombie.
Where is the town motivation for that?

What is the scum motivation for that?

Have you seriously never seen town gambit on day 1 before? Players do it to garner reactions they can analyze.

I have other reasons to be concerned about MS, but gambiting a fake guilty on day 1 isn't one of them.

Yes, because MS is very obviously a very well thought out and manipulative player.

There's more scum motivation than town motivation IMO. What was he gonna do if people believed it, get Xombie to L-1 and then say "Well, whoops, I was lying."

Nah.

You can't be this dumb.

It first never works that way. Ever.
And second no one believed ms because hey he's done it before.

In post 1594, ooba wrote:
In post 1593, ooba wrote:Scum group I can see: {Rach, FT, Cephrir, ZZZX or Pere}

Unvote. Vote: Rach

Switching to Rach from FT - because I can't see FT getting lynched today - way too many people town or even super-town reading him. I think Rach could be a decent counter wagon choice (farside, mastin) to aceofspades.

@vezok: I'm sorry if this is the reason why aceofspades isn't lynched today and he goes on to win the game.

I'm thinking but I still have this itch about spade. Granted rach' vote and reason is God awful and Pere just jumped on without a word makes my skin crawl.
That all said I need original thought coming from spade to switch off.

ISO · Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:52 am

VOTE: ace

that's 8 I think.

Solar Wind · Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:13 am

In post 1569, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 1567, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 1566, Aeronaut wrote:He just gave a soft an agreeable answer.

@Solar, well, in the neighborhood, he asks BRantz and my predecessor to claim their roles, and then hardcore avoids claiming his own. When pestered, he says Jack of all Trades, which means he can Roleblock, Protect, and superprotect, whatever that means.

He used his "daycop" to try to incriminate Xombie casually

Why, do you really think he's a daycop?

Have you never seen a gambit? Also, have you played in a game where there were day abilities before here or on another site? Have you seen town fake-claim day cops/day vigs or any other sort of day abilities for shits and giggle? I'm going to look through your games obviously but I want an answer from you.

Don't be avoiding questions.

Do you think he's a daycop?

Now that you've had your question answered, please answer mine.

Solar Wind · Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:37 am

In post 1613, farside22 wrote:Here are the post I have in regards to why ace is scum.
started here
what I noted about his play
issues summorized

I agree with your description of Ace's play but it feels more like you describing sub-optimal town play than scum play.

dramonic · Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:55 am

In post 1563, Aeronaut wrote:
Mod, am I allowed to quote things from the hood?

You do that and they will find your body in

several

dumpster, all five blocks apart.

dramonic · Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:00 am

Votecount 15: Accurate votecounts are hard.

Theaceofspades (8): AngryPidgeon, Farside22, vezokpiraka, mastin2, xombie, PeregrineV, Cephrir, Rachmarie
FourTrouble (1): The Mask, iHouse
vezokpiraka (1): Skybird
TiphaineDeath (1): FourTrouble
AngryPidgeon (1): theaceofspades
Rachmarie (1): Ooba
Cephrir (1): TiphaineDeath
iHouse (0): beastcharizard

Not voting: ZZZX, Solar Wind, VysePresident, imperium, TSO, Ankamius, Aeronaut

Reminder that it's 12 to lynch and not 13.

Deadline 6 days and 8 hours!

dramonic · Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:01 am

Congratulations to all of you, nobody has even 36 hours since last post for this votecount

Ankamius · Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:11 am

Look at his post on the same page that one appeared in. That's his entire ISO up to that point.

His ISO since then is a slight improvement, but not by a whole lot. It's nothing but saying that he's catching up and giving an excuse to not post any of his thoughts up to that point. I could excuse it if he eventually dumped all his thoughts at once when he realized he wasn't going to fully catch up, but he gave nothing. It's the type of play I'd expect scum to do when some of the town is incredibly active and there's a significant discrepancy across activity throughout the playerlist.

Ankamius · Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:11 am

I'm responding to Skybird's #1599. Somehow I didn't notice the new page.

farside22 · Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:42 am

In post 1618, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 1613, farside22 wrote:Here are the post I have in regards to why ace is scum.
started here
what I noted about his play
issues summorized

I agree with your description of Ace's play but it feels more like you describing sub-optimal town play than scum play.

How is that town play at all? I see more often scum skating by then town.