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I will lynch one of: mastin, ap, desbro
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy sir
(This also applies to kagura holy fuck have they done anything town yet! Geeze)Half troll/Half wall.
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I don't understand why mastin's read to bet the game on town me.
Oh but earlier I was thinking in context of chosen and thought maybe for weird aggression? Stil.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 3856, Titan wrote:In post 3631, PeregrineV wrote:
You make me want to vote these people.In post 3622, MastinSSK wrote:Screw it, I'll call Titan conftown. And I'm eliminating Red Gyarados for the time being. (Still want more ns, though. And BS, for that matter.) And let's take Kats out for the heck of it.
Dooooooo eeeeeeeeet
Wa wa wa wait. Why does this make you want to vote for his town reads? Do you not want to vote for him..Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 3966, CarbonFiber wrote:In post 3948, Yulia Jue wrote:Deal with itYou break my heart everytime you *twitch* at me. I got over it. You'll get over it.
What if I don'tHalf troll/Half wall.
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In post 3880, AngryPidgeon wrote:
I missed your previous post. Ya, Mastin is specc'ing that Bork was rolestopped (and also the NK which is why Mac died). The wiki page said a rolesop may or may not work on kills. Im guessing that a BG/Stopper would probably NOT block kills cause that is self defeating.In post 3877, Titan wrote:Thanks ffery, that makes more sense. The link ffery posted has role stoppers as not stopping kills. But I wouldn't bet the farm on that because how would Bork know that's why it failed? It has to be something else.
Ya Bork was really weird about the situation though so I think this Mac-rolestopping-Kagura theory is not the only explanation for why I failed. I dont think its that worth specc'ing on cause the conclusion that mastin is trying to reach (Kagura was the NK) cannot be proven either way regardless.
But duh, bg role stopper means something different. Just tspha but idk.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 3889, Kagura wrote:
Can we fucking kick this in the ass because you've been kinda weaving this suspicion of me all game in the form of this mild paranoia and I have no idea why.In post 3793, Titan wrote:Maybe they are town, maybe this is town!bork, but it's not unheard of that someone decides they're going to really try to put forth the effort and has the scum game of their lives even without practice.
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What is your problem? You don't feel anything like vesperia when I was paranoid and you were reassuring, here you feel annoyed and weird like you did in we the purple.
Why shouldn't I be paranoid of you? What are you doing? Who do you think is scum? Who do you think is town? Where do you stand on anything? Because what it feels like I'd the inly thing you did was give reasons for mastin town and that's it, and quite frankly if this is what gets you a skate in every game im unimpressed.
This is not transparent town. I should not keep on forgetting you exist. Like seriously Bork if it weren't for nacho being your other head, I wouldn't be glued here and therefore I wouldn't even remember you're playing, that's a problem.
Also for four squares, I'm not the only one worried about you, why aren't you signaling there too?Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 3971, CarbonFiber wrote:
I will come into your garden, plant ten amazing species of plants and flowers, bring you a copy of Wicked, and braid your hair while you read. If you don't get over it then, I'll write you off as a lost cause.In post 3968, Titan wrote:What if I don't
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Okay so for red guards yes, their disappearance sucks, but notscience recently diappeated as town in my wicked game. He also disappeared as town in our pyp game.
I don't think the disappearing is alignment relevant no matter his meta for the moment, what matters s his attitude from here on out,
Also also I can totes see his push against nacho as in both recent games nacho was scum and n's tried to give him a chance and got burned,
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Um...In post 3926, MastinSSK wrote:So I realized a couple of things recently.
-Fox/Hound asked what sparked the change in my attitude. Now, I thought it was because of the thoughts I had, but while all of what I said was true, I think what made it stick, what made it possible, was that between meds and therapy, my mental health is slightly improving.
-Really random, but I know why AP's casting a suspicious eye on me but not voting me. It's really simple. To get complete, total, absolute revenge, a set of criteria must be met:- I must be a BP. (Check.)
- I must be obvtown. (Check.)
- I must have good (perhaps perfect) reads. (...Check? I'm working on it.)
- I must have players supporting me be nightkilled. (Check.)
- I must have players that have had heated debates against me live. (Check.)
- I must be the top poster or among them. (Check.)
- I must have had a screaming, shouting match. (Check.)
- I must be a voice of reason in spite of the above. (Check.)
- I must have been aggressive. (Check.)
- I must have also held arrogance that I was not getting lynched, but be bewildered and slightly concerned at it happening. (Check and sorta-check, but good enough.)
- It must be D3. (Thus, the lack of push from him today.)
- Bonus points if he enters a 1v1 with me, especially citing his role and him getting 'roleblocked' N1.
(First realization serious. Second one only semi-so.)
/content to come in a bit.
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Wa wa wait. CF says before we go ahead with a lynch he'd like to see kagura a thoughts. Does that mean that not only is he not sharing any freaking thoughts in thread, but he's not in the neighborhood either..
Like really is this what gets Bork notoriously town read in every game ever! Because now I'm offended at my mislynch rate if this is the case.Half troll/Half wall.
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What were bork's reads?In post 3984, CarbonFiber wrote:To clarify, Nacho last posted yesterday morning saying that he thought scum was among MastinSSK, AP, Clyton, Orc, and PV. I was waiting to hear updated thoughts mostly.
Oh, btw, did you get a good read on Clyton in the neighborhood?
not yet. Clyton and I claimed to each other. But he hasn't been around much and neither have I. I asked him what he thought of Mastin yesterday, and he said he was catching up. I haven't heard from him since.
but i'm interested in something and how it plays out.
oh but there was one thing that interested me. during yesterday's cagefight, LB claimed pretty readily. Did anyone else realize that Breakfast never claimed during that affair? That seems like it would have been the natural impetus for people to do.Half troll/Half wall.
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Is Nacho posting in the neighborhood and NOT in here? That's problematic as far as I'm concerned because Bork is NOT DOING ANYTHING WORTH A SHIT.
Nacho's been drawing scum roles out the wazzoo and I would think if he'd finally drawn a town role, he'd be here having the time of his life, BUT HE'S NOT.
I just don't understand why anyone thinks they are town.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 3955, Titan wrote:
I'm pretty sure you did not answer this. I'm pretty sure I want it answered.In post 3805, Titan wrote:
Why did it bother you that ap got a result on kagura?In post 3563, The Fox and the Hound wrote:In post 3495, AngryPidgeon wrote:If you guys think Im this stupid then I really REALLY cant help you.
I was hoping to catch CF in a lie about his role. Andyes I got a result on Kagura.
VOTE: AP
Fox and hound.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 3987, Titan wrote:Is Nacho posting in the neighborhood and NOT in here? That's problematic as far as I'm concerned because Bork is NOT DOING ANYTHING WORTH A SHIT.
Nacho's been drawing scum roles out the wazzoo and I would think if he'd finally drawn a town role, he'd be here having the time of his life, BUT HE'S NOT.
I just don't understand why anyone thinks they are town.
This was a bit abrasive of me. This goes against zen me who thinks games should not be hostile and toxic, for that I apologize as I am trying to change my part in making games unpleasant. The sentiment behind it, however, remains.Half troll/Half wall.
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Falcon I read your posts and do have sone thoughts but they will have to wait until tomorrow. It's nearly five and I can't keep my eyes open, blame lilysnd shadoweh for keeping me awake so late last night! Anyway im about to pass out, so yeah.Half troll/Half wall.
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I ended up not having time today and I'm about to crash, so tomorrow.
Clyton and I haven't talked a whole bunch in the neighborhood. I have a leaning town read though.Half troll/Half wall.
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It's been discussed and corrected more than once that he creates the neighborhoods but is not in them (except for his world).In post 4004, PeregrineV wrote:
Just skimming for right now, but are you not in the Titan/Clyton neighborhood?In post 3984, CarbonFiber wrote:To clarify, Nacho last posted yesterday morning saying that he thought scum was among MastinSSK, AP, Clyton, Orc, and PV. I was waiting to hear updated thoughts mostly.
Oh, btw, did you get a good read on Clyton in the neighborhood?
Though Clyton did mention thinking we had a lurker, I don't know why he thought that.Half troll/Half wall.
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Why did you say this at the start of the day when there were no votes on you?In post 3449, Just Sheep Us wrote:Also, if anyone could think I'm still scum at this point, I don't know what to tell them. Like, I don't want to chalk things up to personal bias against me b/c I'm a dick, etc, but I'd be at a loss for any other explanation for anyone voting me at this point.Half troll/Half wall.
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Okay so this game went to a stall...In post 3994, CarbonFiber wrote:
Bork didn't post a reads-list but he seemed to lean town on RedGyarados. He was also scumreading PV on D1. I don't know any of his other reads.In post 3985, Titan wrote:What were bork's reads?
not yet. Clyton and I claimed to each other. But he hasn't been around much and neither have I. I asked him what he thought of Mastin yesterday, and he said he was catching up. I haven't heard from him since.
but i'm interested in something and how it plays out.
oh but there was one thing that interested me. during yesterday's cagefight, LB claimed pretty readily. Did anyone else realize that Breakfast never claimed during that affair? That seems like it would have been the natural impetus for people to do.
I didn't expect Breakfast to claim because I assumed that the lynch was going to be LB (especially with LB himself advocating his lynch) and Breakfast was just there as filler.
There are a few different ways I've been looking at this game. The most obvious one that I think is most likely is what I was pushing for most of the game: Mastin, Rancid, and AP are scum with an unknown fourth member who fooled me decently well that isn't you, BRO-Desp, Yggdra, RG, Fox, PV, or Orc. I am not sure if Kagura will fit into this worldview. Nacho showing up at deadline to completely derail a wagon on a scumbuddy would be a pretty ballsy move. He's only done it with townies before, never fellow scum. Also, his usual interactions with zMuffin as scum-scum is to lightly distance but not TRULY push for the lynch of the lynch of the other the way they did in NY169. This is one of the reasons I called bussing hard on Mastin and AP (because of how they left the outs to lynch PV). My concern that two scum wagons would end up in a town lynch was largely based on Wicked where Nacho and I were wagoned along with UT and T-Bone hydra with the lynch somehow turning onto town-BRO. We all commented on it in the scum QT as well. That's exactly what I was worried would happen with Mastin and AP making a ton of noise but neither getting lynched and lurkertown was deadline lynched instead.
Another worldview is that Nacho and ffery are scum (either one of them or both of them). This is a little weaker but I wouldn't completely rule out ffery not voting at all on Mastin but happily voting BRO at deadline. (As an aside, I know you suspect them but you'd know there is not a chance they are scum if you see the neighborhood thread so I am basically assuming they are town and seeing who votes them). I also wouldn't rule out Breakfast being the last scum along with Mastin/Rancid/AP either. But there are a few things that heavily made me lean town on ffery so I am holding back. And her explanation that she didn't want to lynch Nati's townread in order to save him isn't a bad one either.
A third one involves getting behind Mastin and Rancid completely. I am not sure I can do this but if I do, I am still seeing AP as a scum that Mastin/Rancid caught. The other scum are apparently the low-hanging fruit like PV, maybe Orc. But I have a superstrong townread on PV so I am not sure I buy it. I could still buy Mastin/Rancid town being wrong about PV.
Overall, I can sense some movements in the game that would happen if Rancid and Mastin are town. Specifically Nacho's whiteknighting of Rancid. But it is harder to see Kagura-scum, Rancid-town because Rancid was pretty hard-townreading Kagura and I figured if they were town, they'd have some inkling that Kagura was scum. How likely is Kagura to fit in with a Mastin/Rancid/AP team? Do you think there is still merit to the idea of those three being a team or Mastin and Rancid distancing?
All I am sure of is that this game is not easy. It is not a game that we're going to win by lynching lurkers - PV/Orc etc and everytime Mastin or Nacho bring up the idea that the low hanging fruit/lurkergroup contain scum, it brings up massive glaring red flags. One thing I am convinced is that scum aren't among the players that are easy to lynch and if they were so, this is not the gamestate that we would have ended up at this point.
I'm still concerned about desp/bro, and I know meltdown yada yada but what I'm concerned about is if you look at BRO in Wicked when he was run up and compare it to here, it just doesn't feel the same. Yeah, I know I was the mod so I saw it through a different lens but when we were talking about things in the dead qt, he mentioned that his survivalism is tied to the gamestate and he is more likely to care about being lynched as scum than as town, so on the whole the meltdown makes me wonder. (And this is what I'm refering to about feeling like complete shit if he's telling the truth or if there was just something really going on in his life that impacted how he felt in games.) I'd probably feel like it was more genuine from someone who legitimately cares about being mislynched than as someone who generally doesn't get so worked up about it.
I...don't know what to think about Mastin or AP. Mastin sometimes gives me the feeling of hpaptl but everything is just so over the top. I'd probably be okay with that lynch just because it's been such a distraction and it might help to clear up rancid's alignment. There are a few things that still bug me about rancid, so yeah I don't know there.
I don't know. I feel kinda lost. I want notscience/brian skies to do something so I can stop being worried about them. I thought they were going to start doing stuff this weekend, but that fizzled. I was nacho/bork to do something so I can stop being worried about them. Ffery has said some things that I'd be pretty shocked if it came from scum. I'd be surprised if you were scum. Clyton and I claimed to each other, and the use of his role is compatible with his behavior. Scum will know my role if he's scum, but if that's the case it's really no big deal. I don't really get the super strong town read on PV. I'm more than a little concerned about Orci, and right now I'm a little worried that Nacho orchestrated that lynch on Orci yesterday knowing that he would self-govern. Also, now his proven gladiator type fight makes me concerned about Rancid. I mean I get it there can be multiple roles and lolcabd game so I'm not going to outguess the mod, but would there be two gladiator-type town roles?
Ugh I don't feel good. I'm going to go lie down. If this headache disappears, I'll try to finish my thoughts.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 4032, Yggdra Union wrote:And governor is a town role.
Hi! Cabd game, there's more to it than x is a town role.
I've been a scum self-governor, and mattp was a scum self governor in Baltomeet.Half troll/Half wall.
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Okay falcon.
I should probably also note my activity might be spotty the next few weeks. End of the semester for me too. Much like the beginning of semesters, I never know how they'll go, but I typically use mafia as a way to take a break during grading so my activity might just be normal.Half troll/Half wall.
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Mastin - when I say lolcabd game it means I'm not about to outguess what he would or wouldn't do. I mean I'll wonder about it, but I'm not going to go aha one has to be scum! He designs more complex setups than that whole thing. I take a somewhat similar approach to faraday games. Using common sense is fine, saying the mod will do x isn't here.Half troll/Half wall.
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Just out of curiosity's sake, I'd love to know what that niggle is.In post 4071, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
I'm on town's side. And I obviously think that means we're on the same side.In post 4070, CarbonFiber wrote:
Of course there is a whole game going on and I didn't direct my wall at you so I have no idea why you would be tired of talking about it. I particularly don't like posts like these where you discourage analysis or look down upon town players working with each other.In post 4069, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Maybe it's an artifact of where your focus currently is, but I feel like there's a whole game going on here, not just those 3 players.
I'm trying to move up a few thousand feet in terms of how I'm viewing the game, because I'm kinda tired of talking to the same people with the same disagreements and agreements constantly.
From my perspective, it's not moving the game forward. And I don't think anything is going to seriously move the game forward until more players are really engaged today.
I have been moving the game forward by collaborating with townreads and making sure we lynch one of Mastin/AP today. I really don't want this to turn into yet another noisy day where Mastin and AP make a spectacle of themselves and we lynch another lurker. My objective is to make sure we drive one of their lynches through today and I need you on my side if you are town.
I'm not trying to discourage analysis at all, and in fact your criticisms (and tammy's) on day 1 about my typical play were noted and internalized. How that manifests in my in-thread behavior, I don't know yet. I probably won't know what I'm actually doing differently as opposed to what I'm thinking until I get feedback about it in games.
Whoever we vote today aside, there are other reads to solidify today. I guess what's frustrating me is that you're talking about 3 players I think are town. Of the three, the only one I have even the slightest niggle about at the moment is Titan and it's a very small niggle that I feel pretty sure comes down to playstyle/philosophy.
The bit about the same disagreements over and over is a general whine not directed at you.Half troll/Half wall.
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Heh...well at least I didn't barge into that one and I remained the creepy peeping Tammy behind the windows where I belonged :pIn post 4056, AngryPidgeon wrote:
You weren't in Baltimore meet game. Stalker!In post 4035, Titan wrote:In post 4032, Yggdra Union wrote:And governor is a town role.
Hi! Cabd game, there's more to it than x is a town role.
I've been a scum self-governor, and mattp was a scum self governor in Baltomeet.
And Axxle was a town self governor in Reckoning conversely :p
Oh, I didn't know that about axle.Half troll/Half wall.
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Mostly the concern that he bussed.In post 4065, CarbonFiber wrote: Orc's role does somewhat clash but I'm scumreading Rancid so I am not overly worried about it. What about Orcinus concerned you beyond the possibility that Nacho bussed?Half troll/Half wall.
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Mastin's posts from last night are rubbing me the wrong way.
I think I'm going to take a nap, I'll respond to falcons bro wall later.Half troll/Half wall.
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I don't think that's what she's saying. She's saying she doubts Mastin's understanding of the game because he's misreading her, and though it can take you in the wrong direction it's a pretty natural stance to have. It's a similar way she viewed taking seriously Nacho's reads when Nacho tried to put together a scum team with greyice on it in Tales of the Abyss when she had role information that pointed to GI town.In post 4114, Just Sheep Us wrote:
this is pretty dumb considering townies have misread townies in every game of mafia everIn post 4113, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:That's never been the pattern in the first place. If someone is reading me wrong, then I question their other reads and their understanding of the gamestate. If Mastin is town, then her understanding of the game state is warped by her misreading me.
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This is preposterous. I have given what I've said about the neighborhood and beyond what I've said, it's none of anyone's business. And considering the way you treated your neighborhoods in marketplace 3 as secret entities, I'm really surprised you're posturing about this.In post 4115, PeregrineV wrote:
In detail-Given the posting activity in your neighborhood, the Titan/Clyton inactivity is very bothersome. If they feel the other is town, I'd expect a report on the ideas and reads they bounced off each other. If one suspected the other, for whatever reason, I'd expect to hear that also. The fact that neither has come forward to say ANYTHING regarding their neighborhood makes me suspect both of them, when I had them both as townreads.
And to compare it to the other neighborhood, which has been in existence for two weeks longer than the one I have, at a time when both of us aren't very active in thread, and i stated at the beginning of the day I wouldn't be doing anything with mafia for a few days is silly. Not only that to suspect us both is ludicrous.
They are not giving detailed reports from their neighborhoods and no one is asking them to, what is yours and mastin's fixation on mine?Half troll/Half wall.
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Since when did you have me as a town read? I thought the last you said about me you could only somewhat see what I said as town???Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 4113, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:No, I'm not following into the pattern of distrusting people whose reads disagree with mine.
That's never been the pattern in the first place. If someone is reading me wrong, then I question their other reads and their understanding of the gamestate. If Mastin is town, then her understanding of the game state is warped by her misreading me.
My stances right now are clearly fucked until I figure out Mastin. Part of me just wants her gone and flipped so that I can course adjust or carry on. But that wish goes against my entire approach to mafia and I hate that I'm thinking that way in this game.Half troll/Half wall.
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This felt town.In post 4121, MastinSSK wrote:
Before I get into the rest of the stuff, let me just point out this. Aside from my lack of paranoia on Nacho and assuring others that Nacho would be townreading me, there is literally nothing.In post 4107, Nachomamma8 wrote:I was going to vote mastin, but I suddenly skimmed the last two pages (although don't plan on reading much of it until later) and happened upon things that pretty much trashed my resolve.
Although: Mastin, is there any other game where you were simply "too mean" to be scum?
NOTHING.
In my posting.
That I can buy.
Even remotely.
A town Nacho not townreading. Those two things (which are arguably the same thing) are literally the only damn thing in my play that could possibly have pinged Nacho on me, at all. Yet this? This says otherwise. That he's either nulling me or deeply concerning (even scumreading) me. Which quite frankly, I don't buy. From BROseidon who (after this game) will have a Fate-reading-RECK card on me, sure, yeah, I can buy that type of misread. From Nacho?
Fuck no, I won't. That he doesn't have the townread is itself a red flag.
But even then. Let's assume. Just for a fraction of a second. That somehow. He thinks this could possibly. Even remotely. Be a scum me. Being willing to take that to a vote? Especially when I'm the lead wagon? Also not a town-Nacho behavior. ESPECIALLY with a lack of interaction before-hand! Nacho showing concern for me as town? Interacts with me. If he is sure I'm scum after that interaction, vote. Never a moment before.
But let's say that he did. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, there.
There's the fact that he says the last two pages of my spewing has given him doubt-on-scumread. Which is bullshit, since the last two pages of me has been quite frankly the most nulled content I've been posting in a long time. The towniest aspects in the posting are things that have existed not only for the entirety of P3 of my iso, not only the entirety of today, but ALSO of my play throughout the game. So the reason for not voting me isn't valid, either.
Lack of correct read. Lack of interaction. Lack of proper reasoning, of the right chain of thought.
That is not a town Nacho. The bit at the end is thrown in as essentially an after-thought. Something like that, asked earlier and throughout the game? Yeah, town-him. Right now? No.Half troll/Half wall.
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So, pere, what you're saying is is that I have reported activity from the neighborhood. Oh you see silly me I thought your point that I hadn't reported ANYTHING from the neighborhood was you thinking I hadn't reported anything from the neighborhood. I suppose your dictionary has not anything meaning something different than mine.
I have never, not even in that quote you say I did, give a full town read on Clyton. In fact, if you read my posts you'll note the strength of my town read this far go like "would be shocked if they were scum". That's not a ringing town read endorsement for anything.
And no context nancy, I looked up how nacho behaved in tales of the abyss neighborhood to see if MASTIN'S assumptions on nachos behavior held up. Ie did he tell Bork to go to their hydra qt to discuss reads because he mistrusted his neighbors and therefore that made him town.
And yes, you did keep your neighborhood activity a secret in marketplace.
I really couldn't care what your updated read on me is. The gobbledygook you've spewed today is enough for me not to take you seriously anyway.Half troll/Half wall.
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Like seriously I also in that quote that you cut in which "I give a full townread" I didn't actually give, I say I'm interested in something and seeing how it pans out.
I'm actually pretty weirded out over the concern about my neighborhood though the other neighborhood is of no concern, especially since "we were town reads" supposedly. If pere is scum there is more than op likely scum in that neighborhood.Half troll/Half wall.
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He did mess up falcons role. He thought falcon was in the neighborhoods he set up.
Well, I might try to see where he's coming from if he could make sense, but the way that's going I'm not sure.
I think he did town slip though. We don't have a quick topic for our neighborhood, but the answer he have me about Clyton thinking that we had a lurker was for a quick topic. On the assumption that cabd is using ms private topics for everything, pere giving me that answer thinking I was in a quick topic means it's likely he's not in one because then he would have known that you can't just look at unique views and why I didn't understand why he thought there was a lurker. So, if a member of the scum team could verify if you have a quick topic that would be very helpful thanks!Half troll/Half wall.
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He's full town reading m, that much I know.
I asked him for his name, but told him he didn't have to claim, I was just interested in who he was. We briefly talked about tales of xillia. Hehe full claimed to me. I full claimed to him in return. My full claiming doesn't mean I had him as full town. I quite clearly said I was interested in seeing how it pans out. I also quite clearly said that even if the scum team now know my role it doesn't matter a bunch.Half troll/Half wall.
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He didn't say qt. he said look at the number of unique views. They don't exist in an ms private topic as it's just like a regular thread, hence me not understanding why Clyton thought we had a lurker.
It's not impossible and I wouldn't bet the game on it, but using the private topic is a markedly different experience than the quick topic.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 4194, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Then take your own goddamn advice about confbias.
I feel like this is one of those things empire would point out to me after the game and say it came from a town ffery.
I'm still learning, but I feel like it's one of them.Half troll/Half wall.
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Mastin's posts to ffery last night remind me of his posts to me in Attack on Titan. I imagine I frustrated him because I didn't give him much he could argue against as I was scum reading his slot merely because the game just made more sense to me if he was scum.
His tone and frustration feels similar.Half troll/Half wall.
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Why pray tell did you have a town read on me before if I'm not providing content?
I'd be happy to claim to the entire damn thread. It makes no difference to me.Half troll/Half wall.
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So, I'm feeling kind of weirded out by this developing secondary arc which looks like it's positioning itself to lynch the ffery hydra. I'm not sure what to think of the people involved or the way it's coming about.Half troll/Half wall.
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You know what Peregrine. I'm not going to respond to you. I've already answered the questions you're asking me. And quite frankly I feel like you're just trying to look busy. I would maybe make an effort to explain myself to you but we saw how well that turned out in the Board Game. I quite frankly don't have the time or patience to deal with your apparent inability to see that the questions you've asked have already been answered.
My ISO is awesome in terms of scumhutning, but hey baby cakes glass houses.
but in case i wasn't clear. I'D CLAIM TO THE ENTIRE DAMN THREAD. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SCUM KNOW WHAT I AM. I WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW IT PLAYS OUT.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 4222, PeregrineV wrote:
Which posts are devloping a secondary arc that looks like it's positioning itself to lynch Breakfast with Stalin?In post 4220, Titan wrote:So, I'm feeling kind of weirded out by this developing secondary arc which looks like it's positioning itself to lynch the ffery hydra. I'm not sure what to think of the people involved or the way it's coming about.
What people are involved?
Because none of that makes any sense, especially with this:In post 4125, Yulia Jue wrote:Breakfast With Stalin (1): CupcakePanda
Read the fucking thread.
Geezuz fucking Christ.Half troll/Half wall.
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Also, I don't know if I should be insulted or complimented that peregrine of all people claimed my iso is awful in terms of scum hunting.Half troll/Half wall.
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In post 2, Yulia Jue wrote:Player Roster:
1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8)
2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV)
3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo
4 orcinus_theoriginal
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane)
6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha)
7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK)
8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli)
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling)
10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16)
11 Lord Business
12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado)
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience)
14 Cupcake Panda
15 PeregrineV
16 Clyton
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The Not so Living:
Spoiler: Show
NOW I'M FUCKING AMAZING.Half troll/Half wall.
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You make me want to beat my head agains the freaking wall.In post 4232, PeregrineV wrote:pedit
Why are people still talking about townslips?
I don't have ANY private topics. Period. I have QTs. Period. You can see # of unique views at the bottom. Period.
Like do you read every word or sentence in a post? This is a serious question. A really serious question.Half troll/Half wall.
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...are you literally posting an iso of mine from two freaking years ago to use as meta. Are you? Are you serious?In post 4231, PeregrineV wrote:
You don't have to. You just have to keep freaking out when someone asks you a question. And refuse to answer it.In post 4223, Titan wrote:You know what Peregrine. I'm not going to respond to you. I've already answered the questions you're asking me. And quite frankly I feel like you're just trying to look busy. I would maybe make an effort to explain myself to you but we saw how well that turned out in the Board Game. I quite frankly don't have the time or patience to deal with your apparent inability to see that the questions you've asked have already been answered.
My ISO is awesome in terms of scumhutning, but hey baby cakes glass houses.
but in case i wasn't clear. I'D CLAIM TO THE ENTIRE DAMN THREAD. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SCUM KNOW WHAT I AM. I WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
Spoiler: Tammy scumhunting
Actually, that entire game is an excellent example. We (town) won, and you had 465 posts the entire game. You are currently at 451 in this game. If you could answer me, which 3 posts are your single biggest contribution to advancing the gamestate?
You're asking me stupid questions that are already answered or are such common freaking sense I have no idea why you ask them. I also have no freaking idea why I'm continuing to engage with you because conversations with you go nowhere because you either have no ability or actual desire to see where someone else is coming from that it's like talking to a brick wall. Do you remember our discussion in the Board Game? You know the role fishing one? Where I explained our thought process and motivation a million times and you still didn't get it. OH and hey guess what Porkens did misinterpret his role information which is what we were trying to solidify.
NO WAIT SERIOUSLY ARE YOU POSTING TWO YEAR OLD META AS YOUR BASIS FOR READING ME WHEN THE BOARD GAME GAME IS LESS THAN A MONTH OLD AND I'M ACTUALLY MORE ENGAGED IN THIS GAME THAN IN THAT OTHER GAME THAT JUST ENDED AND YOU'RE POSTING TWO YEAR OLD META.
FFSHalf troll/Half wall.
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I only answer good questions. You should stop asking stupid questions, that are just busy work, go nowhere, have already been answers in the first fucking place, and try to understand WHAT I HAVE ALREADY FUCKING SAID.In post 4244, PeregrineV wrote:
You should stop defecating and answer the questions.In post 4225, Titan wrote:Also, I don't know if I should be insulted or complimented that peregrine of all people claimed my iso is awful in terms of scum hunting.Half troll/Half wall.
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Peregrine - I don't like interacting with you because you are annoying the everliving shit out of me (this I probably would have kept to myself/should have kept to myself but I'm going to stoop to your level after the defecating remark and quite frankly I'm not in the best place mentally to really think clearly so, deal). I don't like the questions you ask because they are stupid and don't go anywhere and or have already been answered like a million fucking times. Let's take the neighborhood stupidity. It's already been answered. I've already talked about the neighborhood, Falcon already saw where I was coming from, it's the most clear fucking thing in the world and yet for some unknown reason you don't fucking get it. It's just like just fucking like your role fishing accusation in the Board Games which drove me and pless so fucking insane because it was so obvious what we were doing but you kept harping on your point of view or how you were reading it and it ended up being a distraction because you don't actually read fucking shit when someone explains something to you.
So, for instance you say you haven't hear anything from the neighborhood, except then you go and point out all the times I did mention my neighborhood. No, it's not the most active neighborhood in the world. He hasn't been around a whole lot, and as I said AT THE START OF THE FUCKING DAY, neither was I or would I really be. It's really none of your business what we've talked about in the neighborhood beyond what I already fucking said in the damn thread.
And I don't care about claiming when I am the role I am; I offered to claim yesterday. I don't care if scum know what I am because it REALLY DOESN'T FUCK MATTER. And, you know what? If anyone asked me to claim, I'd probably claim because I DON'T GIVE A DAMN.
I'm not pissed off at someone asking me questions, I'm annoyed at you because of the stupid questions and you know what maybe I'm still annoyed at you from the Board Game game. Sometimes I'm good about not holding onto frustrations from previous games and letting that go but right now I'm a little not quite right and things are bothering me longer than normal and I just wanted to punch you so many times during that game and you're making me feel the exact same fruking way. And I'm fucking pissed off because I've been trying like hell not to lose it in a mafia game and you're asking stupid fucking question and your attitude fucking sucks.
And using two year old meta is fucking stupid when you have more recent more relevant meta. And fuck you with less effective. If I recall, part of the reason why we didn't end up losing that game when half the town wanted to blindly lynch me, ffery/cabd, and aun was because of my efforts that last day before I got killed, so take your less effective and shove it up your ass. You don't know how to use meta and you shouldn't try.Half troll/Half wall.
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I will feel so justified from day one bullshit if Mastin turns out to be scum...doubly so if it's also Rancid.
Because that will mean it's in Cabd's scum contract and I'm not just some stupid omgus, I can actually tell when attacks on me aren't real.Half troll/Half wall.
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