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Albert and Guardian appear to be scum. I'm satisfied with finding two today.
sv was an odd kill because when she's town the town loses and when she's scum the town loses. Extrapolate from that as you will.
<3 Jack. Whether you're wagoning scumbuddies or playing well, I'm buying it so far.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Do you really not find anything suspicious about the totality of Guardian's posts? I'd like to hear your analysis before I elaborate.BillyTwilight wrote:MBL, what is it exactly about Guardian that you don't like? His original joking around with Glork?
Glork brings up essentially the same point I did, that sv isn't necessarily a logical kill, and then reasons that someone without a ton of sv knowledge aka Albert might have committed the kill. I don't have a problem with it. I presently think he was just making early-game hay when he chided me for doing the same thing.
BT parrotted two players in that post. Sketchy.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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BillyTwilight wrote:What exactly do you mean by parroting two players?Guardian wrote:mbl votes me for my joke...
mbl defends his page 2 vote on me and doesn't get that I was joking.Glork wrote:Donotstrawman me, Jack.
Polly wanna cracker?BillyTwilight wrote:MBL, what is it exactly about Guardian that you don't like? His original joking around with Glork?
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Glork, you're totally, totally wrong here. If the statement was "any claim is better than claiming vanilla" you'd be right, but "getting lynched is better than claiming vanilla" only applies to town. Therefore the statement by TCS leans strongly towards assuming Albert is town.Glork wrote:In fact, I would say that "getting lynched is better than claming vanilla" isapplicable if Albert is scum than if Albert is town.more
I see where you were going with this, MBL, but you're just plain wrong this time around.
TCS's statement was:
Not for scum it isn't. This statement only applies to town, and therefore TCS possibly made a slip that he knew Albert was town. Don't you see this?TCS wrote:It's better to get lynched than claim vanilla.
Sometimes you read a player's post and think, "Why was that the first thing they thought of to say?" TCS's reaction was a water-treading exercise and a bizarre first thing to post unless he was scum who instinctively thought, "What a dumb-ass townie" and blurted that out.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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But that's not what he said, and we're playing a game that involves careful use and analysis of words and phrases. He said:Jack wrote:Or he could have thought,ifAlbert B is a townie he shouldn't claim it.
It's better to get lynched than claim vanilla.
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It's better to get lynched than claim vanilla if you're town.
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Glork, I rarely interpret those slips as 100% indicative of alignment. But in the absence of anything else to go on, they'resomething, often they can tilt the scales between two players who both look scummy to me, and there's a lot to be learned from people's reactions to the observation. I don't think in black and white by any means, but that doesn't mean I won't push these things aggressively.
I'll think about if/when I've caught scum making slips in any games not still running. And I'm not trying to distract from anything--it's actually time for a reread to see who's not participating.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Glork wrote:
....are you trying to tell me you've found nothing else to go on?MBL wrote: But in the absence of anything else to go on, they'resomethingannoyed: Glork
But in the absence of anything else to go on, they're something,often they can tilt the scales between two players who both look scummy to me, and there's a lot to be learned from people's reactions to the observation.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Huck, please qualify this lack of good feeling if you can.HackerHuck wrote:I find the interactions between Glork and MBL to be a bit odd. I don't think I've played with Glork before, so I'm not sure what to make of his posting. MBL isn't acting like he has before as scum and actually seems pro-town to me, but I just don't have a good feeling about their "argument" so far.
I'm just milling about looking for stuff to make hay over on Day One. Glork disagreed on a few points, I corrected him where appropriate, and I'm entirely unsure of his alignment. How's that odd?dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Hey, I call em like I see em and I have nothing to hide. My first thought upon seeing sv dead was, "wow, what a bizarre choice" and it would have been anti-town for me to bite my tongue about that. I'm happy to censor my thoughts when expressing them could endanger a player but otherwise I'll take whatever reasonable amount of "suspicion" comes from expressing the truth as I see it.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Fascinating. It's D1, Guardian, we all hardly know each other, and youGuardian wrote:In YOS joining, I advise people to read the few posts that I and YB had right before he joined. I don't want them to get swallowed in all the noise.reallywant us to notice that YB approves of you:
Written YB off as possible scum, Guardian? Or is it more that BM looks like a weak sheep and you're putting us back on the scent?YogurtBandit wrote:I liked Guardian's post, Especially the last sentence.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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YB, you hopped on a wagon:
Then you defended beanbagboy for joining a wagon:YogurtBandit wrote:Vote:Battle Mage
Might as well join on the Wagon
and then you attacked Albert for joining a wagon:YB wrote:Jack, He's following because you said, "let's wagon".
And then you accused BM of being wishy-washyYogurtBandit wrote:
Your Inital Impressions are to join a Bandwagon??Albert B. Rampage wrote:We are just at page 6, these are my initial impressions, that's all.
Thank you for providing tonight's entertainment.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Yes Yogurt, you're right, if I'd left the last nine words in there, your scumhunting genius would have shone through and all doubt would have been washed away like Peeps in a warm driving rain:YogurtBandit wrote:
That wasnt all I said in that post, you just quoted the part where you can use it to accuse me...MrBuddyLee wrote:
Fascinating. It's D1, Guardian, we all hardly know each other, and youGuardian wrote:In YOS joining, I advise people to read the few posts that I and YB had right before he joined. I don't want them to get swallowed in all the noise.reallywant us to notice that YB approves of you:
Written YB off as possible scum, Guardian? Or is it more that BM looks like a weak sheep and you're putting us back on the scent?YogurtBandit wrote:I liked Guardian's post, Especially the last sentence.
YN also wrote:...It is as if BM wants to seems scummy.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Your affair with YB reminds me of Kurt and Courtney. You should watch your back.Guardian wrote:I am getting a very town read on him (YB). I think that is also happening for him vis a vis me.
I would join the N9V wagon, but I would probably be found scummy for that, too .
Also, if you're town, you should join wagons because you feel they're right and not overly worry about what others think. Courage is townish, self-preservation is scummy.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Wow, I couldn't disagree with this more. I'm en fuego this game, so much so in fact that I'll be getting ganked N1. And all but about two of Jack's 25 or so posts have added something relevant to the game, many things I also noticed myself.AutumnEvenings wrote:Also, MrBuddyLee and Jack, who have more posts but hardly any more content.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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That's a much more fairly expressed point, and causes me to assess you as townish. To be honest, I haven't drawn conclusions about many players so far, I'm more making observations that other people can build on. I've gotten a mildly townish vibe from Jack, mildly scummy vibes from Guardian, and conflicting vibes from HJ, YB, Glork, BM, beanbag, TCS and Albert. That's off the top of my head.AutumnEvenings wrote:Well Glork, then here's a test: close your eyes and tell me what MBL thinks about five random players (not counting yourself). If you can do it, I'm impressed.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Glork, does your dictionary have a different definition forI feel that YB, Guardian, and Albert are all either complete novices at this game, or they're playing really sloppy scum. I amcertain(bold mine) that at least one of them is scumcertainthan mine does? Cause use of that word on D1 gives me hives.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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I know. I don't hate your "certainty", it's just that I find myself having to maintain a Glorksaurus in my head so when you use one word I know it actually means something different.Glork wrote:I'm sorry that you hate certainty in Mafia, but you know that it's pretty much how I roll.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Plus, one of my idols once expressed similar concerns about certainty. Back in my first big game on scum:
Then again, he was scum, lol.Glork, Speedy KQ's Big NY wrote:(MBL,) yourcertaintyin both lynches and suspicion-casting on their voters before the lynches/alignments were made public by the mod contribute to my uneasiness towards you.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Oddly, Glork kind of left out the most important reason:Glork wrote:
Several reasons.Albert wrote:Glork, why would who I think is scummy matter, when there are more experienced players who can more easily find the scum ?
A) Experienced players play poorly at times. Look at Lights Out 2. I helped secure FOUR MISLYNCHES on DAY ONE in that game. (Nevermind that I pushed two lynches on scums on Day Two... the beginning of that game was easily the worst game I had ever played.)
B) Your arguments are just as valid as anybody else's, provided they are logically sound. If every player just sat around and waited for the best scumhunters to try to find scum, then we'd end up with the same bandwagon/follow-the-X game that we almost have here.
C) More experienced players can be scums themselves. Scumbags will try to mislead you. If I am scum and you wait for me to tell you who the scums are and you follow me, there's a decent chance you'll end up mislynching. And considering that I've had an unusually high number of mediocre (at best) games lately, you wouldn't even be able to use Burde of Proficiency (logical fallacy as it is) against me.
D) If you're scum, Albert, we'll use your arguments to catch you.
Now why would Glork overlook the most important reason for Albert to post his suspicions?dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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1) Takes 10 to lynch. Risk minimal.
2) Your vote expresses your intent. We need to learn everyone's intent.
Obviously if you're extremely expressive with your suspicions, the rule's not golden. But it's a good example to set--doesn't give lazy scum and lurkers wiggle room to say "Well, HungryJoe wasn't voting... so why should I?"
Albert's excuse is that he's waiting for a "strong case on someone". Insufficient reason not to vote D1 imo.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:MBL is lurking, this is not usual play for him, not sure what to make of it, though.Vote: MrBuddyLee
Are you guys sharing spoons with Paris? Seriously, don't post at 4:30 in the morning if it's going to be retarded.Glork wrote:MoS: MBL lurked hardcore in Committee as town, did he not?
Lurking with 32 posts in 13 days? gtfo.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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I couldn't disagree more with Billy's arguments about lurkers.
1) Lurkers aren't fun to play with. You play to examine the interactions between personalities, not so you can try to ascertain what's inside Generic_Cardboard_Box_01. So it's pro-fun to berate them.
2) Why on earth assume town can't both poke at lurkers AND comment on active players? Why assume your fellow townies can't discern between a pure lurker-hunter and one who does both? Lurker-hunting is only scummy in the absence of other critical analysis, and it's easy to nail people who solely lurker-hunt as scummy.
3) It's not the mod's job to lurker-hunt. A player who posts once a week shouldn't be replaced, their fellow town should do the work to get them posting more.
4) Just because lurkers are town doesn't mean they're not a threat to town. I can't tell you how many times I've coasted to victory as scum on the backs of lurking town. Getting those people to talk is invariably a good thing for town.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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1. Shteven- Checks in with a useless post, as if he didn't want to accumulate votes for lurking.
"My vote will stand on albert for quite some time" sounds bizarre, especially after his previous post only offered a fingernail of suspicion on Albert.. then
after being prodded for reasoning. Seems it should be more readily at hand if the vote is that firm...Shteven wrote:I will go back and provide a summary of why I'm on Albert still
Curious to see "seeming less scummy" evidenced by the fact he's picked up a wagon rather than by any specific details of his behavior.Shteven wrote:Re-reading my own posts, the only problem I see is that TCS seemed sane back then, and he's now seeming much less so. Where I left off around page 19 he's just starting to pick up a wagon.
Sounds like too much like rationalization and not enough like scumhunting. Calls his marks "targets" which is a scummish word but I've possibly used it before as town, not sure. Asking a few players to sit back came across as moderately protown. But then he "wants to hear more" about yogurt as scum and BT-HJ instead of researching it himself. Leaning: scummy postings made by sloppy town.Shteven wrote:(Albert) admitted to acting scummy -- then offered the defense that we should read his other games, and find out that this is normal. I object to that as I hardly am able to keep up with one game, there's no way I'm going to read another 4 so that I can meta-game this one. Considering that defense as completely worthless, My vote remained.
3. HungryJoe --Disinterested protown tone
5. The Central Scrutinizer (TCS)
This seems to assume BM is town.Sigh. Battle Mage, please stop distracting the town from lynching the ACTUAL scum. This is the primary problem with your playstyle.
This sounds like a lie to me.I wasn't acting scummy so people would get a read on me. I wanted to see who was most interested in shifting the wagon to me.
Typical scum mistake, why the read that he's SK and not scum, how would their behavior differ? Major scumtell, either scum or town making huge mistakes.I'm calling Guardian as SK.
6. Coron 6. inHimshallIbe - I don't have a problem with him yet. Must ask him questions to get more info on alignment.
7. ~N9V~ 7. Mastermind Of Sin - for some reason i got a protown vibe off of: "Still feeling good about him, yay!" Went most sharply after the player who attacked his predecessor, something I'd expect from protown replacement. I liked most of his initial thoughts post except for the paragraph on me which is paranoid and obtuse. And he's sticking with it for whatever reason.
8. HackerHuck - Oddly bold statement:
Thinks a vig might be using a chainsaw. "town seems opportunistic" is a protown comment. Conclusion: huck needs to try harder if he's town.Very little to go on.I'd wager that if BM turns up scum, HungryJoe is one too.
9. BattleMage - I'm not even going to bother for now. Too painful. I'll analyze him separately later.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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smack: anyone FOSing/voting me for voting Glork
This is a game of words. When someone uses a particular word you do not ASSUME they meant to use another word. You prod and poke and see if the story they give checks out. Scum make mistakes when they're tired, and "typos" are absolutely NOT a nonexistent scumtell. lrn2play.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Not as much as I would have had you guys not derailed.
I confirmed that MoS is kneejerk this game, and Glork's reaction was different than I expected, and that johann may have invented some reasoning, and that you for some inexplicable reason think I'm the best place for your vote right now.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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On D1, BM posted no relevant game posts for a week. That's sufficient cause for removal for me if the mod so chooses... if you know you've gotta afk for a week early in the game, don't sign up!
Plus...BM wrote:now hurry up and kill me. i DO hate a dragged out demise...
combined with his self-hammer in another game recently makes him an excellent candidate for replacement on grounds of wrecking/unbalancing the game intentionally. The absence plus the irresponsibility == yay, replacement.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Protownish observation.Well Glork, then here's a test: close your eyes and tell me what MBL thinks about five random players (not counting yourself). If you can do it, I'm impressed.
Pretty sizable "happy list", I like to narrow mine down a lot more before I consider being happy with my decision. YMMV.AutumnEvenings wrote:I'd be quite happy lynching the following: Billy, Yogurt, Albert, Shteven, and possibly a few others
I would have used "appeared to have done" as town but meh. Dense, nuanced, observant posts. Autumn, what do you think of MoS? Reason I ask is you asked him a question about BT, then reminded the rest of us six times that you asked that question.I don't think he's doing it instead of scum-hunting, which is what I accused you of, as he's done an awful lot of the latter.
15. Billy Twilight - not manipulative, other than on the soapbox about lurker hunting. "BTW, part of the reason I think YB is scum is because of his forced sounding ask for a lurker hunt against N9V." without a vote on YB is a little suspicious, but he followed up with the vote a few days later. No major scumsigns otherwise.
16. Jack - Paying attention, playing like I am--reading posts and making observations, not so much picking out scum yet. His vote's on me, which is a pretty crappy place for it imo but his recent votes on Yogurt and Shteven weren't bad.
18. Nik Zero 18. Yosarian2 - Appears to be scumhunting, which made me realize we won't be able to tell scum town from SK very easily, so we're basically hunting mafia for now. Saying someone is "townish" is kind of misleading at this point because SK and town share an agenda. Nothing Yos has said bothers me, and I'm extra paranoid about him because I've never seen him as scum that I can recall.
19. Johhan-Only 11 posts.
Bizarre. Votes BM but: "That last sentence screams scum to me, but also makes me keep an eye on Albert." Albert-centric, using Albert to incriminate. Fascinating.I'm keeping an eye on who's on the albert bandwagon, since i think he's scum but also find several of those voting for him suspicious.
This sounds like scum chiding town. Actively distancing/bussing scum.johhan wrote:Oh, I believe that you just made a mistake, it was how quick you snapped to the defensive, and have been doing most of the game, that bugs me.
20. BeanBagBoy (BBB) 20. Plessiez Bizarre opening statement:
Actually no, it's only two reasons: two scumgroups chose not to kill him or one chose not to and he's in the other.I don't think Glork's survival is any reason to blame him. We don't know what went on last night, it could have been any number of reasons that kept him alive.
Ok, we're dealing with a slightly illogical person here. Noted.your votes give others information, so as a rule voting is a good thing (in random voting)
Curious use of "we're".If we're going after non contributers, Unvote: Jack, Vote: YogurtBandit
Another weird quote and bad reason to unvote... weird excuse for protecting BM?Unvote, there are too many people too close to being lynched.
Pointing out masons: clueless tell. except that i think beanbag's an alt, so wtf...still, that's enough to keep my vote where it is."
FOSes me two weeks late for my first post about the sv kill. No firm conclusion, seemed like an alter playing intentionally bizarre.
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I guess you didn't find this sketchy:Mastermind of Sin wrote:I don't remember Yogurt attacking my predecessor, either.
Also, that wasn't sarcasm.
Strongly implying that if he lurks just a lil bit longer, then maybe it'll be ok to lynch him...Yogurt wrote:N9V could be a good play, but we should prod him first... pressure voting is okay, but we cant lynch him for lurking just yet.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Not only can you get something from the tone of responses to that question, but there's also a chance of a scum slip-up. You never know what you can get people to do when they're tired/drunk...
Autumn, I'm working on my Glork analysis, but off the top of my head I'm solidly on the fence regarding him. Don't tell him this, but I'd almost never be in favor of a Glork lynch D1. That doesn't mean I don't want him on the hotseat though.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Shteven, my question to Albert and Yogurt is only mu if they are town. Do you have some inside information that this is the case? If not, would you care to revise and extend your remarks?Shteven wrote:I realize I'm not supposed to be answering other people's questions for them, but MBL's question is so horribly stupid I figured I'd take a crack at it.
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I hoped that the first one of those two that arrived at my question would be scum, and would accidentally answer the question by naming the most bussable of their scumpartners. I don't know if you've ever seen the tv show with that British guy who pseudo-hypnotizes people on hte street into giving him their watches and wallets, but I was hoping that if I asked with confidence, I might get scum in a frame of mind to answer my question.BillyTwilight wrote:I wonder (since now it seems neither are going to answer it - don't know how I feel about that) what you would expect the answers to be from a town player or from a scum player.
I expected town to confidently state "wtf". I expected scum that spotted the trick to respond uneasily.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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What I'm expecting to see before I read D1:
Yogurt: Goofball, gets indignant and OMGUSsy if he's town being accused.
Guardian: dunno
Albert: dunno
BM: Irrational but sincere
Glork: Irrational and manic, possibly indifferentish
Guardian
Aren't these two statements equivalent? I was concerned that you'd push your responsibility for your vote on someone else, and in the next sentence you vote someone for soing the same thing.I could definitely be convinced to get back on BM. At the moment I shall
vote: N9V because he made one post with a vote and used someone else's reasoning for it
"Ok, I took an hour or two to think." really? If so, I'm impressed.
It looks like you added "for the town" at the last minute here. Without it, the sentence would look scummy. Question is, would both town and scum be equally likely to modify that sentence?Guardian wrote:Albert, like I said earlier, is an appealing play for the town if only because he has already claimed vanilla.
Slip of the tongue?Guardian wrote:Albert I have little qualms about because he made an unforced vanilla townie claim earlier, he is not contributing much to the town, andhas given us many reasons to think we are scum.
Not the world's best argument.Guardian wrote:he is a claimed vanilla that, if not mafia, the mafia will let hang around for the whole game to try and get him lynched later
How do you know Albert's not the SK?Guardian wrote:Is coming up with cases on people you know not to be your scum buddies difficult? You could at least help us find the SK.
And again.Albert is just trying to distract people from himself, to the detriment of the town, or to help his team if he is scum.
And again. Trying to convince Glork he's not part of a scumteam instead of trying to convince Glork he's not scummy (which would include SK).Glork, do you find Albert scummy? If so, doesn't it strike you as odd that I find Albert and Shteven scummy, and that I would be scum? I mean maybe this is WIFOM because thier allignments are not confirmed, but I am just trying to find scum like all the other town players...
Summary: Sounded townish at first, I was about to say keep him around cause he's trying hard, but there are an awful lot of SK tells in there.
Albert (who's alt is this? RR?)
The opposite of the famous doc tell. Scummy.Damnit, some of the 2 best players are out...cunning mafia.
Sketchy.ol guys, c'mon, history has taught us that BM is always townie
Albert protected TCS twice and voted me for FOSing TCS, lol.
Curious.The truth is I was really looking forward to playing with JDodge and SpectrumVoid, but alas I am stuck with the likes of BM and you. And so I'm bored.
Terrible.But Glork, why would who I think is scummy matter, when there are more experienced players who can more easily find the scum ?
Unoriginal.I miss the simple times when we could just all follow Glork and if he mislead us we would chop his head off and elect a new leader.
Crappy reasons for voting in general.
Feels too obvious to be scum outing their partners, but of course could be WIFOM. Noted for later.As a mafia, I tend to attack my scumbuddies and go hard after them. So in this case, probably Stcevhen(whatever his name is) or AE.
Whoever's experiment this alt is in clever new personalities, euthanize it. I can't tell if you're scummy or just kinda knuckleheaded, but I can't see you moving the game forward in any way right now.
BattleMage
Reckless.i didnt like Guardians last post. i havent checked this game in quite a while, and i can barely remember why i was voting for YB, so Guardian will suffice as the play for today.
bleh, not much else to go on. Seems borderline townish.
Glork
Came out of the blocks playing seriously. This tells me two things:
1) He's probably not the SK. Cause he's making himself a target instead of playing screwball.
2) He's seemingly not as afraid of being NKed as usual. Possible scumtell.
I read it all and don't need to pbpa it... we want to keep Glork around. Glork, if you're scum please don't NK me. Kill Guardian instead.
Yogurt
Yeah, goofy but earnest. A few dumb things like mason speculation etc, but I get a nonmanipulative read. I saw a huge difference in Yogurt town and Yogurt scum in scumchat and this looks more like town.
Someday this will get you in a lot of trouble, LOL. Not this game though.Well, I dont think MBL is scum at all. I dont think there are any signs of it.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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