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Why not? The righteous people of this town are obviously trying to lynch who they think is scum. If I want to look hip and cool and fit in I should conform to their views, no?In post 1865, Stuffed Crust wrote:Hey! We played together before, once, maybe, I think.
Anyway, I'm glad that you're hopping on the biggest wagon without any articulation, and I know, it's awkward that it's my wagon, and so anything I say in response is going to be taken with a grain of salt, but
Why?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Why is F-16 the most town? I get the impression they are prodding here and there without pushing too hard or havingIn post 1858, Generic wrote:In post 1855, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:75 pages.
I will skip them all.
Who should I sheep and who is obvscum?
Geists, koreanbbq, doom, casso, mcmaraca and mafiaSSK are all dog poop scummy.
If you want a good sheeting bet f16 is the most town so far but his town piling is at a snails pace right now.
Sheep tammy cos she is adorable.concretereads. And 1758 just looks like white-knighting. Only thing I somewhat like is the ending of 1060.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 1887, Stuffed Crust wrote:Fair assessment, but within this town lies a cruel and villainous hive of mafia-sworn evil-doers. They seek to kill the good men of this town via deceit, guns, and nooses. I believe that there are people who are rallying for my lynch who are part of this den of villainy. To push my lynch is to support their twisted, evil ways. I am a member of the town itself, and while the mafia would love to honey your ears with lies such that you won't believe me, I ask for you to grasp at the purity of my confession!
I am town! If you want to find the true villains, don't string me up! Nay! Look unto the sea of bloodthirsty faces, crying out to have me slain. Are they not the true villains?
Ser Arthur Dayne, you've traveled far to come to this wretched place. I ask for your allegiance against those who would plot to see this town in flames. What say ye?
What is your read on Generic?In post 1888, Stuffed Crust wrote:
Dunno what you're talking about. IF you think that I'm scum because my rhetoric is off-side, absurd, goofy, etc, well, isn't that a policy vote more than anything?In post 1875, Generic wrote:unvote,
Vote stuffed crust
I let a lot of the mental patient schtick slide but you are covering having to address anything with it and firing off posts at anything. It's getting old and I think you are desperately trying to troll your way out of your predicament
Also, I've been doing a pretty fucking good job of defending myself against accusations made against me. I don't really think that constitutes as 'trolling'.
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Did the only thing that change between those two is he stopped putting in effort? Or didn't put enough effort?In post 1274, MC Maraca wrote:12. Brian Skies - The dismal amount of effort you're bringing here scares me.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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This sentence is actually bad on so many levels.In post 633, pieguyn wrote:@EVERYONE: if one of my townreads or null-town reads is wrong who do you think it probably is?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Actually I'm down with Pie.
Vote: Pie
Nearly 0 scumhunting, and the only case/scumread is on the dude with the largest wagon
Like I don't actually get the feeling they have any interest of solving this game.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Yeah but likeIn post 1921, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I got the opposite impression from Pieguyn's posts. It felt as if he was scumhunting constantly right from the moment he replaced in. He came in, questioning Sakura, then moved onto DOMO, and then to StuffedCrust. He seemed to have plenty of cases and he listed quite a few scumreads in his reads list. Tell me how he has done 0 scunhunting.
Do you SEE those.
1) They look terribly fake.
2) They look like that thing scum do where they focus on one person and ignore everything else and so they can LOOK like they're actually scumhunting and putting effort while they are literally bouncing off thoughts with one person.
3) There's a difference between attacking people and scumhunting. Scumhunting that leads you to form a scumread on someone actually requires attempt to convince people to vote someone to create pressure and get a reaction.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Okay so likeIn post 1926, Stuffed Crust wrote:
Well, the problem is that I'm not scum this game, so you can't really bus me,In post 1922, Desperado wrote:
you being unable to keep up with the bullshit that you spin as scum is hella alignment indicativeIn post 1920, Stuffed Crust wrote:Furthermore, I can't really see how that's alignment indicative.
you slipped all over the place in xenogears, to the point where i couldn't even be fucked to point them all out to everyone in my dogged pursuit of bussing you
i let you get away in calvin and hobbes and it isn't happening again
and my bullshit is less 'spun' and more just me trying to find scum.
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who do you think is scum.
Because I don't think I have seen a post that wasn't about defending yourself since I entered the game.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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This is quite a bad post for a multitude of reasons.In post 1924, Generic wrote: I was third into geists. And my first three votes were held for a significant period.
But I have isoed you and found you have tactual oh also argued against the accusations amongst the bullshit. So that was a misrep on my part.
And your assessment of me I like a lot, even though I actually think my efforts are better than sub par.
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No wtf I'm trying to get a reaction why do you ruin everything.In post 1931, Desperado wrote:give us threevezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Okay so here's the problem. Getting townreads is the easiest thing in the world, especially when YOU BARELY HAVE SCUMREADS. It doesn't create conflict, and it creates this sense that you're actually achieving something. Number 2, what's more troubling is the fact that YOU TRIED TO NARROW DOWN THAT TOWN LIST. You do realize the majority of people, are, in fact town, right? And at one point you're supposed to go "okay, I have this list of like 12 townreads, now lets try to narrow down the others to scum BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LYNCH SOMEONE". Number 3, while yes, you did mention "several" scumreads, you did them in time intervals (okay there's a difference between mentioning scumreads and actually pushing them - the former is useless without the latter). My biggest problem with you is that you pick one person, huff and puff after them in what looks like an attempt to show you'reIn post 1938, pieguyn wrote:
what the fuck?In post 1919, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Actually I'm down with Pie.
Vote: Pie
Nearly 0 scumhunting, and the only case/scumread is on the dude with the largest wagon
Like I don't actually get the feeling they have any interest of solving this game.
I've been trying to sort most of the players the whole game. I started by getting a bunch of townreads and trying to verify they were all correct, and then I've been pushing on people since then. you completely left out the part where I've been pushing on other people besides SC and how I expressed several scumreads that weren't SC.pushingsuspects, while tunneling everything out.
I don't know, random epiphanies just fall unto me.In post 1938, pieguyn wrote:also, if you haven't read the thread, then how the fuck would you get the idea I've done "nearly 0 scumhunting"?
Because... like... it literally is, most of the time?In post 1938, pieguyn wrote:
and why the fuck do you think this is alignment indicative?In post 1927, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:2) They look like that thing scum do where they focus on one person and ignore everything else and so they can LOOK like they're actually scumhunting and putting effort while they are literally bouncing off thoughts with one person.
It means you had/have no intention of actually pushing someone and was/is putting on a show to look like you care about "figuring" out the scum.In post 1938, pieguyn wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?!In post 1927, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:3) There's a difference between attacking people and scumhunting. Scumhunting that leads you to form a scumread on someone actually requires attempt to convince people to vote someone to create pressure and get a reaction.
Lol wat. It's opportunistic... because there are 2 people voting you? And it's not like I want to create pressure anywhere,In post 1938, pieguyn wrote:your reasons for accusing me are BS. your push on me is opportunistic as fuckno, why would that be beneficial at all?
You caught us me and casso are totally partners.In post 1938, pieguyn wrote:ok so how the fuck have none of you noticed that Casso and Ser Arthur just came up with this wagon on me out of nowhere? that's giving me really bad vibes. it feels like scum lining up a mislynch. I'm not sure about Casso considering Thor hadn't read a lot of the thread, but Ser Arthur is scum and I'm sure of it. sheep me plz o/vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Well there's a natural way to go about it and an ungenuine way to go about it. Sometimes people ARE genuinely lost and find it their best method, but there's a clear distinction between forming townreads and fixating on townhunting. And upon an ISO of you, you don't actually look too bad so meh (well there's too little to make a judgement). And I actually like your casual entrance?In post 1955, zMuffinMan wrote:
can't wait til you get around to doing a read on me because this is pretty much all i've done so far and i'm townser wrote:Okay so here's the problem. Getting townreads is the easiest thing in the world, especially when YOU BARELY HAVE SCUMREADS. It doesn't create conflict, and it creates this sense that you're actually achieving somethingvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Yeah I make an attempt to remember to change it when I enter games b/c I know it gets crazy annoying for people using smartphones >_>In post 1939, Stuffed Crust wrote:Ser Arthur, I appreciate your new profile image.
Can you please elaborate on the bolded in like one to two sentences? Or just link me if you've said it somewhere else?In post 1939, Stuffed Crust wrote:People that I have conviction about being scum and want to see lynched:
Desperado
KoreanBBQ
Mc Maraca
People that I'm suspicious of and want to see pressured:
Pretty much all you guys, but especially
Cephrir
Pieguyn
Casso
Sakura
zMuffin
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Also, don't think I mentioned this (I did mention it to empire before entering however), but I'm moving back home tomorrow, and I'm gonna be in the hospital monday which might affect me tuesday also, so I might not be very active the next few days.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Because he like... legit posted 3 minutes before? People only exists to me in this game once they start posting after my replace in (unless I already know they really well?). Also I kinda liked that post so read his ISO and liked it on a gut level too.In post 1999, Tammy wrote:
Why is goodmorning the first person you iso'd?In post 1882, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:goodmorning is probably town.
I'm not? I said UNLESS people can link me to a game where she was scum and imitated her to town game this good (because I haven't played with you in a good while?). Also no offense but if you were scum I think I'd rather someone else link me than you saying you can't imitate your town game this goodIn post 1999, Tammy wrote:
If you feel even slightly unsure about me why don't you address me directly?In post 1883, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Tammy is highly town too unless she started being able to imitate her town aggressiveness? Idk someone who recently played with her can link me to something like that.
I'm trying to find my Cait Sith picture >_>In post 1999, Tammy wrote:(Also if you're going to hang out at the gold saucer, could you get an avatar that is more pleasing to me?)vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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The fact that I still can't get a concrete read on him is already infuriating but there's the fact that he seems to hop from one target to the next forgetting EVERYTHING from the last, like restarting fresh every once in a while or something. Add that to a generic OMGUSvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I have a feeling like you think I'm talking about you when I used generic when I actually mean the regular definition of it...In post 2018, Generic wrote:How is it OMGUS?
I love how you keep just tapping at people rather than actually going for a proper punch Arthur.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Also if we all think really hard we can wagon F-16 because I know that half probably want it in the depths of their heart. I just have to awaken it for them.
(Some of their most recent posts are fine but the ones before that are )vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Basically most of their posts between the mc vote and unvote are terrible and look like they're slowly trying to back up from what they realize is a horrible vote.In post 2298, Stuffed Crust wrote:what's up with the falcon?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Hi I noticed you post here and there but you have no content since I entered the game.In post 2341, Sakura Hana wrote:Hi Bert!
Do you like... have scum reads and can you switch off SC kthx.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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haha but isn't Tammy voting someone else? Why sheep that person and not someone else she is scumreading, why Nero?In post 2349, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Tammy you can read Nero right?
Because I'm just gonna sheep your read on him.
Also it's nice to feel comfortable when there's a lazy club around, but my worries are there's scum in it
She's scumreading nero? I don't even know I'm just trying to get her read on him so I can actually put a read to that slot because I'm terrible at reading nero.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Oh okay I actually thought you forgot about those and were going to actually give me scumreads.In post 2365, Sakura Hana wrote:
I posted some reads not too long ago and I already said I have no scumreads.In post 2348, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Do you like... have scum reads and can you switch off SC kthx.
Oh well.
Sigh.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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So like... what.In post 2463, Brian Skies wrote:Vote: MuffinMan
Going to try and catch up tomorrow and figure out what's going on this game.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I think all I want from you is a concrete scumlist and want to see you pushing some scumreads *shrug*
Also I can't read Nacho and I can't read Thor so there's no way in hell I'm attempting to read a hydra of the two. The aggression they have put forth right now can honestly come from either alignment for them, but I've kinda liked Nacho's posts.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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a) Literally anyone with a brain can foresee that your wagon won't kick off today so there is like no point to me wasting my vote there.In post 2475, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
How about youIn post 2469, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Also I'm very tempted to move my vote to F-16.
a) Actually do it
b) Explain why you find me scummy and try to dig deeper
Talking about your temptations isn't helping the game.
b) I'm actually quite content with watching your interactions with mc tyvm.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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It would be lovely if you can link a few games so I can see if you actually believe what you're talking about or not.In post 2480, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I also have a very good reason to think that scum would try a discrediting tactic with Tammy since I've seen it happen beforevezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Okay
I'll go look at that again.
Anyway while you're here does the muffin scumread on casso look natural to you or not. I mean the way he just votes casso first with weak reasoning then strengths it after casso attack them. (Okay I'm probably not getting my point across but does it look like they're trying to make a camping vote look better by putting forth reasons after they're attacked so it looks like they're initial vote was stronger or not? <-- probably still confusing but w/e )vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I agree with all this except the SC readIn post 2632, geists wrote:Not so Town
9. Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon) - GiF said not town.
15. Sakura Hana - could see a scum team with Sakura and pieguyn due to the way their back and forth ended without a sense of resolution. It's hard to fault anyone for lack of participation over the last several days, but I'm not that comfortable with Sakura atm.
10. pieguyn SonOfZeus - He's not doing some stuff that I am used to seeing him do when he's town, particularly cross-checking his reads with other players and frequently asking people what they think about other players' posts. The Sakura interactions didn't feel quite right somehow.
20. Desperado - such a huge and intentional meta change feels town, but I dunno. I feel his more recent posts are coming off more engaged and hence more town.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
chesskid3: I play on NA because i enjoy my freedom.-
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Take a guess. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with a deadline approaching and a select number of people required to be on a lynch.In post 2680, zMuffinMan wrote:
considering i didn't even really do what you apparently wanted me to do, what made you unvote me?sad wrote:Unvote
See above.In post 2680, zMuffinMan wrote:also, when did you change your mind about casso? coz your 2471 makes it sound like you were leaning town on them, if anything, and 2633 makes it seem like you don't think it's a good wagonvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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