NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[UberNinja]

damn, I probably shouldn't have joined this game. 14 pages before I even know it's open? fuuuuuck this

and i am behind in all my other games too, which means my accuracy pretty much goes right down the shitter

we might as well just give up if matt and reck are scum

[UberNinja]

PEDIT PEDIT PEDIT OH FUCK YOU THREAD. FUCK YOU HARD

[UberNinja]

Herobrine is probably town, pending more reading.

Boner Police feels town but not as strong.

mozamis' post 6 feels like he's overdoing it because he's nervous

I don't like PeregrineV's comment in post 8. It feels... off.

going to bed

[UberNinja]

I'm going to hold my tongue about the above post, but I am not pleased.

Nononono no... Speak out, by all means.

I think UberBoober is off his game.

And what the fuck is this comment?

[UberNinja]

no, as in, who the fuck are you to tell me i'm off my game, and how the fuck would you even know if i was off my game?

[UberNinja]

yeah i was probably dicking around on the internet lol

ever heard of tv tropes, cracked, or youtube?

or do you think i am scum and took an hour to come up with that shit because i was worried of ruffling someones feathers lol

[UberNinja]

no, as in, who the fuck are you to tell me i'm off my game, and how the fuck would you even know if i was off my game?

I've barely seen a lick of scumhunting from you.
This is not normal and I am worried for your health.

......................................................................................

shut the fuck up

[UberNinja]

no, as in, who the fuck are you to tell me i'm off my game, and how the fuck would you even know if i was off my game?

I've barely seen a lick of scumhunting from you.
This is not normal and I am worried for your health.

......................................................................................

shut the fuck up

Why the hostility?
I-I thought we were friends?

Because you are either scum or you're being a complete and total asstard.

I am trying to be a good IC in another game, and I've had a long week at work, and also real life is kicking me in the ass, and honestly I really don't need that shit, especially from someone nowhere near as good as I consider myself to be (pompous asshole warning... watch out guys)

[UberNinja]

Anyway, tomorrow is the catch up day. I saw something about a day cop. This is getting exciting.

But don't get the wrong idea, my attitude is still this:



p-edit @ boner: lol

[UberNinja]

Skimming now.

Also, I was prodded which is fucking retarded.
It has been 30 hours, and I said I'd read this weekend anyway. Fuck you

[UberNinja]

k catchup time. gonna post each of these posts like it was made when the game was not already 30 pages long.

Why the fuck are people RVS'ing when there are a few decent leads already?

Anyone that RVSs now is just shitty scum trying to prolong the bullshit period of the game

~MattP

FOS BonerPolice

what the hell is this FOS for?

Boner Police is 100% Town. For Certain.

you're fucking retarded

FOS BonerPolice

I expected better from you

You know I'm a lighthearted guy.

VOTE: Herobrine

why are you making excuses?

Vote: Bitmap

Hey Boner, Om does this sort of shit all the time with the fluff posting. What makes this so scummy?

Vote: Bitmap

Om hasn't posted in here, nor confirmed, and isn't a hydra.

good catch

confirms my bitmap vote

I feel like Boner is on another level of scumhunting

tyvm

oh god

I don't see how anyone could have legitimate reads, I think Boner Police's hurry out of RVS seems kind of town though

its something reck always does i think
not sure about matt.

either way its not too conclusive either way

and it's extremely possible to have legit reads by p1

Someone took my first two posts seriously? That's cute. I took page 1 of this game about as seriously as a marathon game.

what the fuck is THIS

unvote vote Herobrine

This sounds forced to me. You think you have one good lead in me, but that's sketchy at best, and you're bitching about people keeping us in RVS on page 1 when over half of the game hasn't posted. Seems legit.

Lol

Cute

Unvote

VOTE: Bitmap

this is great and all, but did you see herobrine's post 53

what

the

fuck

vote that shit

I'm getting my ass lynched sometime before D3. I can smell it.

and this post feels much townier soooo

Oh for fuck sakes Matt, I was just fucking around and it was still RVS and still is.

Your FOS of Boner Police didn't look random, though. You quoted a specific post suggesting something was suspicious about it.

Unvote
Vote: Bitmap

~Rob

P-edit: That was a great cross-post.

And herobrine hopping on feels even worse. herobrine is about 2x as scummy as bitmap right now

VOTE: jacob savage

have you even posted yet if so I can't remember

why u makin an excuse not to take a stance on what's goin on, bro?

herobrine or bitmap? make your choice

Also Bitmap is softly trying to push a Herobrine lynch this ENTIRE TIME with shit like post 76 when he has "no reads"

I think you're spouting bullshit Matt. That last post about scum doesn't play sloppy is pretty bad.

VOTE: BonerPolice

This wagon needs to get going.

Lolk Bitmap is scum GG I'm right

this doesn't feel good.

mattp/boner police gets an igmeoy

Bitmap just went from calling me GLEAMING TOWN to SCUM because of "one sloppy post"

and this post feels like frustrated scum

upgraded to FOS

You're also ALWAYS paranoid about me when you don't know my alignment but this game you auto-glorified me for a fucking ridiculous reason being that I "am ashamed of my reads" when I am absolutely not ashamed of my reads and never showed that I was

HEY BITMAP SHOW ME WHERE I WAS ASHAMED ABOUT MY READS

You literally suck as scum go fucking die

and here's the "show me where _____" post that scum make so much

fuck it.

unvote vote mattp

and then matt makes like 3 more rapid fire posts which shows he's ruffled

k i'm good w/this.

also hero is prob scum with him, which is interesting because mattp made up bullshit excuses to stay off the herobrine wagon and on the bitmap wagon

So Boner Police and Bitmap are town then.

hahahahahahah no

Show me EXACTLY where I was "ashamed about my read on you" Bitmap

Get better at hiding your boner

another "show me exactly where ____________" post

everyone vote this shit immediately. no wonder reck replaced out and left matt holdnig the bag. it's because matt was fucking claiming scum in thread.

Show me EXACTLY where I was "ashamed about my read on you" Bitmap

Get better at hiding your boner

I ain't going to break a site rule just to answer your question.

really now.

you were already fucking talking about ongoing games

and now is where you draw the line? you're being stupid

He's posting a lot, and with very little time between his posts, it suggests spontoneity and a clean conscience.
Same goes for you.

He's posting a lot, and with very little time between his posts, it suggests spontoneity and a clean conscience.
Same goes for you.

Hate to break it to you, I also post pretty seamlessly as scum on several occasions.

bitmap is 100% right here for the record

Post it Bitmap and if I believe you we can quickwagon mozamis how about that

and now he's attempting to reconcile with bitmap. how nice

My name is MattP and I feel a heavy weight on my shoulders when I read someone wrong on a forum mafia game - Matt P

fuckin lol


gonna post this now and make other posts every 4 - 5 pages of shit

[UberNinja]

VOTE: Bitmap

Wagons are good.

yep they are, but not that one.

Boner Police is 100% Town. For Certain.

100% Confident? On page 2 no less.

vote: JacobSavage

mhm

maybe not scum but really fucking stupid in any case

Vote Mozamis, read his ISO it's pretty funny

Am I supposed to be all WOW and then vote him as I read his ISO?

Vote Mozamis, read his ISO it's pretty funny

Am I supposed to be all WOW and then vote him as I read his ISO?

I wasn't that wow'ed tbh.

same

nothing too spectacular about mozamis atm
except i did notice his first post felt a little weird.

Only thing significant I saw in his ISO was the use of "arse", which is far superior a word to "ass", thus I'm not voting him, not yet anyway.

well we are playing POSH mafia after all

I'm going to sheep the MattP/xRECKx hydra all game. Just so we're clear.

useless/worthless/fucking stupid considering that slot is scum

Also, screw you guys and your constant posting, I'm going to play some poker for an hour or two, I expect a barrage of new posts in that time. Might actually read up later.

probably town.

that's definitely what i said when i saw the thread exploding
it's much better to scumhunt during threadsplosions without influencing them yourselves

it's only good to forcibly insert yourself when there's little to no shit going down

and that is the time to strike anyway

This is going to be my sole out of hydra post.

We are killing Bitmap today. Make it so.

vote:Bitmap

Leaning town on NC.

i c what u did ther

A Wise Man once said "unto us a child is born", but a worldly-wise man once said that "whenever I feel sad, I stop feeling sad and feel awesome instead". Really, my friend, which would you rather be?

this sounds so familiar but i can't put my finger on it

................was it me?

Also a potential softclaim

Are you the type to point out shit you shouldn't?

hey look at you pointing it out again

noted. if vifam is town chkflip is scum

and
if mattp is town chkflip is prob scum as well

My opening post was an attempt to be posh.
Page 1 of a posh mafia game seemed a good place to attempt that.
I forgot the World Is Full Of Crashing Bores.
The rest of your "case" is pure balderdash, Boner old bean

great so do you have any reads?

Okay I forgot everything I just read.
MattP tell me who to vote.

Bitmap says you scummy.

You scum?

... When the fuck did I say that? You're just spouting bullshit now.

Okay I forgot everything I just read.
MattP tell me who to vote.

Bitmap says you scummy.

You scum?

... When the fuck did I say that? You're just spouting bullshit now.

Whoops. I messed up.

oh hey, now i know who Grit is. thx dude

Om of the Nom do you always play mafia like a teenage girl

i fucking lol'd

Okay I forgot everything I just read.
MattP tell me who to vote.

When people come into the thread and ask me who they should vote, that's not endearing that's frustrating

Read the thread, see if you agree with me, which you should, and then vote mozamis

oh what a cross you bear

stop trying to pretend like you are town and tell him who you think is scum instead of skirting aroudn the issue you little bitch

oh wait you can't, because you don't have any real scum reads

I remember when I was playing with RainbowDash. I would just sheep her reads and mindlessly follow her. I was scum in that game. This happened twice.

she's not a girl, she's a guy ;D

Oh for fuck's sake, he does this stupid scum claim in every game. Can we just lynch him to teach him a lesson?

VOTE: om

i'm intrigued. what do you mean?

I don't remember who brought it up but someone said they were votes in PM's and I believed them <_<

simply reading the op could have cleared that up, dumbass

VOTE: mollie

First she moans at majiffy for disappearing, like an hour after or whatever after we start, then votes jacob, asking if he's posted yet, which is super easy to check. Lame reasons to wag her finger.

this is also a good catch

i have rev as pretty strongly town for now

This Reverend guy is way too jumpy.

no.

he is making good posts

and you're not

yea rev is town

I was holding off on defending him to see what he said but yep

Also chk is obv town

Glad to confirm my town reads moving right along

this post sounds fake as fuck

I'm not liking reverend right now. He's slightly scum in my book. Too many votes with no times for reactions. Nothing but bouncing like a kid in a bounce house.

yeah except this is exactly why he's prob town

well, one of the reasons, anyway

Rev is usually jumpy as town but he's being more jumpy than usual...

oh really? and how jumpy is he, usually? in your opinion?

I'm not liking reverend right now. He's slightly scum in my book. Too many votes with no times for reactions. Nothing but bouncing like a kid in a bounce house.

VOTE: aj
VOTE: om
VOTE: bitmap
VOTE: vifam
VOTE: PV
VOTE: Nero
VOTE: aj
VOTE: josh
VOTE: UN
VOTE: Majiffy
VOTE: mozamis

stop being a douche matt. you're clearly trying to act like the class clown here, just because you're trying to inflate your iso so people can't see your scummy-as-fuck posts...

but it's not working for me, boy

[UberNinja]

Also, tell MattP that Hero is scum

The only post Reck's made was the one signed by him

Reck will sign all his posts. I will not. When reck forgets to sign, it means that I've posted

matt knows that hero is scum... he's fucking scumbuddies with him

look at how he ignores that shit and talks about reck instead of hero

obvious as fuck

Come on, PerV. You're better than tha-- PAHAHAHAHAHA. Who am I kidding?

Not a fan of people saying "I'm town." Prove it.

don't like this post at all

it feels like scum who thinks things are going in their direction

Bitmap is conf-VI and really shouldn't be lynched D1 since he'll oust his partners, if he's scum, given more time to post reads and what have you.

I don't like that this is the most competent I've seen you

Maybe you're just sincerely improving

That's looks like a backhanded compliment but it's not

i dont know what to make of this post at all


but i do know that if one of bitmap and chkflip is scum, that it's chkflip

Bitmap is town town town
Chkflip is town town town
I am Innocent is town town town
Vifam is town town town
Reverend is town town town
Aj the epic is town town town
Majiffy is town town town
Boner Police is town (note: just town X1, the perfect blend)

pretending you're town here for a sec:

chkflip -

X

i am innocent - maybe
vifam - probably
reverend - probably
aj the epic -

X

majiffy -

X

boner police -

X

Guys stop posting. I need to sleep. Seriously, just magically find out who scum is and lynch them. K.

~mist

scummy as fuck post

Vote: Alien_Penguin

I like that vote. Explain it

what the fuck?

if you like it then why does he have to explain it
also why haven't you mentioned penguin alien yet???

ohhh yea cause you're a fucking scumbag

so hero is a hydra of rob and some person named mist?

Herobrine (hydra of Mist7676 and Rob13)

yeahhhh you're scum too

mozamos or w/e the fuck his name is for starters

again

trying to misspell someone's name and say "whatever his name is" is scummy as FUCK

probscum so far =

mattp/boner
herobrine
chkflip
pirate mollie

probtown so far =

reverend
vifam
prolly bitmap
prolly Perev
om of the nom

[UberNinja]

also I want to get this straight for my spreadsheet....mattp and reck are a hydra?

yes, because it's THIS difficult to LOOK AT THE FUCKING OP

"hay guys i need ur help to be any kind of competent, plz dont think i'm scum, kthx"

we might as well just give up if matt and reck are scum

Why?

Are you going to buddy me or be consistently paranoid with me?

Are you going to be an "issue" UN?

i'm going to fucking lynch you, that's what i'm going to do

i hate people snoring
i had to sleep in the same bed as my dad once
it took me like 2 hours to get to sleep

best way to combat snoring is:

put something in their open mouth, and pretend to be asleep yourself
when they choke it out, they'll look over at you, peacefully asleep, and wonder wtf is going on
then, groggy, half-asleep, and embarrassed, they'll try to go back to sleep themselves

works like a fucking charm

Don't I always?

Also my vote is on scum, what more do you want?

i don't recall that voting scum is enough to win in this game

you also have to get other people to vote scum

also the "what more do you want" is scummy as fuck in this case

Don't I always?

Also my vote is on scum, what more do you want?

idk

Never mind, you're town, waste of discussion

and this "never mind you're town" shit is scummy as hell too

Herobrine is probably town, pending more reading.

Boner Police feels town but not as strong.

mozamis' post 6 feels like he's overdoing it because he's nervous

I don't like PeregrineV's comment in post 8. It feels... off.

going to bed

om... i take it back. you were right. i WAS off...
so fucking off i can't even begin to describe it

but still, you have no place to tell me i'm off because you're you and i'm me

lol

moziperson is obvconftown and has no idea how to act

I'm flattered, but why I am "obvconftown"?
And, since I am town, why I would I want to "act"?

you're not. he's just scum and trying to "seed out soft alliances" based on flattery

trust me i've seen him do it as scum before

I'm not sure if you just went up on my "stupid" or "scum" meter, but I'm pretty sure it was one of those.

this post feels pretty fucking town. and its awesome

No, because you don't demonstrate original thought.

and this post nails the previous one home.

add majiffy to prob-town list

What's with the 'tude Mozambique? You're kind of overdoing the snark, and not really accomplishing anything at all.

Do I really have to spend the rest of the game calling you "Gaybriel"? My name is mozamis...

this reply is actually worthy of a minor town read

i like that

This is going to be my sole out of hydra post.

But I need to make one more.

Mod:

My half of the hydra will be V/LA over the weekend.


Btw, TheReverand is pretty much confscum. Moz is bad, but not as bad.
I'll elaborate as soon as the damn hydra account is activated. (It STILL isn't.)

mastin, what are you seeing that i'm not?

rev feels very town to me

All right, I just daycopped om to be sure and he's scum

VOTE: Om

oh, so here is the infamous daycoppery

gambit? or what. guess i'll find out

i don't beleive it right now though

Is anyone here a day-vig?

aallllright i read a lot of om/nom discourse and its all pretty suspect

omnom could be scum but it could also be mattp

either way the fact that mattp isnt still pushing it is pretty suspect

and this question by bitmap takes the cake

FTR I'm p sure om is town but if he continues to do this shit I bet I'll doubt my read in 10 pages

i will shit a brick if this is a town slot

Is anyone here a day-vig?

Nah, don't have any day abilities, sorry.

Unvote
Vote Om

BTW, Bitmap's looking more town recently.

~Rob

this wagon hop even after the whole fake shit is even scummier

Honestly the Moz wagon is pretty lazy but since it's built by MattP everyone is just gonna roll with it, which is kind of dumb

100% agreed

at the end of the day i dont think mozam is that scummy

Hero will prob be the lynch today, but there's like 6 people that need to speak up before that happens

i am speaking up. i have spoken up

lynch hero for all i care, that fucker is scuuuuummmmyyy

and so are you.

this "hero will prob be the lynch today but _______" shit doesn't fool me

(PS i dont like post 483)

Dat... Hydramished?

saw this too

thought the same fucking thing

UNVOTE: mozamis
VOTE: Herobrine

yawn

are you going to do anything at all this game besides be totally fucking useless?

no, as in, who the fuck are you to tell me i'm off my game, and how the fuck would you even know if i was off my game?

I've barely seen a lick of scumhunting from you.
This is not normal and I am worried for your health.

yeah cause its been 2 days and the thread exploded immediately motherfucker

what do you expect me to do, cum all over the thread with you fools and make fakeclaims like its all one big joke?

i have a fucking life on weekdays

shut the fuck up

How about be productive and people would stop looking at you with cocked eyebrows?

Crazy theory, I know, but it just might work.

loooooooool @ this motherfucker telling anyone to "be productive"

also, he said "cocked eyebrows" and "crazy i know, but it might work" which brings the tally up to

weasel words + hypocrisy + qualifying statements

= scum

chkflip needs to die. with death.

Not that I don't appreciate being called obv-town, but NY 159 was my first scum game. Or maybe just my first non-micro scum game. It's a valid observation; I do suck as I almost never roll scum, but I do like to think my scum game has improved a little since NY 159. I'm going to assume good intent since that was just kind of volunteered out of nowhere. In my experience scum usually wait until my wagon is already rolling to defend me.

Also:

UNVOTE: Mozamis

Thinking about where to go from here. Just read Penguin's iso and I actually like her posts a little better now. I didn't really get the Hero-wagon until I re-read #374. First point is terrible and the testing the waters stuff seems terrible and reaching. Plus the jump to Om (who would seriously just be a policy lynch) without commenting on the switch rubs me kind of wrong.

VOTE: Hero

aaaaaaand here is the kind of post i expect from zabriel

bravo.

--

aaaaand, after reading 542 and 543 by hero, i feel like there's a derp one that's town and a derp one that's scum

what the fuck is going on.

--

aaaand, om at the bottom of p22 is feeling really unlike om, because since when does om ever systematically read things?

--

i am innocent's post 553 is a good post and gives me a town lean on him

--

Town:
-MattP
-Vifam
-Reverend
-I am Innocent
-Zabriel
-Penguin_alien
-Om
-Bitmap

Probtown
-Majiffy
-Borkjerfan
-Pirate Mollie

Null
-Uberninja
-chkflip
-theunderarchivers (Nero and Mastin2)
-Josh Lyman (where the fuck is this guy)
-Aj the epic

Probscum
-PeregrineV
-JacobSavage
-Mozamis
-Herobrine
-Lord Mhork

this will be useful regardless of your flip

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4673048

This is a terrible case that you completely manipulated to make Pirate Mollie look back. I dout you believe your case, Hero, and I can only see scum intent for trying to rationalize a relational tell between Pirate Mollie and Mozamis like that. It's so incredibly convoluted that it is outright ridiculous.

Mhork is being lynched today. I would also appreciate not seeing JacobSavage around when tomorrow starts. We can worry about Mozamis and Hero in day phase since they bleed scum so hard.

why are you still trying to keep hero alive until tonight

eh?

[quote="

IAI's and Hero's same read on Mollie means that a read on them should be the same?

no but both Hero and IAI have some similar talking points.

+Mollie does look pretty scummy.

Mollie: Why are you not voting your scum reads?

quite a good thing to ask.

This is classic Rob-scum, I promise you that.

okay great

lets hear your opinions on other people

thanks in advance

Mastin and Nero out of hydra posts

Spoiler:

Hi, guys.

As a warning, our hydra hasn't been activated quite yet. So we can't play yet.

This is going to be my sole out of hydra post.

We are killing Bitmap today. Make it so.

vote:Bitmap

This is going to be my sole out of hydra post.

But I need to make one more.

Mod:

My half of the hydra will be V/LA over the weekend.


Btw, TheReverand is pretty much confscum. Moz is bad, but not as bad.
I'll elaborate as soon as the damn hydra account is activated. (It STILL isn't.)

fuck it. Tired of waiting on my hydra.

vote:chk

wanted to what happened.

this is a townie thing to do

I think the Mastin/N hydra is scum

I want to expand on that but I'm not really willing right now, maybe later

here's hoping its a good explanation because it goes against what i've noticed so far

I meant only to subtlely insinuate. The rule breaking was completely unintentional, but I should probably be lynched for fucking the town's deadline off at this point. /:

Recent cocky chk-town.

Ironically (?) I may or may not have been wrong about Rob13's alignment in that game.

the fact that you are even giving meta to say

"see, i really am cocky as town sometimes"

is scummy as fuck

one or both of you and matt are scum, i'd bet my left nut

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^^^
Placeholder til I get around to it.

HAHA

no but seriuosly though.

lol InDesign. Town.

lol how about fucking NOPE

and if you think that's from indesign then you should probably get out more

Either way, chkflip has looked town as fuck in this game.

~Rob

this throws me off quite a bit, not only what's being said, but who's saying it

Hypothesis: The reducing of the bankable deadline confirms chkflip as town because the mod action would be made to hurt chkflip's faction. The mod would never respond to scum-chkflip breaking a rule by helping the scum.

though this sounds exactly like something scum would say to faux-clear his buddy

or at least to buddy up to a townie, if chkflip is somehow magically town

either way it makes herobrine look bad

Hypothesis: Don't talk about game mechanics like that because it's unfair to the mod

and this "shhhh dont tell anyone!" is basically saying "shhh tell EVERYONE! DID YOU SEE THIS??? LOOK AT THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE!"

i.e. conspiracy written all over this motherfucker

Herobrine should def be the vig kill

Nah.

Also, still waiting on someone to show me a case as to why I'm scum. I expect to be waiting for a looooooooooooong time. I'd really really like it to come from someone other than Boner when it is eventually done because I'm relatively sure Boner is town already. I'm also relatively sure Boner wouldn't write up the case even if I wanted him/them to.

~Rob

here goes the "where's the case on me?" defense

also the "i'm not really worried about being vigged" bravado

omg

lynch this with fire

or vig it, but w/e

Yeah I'm not much of a case guy either, I can't stand games where it's just case case case argument argument argument, I get bored of those and I check out in an instant

this this this this this

oh hai, did I just out my meta?

you're fucking ITCHING to be lynched, aren't you


breaking here. see you in a few more min

[UberNinja]

Whyyyyyy

What the hell he hasn't even posted out of RVS

'cause he's your buddy.

'cause he's your buddy.

Okay.

Attempting to lynch a non entity in this game really isn't gonna help

oh so you know he's not a member of the mafia. Thanks for scum claiming.

Okay this whole "I'm voting random people to test reactions" isn't town and it doesn't make you look town.

Can we lynch Archives now

Who said I'm doing that? I did vote CHK for a reason but I was and didn't want to admit it so I said that I'm "testing reactions" but yea...I'm not doing that.

-N

nero backtracking doesn't look great here

BONER POLICE TRANSFORMS INTO MATTP

what a surprise

The recent interaction between Vifam and Archive has got me feeling a lot more positive about Vifam than I was, and not so jazzed about Archive.

ditto

We should also consider ending this day soon as we were penalized 10 days and day 1 is essentially random anyhow.

have you not learned anything in your time here

day 1 is NOT random. day 1 is the most useful day there IS in a mafia game

The days will be more useful to us later. If we can have somebody lynched before February I think that would be good.

no, no, no, no, yes before february, but the rest of this, no.

Sidenote: I just put in two and a half shifts with the Trevor Project, plus an hour of overtime, so I've been listening to depressed and suicidal kids for 6 hours. I am going to get food, and probably smoke a big fat bowl of marijuana. Possibly in reversed order. Stay frosty kids. Will be back when I've managed to unwind.

cool story bro

If anyone doesn't have townreads on Majiffy and Vifam they should throw in the towel

i'll remember you said this

-Pirate Mollie
-Uberninja
-theunderarchivers (Nero and Mastin2)
-Josh Lyman (where the fuck is this guy)
-PeregrineV
-JacobSavage
-Mozamis
-Herobrine
-Lord Mhork

^At least 4 of the 5 scums are here positive

again, pretending you're town here:

pirate - yes
me -

X

nero-mastin - maybe
josh lyman - dude has flaked/is flaking, i.e. you don't know shit, i.e.

X

peregrinev -

X

jacob savage - okay, maybe
mozamis -

X

herobrine - yes
lord mhork - no idea about this guy, but probably

X

just because i like

X

's

Also not liking Zabiano Domingo Rodriguez' most recent post.

are you referring to zabriel?

cut this shit out plz

Okay, uhh... I'm going back to mollie as scum read.

VOTE: mollie

was there ever any doubt in your mind?

if so, why?

We're lynching Mhork today WTF

you need to show why he's scum or else i'm not seeing it

seriously i just read 27 pages and i am not seeing it

if you are town, IF, then you are doing it very, very wrong

cmoooonnnn

im obvtown so just sheep me!!!

no, me

mozamis is probscum too, but mhork is the lynch today penguin babe

so what about all the people you called scum for the first TWENTY PAGES OF THE GAME

huh???

I don't fully understand the Mhork case. Gonna iso.

i may have to as well because apparently it's open and shut according to mr. boner police over there

for some reason, i have a townish read on mattp now that he's mattp, but it was solidly scum when he wasn't

fml

Gonna quote things as they pop out.

Spoiler:

Vifram is prolly town if he's post junk like ongoing games, I think. I can't see scum being ballsy enough to risk a modkill over something that stupid.

In post 53, Herobrine wrote:
Someone took my first two posts seriously? That's cute. I took page 1 of this game about as seriously as a marathon game.

This sounds forced to me. You think you have one good lead in me, but that's sketchy at best, and you're bitching about people keeping us in RVS on page 1 when over half of the game hasn't posted. Seems legit.

This pings my bad feels. I'm always unnerved when someone passes off their actions as not serious. He could be telling the truth, but nonetheless it catches my eye.

I'm also pretty sure bonerpolice is town based on general aggressiveness and dickish behaviour. Not sure about bitmap at the moment. Mozamis can be semi scum because boner makes good points in 143.

Sigh... Sure...

What about mollie? Is she obvtown too?

I'm trying to look at these from both perspectives. The scum thinking is kind of easy to see. I have to look harder to pull town off it.

For the few posts with any content he's got he does seem to rattle off whatever he's thinking. However, his thoughts have been kind of useless since speculating about whether breaking game rules is more town or more scum is dumb, and Boner/Matt's status as town has never really been in questions. I'm not liking how he ended his comment on Hero. It was looking like he was coming up with a secondary read and then he hedged it at the last second. It's enough.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mork

forgive me, i'm not seeing/feeling it

have fun w/that

Prob scum but you vote someone else in the same vote. Cute. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

'cause I'm town. Stop playing against a town wincon.

what the fuck kind of response is this??

Okay I just did a quick ISO of Mhork and I'm not getting the same kind of feel from his posts that I get from his town game.
VOTE: Mhork
This is a good place to put my vote while I'm still not entirely caught up.

if i hadn't gotten a town read on you from before, this definitely WOULDN'T help

what a fucking senseless vote

ponies and unicorns

aaaaammeeeeenn

...by the way, here's a gift for those who haven't yet born witness to this gem...

Spoiler:

mod should go kill himself

and don't you dare get all sensitive on me maestro you know I have nothing but love for you

what the fuck is this post

m,od buddying at this point in the game seems like a scum claim, especially given how scummy pirate mollie is

still, mod posting that pic was out of line, i dont care who his friends are

What happened with my last post? I'm not that high.

if you say so

what the fuck was that all about then

As of p26, i find it odd that Vifam isn't voting. (If this out of date by now, apologies). Sure, other people aren't voting as well. But Vifam has been quite active.
Why no vote, Vifam?

although Vifam ,why the Archive vote fo rno reason?

you really must not be paying attention, if you think it's for no reason

Oh my town reads are basically all the really active people. Herobrine, MattP, Bitmap, Majiffy, Mollie. Prob Vifam although quite often he seems to just agree with whatever MattP has said. Still, I've sheeped myself, so it's not a scum read, just something I'm looking at.
Everyone else null or pos scum.

okay, remind me to never again listen to your opinion, ever

UNVOTE

Looking at Penguin's ISO, at least he's contributing to the game and scumhunting. If he's good scum, then fair play to him. We can get him later on. I'd rather get rid of someone who isn't really playing. As much as I love The West Wing:

VOTE JOSH LYMAN

you're fucking hilarious you know that

29 pages into the game, and you vote for a lurker?

............

VOTE: Josh Lynman

Bitmap was completely correct on Om to the Nom being scummy before Nom posted... Just saying. Like prophecy.

This is a terrible post did anyone even follow up on this?
Also as of page 8 Vifam is not looking so hot, same with Bitmap and PereV.

why is it so terrible? you were pretty scummy early on

honestly if you hadn't responded the way you did to the daycop thing, i would probably have you as scum right now

No but he's scum and you're probably not gonna get anywhere with that Om wagon

OM WAGON, HO!

VOTE: Om of the Nom

Okay this kind of oppositional behaviour comes from town so Bitmap is off the hook.

okay, this reminds me of something i have seen scum do before, actually

calling someone town who just voted you takes the wind out of their sails somewhat
especially if it's BEACUSE they voted you -- or at least so goes the mantra

penguin who's vote looks opportunistic and hero cos it should be obvious I am town. that is where I am starting from.

why aren't you dishing

god mollie you're really bad at this

you're not good enough at this to tell people they're bad at this

make note of this, and never do it again

What's Om's meta? Vifam and P_M are on his list, and he's reading them completely wrong to me.

if you think pirate mollie is town then you're really, really bad at this

but i agree on vifam being town

Sorry mozamis, somehow I confused your early reference to pirate_mollie with a vote. But I appreciate you addressing the question anyways.

UNVOTE: mozamis
VOTE: Lord Mhork

okay, this is a lot of people voting mhork

i should probably see what the fuss is all about

VOTE: jacob savage

have you even posted yet if so I can't remember

On my wagon for a couple hours, then gets bored and jumps on someone else. I don't know how I feel about this.

Wagon jumping is usually sketch, right?

actually, looking back, this post does look pretty damn terrible

especially the bolded part

Prior to that I'm going to post my CURRENT reads list, w/o looking at either of the wagons

Town:

-MattP
-Vifam
-Reverend
-I am Innocent
-Zabriel
-Penguin_alien
-Om
-Bitmap
-Majiffy
-chkflip

Probtown

-Aj the epic
-Borkjerfan
-Pirate Mollie

Null

-Uberninja
-Josh Lyman (where the fuck is this guy)

Probscum

-theunderarchivers (Nero and Mastin2)
-PeregrineV
-JacobSavage
-Mozamis
-Herobrine

Scum

-Lord Mhork

having made so many lists, you have to be town. or at least, you're helpful enough that i dont want to lynch you on D1

writing you off for now.

Unvote

pirate mollie - 5 [L-6] Josh Lyman, Lord Mhork, Herobrine, I Am Innocent, the_underachievers

Lord Mhork - 5 [L-6] JacobSavage, chkflip, zabriel, Om of the Nom, MattP, Bitmap, penguin_alien

PIRATE MOLLIE WAGON

NOTE: I HAVE HER AS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL OF PROBTOWNS, ALMOST IN NULL CATEGORY. OPTIMAL MISLYNCH BAIT

WAGON:
Josh Lyman = null (0)
Lord Mhork = scum (-2)
Herobrine = probscum (-1)
I am innocent = town (2)
the_underachievers = probscum (-1)

Total = -1/5voters = -0.2

___________

LORD MHORK WAGON

NOTE: HE IS MY STRONGEST SCUMREAD

WAGON:
JacobSavage = probscum (-1)
chkflip = town (2)
zabriel = town (2)
om of the nom = town (2)
bitmap = town (2)
mattp = town (this is for almost every player in-game, so I'm not being biased, 2)
penguin_alien = town (2)

Total = 11/7players = 1.57

If your reads are at all similar to mine you'd notice two things:

1) The mollie wagon came up around the same time as the mhork wagon
2) The mhork wagon contains stronger townreads for nearly everyone in the game than the mollie wagon

Take that as what you may, but consider this: If one of mollie or mhork is the scum and the other is mislynch bait, which is which

this is a good post regardless of mattp's alignment

so if you are town how about you help me by giving me some space so I can do my thing

I can do this. I didn't like you ignoring my question. What do you think of Ma Jiffy accusing me of not voting who I called scum but ignoring you?

why are you spelling majiffy that way? that is weird. sorry I am a bit of an aspie when it comes to pattern matching.

after YOUR entry to the game, this comes across as REALLY hypocritical

I think mozi is town, herorobmist as town, I waffle with bonermatt, rev's hard reset looks genuine, om leaning townish but unsure, vifam town, chickflip as town. I kind of had bitmap as town but unsure. still lean town on him. penguin is looking better.

I have a similar set of reads, though vifam is a scum read.

You wanna kill Josh Lyman or uberninja with me?

vote: Josh Lyman

worst post this slot has made yet

please tell me this isn't mastin

Moz's post 565 makes me feel even worse about his slot.

Mollie, I just read 566 where you say moz's posts SEEMED town to you. How about some examples with specific posts? What did you think about Moz's 565 that I just referenced.

Reading Jacob's 583 my instinct is telling me he is playing too awful to be scum.

Note to self, meta Jacob

Jacob starting the Lord wagon comes off as a townie move (606)

Jacob, not sure what you wrote in 609, but don't do that crap again.

@Majiffy, re your question in 628 "everyone voting Mollie under the premise of her interactions with Mozamis; Why not just vote Mozamis?" I think while both may be scum, if only one is, it would likely be the one who called the other obvconftown. (possibly looking for town cred for staying off a mislynch)

@underachievers,

why Josh Lyman?

(nevermind, saw your reason. But while I have your attention, who is your #1 scum suspect?)

Possible connection between Lord and penguin in 674.

@moz, re 712. you say you are town. do you find it at all suspicious that while so many people suspected/voted you, that one player calls you obvconftown? No red flags for you???

moz 713/714 are bad

and the vote by moz on Josh Lyman in 717 wreaks of scum avoiding any confrontation.

*******************

New scum list (Jacob removed): Mollie, Moz, Om, Lord

i like this post

could just be someone popping in every once in a while to make a townie-looking post, and then disappearing for days at a time

but that's not what i'm feeling.

also, it's only been 2 days since the game started, so

FTR IAI has nearly half the game as null, only one fellow townread voting Mollie, has BOTH mollie AND mhork as scumreads and mhork has a much more developed wagon with stronger townreads of IAI BUT IAI is on Mollie, AAANNNNDDDDD IAI is asking a bunch of bullshit questions

HMMMM

I noticed this too!

"oh hey!!! look at this guy what he's doing! he's voting me and being hypocritical!"

fuuuuck that.

vote: Pirate mollie

matt, switch to this one. i promise it's better than tha mhork wagon

FTR IAI has nearly half the game as null, only one fellow townread voting Mollie, has BOTH mollie AND mhork as scumreads and mhork has a much more developed wagon with stronger townreads of IAI BUT IAI is on Mollie, AAANNNNDDDDD IAI is asking a bunch of bullshit questions

HMMMM

I noticed this too!

This is a town post

Completely genuine, shows she was thinking about you possibly being scum, not just her defending herself against you

I dig it

lol no

this is a "look at how hypocritical this guy WHO'S VOTING ME is, everyone!" post

are you fucking retarded

VOTE: Mhork

Boo.

shut the fuck up and take a

verbal

stance on mhork/mollie

none of this drive-by voting shit you've been doing

VOTE: Mhork

Boo.

I am strongly considering a IAI wagon

thoughts?

my thoughts are:

you're off your rocker

VOTE: I Am Innocent

what happened to your fucking mhork wagon, matt

now you're defusing it? what the fuck

IAI is probably town anyway imo

I am strongly considering a IAI wagon

thoughts?

Against it.

IDGAF if you're scum with Mhork

You're scum

so why are you choosing to push IAI instead of mhork

when you are apparently 100% sure both are scum
BUT, mhork has a huge wagon, and IAI's is nonexistent?

riddle me that fucker

Alright Nero Cain why do you have a scumread on me

because you have a scumread on him, duhhhh

What is the point of getting a wagon to L-2 and then getting off of it everything you do mimics a 2nd grader

this

IAI today. I wanna see Mhork post more. IAI has been doing similar things to Mhork, with added on shit. IAI is scum, I'm happy with his lynch, I have way more to work off with him, and I'm staying there today.

Mozamis is scum too for being "confused" on page fucking 33 or whatever but he'll give us helpful relational tells and we can just lynch him tomorrow

no. fuck this

Yep, I'm still confused as f***.

Yep, I'm still confused as f***.

noone cares

frankly, pushing a guy to L-2, then jumping off it, on to a completely new tangent (IAM), distinctly gives the impression that you're not too sure of your whereabouts either. So back off.

bingo

i.e. MOLLIE-WAGON, HOOOOO

Sorry if you feel they are useless. Every question I ask there is a reason for it. Do you think it is bad to ask players to take stances? I'm guessing not since you yourself has put out multiple lists of your read on every player. But we have some who refuse to do so. We got one (moz) who says, all the high post count players are town and lurkers are scum.

You got another (mollie) who says my wagon is too big to do any scumhunting. (BTW, your wagon is at 4 girl....L-7 ain't big) And the list goes on and on

.

erm...where did I say that? and when I said that I think 7 or 8 votes on me at the time

So now that the pressure is gone, who is scum?

I will answer your question when you answer mine

why are you dodging the question?

in this post exchange, mollie:

1. uses the "where did i say ___? prove it!!"
2. gets asked a question, and dodges the question
3. accuses the other guy of dodging a question

omg mollie ur such a good scum player, teach me

no but seriously. lynch it with fire.

"it" being mollie.

Mozamis is scum too for being "confused" on page fucking 33 or whatever but he'll give us helpful relational tells and we can just lynch him tomorrow

No, it means I'm confused. Town can be confused you know. Try and calm down, the hysterics don't really help.

don't like the "page 33 or whatever" from matt

if he's so un-confused, compared to mozamis, he should know exactly what page it fucking is
and since he got the page # right, that brings into question, why did he say "or whatever"?

losing that town read on matt fast. it's reverting to my boner-scum read

not just because of this, this is only a small part. a bigger part is the lack of faith in the mhork wagon.

my hypothesis is that, if scum, he was scared it was going to go through, mhork was going to flip town,a nd then he'd have to answer a shit ton of other questions.

and as town, i have no fucking explanation for it.

care to explain for YOURSELf, matt?

caught up to 812, i'm done

fuck you all

vote mollie

kill mollie

die, mollie

[UberNinja]

ftr i want mollie to die in case that wasnt clear

[UberNinja]

VOTE: UberNinja

fuck you

ftr i want UberNinja to stop posting in case that wasnt clear

fuck you

UberNinja is kind of a tool

fuck you

[UberNinja]

TY UN for scumming it up and removing chance of an IAI lynch

You're awesome

I know I'm awesome. You should see me when I get going

Oh wait, you have. Just not the good times

[UberNinja]

It just upsets me that UberNinja isn't mad no one is going to read his dumb wallposts.

Probably because we did, and regretted doing so afterwards.

but seriously though there is some gold in there even if you have to dig it out

Yeah he's lashing out a lot, he already said he was pissed off cuz his cat died earlier or something. So I'll let him slide

thanks I really needed that

I read 1.5 of them

IDGAF about them though

He's prob butthurt I am disregarding his reads

But thats cuz they suck mainly cuz I'm obvtown and anyone with a brain can see that :S

i

am

butthurt, you prick

and you're playing like you usually play, and guess what

i've seen you play this way as scum and town so how the fuck can you expect me to know which it is
especialyl when you have shitty as fuck reads on people like herobrine and bitmap

My dog died so I'm gonna make mean posts on my forum mafia game and call every1 retarded - UberNinja

fuck you

I killed my dog so I would have an excuse to make mean posts on my forum mafia game and call every1 retarded - UberNinja

LOL! fuuuuuck youuuuuu

okay i just read more of the page and there's like 10 more fuck you's to people

skipping ahead, to spare my rapt readers...

Om of the Nom has requested replacement. Beginning the search now.

Also - a player has requested via PM that Majiffy and Vifam be given a warning as their recent posting is (in the eyes of this player) bordering on personal attacks against UberNinja. If I receive another such PM, regardless of my own opinions, I will consider their posting to have broken my rule against such attacks. Please be mindful of your posting and its effect on other players.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what

seriously

you're not. he's just scum and trying to "seed out soft alliances" based on flattery

trust me i've seen him do it as scum before.

where did you see me do this uber??????

also I am pretty sure it is a vaj between my legs so maybe you might want to address me as a girl!!!!

VOTE: uber ninja

okay. get back in the kitchen bitch!

nah jk but

shall i really go post by post and destroy you? or do you want to respond to the post that i was responding to (i quoted them all, hello) and save me some time, and save yourself some face? in the long run i'll probably have to make a fucking "case" on you anyway

but the less work for me the better

also, omgus vote hiiiiiioooo

Not sold on IAI or mollie, Mhork is top priority. Ninja's reads are awful considering the fact that he's "better at this."

funny how everybody i have a scum read on is saying my reads are awful

loooooooooool

but only the insecure players vote me after i call them scum, teh rest just say they're awful and try to take potshots at me

its almost fucking formulaic at this point

Welp a wagon happened while I was absent. Shoot. I can't do anything in depth since I have no computer, but I do have a question for Matt:

Who's your next biggest scum read after me?

Probably IAmI... seeing as that's where his vote is.

>_>

I knew that. I wanted to hear what he had to say though, hence why I asked him.

uhhhhhhhhhhh

what the fuck was the point of asking if every single person who was paying attention in the game could have told you that?

also, what teh fuck kind of response is "hehe i knew that " when obviously somebody was going to call you out for that?

almost makes me want to vote you, mhork

but i dont want to give mattp the satisfaction of having me second guess myself

Probably IAmI... seeing as that's where his vote is.

Probably IamI?

Seeing as that's where my vote is......

why the fuck are these posts so similar?

either its on purpose or matt's playing stupid. i vote matt's playing stupid

because we all know he's not REALLY THAT DUMB

I actually didn't hate UN's walls, which is probably a bad sign since I usually don't care much for UN's play.

great, so what's your read on me?

I think an IAI wagon is actually perfect and judging by MULTIPLE things it has about a 90% chance of hitting scum

looool

i'm dying to hear of these multiple things

ready set go

Mhork about 60% right now

That's a little lower than I'd have put it, but I get your point.

VOTE: IaI

uhhhh i'm confused as hell by this interchange

do you guys have your own secret language or are you just scum together

Because, even though both are scummy, IaI carries enough of an increased chance of being scum to justify the extra time spent getting def-probscum over straight probscum.

In regards to the case itself, I find his town read on hero questionable and there's something intangible bothering me about his null list.

soooooo you have a scum read on herobrine?

or you're just saying "his _____ is questionable" to set yourself up a paper trail of having "legitimately suspected him" before he flips?

Oh jesus why do I join these big games?

Must...motivate... myself...

can someone tl;dr who I should vote for while I make some tea and toast?

yeah, vote mollie

Ninja is prob town, and you should all feel bad for mocking his dead pet. Here's my thoughts as I scan the player list, I'm yet to have a thorough read and I need motivation.

MY PET IS NOT DEAD YOU MOTHER FUCKERS

I DONT EVEN HAVE ANY PETS

Hmmm Uberninja seems hyper aggressive. Lots of swearing etc Gonna check her meta. Can sometimes be a scumtell.
Anyone else knwo anything about her meta?

have fun w/that

also call me a she again and i will chop your goddamn head off

i'm out of time for now



kill mollie

[UberNinja]

It's ok you're prob scum so go masturbate about your brilliant deceptive play

ahahaha fuck!


i lol'd

[UberNinja]

Well that spoiler got butchered. I think I technically voted for myself too.

UNVOTE: Lord Mhork

VOTE: Pirate Mollie

I was gonna let this ride and see if you caught it, but I guess you did, right away... you're no fun!

I'd like to see a similar analysis of everyone OFF your wagon though, if you please. Sometimes that's even MORE useful. i.e. to see who's purposefully ignoring your wagon because they want to stay off a wagon that might reach fruition, and want to avoid being "seen" that way, historically, to people who search wagoners, like you yourself just did.

But the twist is, I want to see what YOU have to say about them.

okay. get back in the kitchen bitch!

nah jk but

shall i really go post by post and destroy you? or do you want to respond to the post that i was responding to (i quoted them all, hello) and save me some time, and save yourself some face? in the long run i'll probably have to make a fucking "case" on you anyway

would it be the same shitty fucked up crap that originally fosed me in the first place? nah.

but let's go ahead and establish that you lied about my gameplay, pretend to have no idea who I am by calling me a he, and when called on it you bluster around like a six year old with his hand caught in the cookie jar and then end it with a mumbled threat that you are going to get me in the end while spraying cookie crumbs all over the place? okay!

limp performance to say the least

You sound just a little bit like you're trying hard not to be worried about me voting for you and threatening to campaign for your lynch.

I like my vote where it is. More pirate mollie votes, everyone.

but the less work for me the better

also, omgus vote hiiiiiioooo

^ this is so typical of scum,

that

is formulaic

Mhm, whatever you say dear.

funny how everybody i have a scum read on is saying my reads are awful

cos they are really awful

Mhm, whatever you say dear.

When we start seeing some pretty scum flips we'll find out soon enough.

loooooooooool

but only the insecure players vote me after i call them scum, teh rest just say they're awful and try to take potshots at me

its almost fucking formulaic at this point

I don't think voting you is a sign of insecurity insomuch as it is just exercising good judgment. but hai keep assigning motivations to people that they don't have for some reason people seem to think this is a town tell of yours needless to say I am unimpressed.

You assume I'm trying to impress you.

You're wrong.

kill mollie

<3

Wow so Vifam is a terrible person, that's cool.

UNVOTE: Mhork
VOTE: I Am Innocent

Meta backs up the scum read. Look for yourself, ladies.

I don't remember you making a single original statement all game.

You're just copying other people and hoping nobody notices your lack of involvement.

theunderachivers - lol, I thought I was talking N/longer name for a moment. when I can get a town read on her she is a player I like to work with. seemed willing to work with me but unwilling to move his vote. I dunno. seems willing to think outside the box. unsure.

Majiffy - I saw something earlier that made me think he was scummy. you would have to know him in order to get it. and it might not even be legit. I have a tendency to get super duper paranoid about him in general but I learned to just ride it out. if he is town he will find scum if he is scum he will wind up bussing his teammates at some point. win/win either way to leave him in the game longer.

Lord Mhork - unsure, could go either way. I liked his wot. and his observations of hero cos that is where my thoughts have been too. only thing I didn't like was his assumption that 1 of us has got to be scum. where do you people come up with these retarded theories, lol.

ArcAngel9 - liking her for town. she is posting her reads with reasons that I understand. she is following the thread and is having thoughts that match my own which I find to be a town tell since -----> town moves in herds

ActionDan - I am always slightly suspicious of people who do not know me who immediately put me in their town category. I have a different playstyle and and a different approach to the game. unsure leaning scummy at this point.

zabriel - unsure. for some reason I can't quite get a feel for him. when I am done dancing I want to dance with him in order to wrestle a better read although I have no idea how I would even begin.

I Am Innocent - I will be happy to answer her question when she answers mine. didn't like her disappearance after that exchange, she seemed to drop the convo like a hot potato as if she knew what she was asking was extraneous.

Bitmap - I had a town read but now I can't remember why.

Aj the Epic - he made a clever observation earlier which caught me off guard cos it was so.....un aj-like. I have 1 completed game with him when he was scum in which his main tactic was to pick a tard fight and bore everyone with these nonsensical wots that bored the crap out of me and which I eventually stopped reading. then I wound up in lylo and I could not remember a thing about him. I even forgot about the papers that were apparently pivotal to the game and why they were important, lol. mislynched and lost the game, one of my most embarrassing losses evah. it is like I had a weird mental block or something. unsure.

Herobrine - I am liking this slot for town I think. he seems to be suffering from the I-have-seen-mollie's-scumgame-therefore-mollie-must-be-scum-in-this-one syndrome. *yawn* like I have never seen

that

a million times before. I don't think he would push for my lynch this hard if he were scum.

borkjerfkin - thinking town. I have 1 completed game with borky when he was scum and I had him down with his first post. I was bullied out of pursuing my scum read and he was the only one with a penis who was even remotely nice to me in that game so I wasn't really motivated into pushing it. I wound up subbing out.

mozamis - town for reasons I have already stated.

TheReverend - his hard reset looked genuine and I had him down as town for that. but I guess when I think about it, it could come from town or scum but I am leaning town at this point.

penguin_alien - she is a sneaky one but earlier outrage looked genuinely town. I have her as town.

MattP - type of player that I like and feel the most comfortable with. his steering is probably alignment neutral and I don't mind being used as lynchbait by him, I am trusting he knows what he is doing and will pull it off of me....eventually. if he leaves me to fry then I will be thoroughly convinced that he is scum from the dead QT.

JacobSavage - I have no fucking clue. unsure.

UberNinja - super duper scummy here! and people think this is his town game? lol. I don't know I have never seen it, I have never played with him before. I know him through other venues. but omg, his reasoning in his shit wots was terrible.

PeregrineV - liking his posts. he has made some good observations but I am unimpressed with his fade. leaning town though.

chkflip - he has said a couple of things that make me think he is town. I am sticking with that read until I have reason to get paranoid about him.

Vifam - I had him as town, but didn't like him trying to bury the thread a few pages back with his shit posts. he is not scumhunting like he was earlier so it makes me wonder if it was just a pretense. unsure.

and those are my reads so far.

anyways I am finally dead in the tr game thank fucking god so I should be less cranky and somewhat more productive.

This will be useful.

I like how AD has a townread on mhork and knows I could have EASILY had mhork hammered without so much as a glare my way if I wanted but I had it dismantled for no apparent scum reasoning at the last second

Really adorable his reads are

I am not sure why you're trying to guilt trip me for the last few pages when the only people who think you are scummy are me, UN, and Nero/Mastin (and they are not long for this world anyway).

I'm not stupid Matt. I feel like you're trying to shake me off. You have been focused on my read on you exclusively even though I share reservations about 2/3 of your own scum-reads (IAI and Nero/Mastin). What's the point of trying to attack me?

You know well enough that you have established a decent town read by most everyone which gives you an advantage as scum. While true you could have stayed on Mhork, it's not unreasonable to switch when the wagon grew hot to the next target. (since that's the pattern with going from Bit--->Mozamis---->Mhork----->IAI) I'm sure you can understand that passivity harms scum.

This is a good, good post. Especially the italicized part.

VOTE: underachivers

As I said earlier, I don't see anything scummy about going for Josh earlier, as ill advised as I believe that to be, but I see no feasible way for that to have somehow bridged into post #1035 where so many people are scum reads without a whole lot of reference or interaction with many of them. There's no attempt to reconcile the large number of scum reads either.

I don't think Matt is scum -- the assertion that he's scummy for jerking town around by the dick in order to waste the bankable deadline is a huge huge stretch to me.

I'm pretty sure he's not jerking us around to waste a deadline.

Do you have anything else to say on anyone else in the game? I haven't noticed your presence much, which is quite inconsistent to the last time we played. Also I noticed you tried to buddy up to me in one of your earlier posts, though I don't recall saying anything back.

What's up with that? Trying to get on my good side?

MattP, why do you think anyone should be persuaded by your vote on I Am Innocent without an explanation? Except apparently JacobSavage who is sheeping for no apparent reason. The end of page 37 was really scummy.

UNVOTE: Lord Mhork
VOTE: JacobSavage

I don't love Lord Mhork feeling the need to get affirmation on his belief that wagon jumping is sketchy, but his rationale tracks, so.

The speed at which the Lord Mhork wagon was both created and dismantled, and largely without much fanfare for either case, baffles the fuck out of me.

I'm struggling to find time for a good read through at the moment, so please forgive me if I drift along until after we have some flip info. Happy with AJ or chkflip today I guess, unless someone presents something really compelling.

Please, talk more about chkflip.

So you don't think I'm scummy for going for Josh but....I'm still scum? The hell? Its a 21 player game and there are gonna be like 5-6 scum. I don't see why my suspecting multiple suspects is "bad". Casting a wider net is more likely to hit scum. Unless you are scum and you know that I'm off there's no reason to attack me for suspecting others. So its like your voting me for the sake of voting? Was my town read on you wrong?

-N

The way this post is worded reminds me of how I've seen scum act before.

They bargain with their own town reads and say "okay I guess my town read on you was wrong" when people say things they don't like. And the reason this is significant is because scum attach more inherent value to appearing town, than townies do. So they use it as a bartering chip, and feel like it will be a magic bullet. But it's not, because townies aren't trying to look town. They're trying to find scum.

TheUnderachivers goes

way

up on the scumdar.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.

UNVOTE: I Am Innocent
VOTE: theunderachivers

My gut says "yes, yes, oh god, I'm cumming", but my brain says "you idiot, they're probably scum together and this is a bus"

chikflip what about that post bothered you?

Every part of 1067 & 68 sucked. All of it. Deflection, fluff, and idiocy (which I expect to an extent, but really? nine scum candidates?).

You sound like Yosarian here. Inflating things to a level more melodramatic than they are, pandering to a wide base, and being relatively safe in your accusations, i.e. "everyone would think that's crazy, so it's safe to say it's crazy." And that's not feeling right.

I'll make a fucking "case" if I have time tonight. Most everyone thinks IAI is at least SCUMMY so I dont fucking understand why I have to make one

what is your patented percent chance on Nero/Mastin as scum?

I'll decide that after IAI flips, but non-relationally (so if IAI is town) then 60%. If IAI is scum then 95%

I shall do some really hard math.

.9x.95 = 9/10 x 19/20 = 171/200 = 0.855

I feel like that math is getting out of hand. I just wanted to know how confident he was in his read.

Also, I've been neglecting to sign some of my posts because fuck you that's why. Everything written recently is by me, I think.

~Rob

There are townie "I don't give a fuck" assertions, and then there are scummy "I don't give a fuck" assertions.
Clearly the latter here.

I like how EVERY big successful lynch push so far has been on townreads of mine now

Like town really just fucking sucked today

If I'm even half correct, then you have no idea how right you are.

I'm not as good as you seem to think I am, Rev. Read my other completed town games. That game was an anomaly, not the norm.

Yeah I don't even know what to say about this post.

UN’s fake aggression meta play is stupid and scummy. Though I did like his attack of Matt.

It's a fun tool that helps me get through boring re-reads. Pretending I'm angry at everyone for making me waste my time. You should try it.

And it has a side effect of making people have genuine reads on me, which in turn makes it easier to develop good reads on them.

OH WAIT FUCK I BASICALLY JUST SCUM CLAIMED IN THREAD. ALERT THE UN.

You act as if I didn't already know you were scum.

...And to give you a better idea of just

how

not in the game I am...

I fully realize we're the lead wagon. I fully realize that we're likely going to be lynched, 'specially since I haven't been posting. (Oh, and btw, I'd like to give a massive

HoS

to anyone asking where I was over the weekened that has played with me; they'd KNOW that I don't post then.)

...But I'm so apathetic for this game that I honestly DGAF about it.
I'd barely even consider it to be a lynch. I'd barely even consider it to have been me in the game, since, well, I'm not. It'd be like I replaced in during the night only to be nightkilled. That's exactly how much devotion I'm feeling for the game at the moment.

...Yes, that's a horribad attitude, so yes, I'll do what I can to spark my interest, but quite frankly, right now, I aint.

aaaand, welcome to the game, mastin?


PV's vote on me is interesting. If it's him just testing the waters then great, and here's your reaction; if it's because he thinks I should be lynched, then that's just embarrassing.

Picking up prod. Expect a catchup post in the next 24 hrs...most likely in the next 2, unless my wife wears me out after we get the kids to bed.

I keep forgetting people have lives and families.

@Mod: Sorry, I gotta ask to replace out. Uni, etc.

Let's hope your replacement doesn't make me want to reverse my read on your slot, because that would be quite frustrating.

Thanks for replacing out though. If you don't have time it's always better to let someone else pick up the slack.

Holy cow, moz is defending me now...

This kind of statement never feels right... but...

Also, 4 votes were thrown at me. All four coincidentally came from Lord's wagon, the shadiest being Jacob's. If Lord was really scum, I would think that some scum would be on the counterwagon (Mollies) and would have sheeped Matt. But none did. I believe Lord to be town because of this. It also makes me wary of Mollie.

It needs to be Mollie or Jacob today.

... but this part of the post I totally agree with.

If people dont vote IAI after that post they're retarded

I was right

You can all suck my dick

That is all.

You're either scum or stupid this game.

That is all.

I don't give a flying fuck if you try to policy lynch me tomorrow, Matt. We have less than two weeks left in the bankable deadline. We've gotten all we can from this day, in my opinion. There is a clear consensus that both IAI and achivers are likely scum. So let's lynch the one with a bigger wagon today and get the other one tomorrow. Maybe we can actually have some time to discuss in future days instead of having to push through quicklynches in 4 days every time.

~Rob

lol...got pissed, forgot to switch accounts

lol...got derp, lined up lynches

No. #suckadick

Okay, this post made me lol.

UNVOTE: Underachivers
VOTE: I Am Innocent

The fact that this wagon isn't growing means some of the louder mouths on the other wagon are scum.

UNVOTE: Underachivers
VOTE: I Am Innocent

The fact that this wagon isn't growing means some of the louder mouths on the other wagon are scum.

? What "other wagon"? You mean the Savage wagon? The one that UA just jumped on as it started growing? The same one IAI is on?

Stop fucking dismantling the strongest wagon and get the fuck back on UA.
VOTE: UnderAchievers

#popcorn

More people need to ignore the current I_Am_Innocent and TheUnderachivers wagons and vote for pirate mollie.


p-edit: Anyone with me and MattP on the same list needs their head checked.

[UberNinja]

SK, duh

[UberNinja]

More people need to ignore the current I_Am_Innocent and TheUnderachivers wagons and vote for pirate mollie.

Swtich Mollie with JS and this post is gold. JS is scum and everyone avoiding JS is suspect.

Yep this is how mafia works.


In other news I like how UN's wall has underacheeevers (the lead wagon) "going way up on his scumdar" but totally wants everyone to ignore it in favor of mollie.

it makes sense if you pay attention to how scummy mollie is on a wholistic level compared to underacheeeevers one or two dodgy posts in that exchange with vifam

really, it does

good job trying to casually push blame on me though.

[UberNinja]

OFFICIAL HYDRA READS LIST ACTIVATE

Strong Town (we both agree they're town):

Majiffy
Rev
UN
Vifam (i'm confused here because mist said in an earlier post from the hydra that she was going to convince me vifam could be scummy, but she posted "townie" in her reads in the QT...so)

Weak Town (one person thinks town, the other null):

chkflip
Om of the Nom/ArcAngel
Bitmap's slot (i think he was replaced, i can't remember by who)
Matt (FUCK YOU MIST HES SO TOWN)

Null/Divided (both people think null OR one person thinks town, other thinks scum):

Action Dan
Jacob

Weak Scum (one person thinks scum, the other null):

mozamis (we both agree here, but both with a weak read)

Strong Scum (we both agree they're scum - LYNCH WITH SEVERE PREJUDICE):

BadSpellingHydra (aka Theunderarchivers)
Mollie

WAITING ON MIST TO RE-READ/ISO TO RELEASE THE OFFICIAL HYDRA READ:

Lord Mhork
IAI
AJ
bork
penguin
PV

Can explain any of these if any of you want...

Also, specifically @Moz - You just said we should be compromising on a lynch (agreeing with my points re:matt) and then unvoted. Like....wtf? That makes very little sense. If you agree with me that we urgently need to end the day, then you wouldn't be motivated to unvote entirely.

~Rob if it wasn't entirely obvious

FUCK YOU MATT I'M TOWNIER THAN YOU

JIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Spoiler:

unfortunately, this list is shit because hero is scum

[UberNinja]

Actually wait, that list is not half bad.

I would move chkflip down and underachivers up so that they're where mozamis is though, and move mozamis up a level.

[UberNinja]

Vifam (i'm confused here because mist said in an earlier post from the hydra that she was going to convince me vifam could be scummy, but she posted "townie" in her reads in the QT...so)

This is a scum hydra signature move. Trust the guy who's been in a number of scum hydras, and seen plenty more in operation.

I mean, yeah, the whole reads list is pretty abysmal and looks entirely faked, but this? This is what stands out like a sore thumb the most.

If anything this reads as the most genuine part of the bunch

Loath as I am to admit it, my scum read on Herobrine isn't nearly as strong as I claim it is.

[UberNinja]

ArcAngel is so cute

I agree

[UberNinja]

ArcAngel is incredibly town now.

Go read Om of the Nom's posts and tell me if your read changes.

[UberNinja]

Good then stop wasting time and vote IAI

vifam may be scum btw just wanted to say he would be a good investigation because he'll coast if he's scum

I went from your biggest townread to probable scum why

Doesn't matter, I want you investigated to save me a migraine, c'est la vie

I agree Vifam is hard to read, but to me this feels like you're trying to direct investigational roles so that they dont target YOU

with the subtle implication that "he will be a good target anyway, so you might as well. no big deal"

i.e. scummy as fuck

[UberNinja]

Yo, UN, you scum?

You're dancing around our lynch, calling us scummy but not actually firmly saying we're scum.

Which, if my memory isn't betraying me (it is overly fond of stabbing me in the back ), was something you were rather fond of doing as scum in 1377.

Nope. And I'm not dancing around your lynch; I'm pushing a better one.

Uhhhhh, 1377? you mean 1379?
Don't ask me why Matt changed it.

[UberNinja]

Quick skim of UN's iso makes him-as-scum more likely. I mean, despite being a consistent waller (seriously, only 29 posts and his iso is down-right Mastin length. Not mastin2 length. As in, Mastin the chronic wallposter length ), there doesn't seem to be a lot in there scream town.

I never scream town. I scream DEATH. ;D

Also feel free to have a cop inspect me tonight. I know I'm town and everyone worth their salt also has me as town. Which has me worried because there are a few people worth their salt that DO NOT have me as town. And guess what, they're in my scum- or scummy- reads.

Basically...he's saying townie stuff, but it feels hollow and empty. As if the words didn't actually mean anything. Definitely could be scum.

YMMV. Catchup posts of mine tend to be that way. But they're not for you allz benefit, they're for mine so I can get a handle on the game.

Not as definite as I'd prefer, but probably the strongest of those I've done an iso for.

I actually read you and Nero very differently this game. Those posts which I can tell are yours, seem very town.

Some of Nero's posts seem town as well, but the argument with Vifam just didn't feel so great.

[UberNinja]

After thinking not-so long and hard about it, I am ultimately against a Nero/mastin lynch today. I think that though they have said some scummy things, there are much better people to lynch, like mollie.

And when I was scum last time against mastin, I was shitting bricks because he had things all nailed down, and I had to pull mountains of shit out of my ass and shove it down people's throats in order to get them to lynch him instead of me.

I want him around, because he sees right through all that shit. And if what he's saying about Nero is true (I personally do not have much experience, but mastin holds him in pretty high regard), then they are definitely worth keeping around, even on the off-chance they're town.

Not to mention, I don't get an entirely good feeling from UA wagon. I feel there are only 3 people with a reason to be there, AJ, Vifam, and to an extent Majiffy. Everyone else is just along for the ride, and it doesn't "feel" like a good wagon should feel, to me.

- Aj the Epic ("VOTE: TheUnderachivers I've got me a scum read. And I definitely am picking up town-vifam reads as well." this vote feels good)
- Vifam (his vote's at least consistent with what he's been saying so far)
- Herobrine (it's herobrine, obviously this is a suspect vote)
- borkjerfkin (absolutely no reasons for his vote in post 1062. he votes UA and then talks about something else for the rest of his post)
- zabriel (suspect vote: "If there's a Vig or something of the like around, we might just be better off hitting Achivers and letting IaI get bumped off tonight possibly. vote: UA" <-- what the fuck is that shit)
- Majiffy ("Stop fucking dismantling the strongest wagon and get the fuck back on UA." feels good, I have no problem with his vote here, even though I think it is possible misplaced, there's nothing wrong with the vote itself)
- chkflip (said he was going to vote with MattP, but abandoned the IAI wagon as soon as it seemed the UA wagon had more steam. Also, his position on wagons, 2nd on Mhork, 6th on UA, doesn't feel good to me either. I trust 1st, 3rd, sometimes 4th, L-1, and hammer votes on a wagon the most. That's a lot of spots, and he still hasn't hit them)

And I don't like the situation of a few people off the wagon either for that matter:
- MattP (pushed like hell for a Lord Mhork wagon, pushed like hell for an IAI wagon... then sat on it while the UA wagon built. now, where is he?)
- Bitmap and TheRev are on 1-person wagons which are going nowhere. That's never the town thing to be doing. Wagon, motherfuckers.

I suppose the person(s) I need to read up on the most are JacobSavage and Lord Mhork. Mhork's iffy comment in 282 notwithstanding, nothing else has really jumped out at me, either positively or negatively. And Jacob is a bit of a blind spot. So is Peregrine for that matter.

And mollie still needs to die.

[UberNinja]

1) Go read his ISO - it's fairly obvious and you should be able to see it by yourself

then you should be able to explain it as well as you did mine!

Tell me why you are not scum.

[UberNinja]

cuz u so

scummy

, dude

[UberNinja]

No but seriously though. Since I know you're on, let's have a chat. A heart-to-heart if you will. Let's pretend each other are masons, let's scumhunt together.

I will purposely try not to recall the reasons I thought you were scum (they have gotten hazy) so that I can more effectively run this exercise. Please do the same for me. (...not that your reason for voting me is anything more than OMGUS mixed with "well, it doesn't seem like the Uber I have heard about", anyway )

Who do you think are scum? Why?

For me it's:

1. MattP. I don't like Matt's early interactions, wagon placement, hopping from point to point without a sense of grounding (the best way to play as scum, because you never have to attach to anything, and therefore can never be held to your word), and generally just a sense of complacency because he knows he's good ass cum.

2. Probably chkflip. He's provided precious little original content, though seems to have an attitude of arrogance that is not proportionate to either his reputation (I've never heard of him as being good, and have only seen him in passing, in discussion forums), and has basically said he's just sheeping Matt so can't be responsible for what he does (even though he was on the Mhork wagon before Matt, and hasn't yet switched to the UA one, after Matt has pushed that).

3. Somebody who's mostly lurking. It'd be far too easy to lose yourself in the background of a game like this, with multiple strong personalities, and also by principle it's easier to do that in a large game because more people are making more posts, etc.

Your thoughts?

[UberNinja]

This offer is open to anybody, including MattP and chkflip, whom I will discuss other scum reads with.

Get me while I'm hot (which is always).

[UberNinja]

I

AM

A CHAMPION DAMMIT

[UberNinja]

I WAS LOOKING AT VOTE COUNTS DAMMIT

[UberNinja]

VOTE: I Am Innocent

Meta backs up the scum read. Look for yourself, ladies.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.

UNVOTE: I Am Innocent
VOTE: theunderachivers

UNVOTE: Underachivers
VOTE: I Am Innocent

The fact that this wagon isn't growing means some of the louder mouths on the other wagon are scum.

UNVOTE: I Am Innocent
VOTE: TheUnderachivers

SOLD! to the tard in the tin-foil hat.

p.s. I've voted UA and IAI several times, so you should work on your straw-manning.

AH HA

YOU DONT GIVE A FUCK WHO'S LYNCHED AS LONG AS SOMEBODY IS

UNVOTE; VOTE: CHKFLIP

MOLLIE GOD DAMN IT YOU'D BETTER FOLLOW ME

YOU'D ALL BETTER FOLLOW ME

[UberNinja]

I don't like Maiffy's post 1498 very much. It feels like scum who desperately wants to comment on everything possible so that people won't realize he's not commenting on the thing which is the most important; i.e. that Underachivers was town.

Vifam is also in this boat, but his posts don't sell the feeling as strongly as Majiffy's one does.

I get general town vibes from AJ the Epic's post 1499.

Also:

VOTE: I Am Innocent

Meta backs up the scum read. Look for yourself, ladies.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.

UNVOTE: I Am Innocent
VOTE: theunderachivers

UNVOTE: Underachivers
VOTE: I Am Innocent

The fact that this wagon isn't growing means some of the louder mouths on the other wagon are scum.

UNVOTE: I Am Innocent
VOTE: TheUnderachivers

SOLD! to the tard in the tin-foil hat.

p.s. I've voted UA and IAI several times, so you should work on your straw-manning.

AH HA

YOU DONT GIVE A FUCK WHO'S LYNCHED AS LONG AS SOMEBODY IS

UNVOTE; VOTE: CHKFLIP

MOLLIE GOD DAMN IT YOU'D BETTER FOLLOW ME

YOU'D ALL BETTER FOLLOW ME

I have a feeling chkflip was killed in order to make me look bad, following this post.

Who is it that wants me lynched the most? I would look for them if I'm looking for scum. pirate mollie immediately comes to mind.

Also pirate mollie completely ignored this post from me:

No but seriously though. Since I know you're on, let's have a chat. A heart-to-heart if you will. Let's pretend each other are masons, let's scumhunt together.

I will purposely try not to recall the reasons I thought you were scum (they have gotten hazy) so that I can more effectively run this exercise. Please do the same for me. (...not that your reason for voting me is anything more than OMGUS mixed with "well, it doesn't seem like the Uber I have heard about", anyway )

Who do you think are scum? Why?

For me it's:

1. MattP. I don't like Matt's early interactions, wagon placement, hopping from point to point without a sense of grounding (the best way to play as scum, because you never have to attach to anything, and therefore can never be held to your word), and generally just a sense of complacency because he knows he's good ass cum.

2. Probably chkflip. He's provided precious little original content, though seems to have an attitude of arrogance that is not proportionate to either his reputation (I've never heard of him as being good, and have only seen him in passing, in discussion forums), and has basically said he's just sheeping Matt so can't be responsible for what he does (even though he was on the Mhork wagon before Matt, and hasn't yet switched to the UA one, after Matt has pushed that).

3. Somebody who's mostly lurking. It'd be far too easy to lose yourself in the background of a game like this, with multiple strong personalities, and also by principle it's easier to do that in a large game because more people are making more posts, etc.

Your thoughts?

... which was a good faith effort to team up and be useful regardless of what our reads were on each other, just in the small likelihood that she was town, and we were being stupid and bickering over nothing.

She completely ignored it, even when she went back and searched through my posts to find my reads, and compared a post that was right next to it, here:

@ AP - which reads of UN's do you agree with? cos I am comparing his #1301 to your #1457 and I don't see a lot of similarities.

Vote: pirate mollie

[UberNinja]

VOTE: JacobSavage

Still hasn't provided any content with documented reasons beyond sheeping and conveniently doesn't have chkflip on his last reads post at all.

The word "conveniently" applied with a "gimme" reason for voting someone, looks pretty bad here.

Yeah, JS looks scummy, but then he always does. Him being a moron all the time, generally doesn't help either.
This looks like a careless and lazy scum tactic to get a shabby player lynched just for being a shabby player.

penguin_alien comes from faaar behind to rest near the top of my scum reads...

FoS

Also this goes with the whole "scum doesn't know what to say at the beginning of a day, so they just try to pick out something rather random and run with it" tell that I use to varying levels of success with varying levels of frequency.

[UberNinja]

Also this part of mollie's post is terrible because look:

these were ua's scum reads at the end of the day:

Majiffy
I Am Innocent
Aj the Epic
MattP
JacobSavage
UberNinja
Vifam

he also wanted to throw in hero which at that point I sort of agreed with.

- MattP and I Am Innocent are both on the list

together

, which is fucking stupid.
- I am on the list

at all

, which is fucking stupid.
- Two people that were cornerstones of the Underachivers lynch, Majiffy and Vifam, are on there, which is fucking OMGUS.
- And mollie is also privy enough to point out that Underachivers wanted to throw Hero in there.

So, she's paying so close of attention to Underachivers' reads (which do not involve her) that she knows Hero was near being added to the list, but she completely skims over the fact that the list is nigh impossible, and damn near straight up stupid, AND she ignored MY post 1305 which was directed right at her...

It just doesn't feel like someone who's trying to get to the bottom of things.

It feels like someone who's pushing an agenda that's full of holes, and they're hoping nobody notices.

mollie needs to be lynched

yesterday

.

[UberNinja]

I'm not sure what AP is thinking linking that game. I lurked like fuck and got two prods in HPATPL. He was scum and spent a good chunk of that game defending me, which he knows damn well influenced my thinking and play. Do you mind explaining that one a little better?

VOTE: AP

You do have a point.

I have wondered why AP had a whole post written up before daybreak... how could he have

known

that he wouldn't be the mafia kill?

Also, he had chkflip as "die suck die scum mother fucker" but he flipped town, and AP was all just "

chkflip is scum

well whoopsies I guess that's wrong lol" and goes ahead and posts the reads list like nothing changes based on that.

LOTS changes based on that. For one, I should look a lot worse to him, but he still goes and lists me in the "super town" category like nothing was different. And he tries to butter me up and say our reads are pretty similar, but as mollie pointed out (and believe me, I hate using this, even though it might just be distancing on mollie's part) our reads aren't as close as he would have had everyone believe.

Sup AP. You scum bro?

[UberNinja]

@ AP - which reads of UN's do you agree with? cos I am comparing his #1301 to your #1457 and I don't see a lot of similarities.

Im not really 100% sync'd up with anyone (except possibly Nero oO). I like his reasonings though and I like that he was pressuring unpopular targets (mattp and chkflip). I feel that a lot of people were just doing whatever the fuck was popular with a little variations and he was doing his own thing. I dunno, his wallposts were just resonating with me.

This

does

feel better though, admittedly.

[UberNinja]

Jacob comes up a lot but whenever he does I can't remember a single thing he's posted or said in this game

A bloody good reason to vote for him I'd say.

This JacobSavage wagon is smelling an awful lot like a shitty wagon.

Why? He's done absolutely no scum hunting.

This is possibly the biggest cop out I have seen all game.

Have you ever played with JS before?

[UberNinja]

I'm ambivalent on Vifam. He's entertaining for now but I'd really rather lynch mollie.

AP please go read mollie's posts and tell me they are not scummy as fuck. Thx.

[UberNinja]

Oh, and after reading a JacobSavage ISO I am fine with him being lynched as well, regardless of what I said earlier about him being an easy wagon because he's stupid. That shit is heinous. Die suck die.

[UberNinja]

Spoiler: Uberninja (and Mollie I guess), lets talk

Uber, I want you on my team. And by that I mean, Im pretty sure we are both town, but I really dont think Mollie is a good lynch.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST AM I GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER DAY ROUND FULL OF UBER GOOBER'S RAGING HARD ON FOR ME GODDAMN

I went to bed and you have not been around since, I would rather talk to you in real time you dummy did you ever stop to think of that? of course not it would require 2 extra brain cells that you apparently do not have.

I agree with vifam in that chickflip was probably nked cos scum thought he was a special is this your first game of mafia uber goober I doubt it was to "set you up". holy cow.

I think vifam is town and I have matt as unsure leaning town but the rest of ua's reads I agree with which is why I had him as town and thought the bw on him was scummy and dumb.

I still have you as leaning scummy although you have up a teeny bit into my unsure pile. maybe.

^ This is a town post. The frustration reads really genuine. Mollie being upset about Rob posting her secrets ALSO looked super genuine. She doesn't care about how her posts are perceived, she is just posting how she feels.

You two should just talk it out in real time, hold hands, and help me lynch the shit out of someone.

Can I interest either of you in a mattp/vifam/Zabriel wagon at all? Does either of you have a compelling reason to be townreading Zab that you'd like to share?

Tried that in post 1305. Failed miserably because mollie has absolutely no interest in being reasonable or answering questions.

[UberNinja]

mollie. 1305. go.

[UberNinja]

read. watched. listened. bobbed.

you sir are a gentleman and a scholar

[UberNinja]

@Uber- you still scum or did you get that fixed?

Well I'm trying to distance myself from my scumbuddies as much as possible, if that's what you're getting at...

I am not trying to be difficult, but when you asked, I had already given a list of my reads and the reasons. Today with the new info, everything has shifted a bit, some are weaker some are stronger and some have completely changed.

Fair enough. I just don't see town-mollie though. Tell me why I am reading you as scum, and explain why that's wrong, and I will feel a lot better about your slot.

my scum pile consists of majiffy and arcangel at the mo. I don't buy arc's dingbat routine at all and I am sus of majiffy for a couple of reasons most I have already indicated.

I highly doubt scum hammers that visibly and then pretends to derp about it. I have relatively little experience with ArcAngel it seems, but I don't really see it. Then again, I

have

been sufficiently duped by derpscum derp-a-lerping their way through a game, only to have me fuck things up and vote the wrong way in LyLo because I thought there was no possible way scum could/would be that stupid.

But today is hardly the final day, and I'm not at all keen on a derp-lynch at the moment, especially when it could just as well be on town and, according to my read on ArcAngel at least, WOULD be on town. If she stays alive late into game and isn't taken out by a vig or a lynch, then I will worry about her. But there are far more pressing matters at the moment. One of them being... you.

I swear, it's so weird talking to you like you're not scum. This is unnatural.
But I think it might be helping me get more solid reads. Net benefit, ahoy!

I am throwing penguin loosely in there too cos of her tunneling on jacob; very reminisce of the game I played with her where she was scum. she tunnels on a low participant and then fades. conversely I am a little sus of jacob too until he puts something forth that is more contributive. aj is in that pile of mollie no like and IaI is still hanging strong.

penguin hasn't really ticked my meter one way or the other lately. I need to read more up on her. But her tunneling on Jacob did strike me as a little odd. I probably didn't think too much of her specifically, because she's not the player that stood out to me the most, and I tend to focus on one thing to the exclusion of all others. It's my blessing, it's my curse.

I get why people are worried about matt and vifam, in fact I doubt there are fewer people on here who can empathise with the rigor of trying to get a really strong player lynched. at a recent game on my homesite I tried for 4 days to get this player lynched and nearly got there but there was a dumb town cabal of 4 players who could not/would not see her as scum (I had her pegged in 2 posts). finally after I wound up dead nacho took her out on n6 cos I made him promise when he first joined the site if I wound up and I say this player is scum you better lynch her. he couldn't get her lynched so he vig-killed her and won the game for town.

cool story bro

So what are your reads of Matt and Vifam?

I have AP as very town and probably whom I am going to be trying to work with and I guess that means you too. when you went into crazy conspiracy land, you moved up into my unsure cos I see that type of paranoid thinking (talking about the nk here) as coming more from town rather than scum.

I always go into crazy conspiracy land. It's the only way games get won.

AP is a fine choice to collaborate with, if he's town. I have some doubts about that, though.

your turn. where do you stand with your reads today?

I dunno about vifam. there have been a few times that he has said exactly what I was thinking and I tend to see that as town although I know there are crossovers like that between scum and town. I already tried to do a reach out to him and he was all like "yo" so he lost some town points for that but I just don't know him as a player at all - his refusal to interact with me makes it hard to get a read but so far I have had him as town.

Oh, here's your Vifamread. I agree, on all points. But the "yo" reaction didn't seem out of character to me though. In this case, "yo" sounds like it would mean "what's crackin' bitch" or "sum'n u need, girl?" and the onus of follow-up would then transition to you.

AP is town, seems very likely he had no idea chkflip was dying. Bitmap was town too.

He could have faked it, and crossed it out, and made it look like he had no time to readjust his reads and just posted it as is... idk, I think that'd be the perfect scum ploy. Which brings up again: how did he know he'd be alive the next day to post that? Why bother writing it beforehand, if some of it would inevitably be proven wrong later?

@AP -- do you really think Vifam and Matt are scum together? That seems horribly impossible.

-nods-

Uber's done a total 180 content-wise since yesterday. He can go back to null for now until I reread him.

Nice cop-out. Have you re-read me yet?

Zab's probably town for 1509 alone; I certainly don't see a compelling case here.

I agree that post feels townie, but also, ITG zabriel's play does not match up with my town meta of him.

Mollie is leaning town but in the past I've either 1) found her super towntelling early on or 2) been scum myself so I'm just relying on the appearance of attempting to peel away the game layers here. She's actually making more sense than usual to me.

What is the point of the list? Which is in effect in this game?

bork is town let's talk about that

I no longer care about this game, GJ scum the town is a mess

well this is just lovely...

I no longer care about this game, GJ scum the town is a mess

Dude it's d2, why you throwing in the towel already? Twon is not in a mess. This is a really scummy post imo.

This post feels town as fuck. Rev moves up the town list even more.

B/C noone is listening to me, and I'm right, and I'm watching stupid ass lynches get set up

You set up more than half of the stupid ass lynches yesterday

and frankly I don't give a single fuck, people are doubting a townread on me, pushing towards lynches on all my townreads, and being idiotic.

FYI this is part of the game of mafia.

AD is playing a terrible game congrats AD.

Implying you know his alignment.

wooooosh

Way up on the scumdar again.

UN I frankly dont give a fuck since he's a mess but is really proud of it so it's adorable

k

Vifam should die because I'd like to watch it. ArcAngel ate something radioactive, etc etc etc

what the fuck

I can't help wanting you all dead, my psychiatrist specifically told me that my feelings cant be tamed

okay, stop with the pills

if you don't have anything useful to say then shut the FUCK up

Yesterday's lynch was indeed stupid, but I only realised that once it was sealed. But we're far from in a mess. I don't like it when people say stuff like this early on, it seems like an attempt to demoralise the town into not giving a fuck.

Yep. That's exactly what it feels like.

What is this about chkflip having been mod-confirmed?

He was the night kill, genius.

Failed miserably because mollie has absolutely no interest in being reasonable or answering questions.

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, but lets say it is -is that the a sensible way for scum to play? Obviously, not. Get on the Jacob wagon!

I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole tbh, it reeks of laziness

B/C noone is listening to me, and I'm right, and I'm watching stupid ass lynches get set up and frankly I don't give a single fuck, people are doubting a townread on me, pushing towards lynches on all my townreads, and being idiotic. AD is playing a terrible game congrats AD. UN I frankly dont give a fuck since he's a mess but is really proud of it so it's adorable, Vifam should die because I'd like to watch it. ArcAngel ate something radioactive, etc etc etc

I can't help wanting you all dead, my psychiatrist specifically told me that my feelings cant be tamed

I have been listening to you. I tried to work with you yesterday. yes I will probably paranoid about you though.

and I feel differently than you, I see some town cohesion forming and it is still early. so what if you feel like your teammates are not listening to you we win the game as a team and not by you alone.

IaI is someone I have down as scummy so I can go for that wagon. the thing I don't like about jacob is that he is posting in other games and has done nothing, no commitment in this one. I gave him a pass cos we were both in another game together but that game ended and the pass has expired and I need to see some meat from him.

borky has been in my town pile since yesterday.

I am not as comfy with majiffy as you are cos he is going after my town reads. I think it was really obvious that ua was showing signs of town flail and I wish there would have been enough people around to have moved the lynch off of him. I think he did what he thought was best for his team, which was to defend himself against a mob of stupidity and scum, gave a list of his reads and went down with fairly good grace. I don't think his game was shit at all.

I hope uber really is town it would be nice to be on the same team with him. I play in a similar way that you do as in I try to find town and work with them. I think I have a pretty solid pool and I really think we can pull this together.

This post makes me really really reallllllly hope you're town.

what do you think of IaI?

I could see scum IaI. I might even make a case. I'd prefer other lynches Today though because IaI is going to get his ass lynched sooner than later w/o my help.

Off the top of my head:
-Feels less focused than he did in Switchboard mafia. He is commenting on things as they happen and being less proactive / tunnely.
-Didn't like his "AP, why didn't you analyze any Mastinero connections?" when he hasn't done so either...And that is a playstyle thing. Why does he care that I, specifically, haven't when NO ONE really had. And add in the fact that I really HAD speculated peripherally to that (wrt Majiffy and Vifam) and the whole question just looks fake as hell.
-Bahhhh baahhhh bahhhh bahhhh Nero Cain
-Hes pushing a lurker case on JS w/o really directly calling it a lurker case.

Side note: I could buy IaI as scum with Mattp and/or JS. All that crap floating around about Matt not being scum with IaI is crap. And floating around. Because scum totally never distance or bus ever.

This whole post is good. Suspending my suspicion of AP for now.

I'm listening.

Also, I'd like to know Majiffy/Matt's reasons for suspecting Moz.

Yeah me too. Haven't really gotten a feel for anything against moz except generally bringing up his name every now and again to try to smear him with something. I don't remember seeing a case build or anything, just white noise

Also, I'd like to know Majiffy/Matt's reasons for suspecting Moz.

You can like, IDK, Iso me

lazy ass bitch

[/hypocrite]

I would not mind picking up the IaI wagon again.

VOTE: IaI

Lurking, even chronic lurking is a solid null in my mind. JacobSavage is a non-entity in my mind. I have town feels from Matt.

Then the fabled Appeal to Emotion really DOES work...

I dunno about vifam. there have been a few times that he has said exactly what I was thinking and I tend to see that as town although I know there are crossovers like that between scum and town. I already tried to do a reach out to him and he was all like "yo" so he lost some town points for that but I just don't know him as a player at all - his refusal to interact with me makes it hard to get a read but so far I have had him as town.

Sorry, if you ask me a question I'll answer it unless I get sidetracked. But if your personality doesn't really interest me I'll just ignore you for the most part.

Nothing against you I just don't really interact well with some of the people on this site.

Alright, I've had it w/ this shit

I had been enjoying your posting style thus far, but you are making it pretty damn hard to ignore how useless you're being
How about you actually say something fucking relevant for once.

All I remember is you pushing one read: that Underachivers was scum.
Congrats, they got lynched, and flipped town. And you ignored it.

I haven't seen one ounce of proactivity from you all game, minus the Underachivers lynch.

This wagon building up on me is dumb and it's not gonna fly.

Well it certainly seems to have changed something in you...

If Majiffy is telling the truth and he really does comment on every little thing directed at him, then I guess he wasn't necessarily getting into such a stupid argument with Mastin just to distance himself from the flip.

Rev, I have NO IDEA what Zab's meta is and you can't expect me to just sit here and believe he's 100% town because he's playing better or something, I'm not all about lynching Zab but he's not completely off the list for scum and that's not an outrageous statement.

Chkflip being confirmed town obviously wasn't 100%.

Interestingly enough you're now using capitals and punctuation.

Votes got your attention?

Vote: Vifam

I guess a lot of people saw it as obvious that the Mod was punishing the town for chkflip's behavior by docking time.

I was reading a lot of pages and I kind of glossed over that part. I assumed that it couldnt have been the case, because that is...sketchy modding to say the least. Force replacing would have been 100x more appropriate.

But I guess that IS what happened and it was fairly obvious to the scumteam that Chkflip was accidentally modfirmed.

I'm pretty lost.

Wut

I've been ignoring this argument because I thought of Me/MattP as a cute duo but now that it's being used as an actual argument for me being scum I'd like to see some evidence

Mmmmmm. Burden of proof disguised by nonchalance. Magically delicious

You've never seen me be lazy or not care about a game? Lol

I have a lot on my plate and I'm not incredibly interested in this game as I've explained already. The best I can do is be obnoxious and pull the, "I have a good streak of being right in the past so just shut up and sheep me" card. I can't give this game my full attention

Then, if you're even town, please tell me why the fuck SHOULD we listen to you?

You just cited a built-in excuse for being a) wrong in your reads, and b) increasingly inactive.

@Majiffy? Was that you saying Bork isn't playing to his town meta? Bullet points as to why? No quote thanks. Sorry if I already asked this, I keep thinking I have.

Gut mostly. I've played a handful of games with bork and this just doesn't feel like him at all.

Also, I'd like to know Majiffy/Matt's reasons for suspecting Moz.

I've been giving reasons all game. Check my ISO and ctrl+f Moz.

Woahhhhh

~What?

Holy shit Maestro is fast

~Only on Mondays

What th fuck happened here?

Maestro what did you do w/Majiffy's post?

People need to unvote Vifam. Miniscule chance that he is scum. Gotta be better candidates Jacob, Zab, Penguin, Arc Angel.

I'm interested to know how you have a bigger scum read on Jacob and ArcAngel than on Vifam.

How Vifam's playing could be completely scum-motivated, however Jacob's and ArcAngel's behaviors stick out like a sore thumb
ArcAngel could easily have backed off and let someone else hammer and take the heat. Jacob could have started posting up a storm to try to deflect the wagon on him or something. Either he really is THAT brazen as scum, or he really just sucks THAT much as town.

Take your pick.

Ok mozamis, why is Vifam so likely town? TBH, I see a Zabriel tunnel in my forseeable future.

Vifam's style is so conversational and relaxed. E.g p60. And quite a lot of this game. If he's scum, then he's bloody good.

I agree, and his argument with Underachivers on D1 felt pretty town as well.

But his last few posts dont feel so hot.

[UberNinja]

also:

EBWODP: Lol at Vifams wiki page.

Fuck wiki pages

fucking lol'd

[UberNinja]

Sure it is

[UberNinja]

And sure you do

[UberNinja]

Fuck you

[UberNinja]

I would vote you again if I wasn't voting you already

[UberNinja]

I'd better see more Vifam votes when I wake up

This shit will be epic

[UberNinja]

La la la didn't read much after UN's shitpost... Get back to this tomorrow but
VOTE: UberNinja

You're totally stupid. That or you're Vifam's scumbuddy.

Actually this makes sense. Vifam couldn't put Underachivers in the ground by himself so you had to step in at the end of the day and be the straw that broke the camel's back. And now you're chainsawing on me which is totally dumb.

Actually, I'd rather see you lynched then Vifam at any rate. I have had a healthy suspicion for you since the end of D1.

Unvote; Vote: Majiffy

Call it OMGUS. Get told to go fuck yourself. Cry about it.

Let's dance.

[UberNinja]

Yes, UN is being an ass to a lot of people isn't he? I'll let you all tell me what a fantastic scum play that is.

And, no, it isn't part of his scum meta. Ive played with scum UN.

Lol show me the UN town meta of being an asshole and maybe we can talk about how playstyle is somehow alignment indicative.

The "lol prove it" thing again...

You'd click the link in my sig if you really wanted to know. Specifically, pick a game where it says I was mislynched. You'd find what you were looking for very fucking easily... IF you were actually looking for it.

Vote is good. Sheep me, people.

[UberNinja]

Oh, and after reading a JacobSavage ISO I am fine with him being lynched as well, regardless of what I said earlier about him being an easy wagon because he's stupid. That shit is heinous. Die suck die.

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, but lets say it is -is that the a sensible way for scum to play? Obviously, not. Get on the Jacob wagon!

I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole tbh, it reeks of laziness

So which is it?

Hmmmm

I'm gonna go with laziness begets lazy wagons, and I still don't get a good feel about it

His ISO notwithstanding

[UberNinja]

Fair enough.

I just don't see town-mollie though

. Tell me why I am reading you as scum, and explain why that's wrong, and I will feel a lot better about your slot.

lol, so I guess you

do

know me uber if you can make a distinction between town mollie and scum mollie. which is pretty interesting cos earlier on d1 you acted like you didn't!

???

the burden of proof to support your case on why you think I am scum is on you and so far you have done a super duper crappy job with it. it is not my job to tell you why I think you think I am scum, lol. that is a pretty funny deflection though in lieu of not ever actually presenting a legitimate case.

uh... lol?

I highly doubt scum hammers that visibly and then pretends to derp about it. I have relatively little experience with ArcAngel it seems, but I don't really see it. Then again, I

have

been sufficiently duped by derpscum derp-a-lerping their way through a game, only to have me fuck things up and vote the wrong way in LyLo because I thought there was no possible way scum could/would be that stupid.

hedge

wtf does "hedge" mean in this context?

But today is hardly the final day, and I'm not at all keen on a derp-lynch at the moment, especially when it could just as well be on town and, according to my read on ArcAngel at least, WOULD be on town. If she stays alive late into game and isn't taken out by a vig or a lynch, then I will worry about her. But there are far more pressing matters at the moment. One of them being... you.

why do you have her in your town pile? and you just hedged on her in the very paragraph above you so plz walk me through the reasoning here

I don't think scum would have the balls to do what she did, obviously.

I swear, it's so weird talking to you like you're not scum. This is unnatural.
But I think it might be helping me get more solid reads. Net benefit, ahoy!

okay

"okay" indeed

penguin hasn't really ticked my meter one way or the other lately. I need to read more up on her. But her tunneling on Jacob did strike me as a little odd. I probably didn't think too much of her specifically, because she's not the player that stood out to me the most, and I tend to focus on one thing to the exclusion of all others. It's my blessing, it's my curse.

if uber flips scum bet money that penguin is town

And how about when I flip town, what is she then?

But his last few posts dont feel so hot.

out of that whole post this is the only thing that sounded genuine.

Then you are completely fucking retarded.

Nice cop-out. Have you re-read me yet?

What exactly am I copping out of?

Well if you didn't cut the original post out of the quote, maybe you'd FUCKING KNOW.

FUCKING MAGIC.

What is the point of the list? Which is in effect in this game?

What are you even talking about?

Again, try NOT CUTTING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT and then asking questions to which the answer would otherwise be OBVIOUS AS FUCK.

VOTE: Uberninja
Uber's Vifam vote is fucking horrible and makes me rethink the entire wagon
And trying to tack on being useless as a reason for Vifam doesn't jive with what he thinks of Jacob
Also his PbP walls are just a license to take shit out of context

Out of all the votes on Vifam MY vote is the horrible one? LOL

Nobody cares that you are 'rethinking the entire wagon,' you fucktard. That's just overdramatic bullshit you're spewing to make yourself sound even the slightest bit more genuine.

Last time we played you were this stupid too though, so I'm confused whether you're just really fucking retarded and you actually believe what you're saying? or if you're scum and you're playing stupid as shit on purpose?

[UberNinja]

pirate mollie's last post is the towniest she's sounded this game to me, although she was more indeterminate than scum to me before.

"herp derp mollie said I'm town; she sounds the townies she's sounded all game" ... lol

I find it weird that UberNinja would seem to object to a derp-lynch at this stage rather than on the 'final day' as he outlines in #1642. Shouldn't it be the other way around? If he means 'final day' as in LyLo, isn't that the last time you want to policy lynch?

It would not be a policy lynch at that point though. I'd much rather have stupid town alive than smart scum. Therefore lynching idiots early on and hoping they're scum is the worst possible solution in most games, and idiots like Yosarian do it all the time, and then when they lose to scum 3/4 of the time, they're like "well at least they played smartly". It's EASY AS FUCK not to die to stupid scum -- lynch all stupid people! But if you lynch all stupid people

UberNinja, can you cite any games where scum-Vifam was unusually grammatically correct in contrast to haphazard typing as town-Vifam?

This is an interesting chainsaw.

If you actually cared about this, you would probably have looked it up yourself. But since you don't care in the least, you instead just ask somebody else to do it for you. Fuck your burden-of-proof SHIT, and I will never cater to this obvious reversal tactic trying to make me flounder under providing a shit ton of info which is easily looked up by anyone who FUCKING CARES ABOUT THE TRUTH.

But, since you're so interested... Can you cite any games where town-Vifam did the opposite? Smart money says you can't. And even more smart money says you won't even fucking try, because you didn't even care about the answer to begin with, you're just trying to poke holes in my admittedly pretty thin reaction-test case against Vifam.

Still waiting for JacobSavage to express an opinion that isn't sheeping.

How about any opinion at all?

And I for one didn't interpret the chkflip-loss of time penalty as a town indicator; maybe I'm naive, but I figured that a time crunch might be detrimental to scum in that they'd be more likely to slip in making cases under increased time pressure and/or fail to whittle our numbers via lynching with shorter time frames to work with. A moot point now, but given that Maestro didn't seem to react immediately implied that he'd thought through the ramifications of his penalty choice.

This is pretty stupid.




And what the FUCK are 1672/1673?

[UberNinja]

Also UN is like really really town. Really REALLY town.

At least fucking

somebody

with a brain sees it.

I think Mollie is town, but that post in particular was just kind of neutral.

Why in the hell do you think mollie is town though?

ActionDan's play has become a lot weaker since D1, he was leaning town at first but the more he posts the worse I feel about him.

So weaker = scummy? JS's play has been consistently weak, lets lynch him!!!1111one!1.

Or we can just lynch Vifam for epic profit.

Vifam is an alright choice, but if we're playing to win here, Majiffy should die, because his reads make no fucking sense and also because of his epic push to get Underachivers lynched on Day 1 even though it was obvious as fuck that they were town, and even MORE so in hindsight?

Also he's voting for me and I don't like that one bit.

Scum and need to die:
Majiffy
pirate mollie
Vifam

Stupid and may need to die:
penguin_alien
JacobSavage
ArcAngel9

In that order, please and thanks.

@ everyone: Thoughts on MattP not pushing many people today, after being very, very anti-Lord Mhork/I Am Innocent on Day 1? Other than "he's busy" obviously... do you think he's coasting, because he's done a good job of stirring up shit and then leaving everyone else to sort it out?

He's in my blind spot right now and I can't get a read on him.

[UberNinja]

Actually this makes sense. Vifam couldn't put Underachivers in the ground by himself so you had to step in at the end of the day and be the straw that broke the camel's back. And now you're chainsawing on me which is totally dumb.

Actually, I'd rather see you lynched then Vifam at any rate. I have had a healthy suspicion for you since the end of D1.

1) So you're voting me for associative tells on an unflipped player. Adorable.
2) I'm not chainsawing shit; chainsawing would require defending someone. And I'm certainly not defending Vifam, if that's whom you're referring to.
3) Give me a case so I can tear it apart on your dipshit ass.

You'd click the link in my sig if you really wanted to know. Specifically, pick a game where it says I was mislynched. You'd find what you were looking for very fucking easily... IF you were actually looking for it.

Burden of proof isn't on me to back up a claim, and I sure as shit am not going to go crawling through game after game for meta I don't even know exists.

This whole post is dumb as fuck.

[UberNinja]

La la la didn't read much after UN's shitpost... Get back to this tomorrow but
VOTE: UberNinja

You're totally stupid. That or you're Vifam's scumbuddy.

Actually this makes sense. Vifam couldn't put Underachivers in the ground by himself so you had to step in at the end of the day and be the straw that broke the camel's back. And now you're chainsawing on me which is totally dumb.

Actually, I'd rather see you lynched then Vifam at any rate. I have had a healthy suspicion for you since the end of D1.

Unvote; Vote: Majiffy

Call it OMGUS. Get told to go fuck yourself. Cry about it.

Let's dance.

This is REALLY fucking dumb

NO U

[UberNinja]

I'm gonna go with laziness begets lazy wagons, and I still don't get a good feel about it

His ISO notwithstanding

To me, it seems you're more interested in going after one of the "big guns" just to make the game more interesting. "Wouldn't it be amazing if I caught Majiffy/Mollie/Mattp/Vifam, what a great scum catch that would be!". And you're right, if ANY of those players are scum, I'd be amazed, and you could give yourself a huge pat on the back. But just look at what's much more likely, that they are all town, and scum are doing what they do best, which is lurk/semi lurk and let town tear themselves apart. Let's get rid of the obvious scum first -e.g Jacob -and if the big shots are still around later on, then you can do your Sherlock Holmes bit, and we can all say "Wonderful, Uber, amazing play!".

You forget the part where I'LL BE FUCKING DEAD BY THAT POINT.

Wanna see how scum like to get me mislynched to save their own asses, because I have a posting style that's abrasive in large games wehre there are lots of possibilities for scum people? Feel free to check my past games. I've been mislynched like seven times in the past year. And each time, every single fucking stupid townie that was on my lynch was like "ooops, but at least we won because we followed your reads Uber"

But yeah, lets catch someone who actually might be scum first.

You don't think any of Majiffy/Mollie/MattP/Vifam could be scum? Then you are a fool. A

great

fool.

And "His ISO notwithstanding"??? How else do you catch scum without looking at what they have actually said?!. Jacob's post about voting UA because "people had jumped off his wagon" (like that hadn't happened to Mhork and pretty much EVERY other wagon Day 1) was laughable, and should get him lynched. And you should be lynching him.

I disagree. I'd much rather lynch smart scum who are affecting the outcome of the game on a real time basis, than scum who are lurkers and can be quicklynched at the drop of a hat when necessary.

Because if you lynch all the easy scum first, then all of the smart scum kill off all of the smart townies, and TOWN FUCKING LOSES.

THIS IS HOW SCUM WINS GAMES. HELLO.

[UberNinja]

Honestly if he doesnt die today Im the fuck out of this game. Not doing this shit again.

Fucking leave already you little bitch

[UberNinja]

Side note: I cant think of anything melodramatic enough to do if we lynch Uber today and he flips town. But seriously, we aren't lynching Uber ever.

Please provide legitimate reasons for your town-tunnel because I'm not seeing any town out of UN whatsoever.

Yeah cause you're a fucking scumbag who doesn't have any vested interest in keeping someone like me around

i.e. someone WHO GETS SHIT DONE AND GETS SCUM LYNCHED

p-edit: lol

[UberNinja]

Also explain to me how UN fucking deflecting everything I say with ad hominem is fucking town

Name one thing I have deflected, and I will gladly rectify

Ohhhhh wait you can't

[UberNinja]

Vifam is an alright choice, but if we're playing to win here, Majiffy should die, because his reads make no fucking sense and also because of his epic push to get Underachivers lynched on Day 1 even though it was obvious as fuck that they were town, and even MORE so in hindsight?

Are you fucking serious you were practically calling them scum with mollie

"LOL GO FIND ME PROOF OF WHERE I SAID THAT"

And don't chop out the context this time, asshole

[UberNinja]

Hi PV. I've been playing a lot of STO and not checking MS as often. I actually kind of buy AP's explanation for UN's Vifam case. The IaI wagon is comfortable though. I'd rather finish it than have it be something that keeps coming up.

PEdit: Seriously JS?

This is the single scummiest post all game.

Is this predicated on JS being scum and zabriel being his buddy? If so, then I could possibly see it, since he'd be coasting and not wanting a JS lynch, and also not wanting to rock the boat and upset the perfect storm of me, Majiffy, pirate mollie, bork, and Vifam all at the same time.

Otherwise, you'll have to explain it to me.

Honestly though, I'm getting kind of tired of this shit fight between me and all of the aforementioned scum/assholes/complete fucking idiots.

[UberNinja]

[quote="

IAI's and Hero's same read on Mollie means that a read on them should be the same?

no but both Hero and IAI have some similar talking points.

+Mollie does look pretty scummy]Mollie: Why are you not voting your scum reads?[/b]

quite a good thing to ask.

Mastin and Nero out of hydra posts

Spoiler:

Hi, guys.

As a warning, our hydra hasn't been activated quite yet. So we can't play yet.

This is going to be my sole out of hydra post.

We are killing Bitmap today. Make it so.

vote:Bitmap

This is going to be my sole out of hydra post.

But I need to make one more.

Mod:

My half of the hydra will be V/LA over the weekend.


Btw, TheReverand is pretty much confscum. Moz is bad, but not as bad.
I'll elaborate as soon as the damn hydra account is activated. (It STILL isn't.)

fuck it. Tired of waiting on my hydra.

vote:chk

wanted to what happened.

this is a townie thing to do

More people need to ignore the current I_Am_Innocent and TheUnderachivers wagons and vote for pirate mollie.

Yo, UN, you scum?

You're dancing around our lynch, calling us scummy but not actually firmly saying we're scum.

Which, if my memory isn't betraying me (it is overly fond of stabbing me in the back ), was something you were rather fond of doing as scum in 1377.

Nope. And I'm not dancing around your lynch; I'm pushing a better one.

Uhhhhh, 1377? you mean 1379?
Don't ask me why Matt changed it.

Not as definite as I'd prefer, but probably the strongest of those I've done an iso for.

I actually read you and Nero very differently this game. Those posts which I can tell are yours, seem very town.

Some of Nero's posts seem town as well, but the argument with Vifam just didn't feel so great.

After thinking not-so long and hard about it, I am ultimately against a Nero/mastin lynch today. I think that though they have said some scummy things, there are much better people to lynch, like mollie.

And when I was scum last time against mastin, I was shitting bricks because he had things all nailed down, and I had to pull mountains of shit out of my ass and shove it down people's throats in order to get them to lynch him instead of me.

I want him around, because he sees right through all that shit. And if what he's saying about Nero is true (I personally do not have much experience, but mastin holds him in pretty high regard), then they are definitely worth keeping around, even on the off-chance they're town.

Not to mention, I don't get an entirely good feeling from UA wagon. I feel there are only 3 people with a reason to be there, AJ, Vifam, and to an extent Majiffy. Everyone else is just along for the ride, and it doesn't "feel" like a good wagon should feel, to me.

- Aj the Epic ("VOTE: TheUnderachivers I've got me a scum read. And I definitely am picking up town-vifam reads as well." this vote feels good)
- Vifam (his vote's at least consistent with what he's been saying so far)
- Herobrine (it's herobrine, obviously this is a suspect vote)
- borkjerfkin (absolutely no reasons for his vote in post 1062. he votes UA and then talks about something else for the rest of his post)
- zabriel (suspect vote: "If there's a Vig or something of the like around, we might just be better off hitting Achivers and letting IaI get bumped off tonight possibly. vote: UA" <-- what the fuck is that shit)
- Majiffy ("Stop fucking dismantling the strongest wagon and get the fuck back on UA." feels good, I have no problem with his vote here, even though I think it is possible misplaced, there's nothing wrong with the vote itself)
- chkflip (said he was going to vote with MattP, but abandoned the IAI wagon as soon as it seemed the UA wagon had more steam. Also, his position on wagons, 2nd on Mhork, 6th on UA, doesn't feel good to me either. I trust 1st, 3rd, sometimes 4th, L-1, and hammer votes on a wagon the most. That's a lot of spots, and he still hasn't hit them)

And I don't like the situation of a few people off the wagon either for that matter:
- MattP (pushed like hell for a Lord Mhork wagon, pushed like hell for an IAI wagon... then sat on it while the UA wagon built. now, where is he?)
- Bitmap and TheRev are on 1-person wagons which are going nowhere. That's never the town thing to be doing. Wagon, motherfuckers.

I suppose the person(s) I need to read up on the most are JacobSavage and Lord Mhork. Mhork's iffy comment in 282 notwithstanding, nothing else has really jumped out at me, either positively or negatively. And Jacob is a bit of a blind spot. So is Peregrine for that matter.

And mollie still needs to die.

Oh hey look, a whole fucking post dedicated to the fact that Underachivers is a bad lynch...

You must not have been looking very hard, bork, if you got no impression that I thought UA was town (or at the very least, a bad lynch) from my ISO at any point:

I got no impression that you thought that [UA was town] from your ISO at any point.

Fucking laughable.

And oh hey look! You've been trying to get me lynched for this since Day 1...

More people need to ignore the current I_Am_Innocent and TheUnderachivers wagons and vote for pirate mollie.

Swtich Mollie with JS and this post is gold. JS is scum and everyone avoiding JS is suspect.

Yep this is how mafia works.


In other news I like how UN's wall has underacheeevers (the lead wagon) "going way up on his scumdar" but totally wants everyone to ignore it in favor of mollie.

it makes sense if you pay attention to how scummy mollie is on a wholistic level compared to underacheeeevers one or two dodgy posts in that exchange with vifam

really, it does

good job trying to casually push blame on me though.

Hmmmm I forgot about this. This changes things.

[UberNinja]

UberNinja really is an asshole

And I had JUST changed my wiki, too...

From:

I am known for being [...] somewhat abrasive both in personality and in my play. Sorry, in advance.

To:

I am known for being [...] pretty unorthodox in my play. Sorry in advance if I offend you!

Guess it's time to change it back, and also to include this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_KDAicF0Yo#t=12s

[UberNinja]

Fine I will tone it down then, if you bitches can't stand a little heat in the kitchen

[UberNinja]

I will settle on Majiffy or Mollie if I have to.

[UberNinja]

UN isn't even reading the fucking thread

clue me in on what you mean here

[UberNinja]

UN is a master at not getting lynched when he wants to be.

This is the second time I have heard somebody say this in the past week, and if you look at my wiki, you'll see that's clearly not the case, as I have been lynched in roughly 1/3 of the games I have played on site, and that's a pretty damn high percentage for someone of my "caliber". Getting mislynched that many times is nothing to bat your eyes at. And unrelatedly, the vast majority of those games (about 75% I believe) town lost the game.

Anyway, that statistic has everything to do with how I relate with other players when I play.
And I accept that, because there are other benefits to how I play, which ultimately outweigh the inherent disadvantages.

[UberNinja]

Seriously, stop. If you are town. Everyone. Take a step back. Go smoke some of Zab's ganja (and lynch the shit out of him too) or drink a beer or something.

This arguing is really antitown and as much as I'd love to have my dream lynch of mattp, we are getting nowhere with threatening to replace out and just escalating the argument.

Seriously, this was super town on town on town. Bork/Jiffy/UN are really really town. Im inclined to let Mollie and Vifam go along for the ride right now.

Lets pick a good weak lynch, pass it in a short amount of time, get a scum flip, and play D3 like we mean it?

/tryhard.

I'm game for that at this point, as I have resigned myself to either being lynched or NK'd before D3 anyway.

And if Zab flips town???

What then

Do you have a town read on him? Or are you saying this just to say it

[UberNinja]

You still haven't fixed the grammatical mistake in your signature AP.

I second this snarky yet reasonable request.

Change

other's

to

others'

, please.

[UberNinja]

@UN: When you are scum I mean. Your town play makes everyone want to lynch you from what Ive seen.

Well, then, maybe.

P-edit: lol.

DO IT MOTHERFUCKER

[UberNinja]

I'm rarely wrong

Vote Archiver

Why is this guy not lynched yet

[UberNinja]

Also, anticlimactically, after skimming through Vifam's ISO, it becomes clear that I must have been imposing some sort of image of Ythan or cyberbob onto him.
He has actually been capitalizing shit for the whole game. He just routinely leaves off closing punctuation, which made me make the mental leap. Don't know why.

Anyway, carry on. My grammar tell on Vifam is a steaming pile of shit misrep, and I take it back.

[UberNinja]

No one is perfect

Me too.

Fucking happy?

[UberNinja]

UN isn't even reading the fucking thread

clue me in on what you mean here

Still interested to know what the fuck you meant here Ma Jiffy

[UberNinja]

I will settle on Majiffy or Mollie if I have to.

I want to start settling on a compromise lynch. How about:

Zabriel
P_A
IaI?
Mattp (reaching, I know)

Where do you see either of us in that list?

[UberNinja]

Fine I will tone it down then, if you bitches can't stand a little heat in the kitchen

If you insult everyone, you won't gain any support for your candidates. It's politics.

Fine. This is politics?

If you vote for Majiffy, I will:

- Kiss 37 babies.

- Write a scandalous novel detailing the dirty little secrets of my political life (which involve: staring at another congresswoman's ass during the presidential inauguration, running my finger around the frosting on the bottom of somebody else's birthday cake, and licking it off my finger right in front of them, mooning the secret service sporadically, and using faux racial slurs on live public television).

- Attend the groundbreaking ceremony of a new hospital, and cut the red ribbon with the golden scissors.

- Other random assorted bullshit to curry favor.

You name it. I'm a politician so I'll do it.

[UberNinja]

Penguin's lending credence to Uberninja's grammar theory is the only bad thing I can see from her.

...

UberNinja's willingness to cop to misinterpreting Vifam's grammar thing makes me think the former is town, although I don't see that I was unreasonable in asking UberNinja to back up his original statement. If he'd come back telling me to check out any/all of Vifam's games to see such a tell in action, I'd have tracked it/them down, but given that Vifam seems to have around 50 games, and I'd think if some straightforward tell had existed in all of them he'd have adjusted accordingly, I don't think it was unreasonable to ask UberNinja to back up the point originally.

The point was objectively a bad point and I don't like that you're humoring it.

lol cool story bork

so which is it

[UberNinja]

okay. I am doing a serious hard reset. it is possible that I am trolleytracking on uber cos his reads are so bad and I always have higher expectations from good players only sometimes those expectations bite me in the ass and then I have to face the meta music for being wrong about them for like a year. if he is town he is so wrong though and I sincerely hope he has big enough balls to admit it in post game.

my balls are pretty big, dont worry about it

in other news this post coming from you is rather refreshing. there may be hope for the game yet. are you town?

I feel really good about majiffy. I think he is town.

do you think he is the same as me, "town and wrong as fuck" or do you think (like I think) that he's just kinda coasting and throwing shit around and seeing where it sticks, and then you're just interpreting it differently than me?

I liked penguin's recent post cos she provided more reads but I still don't know. I will really need someone to to do a comparison between one of her town games and her scum games in order to help provide clarity. I am telling you guys she is sneaky and one to watch but too good of a player to waste on a weak meta case.

no meta w/her so i have no idea. do you have any links?

jacob is still posting in other games. :/ I don't think he should be given anymore passes.

if this is the case then he has well and truly worn out his lenience period w/me

unvote; vote: jacob

I don't like how mattp throws a primadonna hissy fit out of nowhere cos he did not get his way over a lynch and then disappears.

do you think its a scum act, or do you think he's legit town and just being a bitch about it

arcangel has not caught up or delivered any reads for this day round. what the fuck is up with that.

arcangel is also slowly bumping her way up the scumdar

I am going with that everyone who was involved in the shitstorm of posting last night is probably town. which means scum is sitting back and enjoying the show and letting town eat its own. so who was on the fringes?

this might be truer than you know

given my and bork's previous experience in open 442, this has all the earmarks of being a repeat situation
honestly enough i am surprised he hasn't been more of an asshole to me, or vice versa, in this game

I don't find vifam's vote on action dan too far out in left field cos I have been wondering about him myself. he has provided some town reads but has done a whole lot as far as diving in and pushing his suspects. like I said on d1, I am always sus of someone who does not know me putting me in their town pile especially in the way that he did and at the time that he did. AP had posts to back it up and has solidly been town but AD had done a fade and I am concerned.

i need to re-read AD cause he's in my blindspot atm

too much focusing on the loud ones for the last few days

I don't know about IaI what she is going after seems to be extraneous points. I think I am most comfortable with a jacob lynch. we need a scum flip to help form some town cohesion cos there are a bunch of strong personalities in this game and he isn't doing shit. like seriously nothing.

if nothing else that makes a jacob lynch a good lynch. if he flips town it gets rid of dead weight. if he flips scum it gets rid of lurkerscum dead weight. either way i dont mind much, and i'd much rather that than one of the loud people die

because loud people and/or people who talk a lot are just MUCH MORE BETTER for winning games, in all cases, bar none. this is why underachivers was a bad lynch as well. because mastin talks a shit ton and could have given us a lot of much needed perspective today

AP I hear you about zabriel but I just can't get a handle on him. he is null for me no matter which way I look at him.

same, strangely enough. he is in my blindspot as well


also i'm sick as a dog so dont expect much from me today
actually on the other hand i might have more time to post

so who knows

anyway i am sick as a dog so you should all feel sorry for me regardless of my posting

[UberNinja]

Those both express the same opinion.

... Those are completely congruent statements.

Reading comprehension; apparently you have none.

p-edit: Oh hi Bork.

fuck you guys i have an excuse

i cant think straight

whats YORU excuse

[UberNinja]

my balls are pretty big, dont worry about it

we'll see about that. you have yet to address that you said you had seen me buddy up before as scum but failed to back it up and you keep avoiding it whenever I bring it up.

dont remember saying this but i might have been mixed up w/you and someone else
i looked at your wiki and i dont recall having been in any of your scum games

in other news this post coming from you is rather refreshing. there may be hope for the game yet.

are you town?

yes

k. i believe you. maybe.

no meta w/her so i have no idea. do you have any links?

scum: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23927
town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=24809

k thx

dammit, those posts all look pretty similar. she's a waller, that's for sure
that doesn't help me much actually, after all

what's your opinion?

if this is the case then he has well and truly worn out his lenience period w/me

unvote; vote: jacob

okay

that's it?

do you think its a scum act, or do you think he's legit town and just being a bitch about it

I thought AP was going to do a meta research on matt. I would like to know if matt does the dramatics as scum.

then why don't YOU do meta research about it?

you seem to be more than willing to expect me to do meta research on penguin alien, and angry pidgeon to do it on matt...

what about you?

arcangel is also slowly bumping her way up the scumdar

why slowly

because i still dont see her hammer as having come from scum, plus as already evidenced by my posts defending arcangel (and jacobsavage before, for that matter), i am pretty lenient with derp/stupid/etc players because they get lynched far too often as it is, and i like to see smarter, stronger players that i think are scum lynched earlier in teh game (with teh exception of players like underachivers who will provide goodcontent regardless of alignment)

this might be truer than you know

given my and bork's previous experience in open 442, this has all the earmarks of being a repeat situation
honestly enough i am surprised he hasn't been more of an asshole to me, or vice versa, in this game

okay

why comment if you're not even going to comment

if nothing else that makes a jacob lynch a good lynch. if he flips town it gets rid of dead weight. if he flips scum it gets rid of lurkerscum dead weight. either way i dont mind much, and i'd much rather that than one of the loud people die

I really want to lynch scum uber plz help me do that.

and who do you think is scum

not includng me or obvtown or teh derps

because loud people and/or people who talk a lot are just MUCH MORE BETTER for winning games, in all cases, bar none. this is why underachivers was a bad lynch as well. because mastin talks a shit ton and could have given us a lot of much needed perspective today

well, yeah, I agree with the principle of this but I think the loud players have seen loud scum dominate and steer a game into a scum win that is why we are all so paranoid of each other, right? reserved for post game discussion.

yeah but thats why we whould more likely want to lynch strong players (town or scum) earlier on right? to make sure that doesn't happen this game. right?

also i'm sick as a dog so dont expect much from me today
actually on the other hand i might have more time to post

so who knows

anyway i am sick as a dog so you should all feel sorry for me regardless of my posting

well I hope you get to feeling better!

<3 i feel a little better already

[UberNinja]

Are you even voting UN, Mollie?

no unfortunately for you we are getting to understand each other

[UberNinja]

It shouldn't demoralize anyone, noone gives a shit about my opinion!

That's silly. I'm still listening to you. Granted my activity is making me a nonentity, but I am listening!

What are your thoughts on ArcAngel? Like, would you be willing to lynch her dead?

TL;DR:
ArcAngel is scum. Can we please lynch her?

First tell me.. what did i do that looked scum?
i get that i haven't been major talk here but lynching me is not going to help the town.. you will be down with more town and that's going to benefit mafia.

your reason to speak my name loud is pointless.. if you really want to lynch scum, look at the game and there are more people who look way to scummier than me..


Alright people... i know i haven't been much active, it was mainly becuz i have been working and had busy week and each time i come here.. i see 10 unread pages which scares me off a bit.. and i know that its not something that anyone can appreciate but i will try my best here... and i do my thing in my style.

@Mod, Please give us the new Vote tally...

you seem pretty defensive, and you also haven't been providing content, and you also just neglected commented on anything relevant

give us a reads list please

[UberNinja]

It shouldn't demoralize anyone, noone gives a shit about my opinion!

That's silly. I'm still listening to you. Granted my activity is making me a nonentity, but I am listening!

What are your thoughts on ArcAngel? Like, would you be willing to lynch her dead?

TL;DR:
ArcAngel is scum. Can we please lynch her?

First tell me.. what did i do that looked scum?
i get that i haven't been major talk here but lynching me is not going to help the town.. you will be down with more town and that's going to benefit mafia.

your reason to speak my name loud is pointless.. if you really want to lynch scum, look at the game and there are more people who look way to scummier than me..


Alright people... i know i haven't been much active, it was mainly becuz i have been working and had busy week and each time i come here.. i see 10 unread pages which scares me off a bit.. and i know that its not something that anyone can appreciate but i will try my best here... and i do my thing in my style.

@Mod, Please give us the new Vote tally...

On side this is just deflection


On the other I think the last thing she said is kind of town

This slot is dumb

uh huh

[UberNinja]

Yeah I looked back and her whole "I want to lynch scum uber plz help me do that", I read that as her calling you scum to some un-named person she quoted since she just uses

instead of

.

Carry on.

ur so dumb Ma Jiffy

now who do you think is scum

full list of players and your opininons plz

[UberNinja]

And by that I don't mean YOUR dumb

i lol'd too

[UberNinja]

I'm not really sure... I posted and that was like wait when did I quote the OP...
Also I'm a leading wagon, again. It makes me feel loved and warm and fuzzy inside.

Also VOTE: I am Innocent as a shameless OMGUS / He's also got a wagon on him/ If I aI ever bothered to meta me he'd find some amazing lurking.

mfw JS comes back and votes the other leading wagon

LOLWUT

lynch this motherfucker with fire

[UberNinja]

Also, wtf. Matt acknowledged that im voting the only person hes willing to lynch today, but thinks im useless. Doesn't get more obv than this guys. Also he admits to not reading, so how the fuck does he know what ive been up to to deem it useless.

thats actually a really good point

[UberNinja]

Vote: I Am Innocent

Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.

wait, i missed something

who is this

[UberNinja]

God I hope matt kills me tonight. So Nero and I can hug each other and cry in the dead QT.

I hope you die tonight

Best townie NK ever

best TOWNIE nk ever?

[UberNinja]

Vote: I Am Innocent

Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.

wait, i missed something

who is this

subbing in for herobrine.

great. so who are you

[UberNinja]

hey mantis what were nacho's other reads

^

You two are cute together. I really mean that.

[UberNinja]

And apparently I missed ~pages~

I'll read it tomorrow.

[UberNinja]

Holy shit, 12 pages. Uhhhh...

Later tonight. Peace

[UberNinja]

lol I miss a day of this, and I'm 22 pages behind... WTF GAME, LOL

reading now... i expect this to be pretty fuckin entertaining tbh

[UberNinja]

Nigga it's late

White boy, you don't know the meaning of the word late. It's 5.27am here, I'm just starting to get tired.

fucking lol

[UberNinja]

In the future, mantis, I would prefer you PM me as soon as your Hydra account is activated.
Very bad form to post before any announcement, in my view. I'm kinda pissed, but whatever.

Go ahead...

sorry maestro, i know it was bad form.


sorry..

Just gonna go with this as the reason for the thread-lock yesterday? Don't see anything else that might have caused it.

You were paying close enough attention...

...that you noticed the thread was locked?

...for a brief five minute period?

...on a day where you made 0 posts in the thread?

X

[UberNinja]

Why would any scum do that?

LOL

perfect

[UberNinja]

Also, your sig is grammatically incorrect. It should read...

To post is to be perceived. One cannot know one's own alignment except through others' reads.

Learn to use an apostrophe.

Roflroflrofl that's 3 people ITT that have got him on that now.

hahaha

this thread fucking

delivers!

[UberNinja]

just hjt page 83

this is getting epic

[UberNinja]

I'm @ page 86, can't finish reading in this sitting, and I'll be

V/LA this weekend, mod

, so my thoughts so far are:

1. AP is 100% town. trying to find the truth, being really pro-active, really easy to read, etc.
2. I believe IAI is a legit cop, his play before the claim makes sense and so does the claim and crumb. Doc on him plzthx.
3. Matt is a slippery mofo so idk, but AP's linked Matt-scum QT posts look pretty damning. Also I could totally see Matt doing that.
4. Majiffy looks significantly more town actually. He's enjoying the ride like me, but not in a scummy/coasting way. Townier.
5. Pirate mollie's vote and snarky comments to Matt seem totally legit. She's working her way into my heart as town.
6. Rev is really likely town. Handled AP's pressure well, seems legitimately suspicious of Mhork, the whole nine.

Really exciting reading this, but I have to go in a few min and aughhhh I wanna know what happens.
But if a lynch is about to happen soon, I want to get this out there before the thread gets locked.

See you in a few hours. And I hope I can post over the weekend if the thread's still open (prob not, though )

[UberNinja]

i don't know about IAI and Matt being scum together, just based on the fact that IAI claimed shortly after. that doesn't seem like enough to say with certainty.

I never said that is why they HAVE to be scum together, otherwise I wouldnt give a shit about which one I want to lynch today. Holy fuck.
Mattp is scum for his overall play. This gambit is noting special for him. IaI is suspect for outting his PR for

no fucking reason whatsoever.

How is this hard to understand.

no fucking reason whatsoever??

uhhhh no, I see IAI as legit

[UberNinja]

It's stupid because everything seems stupid to someone who is stupid. Trust me, I'm stupid.

You appear determined to make it impossible to play at work without laughing out loud every four minutes or so on average. Damn you sir.

[UberNinja]

I hope it wasn't because I called him an idiot for thinking UberNinja actually had a dead dog

I don't even know who made up that fucking story

I don't even have a dog

[UberNinja]

i tried to read that as an acrostic with a hidden message in it

it didn't work

but just in case, BWAWB to you too

what is BWAWB

liking aj for town btw

agreed.

agreed


wow the conversation between mollie and both heads of dreams of grandeur on page 95 makes my head hurt
...and i still learned nothing from it

DONE WITH THIS BEAST

here's how I'm looking for scumreads:
ArcAngel > mozamis > IaI > PeregrineV > AJ the Epic

IAI, ArcAngel, and AJ the Epic are on this list which makes it a bad list

why the fuck is any one of them on this list.
(except arcangel, you explained, and i disagree. the other two tho? town imo)

PV is popping in and making comments which betray his greater interest in the game then he is trying to portray
so i understand that one. actually, i want him to post more. he's made comments against me twice or three times now
i want to explore that

mozamis i'm rather ambivalent about.
lynch him, don't lynch him.
noodles, don't noodles.

¯\_(-_-)_/¯

but IAI and AJ are probtown and arcangel's hammer still doesn't tickle me as scum no matter any way i look at it

[UberNinja]

also

i had a huge scum read on hero

but...

you seem pretty town so far
don't fuck this up for yourself

i will fucking bury you

[UberNinja]

we were once so close
trolling, laughing, and bonding
please come back to me

motherfucker, a
haiku is a song that has
seventeen syllab



... oh

[UberNinja]

god can we plz just lynch nachodreamz they are the most dangerous peeps in this game

VOTE: dreamz

why are they? i don't see it

i think they're being quite "helpful"

[UberNinja]

i fucking lost it at this

why the fuck couldnt i have been on last night

whyyyyy

[UberNinja]

Re AJ the E.

AjTheEpic and Borkj

Except I'm not...

Pretty townie response. Scum are usually afraid to post so carelessly. Town dont give a fuck and are more likely to be insistent on their townieness as a general response instead of trying to posture by asking questions back or w/e.

you will go far

this is actually one of the tells that makes me such a good scumhunter

[UberNinja]

Yes, but its more ridiculous to assume that IaI/Matt are town.

IaI decided to out his PR (which is the strongest in the game) in a mere 17 minute span after a lurkaderp bull****ter claimed a GS on him? Who does that? Add in the fact that Matt had already faked a bs daycop on OotN and IaI isnt even REMOTELY suspicious?

He just claims cop? What if Matt was town and faking? What if Matt was scum and faking?

IaI is either seriously bad at this game, or is mafia

Screw you buddy.

Dude I am the cop. Like you said, the strongest in the game. You said earlier town IAI wouldn't sit back and just be tunnelled, but can you picture me playing like I did in Switchboard. I got lynched D2 that game.

My hope was to lay low. Somewhat pretend to always be catching up. Truth be told, I follow this game pretty regularly on my phonem hence why I saw what was going down with what I now know was a fake claim. But I hate to post on it, and I keep track of votes on a spreadsheet on my home computer. That is where I do must of my work.

So yeah, when I knew I had somewhere between 4-6 votes already, and votes were piling up on me while I was at work (YOU AP WERE ONE OF THEM.....why weren't you remotely suspicious), I had no choice but to come clean.

Or maybe you think it better I just continue to lay low and have someone hammer without asking for a claim? LIKE DAY ONE???

No, I played the best I could in that situation. To suggest otherwise is scummy.

*********************

No more needing to lay low. I want to spell something out for everyone.

Nobody......let me repeat, NOBODY, has a town read on Jacob. If you do, I'd love to hear it, but I can't remember one person suggesting that this game....90+ odd pages worth.

Yet he continues to be an afterthought. He has not had a wagon greater than 5 votes this game. UA suggested lynching him D2 when he got lynched (1374). The only reason I didn't investigate him last night was because I thought he would be the easier of my 2 suspects to get lynched today so why waste the investigation on him over Mollie.

Boy was I wrong. Even now, Lord is confirmed. No CC on my role. I have cleared Mollie. UA flipped town. That is 4 of the last 5 wagons from D1. The 5th, which stalled at 5......Jacob.

Let's save the hours and vote him off. And if you don't want to, please state why in your next post.

Unvote; Vote: JacobSavage

[UberNinja]

*Matt as scum fakeclaims a role to draw out the cop but then stops pushing him immediately instead of gaining the easy mislynch*

Yeah ok, let's look at the reactions

who the fuck are you



here we go again

[UberNinja]

We bring you a brief pause to your game for this commercial message.

"Vote Jacob. It's the right thing to do."

We now take you back to your regularly scheduled program.

yes. this

[UberNinja]

<<< also, self-reminder to interrogate PV as soon as i am done reading >>>

[UberNinja]

Matt-scum QT posts look pretty damning

VOTE: UN

Opportunistic scumshit

Fucking "damning" my ass

I DO THIS SHIT AS TOWN AND SCUM AND YOU KNOW THAT

You can fencesit more you useless scummy scumshit

lol

the fact that you suspect me for suspecting you is very cute...

...especially given that you know that i will never ever trust you i.e. disney villains mafia when i hammered wrong in lylo just to make sure i didnt lose to you, and you're pretending like we dont have history together of that deep level of distrust

in order to claim that we DO hav ehistory together of me ignoring scummy shit you do and having unreasonable town reads on you

looool

[UberNinja]

I no longer have a townread on Majiffy because of his vote on IAI

Hey, Mr "I out cops for fun", maybe next time you can include how I should have a town read on you.

Seriously Mattp is actually intentionally trolling this game and its sad that no one is piling on to lynch him. Hes mafia aligned. Get over it.

first we should lynch JS

just to get rid of dead weight, stop wasting the deadline, alleviate a common itch, etc, etc

AND in the event that matt is town, leaving him alive one or two more days couldn't hurt that much.
if he's town and suspects someone who's scum, and has a reason to live, scum won't want him around, they will kill him off soon enough.

also i highly doubt he is anything more than a goon if scum, based on the level of brashness in his play
(i dont hav emeta to back this up tho)

[UberNinja]

Where were you when we were trying to lynch UN earlier?

trying to lynch the mhork and IAI lol

[UberNinja]

...that you noticed the thread was locked?

...for a brief five minute period?

...on a day where you made 0 posts in the thread?

Yes. My only posting that day (horrible work day) was to close out Agency Mafia.

do tell...

[UberNinja]

If you believe he is the cop, why not follow the cop and vote Jacob?

Because He investigated Mollie and got an innocent on her last night. All things considered, Mollie is the most likely person to be town in the game after Mhork.

Why the fuck should I sheep IaI on to JS? The JS case is garbage and based on him being a lurker/compromise. IaI supporting it doesnt exactly instill confidence in it.

Why are you sheeping IaI's JS read?

what the fuck is this post

mollie was anything

but

protown on day 1

also you are refusing to vote JS? really?
actually i was in that boat too........ HUNDREDS OF POSTS AGO, before d2 actually happened. and all JS has done is come in, throw down a vote, and then peace out

also, since fucking when is a completely absent, completely useless TOWN player that hard to lynch?

it actually makes sense that he's probably scum. its one of the few things that DOES make sense in this game.

[UberNinja]

I'm @ page 86, can't finish reading in this sitting, and I'll be

V/LA this weekend, mod

, so my thoughts so far are:

1. AP is 100% town. trying to find the truth, being really pro-active, really easy to read, etc.
2. I believe IAI is a legit cop, his play before the claim makes sense and so does the claim and crumb. Doc on him plzthx.
3. Matt is a slippery mofo so idk, but AP's linked Matt-scum QT posts look pretty damning. Also I could totally see Matt doing that.
4. Majiffy looks significantly more town actually. He's enjoying the ride like me, but not in a scummy/coasting way. Townier.
5. Pirate mollie's vote and snarky comments to Matt seem totally legit. She's working her way into my heart as town.
6. Rev is really likely town. Handled AP's pressure well, seems legitimately suspicious of Mhork, the whole nine.

Really exciting reading this, but I have to go in a few min and aughhhh I wanna know what happens.
But if a lynch is about to happen soon, I want to get this out there before the thread gets locked.

See you in a few hours. And I hope I can post over the weekend if the thread's still open (prob not, though )

if you believe that IaI is a legit cop then I should be your second to top town read

why, because you started voting matt afterwards?

lol

[UberNinja]

ohhhh he claimed he investigated you n1

missed that before; i was trying to read as fast as possible because i had 20 pages to catch up on

[UberNinja]

k, so we now have (my reads, but they should be your reads too):

Majiffy - drove nails into UA's coffin d1 after vifam built it, but seems much townier in d2 after "battle royale(s)"

pirate mollie - town via IAI

Lord Mhork - mod-confirmed Innocent child

Om of the Nom

ArcAngel9 - derp-hammered UA, newbtown read

Josh Lyman

ActionDan - seems hard to lynch like JS even though people are screaming for his head
zabriel - seems hard to lynch like JS and AD even though people are screaming for his head ... weird

I Am Innocent - claimed + crumbed cop with inno on mollie

Bitmap

AngryPidgeon - really, reallllly likely town

Aj the Epic - also really likely town imo

Herobrine (hydra of Mist7676 and Rob13)

Dreams of Grandeur (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Mantisdreamz) - herobrine was really scummy, nachodreams seems p townie so far
borkjerfkin - mostly town, seems kinda like majiffy has been: along for the ride and enjoying it
mozamis - has that "classic mislynch" feel. wouldn't cry if he's lynched but i feel he deserves a chance
TheReverend - probtown but i dont feel it enough to enough to color green
penguin_alien - has made contentful posts, active but not enough to draw suspicion

MattP - totally chaotic, anti town, waahhh waaahhh

JacobSavage - lurker, probscum, die

UberNinja - obv

PeregrineV - lurking and sniping (at me). no real content or original thought

Vifam - all hat and no rabbit. got UA lynched d1 with help of majiffy, has been coasting

let me know if i missed anything else

me, mollie, mhork, AP, AJ, and IAI need to bloc vote from now on

[UberNinja]

and skimmed a cop read when it was pretty pertinent to what was going on at the time? lol

yes

u wont believe how fast i scrolled and skimmed lol

[UberNinja]

is it worth re-reading everything? what did i miss

oh also who is dr producer i need to find that out

[UberNinja]

mod's iso says nothing!!!

ALT SLIP ALERT
hehh heh heh heh heh heh

[UberNinja]

fuck its just a modding account -__-

[UberNinja]

How am I coasting?????

name one thing you have actually done in the past... 40 pages

[UberNinja]

oh its matt! haha

hi dr

feelgood

producer

[UberNinja]

god can we plz just lynch nachodreamz they are the most dangerous peeps in this game

VOTE: dreamz

why are they? i don't see it

i think they're being quite "helpful"

omg. cos scum are never "helpful".

you know that's not the point

anyone who creates discussion and has opinions is "helpful"

stop being stupid

you know what should warm your heart? that I don't think you are this retarded

eta: it took you that long and that much research to figure out it was matt? holy cow

shut the fuck up!

honestly i swear you annoy the fuck out of me

[UberNinja]

I've actually been PRETTY involved in everything going on, just because I'm not making huge cases doesn't mean I'm not doing anything

Okay

then vote JS

[UberNinja]

honestly i swear you annoy the fuck out of me

(in this game)

[UberNinja]

me, mollie, mhork, AP, AJ, and IAI need to bloc vote from now on

I generally don't sheep, and I almost certainly won't change. Paranoid me will not allow myself to follow people I don't have 100% confidence in.

stop being paranoid then

are you worried that JS is some huge game-saving town PR? or what

[UberNinja]

Is your only reason for your townread on ArcAngel the hammer?

yep. otherwise she has been exactly as useless as JS

but that hammer is enough to give me a town read and that's probably never going to change

and furthermore i will defend against that wagon happening, because out of all of the players in this game, that's one of the stupidest possible lynches for multiple reasons

[UberNinja]

who is your #1 scumread vifam

[UberNinja]

Jacob is v/la until the fourteenth, do we just keep voting for him and sod the claim? I really want to do that, becuase he's lurking is fucking annoying, and going away for v/la is even more so, but
FUCKING HELL JACOB LOL

lets see

do we wait SIX MORE DAYS for somebody who's lurked through the entire game, and waste the ENTIRETY of our bankable time on a claim, when we already have a cop and an innocent child outed?

hmmmmmmm

[UberNinja]

VOTE: ArcAngel9

VOTE: arcangel

finally

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Arc

VOTE ARC ANGEL

...

less than 5 minutes later

...

OMG, I am back and there is chain on votes on my name.
This is insane!!!

i dont know where to begin and whom to ask about this anymore.... the only thing i can tell you all is that you're making a mistake.
and Maifa clearly using me as wild card, please do see that.. i ll admit that i have been a lousy player here but that doesn't make me scum.

hahahaha

fuck

maybe they're both scum

that would explain a lot

[UberNinja]

still think she's town, btw

but holy fuck what a dodgy answer to that quick wagon

and holy fuck what a quick response to it

[UberNinja]

nonono

js and aa9

[UberNinja]

and yes JS is a stupid target.

you investigate someone like matt or me or majiffy or vifam or bork or rev

any of those targets are easily 300% better than JS

[UberNinja]

if i had my choice, JS wagon would go through

arcangel wagon would be saved for d4

i think its going to be arcangel though since she's closer

[UberNinja]

it'd be FUCKING HILARIOUS if JS came in and derp hammered ArcAngel

i'd fucking break a rib from laughing so hard

[UberNinja]

UberNinja - here is where it gets interesting! I think he looks like pure pondscum and would push for his wagon if I thought there was a possibility it could grow legs but too many people have him in their town pile. the lynch would stall. the latest scummiest of scum scum scum scumtitude that he has managed to produce is that he finds me annoying. scum will get annoyed while town gets indignant when under fire. seriously, he looks like he has been dipped in a truckstop commode and I just don't get why people see him as town.

also his list is interesting...majiffy at the top, vifam at the bottom with aj and dreamz in the middle. if he flips scum look hard at those 4. also look at the second from the bottom or the top.

LOL

try looking at this post mollie, that might help you out there:

Starting Playerlist:

1. TheUnderachivers (hydra of Nero Cain and Mastin)
   
2. Majiffy
   
3. pirate mollie
   
4. Lord Mhork
   
5. Om of the Nom
   ArcAngel9
   
6. Josh Lyman
   ActionDan
   
7. zabriel
   
8. I Am Innocent
   
9. Bitmap
   AngryPidgeon
   
10. Aj the Epic
    
11. Herobrine (hydra of Mist7676 and Rob13)
    Dreams of Grandeur (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Mantisdreamz)
    
12. borkjerfkin
    
13. mozamis
    
14. TheReverend
    
15. penguin_alien
    
16. MattP
    
17. JacobSavage
    
18. UberNinja
    
19. PeregrineV
    
20. chkflip
    
21. Vifam

Spoiler: Currently Flapping Their Gums About Stuff In-Thread (ALIVE)

Majiffy
pirate mollie
Lord Mhork

Om of the Nom

ArcAngel9

Josh Lyman

ActionDan
zabriel
I Am Innocent

Bitmap

AngryPidgeon
Aj the Epic

Herobrine (hydra of Mist7676 and Rob13)

Dreams of Grandeur (hydra of Nachomamma8 and Mantisdreamz)
borkjerfkin
mozamis
TheReverend
penguin_alien
MattP
JacobSavage
UberNinja
PeregrineV
Vifam

Spoiler: Currently Parading About the Underworld in "Ghastly" Fashion (DEAD)

TheUnderachivers (hydra of Nero Cain and Mastin) -

Vanilla Townie

lynched Day 1
chkflip -

Vanilla Townie

killed Night 1

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[UberNinja]

WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS EMPTY SUPPORT FOR A JS WAGON WHEN THE AA WAGON JUST EXPLODES AND YET NO ONE SEEMS WILLING TO ACTUALLY STAND BEHIND THEIR VOICE.

[UberNinja]

if somebody can give me a link where she's THAT derp as scum, i will hammer her myself

however i don't think that's gonna happen

[UberNinja]

Yep. I would not mind a Rev investigate tbh.

But I have a striking feeling that IaI is going to end up dead or blocked.

Ugh I dont know what to do. I almost prefer JS to AA9 at this point since Im more sure shes town.

yessss

let the intelligence flow through you

revote JS

then your journey to the light side will be complete

[UberNinja]

lol... 2 minutes w/o a post?

everyone must be looking for a derp aa9 scum game

hah

[UberNinja]

>_>
Om's Play just screwed her badly then, 'cause I can't see her townliness.

if you can't see HER towniness, then how was it OM that screwed her?

0_o

[UberNinja]

ahahaha

lol, uber

I still think you are scum tho!

honestly i dont care what you think as long as you are pushing good lynches and being active

but i'm town, ya dum dum head

[UberNinja]

uber you saying that arc is derp as town and not derp as scum is...
stupid

i have no meta on her

i personally believe that

some U.S. americans do not have maps

very few people could be

that

stupid, arcangel or no arcangel

if she's scum then it just shows i am too trusting

[UberNinja]

I'm excited to see AA flip scum and watch none of you stubborn fucks backpedal.

I'll backpedal just for you.

backpedal onto JS right now you moron

[UberNinja]

She isn't playing town enough to shift my read from om's damning play. Plus she's basically given up and the day needs to end.

if she flips town then she is throwing a game to meta-match. I hate that shit. she is capable of good play.

IF SHE'S CAPABLE OF GOOD PLAY THEN HOW THE FUCK WOULD SHE DO THAT AS SCUM

IT'S FUCKING MIND BOTTLING

[UberNinja]

i'm done. lynch whoever you want

scum are running this town, believe you me

scum and derp fucks

[UberNinja]

not hammering without an example of her being derpy as scum

i already said i'd hammer if somebody gave me that

but i dont see it

[UberNinja]

alright now she's hammered.

smart money says she's town so let's discuss all we can before the lock (and before I have to run out the door to drive out of state)

[UberNinja]

the game is over? why i am confused?

HAHAHAHAHA

okay i read that iso AP

maaaaaybe she's scum

[UberNinja]

i'd give it like 10%

either way we saved 7 days of time, somebody's dead, somebody controversial i.e. good

so not only do we get lots of associative tells (no matter what she flips)

but we can move on to lynching a POWER PLAYER tomorrow because lynching derps/lurkers is stupid

[UberNinja]

mozi is town

why not uber or yourself, ap?

we're both pretty much sure each other are 100% town due to meta meta meta

[UberNinja]

i can't see any way AP is scum. there was one post that really really convinced me

but i dont remember what it was, it was during my lightning p82-98 read

[UberNinja]

honestly i would investigate vifam or majiffy

if majiffy and pirate are both conftown, they'd probably work well together given their mojo/charisma/etc together

but vifam is much more likely to be scum than majiffy

[UberNinja]

why didnt you push it harder then

huh?

[UberNinja]

or better yet

stop ignoring the lynch

if AA is town, who is the scum on the wagon?
if AA is scum, who is the scum OFF the wagon? (or on as well, for that matter)

[UberNinja]

Fucking go ISO me and ctrl+f moz and tell me to fucking push harder, no, fuck that.

Not a single point was ever refuted.
A number of people have asked for cases. I have presented each time.

AND EVERYONE JUST FUCKING IGNORES IT.

can you give me a case on moz

cause i am just not seeing it

why dont you push it harder then, instead of letting AA be lynched?

[UberNinja]

if AA is scum
moz-IaI-AJ-peregrineV need to die

IAI?

and not Matt?

LOL

[UberNinja]

AJ is town nacho

PV could be scum tho

[UberNinja]

i thought you guys would be happier after we lynched scum
just let papa nacho guide you through these difficult times

actually

you seem so sure she is scum i'm suspicious that you aren't a scumbuddy going for early town cred

actually that makes even

more

sense now that i've gotten it out of my head and onto the page

If AA is scum I'd actually consider looking at UberNinja

uberninja wouldn't posture so hard on this "why did you let AA get lynched, Majiffy?" if AA was scum

uhhh wut

Here this will get you started.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4670430
Start there. Read till 405.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4671876
Then read that.

If you want more, seek previously given advice.

NOW GO FUCKING DIE GOD DAMNIT HOW ARE YOU THIS BAD AT THIS GAME ITS CALLED ISO AND CTRL + FUCKING EFF.

well? what the fuck? why didnt you post that before??

fuckin hell, majiffy

Spoiler:

[UberNinja]

and with that, i will see you all on the 11th. perfect fucking timing.

[UberNinja]

I am wondering why IAI or Mhork or mollie didn't die last night.

Also, if all the claims from yesterday were true, and given the flips, that's *quite a bit* of town power. As in, more than I believe we actually have. Cop, Masons, Innocent child (all *three* of those in one game? Hmmm scum must have a lot of PRs to counter the town confirmation abilities alone) + Vigilante + ??? (protective roles?)

Given the lack of nightkill hoopla, I'd say the chances of us having multiple scum teams or an SK are pretty low. Of course, given the possibility that there is at least one doc in the setup (and we know there was a scum JK), there could possibly have just been blocked kills too.

BUT, given the severe amount of town power we already know about, even MORE town power (sans a protective role or two, of course) seems pretty unlikely. Either that, or (yes, I'll be the one to say it) this is a bastard game, in that the Innocent Child was faked (unlikely as hell), OR, the cop claim could have been faked (but probably not the mollie result).

tl;dr:

Holy shit, town power roles. We are either up against the most powerful scum team of all time role-wise (and scum JK can be pretty powerful, tbf), OR, some of the claims or fake, AND/OR, we have been getting extremely lucky in blocking kills.

p-edit: roflmao

[UberNinja]

And it could be that there is a doctor and Chkflip was a vig shot.

Oh yes this is the thing I forgot to mention in my first post. I suspected that chkflip was vig killed too, because as scummy as he was, it doesn't make sense for scum to kill him. And that came up to me because I was thinking about town protective roles, etc.

The other solution is that arcangel jailed nacho after derp hammer, and the fact that arcangel was dead meant she couldn't jail him last night, meaning two kills. Still doesn't explain only one kill on N1 though, unless there is a town protective role or Hero didn't submit a kill N1, or there is only one scum team.

The other solution that I thought of was that the vig shot nacho because he thought it was odd how he 100% knew arcangel was scum, and decided not to take chances... then i realized how stupid that was and slapped myself

Need to check Rob's reads.

No, we need to check DOG's reads. If scum killed him, but didn't kill Rob/Hero, then that must have meant something. Either that, or they just figured he was a PR because of the force replace thing.

In that case, scum know there is probably a doctor in the game and expected that person to target IaI (if hes isn't mafia). Anyways, Im not going to do too much until IaI posts.

Why not?

why are you not voting matt ap

VOTE: Mattp

Because I want to hear I am Innocent claim a result first?.

Why did you make an excuse for not voting him, but then vote him anyway?

[UberNinja]

Who started the initial seed of doubt about me being town when I was an initial universal townread? Whoever that was, if they are scum then well done. I think it was UN. You get a pat on the back.

I don't and won't ever trust you, not even if you were a mod-confirmed Innocent Child Mason Tree Stump who'd flipped town twice.

[UberNinja]

yes I am irate.

when I give a 98% read it should be treated as fact cos I am never wrong when I give 98% read. it either cos I know the player well enough to give that type of read or I have inside info. I had inside info on mozi which is why I gave a 98% town read. our mason board is pretty funny! I talked myself into a town read on nacho based on he did not drop his kill tell and then was talked out of it. now I am pissed cos I lost both mozi AND nacho. at least I could have written haikus with nacho and mozi would prolly have had to out today cos of teh retardz in this game and then we could have talked in the open in the game thread.

I feel so alone!

*sobz into arms*

I only trust reads
99% and up
write me one back plz

[UberNinja]

Who started the initial seed of doubt about me being town when I was an initial universal townread? Whoever that was, if they are scum then well done. I think it was UN. You get a pat on the back.

I don't and won't ever trust you, not even if you were a mod-confirmed Innocent Child Mason Tree Stump who'd flipped town twice.

Is this, like, in this game or in general?

Either. Both.

At the very least PM would have been NKd if IAI were town. Dream NK does not make ANY sense unless scum have a role cop and actually thought that was a more lucrative NK than a conftown NK

Scum didn't know PM was going to be confirmed. It makes perfect sense if IAI is scum to keep PM alive because when IAI flipped scum it would implicate PM who was a scumread already for a lot of people.

who was I scum read for other than uber goober who is probably your scummate?

You were a scumread for a LOT of people especially day one. IAI claimed a townread on you halfway through day 2. I was advocating most strongly for you being town. Seriously I'm pointing out that your reasoning for thinking I'm scum, if it's your only reason, is bad. At least TRY to give me like FIVE SECONDS of unbiased behavior GOD FORBID I'm town

Look at War is Hell, you would get a kick out of that game. I'm trying to avoid that situation. Please spare me.

So then, explain to me the reason you've done the things you've done, and what net pro-town benefit you've had on the game so far?

I'm not seeing any of it. I'm seeing chaos and AtE through and through, which is scum-matt

[UberNinja]

Vig + 3 masons + IC VS Mafia JK is really scumsided.

There has to be another PR out there. I'd buy a cop, but then why didn't IaI get off'd last night?

what is this i dont even

[UberNinja]

I self-investigated last night b/c I got something from an inventor and I came up town

Vote: PeregrineV

[UberNinja]

I only trust reads
99% and up
write me one back plz

at least there is you
to laugh, to banter, to give
make me think your town

I am not special
I have no cute claim for you
I am only me

[UberNinja]

majiffy was it you who nked nacho? why not me instead.

or were you going with my tr/ratz/to/mr/ff meta that I usually hit a special with my scum reads when you know I am town?

Nah I killed Moza and I'm trying to WIFOM my kill by claiming Nacho did it. I'm actually SK and Nacho was killed by scum.

Why the snark in the answer? The question wasn't really that snarky.

[UberNinja]

PV is town. Like really really town.

X

[UberNinja]

look at scum move in on perv this is actually pretty funny

Look at PV weak push on me D1 and D2, and overall vibe of skating by without actually doing anything.

Also note this:

In the future, mantis, I would prefer you PM me as soon as your Hydra account is activated.
Very bad form to post before any announcement, in my view. I'm kinda pissed, but whatever.

Go ahead...

sorry maestro, i know it was bad form.


sorry..

Just gonna go with this as the reason for the thread-lock yesterday? Don't see anything else that might have caused it.

You were paying close enough attention...

...that you noticed the thread was locked?

...for a brief five minute period?

...on a day where you made 0 posts in the thread?

X

This is still scummy as fuck and it's weird nobody else has commented on it.

[UberNinja]

I wish you would stay in too, matt.

Because I want you to lie in the bed that you have made









And also because you'll help me lynch PV when everybody else ignores him.

[UberNinja]

AP answer my "what is this i dont even" post

And stop ignoring what I said about PV

He's been fluffing/lurking the whole game with some weak suspicion on me but not actually pushing or helping to push my wagon
Which is probably because he knows I'm not going to get lynched and knows I'm therefore a safe target for vote parking

Seriously ISO the motherfucker he deserves to die

[UberNinja]

Yes I am town, AP

[UberNinja]

I thought Vifam was one of the primary pushers of AA and I don't think she'd have gotten lynched without his support.

Disagree, I actually read this thread a fiar amount immediately after the flip.

ISO Vifam. Sure he supports AA9 lynch, but hes never super vocal about it. It only happened when Mhork conf-towned himself and finally Nacho, Mollie and I came over. Vifam even tried to rekindle JS support after AA9 lynch was stalling. And he was tunneling ActionDan as top scum pick.

Vifam was really flirty with the AA9 wagon but kept focusing elsewhere. I really think he was keeping it open for possible credit but trying to get attention on other things.

to me it looked like penguin made a decision at a critical time, she is the one who shifted the balance at a pivotal point in the game. it could have been arc or jacob at that point.

matt has not actively lurked from what I have noticed but jacob most definitely has

VOTE: jacob

i am banging my head against a wall

look at PV dammit

look at PV

look at PV








/inb4 majiffy comes and trolls me like I trolled him yesterday

[UberNinja]

Vifam didn't 'plant seeds'. He poked at AA9 a little bit, but never tried to get people to wagon her. And ACTIVELY voted JS at a really critical point. It looks like credit. It smells like credit.

Uhhh I totally agree with bork. Vifam called for an AA lynch more than a lot of people, and consistently kept bringing it up every time it kept falling by the wayside

Maybe it was for credit, maybe not (I'm leaning NOT, based on the fact that lynching a scum power role when she could have so easily gotten away with it if he'd have just shut up about it). But saying he never pushed it is dumb, especially if you read his ISO, which you clearly haven't

[UberNinja]

Actually I need to rethink Vifam based on this because this could change everything

What do you think of him, mollie? You seem to have blinders on right now

[UberNinja]

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That's getting annoying.

Yes indeed. I'll be back when it stops

[UberNinja]

ActionDan's post 2705 actually looks pretty town. That's exactly the kind of thing I look for.

So... Matt. Who do you honestly think are scum? And why? Besides me, obviously.

[UberNinja]

ActionDan's post 2705 actually looks pretty town. That's exactly the kind of thing I look for.

So... Matt. Who do you honestly think are scum? And why? Besides me, obviously.

where did matt say you were scum? I must have missed that.

You must have missed 3/4 of the game then

[UberNinja]

do you want to get cosy vifam y/n

I demand an invitation to this

[UberNinja]

Apologies, gentles, but JacobSavage apparently declared himself on Vacation or without Limitless Access some short time ago. I was not initially notified and my Box for messages of the private variety seems to be undergoing some technical trouble - do consider yourselves notified.

You'll also get a Votecount after some tea. Priorities, dear, priorities...ta!

seriously?

replace that motherfucker

SERIOUSLY

[UberNinja]

and jacob lurked and lurked and lurked

lol this sounds like you read it straight from a children's book

[UberNinja]

do you want to get cosy vifam y/n

I demand an invitation to this

i feel so happy right now lol you can't even tell how huge i am smiling

[UberNinja]

hey matt did you read my posting?
ty

UN is scum, he's not treating me as he would if he were town. End of story.

up until this point he had you pretty much as null and was wanting to work things out

so what 3/4 of the game did I miss?

bullshit i feel like he has had me as scum all game

or at least that's what my subconscious tells me