NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[pirate mollie]

what I don't like about ua's posts is that they are coming from a survivalistic POV now majiffy explain to me one more time how that is a null tell

[TheUnderachivers]

I'm looking at AJ again, and quite frankly, the conclusion's much the same, albeit for different reasons than what I had in the QT.
AJ's not posting here as vigorously as I'd expect him to a town (an 18-post iso puts him well in the bottom half of the town ), yet at the same time, he's a decent overall poster.
Definitely possible, but I have no clue how probable.

[TheUnderachivers]

what I don't like about ua's posts is that they are coming from a survivalistic POV

Nah, not survivalistic. That implies we have a chance of surviving.

I have no intention of living through the day. Was impossible on Friday (account wasn't activated), I wasn't around on the weekend, was going to be difficult on Monday, but by Tuesday, it became improbable and by today, impossible.

I do, however, wanna do my half of the scumhunting. People won't actually listen to our reads when we flip town (shock! horror! We're not scum!
"Oh, they're lynched town, so let's ignore every point they made; surely there weren't any valid ones?" will be in full effect ), but hey, gotta have some fun before the hammer's dropped.

My statement about people saying seriously that we're scum is true: it's either from an idiot or from scum. Wasn't using it to defend myself against an attack, though. Quite the opposite, it was to attack others.

[TheUnderachivers]

Side-note, I guess another goal of mine is to get our hydra up to Mafia Scum before we're lynched.

Nero doesn't post much; we were a townsperson before I began posting.

[MattP]

FTR I still want an IAI lynch and if UA flips town it's more proof that IAI is scum and there are some serious scum trying to push a wagon away from IAI

[TheUnderachivers]

Quick skim of UN's iso makes him-as-scum more likely. I mean, despite being a consistent waller (seriously, only 29 posts and his iso is down-right Mastin length. Not mastin2 length. As in, Mastin the chronic wallposter length ), there doesn't seem to be a lot in there scream town.

Basically...he's saying townie stuff, but it feels hollow and empty. As if the words didn't actually mean anything. Definitely could be scum.

Not as definite as I'd prefer, but probably the strongest of those I've done an iso for.

[ActionDan]

bullshit

you said if IAI flips scum, TUA goes to 95% scum.

having TUA flipping town under that assumption implies the opposite.

[TheUnderachivers]

Majiffy's posting seems pretty weak on a skim. Because this is a super-duper-mega-skim, it's not very definite, but I have a gut feeling if I had time to look it'd look bad.

Probably leaving soon, so won't get to put more in before tomorrow, by which time I'm pretty sure we'll be lynched, soyeah, this is probably it. Wish I had more, but nope, that's it.

[TheUnderachivers]

Majiffy
I Am Innocent
Aj the Epic
MattP
JacobSavage
UberNinja
Vifam
Herobrine

In summary...

UberNinja--mid-tier scum.
Jacob Savage--mid-tier scum.
Herobrine--personally high-tier scum, but eh, not to Nero. Mid-tier scum overall.
IAI--Mid-low tier scum.
Majiffy--mid-low tier scum.
AJ--low-tier scum.

MattP--nothin' from me.
Vifam--nothin' from me.

Soyeah, pretty weak finish from me, but eh, at least I got to do SOME scumhunting.

[Majiffy]

majiffy you are often wrong too but seem to have this convenient amnesia and pretend like you never were

What are you talking about?

Majiffy and Hero's followup posts to maz are right along with my thinking. town points

Okay, so not all three of {Jiffy, Hero, IAI} are scum, but one (if not two) definitely are.

Elaborate.

what I don't like about ua's posts is that they are coming from a survivalistic POV now majiffy explain to me one more time how that is a null tell

Because townies know they're town, and that's the only knowledge they can be certain of. If there are two wagons and one is on a townie, that townie will kick into survivalism mode to ensure that from their POV the confirmed townie isn't lynched.

FTR I still want an IAI lynch and if UA flips town it's more proof that IAI is scum and there are some serious scum trying to push a wagon away from IAI

What the fuck is this didn't you have a scum read on UA like last time you breathed?

Majiffy's posting seems pretty weak on a skim. Because this is a super-duper-mega-skim, it's not very definite, but I have a gut feeling if I had time to look it'd look bad.

Funny, I have a gut feeling your reads are utter trash as they all end with "yeah that person could be scum but I don't know but yeah they look kinda scummy i mean idk but they could flip scum I guess".

Your 11th hour desperation is pathetic. If you're town, try investing some actual real effort in, eh?

~Better...?

[Majiffy]

UberNinja--mid-tier scum.
Jacob Savage--mid-tier scum.
Herobrine--personally high-tier scum, but eh, not to Nero. Mid-tier scum overall.
IAI--Mid-low tier scum.
Majiffy--mid-low tier scum.
AJ--low-tier scum.

Oh look, exactly like I said.

[Majiffy]

Mod...have I ever told you how much I admire you? Well I do.

~Awww, thanks Majiff!

[Aj The Epic]

Oh wow.

No wonder Nero has a Jacob scumread.

There's pretty much no content in them at all. And Nero posted in the QT that Jacob has been active in other games but not this one. (*insert vote for our hydra here pointing to my activity* ) Not to mention...

Hey, its started.
VOTE: Majiffy It's always Majiffy...

The classic "vote-your-scumbuddy-in-RVS" tell.

That's a pretty awful post. RVS vote used 1200 posts later as the basis to your post on why Jacob is a scum read, when neither jiffy or JS have flipped. Nice...

[MattP]

bullshit

you said if IAI flips scum, TUA goes to 95% scum.

having TUA flipping town under that assumption implies the opposite.

Do you hold players to things they said before even when they bring forth new reasoning to believe something else just to stroke your ego or do you do it because you're delusional?

[pirate mollie]

what I don't like about ua's posts is that they are coming from a survivalistic POV

Nah, not survivalistic. That implies we have a chance of surviving.

I have no intention of living through the day. Was impossible on Friday (account wasn't activated), I wasn't around on the weekend, was going to be difficult on Monday, but by Tuesday, it became improbable and by today, impossible.

I do, however, wanna do my half of the scumhunting. People won't actually listen to our reads when we flip town (shock! horror! We're not scum!
"Oh, they're lynched town, so let's ignore every point they made; surely there weren't any valid ones?" will be in full effect ), but hey, gotta have some fun before the hammer's dropped.

My statement about people saying seriously that we're scum is true: it's either from an idiot or from scum. Wasn't using it to defend myself against an attack, though. Quite the opposite, it was to attack others.

I always read dead players scumreads that is just smart play. even if you think they are idiots there is almost always a nugget of gold that can be mined and possibly used later on.

it is one of the reasons why scum going down are so reluctant to provide lists of their reads.

[pirate mollie]

Oh wow.

No wonder Nero has a Jacob scumread.

There's pretty much no content in them at all. And Nero posted in the QT that Jacob has been active in other games but not this one. (*insert vote for our hydra here pointing to my activity* ) Not to mention...

Hey, its started.
VOTE: Majiffy It's always Majiffy...

The classic "vote-your-scumbuddy-in-RVS" tell.

That's a pretty awful post. RVS vote used 1200 posts later as the basis to your post on why Jacob is a scum read, when neither jiffy or JS have flipped. Nice...

^^^ scum aj spotted

[Majiffy]

Or provide utter garbage reads in a last-ditch "oh look how town I am" hail mary.

p-edit: Eh.

[pirate mollie]

Or provide utter garbage reads in a last-ditch "oh look how town I am" hail mary.

p-edit: Eh.

except that mastin is offering himself up as a sacrificial lamb. and listing his reads. yeah....if he flips scum I will look like a total tard but while he is in the game I am going to milk him for all he is worth and it will provide info to my team regardless.

[TheReverend]

Alright I'll chip in, last few pages look really bad for UA.

VOTE: thunderachivers

[ActionDan]

bullshit

you said if IAI flips scum, TUA goes to 95% scum.

having TUA flipping town under that assumption implies the opposite.

Do you hold players to things they said before even when they bring forth new reasoning to believe something else just to stroke your ego or do you do it because you're delusional?

I did it this time to make sure everyone has a town-read on my slot.
In case they didn't already.

and maybe to poke you

[Maestro]

Mod can you fix 1284's tags? I don't even know what the fuck.

You think I know what you meant to post there?

[UberNinja]

Yo, UN, you scum?

You're dancing around our lynch, calling us scummy but not actually firmly saying we're scum.

Which, if my memory isn't betraying me (it is overly fond of stabbing me in the back ), was something you were rather fond of doing as scum in 1377.

Nope. And I'm not dancing around your lynch; I'm pushing a better one.

Uhhhhh, 1377? you mean 1379?
Don't ask me why Matt changed it.

[Herobrine]

UA is at L-3. Let's bank this deadline.

For those who want a formal case in order to consider the wagon:

1) Go read his ISO - it's fairly obvious and you should be able to see it by yourself
2) I'll try to accomodate your request for a case as soon as possible. That likely won't be until this weekend because of college.

[UberNinja]

Quick skim of UN's iso makes him-as-scum more likely. I mean, despite being a consistent waller (seriously, only 29 posts and his iso is down-right Mastin length. Not mastin2 length. As in, Mastin the chronic wallposter length ), there doesn't seem to be a lot in there scream town.

I never scream town. I scream DEATH. ;D

Also feel free to have a cop inspect me tonight. I know I'm town and everyone worth their salt also has me as town. Which has me worried because there are a few people worth their salt that DO NOT have me as town. And guess what, they're in my scum- or scummy- reads.

Basically...he's saying townie stuff, but it feels hollow and empty. As if the words didn't actually mean anything. Definitely could be scum.

YMMV. Catchup posts of mine tend to be that way. But they're not for you allz benefit, they're for mine so I can get a handle on the game.

Not as definite as I'd prefer, but probably the strongest of those I've done an iso for.

I actually read you and Nero very differently this game. Those posts which I can tell are yours, seem very town.

Some of Nero's posts seem town as well, but the argument with Vifam just didn't feel so great.

[TheReverend]

I don't like hero's last post at all. UNVOTE:

VOTE: hero