Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over
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Mehdi2277 Mafia Scum
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Second post was me question parama here:
In post 13, Soul2277 wrote:Then is there a reason to say you don't have a PR? Or even is there a reason to think a PR exists?
~Mehdi
Do you want to keep on going? I played that game seriously from the start. So I want you to explain how that is true in anyway.-
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I think that shows the point of I always play seriously. If you really need something closer to that here:
I actually planned to treat the set up seriously and basically said so in sign ups. I don't think I've ever not played somewhat seriously.
Mafia Qt is Sixty's everyone can daykill someone game.
P-edit: Not really true since Sc and Spice's vote I'd at least count as serious.-
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@Jal, I actually thought Jake had something since I remembered his name, but I wasn't asking for a detailed just a simple he sounds normal, a bit more relaxed, etc. Just a small lean thing to continue.
Next, dislike the Lurker wagon. Curious when the last time someone only read a few posts in this short of a game has happened since he stopped reading after 4 posts doesn't seem likely. Nor is it really new for someone to treat early discussion as weak. So mog/jal want to explain it more then that?
P-edit: I'll be clearer then SC. I was criticizing the joke vote.-
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In post 68, Mogadishu Jones wrote:Holy crap somehow I missed posts 43-46.
I'm down for thisunvote: vote lurker
@lurker: regarding post #44, why did you feel the need to announce you weren't moving your vote?
I think that says why you're on the wagon. If it's a different reason you can say it, but from the reasoning here that I'm assuming followed Jul's I dislike why you're voting him and disagree with it being scummy.
P-edit: And Jake was also the first person voted.
No, but I still think the reasoning you're pushing is dumb. Sure scum have done it, but you're not rejecting the general statement. Treating early comments as still random isn't new from town either and either explain how it happens more often from new scum relatively then new town or it isn't a scum tell.-
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Mog if you want to play vaguely sure, but otherwise I'll assume your vote is because of what you said near it. Jal posts right before you quoting a post from lurker. You say you didn't notice it and then vote him.
Jul It doesn't take 5 votes on a person to call reasoning bad.
Robert what would you like to do day 1? No lynching is worse then mislynching.-
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I won't argue this in theory since that thinks too long but how about numbers. If we no lynch we're making the game a night start (assuming no day powers). 13 player vanilla day start win chances with 3 scum (the most likely number) is 20 percent chance for town. Same thing but with night start is 10 percent. Here's the calculator that does this.-
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You realize that logic can just be reflected. If you argue it the same way it doesn't become better when I said it was bad before.
As for the no lynching thing while it's a wrong idea I've argued the same idea a ton off site where people generally play cautiously/don't see how a mislynch isn't worse.
Lastly have you ever played a game where you say someone is scum and everyone who disagrees with you is scum? I doubt it so want to clarify how me defending him is different from a townie thinking your accusations are wrong.-
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In post 100, Jal wrote:You don't even have a valid argument. You are just making assumptions and arguing it like it actually means something. So you've seen someone do X before. So what? What does it mean? Is it a town tell? A null tell? What is it?
You're pushing something as a scum tell without explaining how it occurs more commonly from scum.
In post 100, Jal wrote:You never even answered my question: Is Lurker a town read?
I did.
In post 79, Mehdi2277 wrote:No, but I still think the reasoning you're pushing is dumb. Sure scum have done it, but you're not rejecting the general statement. Treating early comments as still random isn't new from town either and either explain how it happens more often from new scum relatively then new town or it isn't a scum tell.
In post 100, Jal wrote:Lastly, I just made a post to Lurker clearing up that negative reactions to a wagon doesn't necessarily mean scum. You obviously had to read that post just to respond to my point towards you. Don't pretend to be ignorant. I haven't even called you a scum read and already you're getting all up in your pants about the possibility that I may think so.
In post 94, Jal wrote:Not necessarily. Scummy scum also love to just defend the shit out of random people thinking they're pro town.
Want to contradict more? Since my post on that came right after you said scum love to defend people a lot (and I'm the main defender so who else would that refer to).
In post 100, Jal wrote:Still feelin' like Xis is scum for post 31?
Vote still on although now with him sheeping you when he was trying to pressure someone but good luck for him doing that when you just unvote him.-
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I'm concerned since A. they're not on someone I think is scummy and B. I completely disagree with the reasoning. On the blatant wagoning it's more of the fact he unvoted someone he was trying to pressure. The other thing is the fact Jal is leading the wagon so I just think of her as a bit better then who followed her on to it.-
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All to Jal in order of quotes:
As for the argument it's more of newer players thinking early discussion is relatively unimportant isn't new. What lurker did isn't very different from Robert's idea that no lynching is better day 1. Both show the idea that current discussion doesn't help much and while it's bad idea it is not a scummy idea.
You say some scum like to defend a lot. I'm the only defending him a lot. And I'm supposed to naturally understand it was meant in general vs at me?
I'm assuming all the questions for 104 are answered.-
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In post 44, Lurker wrote:Ok... So there was a joke with my username...
Ok then. It look like we are still in RVS, So I'll leave my vote for now.
Here's what he said. Last sentence where he calls the game still in rvs I'd consider him thinking the discussion is still weak.-
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Lurker other more important question on your reads on who voted me (or well better reads in general including Xis and Mhork)?
SC is there a reason to not say the other reason you unvoted me.
Mog you're bugging people about answering questions, but won't answer one yourself. You claimed to have voted Lurker for a reason you didn't say, but won't say it. What is it or is faking something too hard?-
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A. Jal, Mhork, and Mog all seem to think he's scum with their votes (Xis not so much).
B. Pressure votes work fine when you don't call them pressure votes. If he knows it's just pressure it's a lot easier to ignore. Voting a scum read whether it's mhork or jal beats pressuring jake when it's unlikely to make him post much more when he knows the vote isn't going to get him lynched.-
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I'll help more later when discussion is serious and I'm busy right now both are things that deal with promising content but one is scummy and the other isn't?
P-edit: Point being both deal with appearances in trying to say I'll help which in a vacuum might be bad, but in practice is more of a way for people to have their presence known.-
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