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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:33 am

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In post 974, Mehdi2277 wrote:Mafia getting a vig shot is very rare. I think there's only been one or two mafia vigs in 13ps for the history of this site.

I mainly think that robert's choice to vote jal twice makes him pretty likely town. As scum double voting is fairly useful and to put it on someone that no one wanted to vote as well I don't think is likely for him.


So it's possible?

What a waste the double-vote was. Suppose that's the luck of it. Was a bit pointless it ending up on an inactive and on such an obvious lynch.

You didn't respond to the last bit of #968 btw.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:13 pm

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Tbg was the person I chose. I considered jal but I was expecting UN alive and assumed jal might be kept alive by scum to have un keep on fosing her.

Possible yes. Done in about 1 percent of games on site this size also yes.
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:24 pm

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The double vote came from a chance/community chest card, I don't think him having was alignment inclusive, and since he is new here, we can't actually see how he deals with having double vote powers, I don't think him placing them on someone mostly unexpected is really a tell in either direction.

In post 971, Jal wrote:
Why would Lurker serious vote (and I do think even he thought it was serious according to his wall) his scum buddy like that?

He did also call in RVS still on page 2, so I don't know if it is actually that serious or not

Assuming you're talking about the wall the Lurker slipped in
In post 656, Lurker wrote:Robert2424 bandwagon takes off becuase "he takes jokes too seriously." (or some reasoning like that) Post #32

for most players, ti is said we are OUT OF RVS. (no post number)

I say we are still in RVS, as I think that the discussion is still weak. #44

I still don't see that vote as that serious.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:26 pm

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I don't see how new makes the tell null. It's not the fact he had the double vote but the fact that if he's scum when he has the ability to control a lynch more he chooses one of the least likely people to be lynched to vote for? Because of that I think the suspicion was genuine and he's town.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:06 pm

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Do all scum players give out non-geneuine opinions? If that was the case why haven't we won already?
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:14 pm

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In post 976, Mehdi2277 wrote:Tbg was the person I chose. I considered jal but I was expecting UN alive and assumed jal might be kept alive by scum to have un keep on fosing her.

Possible yes. Done in about 1 percent of games on site this size also yes.


Ah ok. Well your electricity bill says otherwise. You stayed at home last night. No reason for VT to lie.

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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:17 pm

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You may want to ask the mod whether a jail safe card and a night power are equivalent. I doubt it.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:17 pm

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In post 979, Cheery Dog wrote:Do all scum players give out non-geneuine opinions? If that was the case why haven't we won already?

My use of genuine generally means I don't think he was doing it with an ulterior motive.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:22 pm

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In post 981, Mehdi2277 wrote:You may want to ask the mod whether a jail safe card and a night power are equivalent. I doubt it.

Specifically whether if I used a chance card at night on someone would be something you'd track me to.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:28 pm

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In post 980, SafetyDance wrote:
Possible yes. Done in about 1 percent of games on site this size also yes.


Ah ok. Well your electricity bill says otherwise. You stayed at home last night. No reason for VT to lie.

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Is this a claim to have picked up the Electricity company?
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:29 pm

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Jal when did you receive your new property card? Was it the start or end of the night?
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:31 pm

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Lastly can you confirm whether you got lurker's other card or not jal?
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:33 pm

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eep fail quote tags.

In post 982, Mehdi2277 wrote:
In post 979, Cheery Dog wrote:Do all scum players give out non-geneuine opinions? If that was the case why haven't we won already?

My use of genuine generally means I don't think he was doing it with an ulterior motive.
That would be the correct answer, and I have no idea why I even asked that rereading my own post, I think I better go eat if my minds going to think asking something stupid like that with other inactive players being inactive of course we can't PoE win on geneuinability.

pedit, I'm not Jal, but since I have also received a card, I got it at the start of day and it's not one lurker claimed, I guess upon someone's death then.
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:37 pm

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I don't think lurker fake claimed cards. If he did lack of cc means it'd have to be a partner's card and I don't see why fake claim a card not electric company. I'm mainly curious whether lurker's other card went to a person at the start of the night or the end. It's likely the first since that's the way I see safety's claim working best and fake claiming a cop guilty as scum is also fairly stupid and overly confident as scum for someone fairly new.

Not quite sure what you mean on the PoE thing, but currently it's something I'm fine using to look at suspects.
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:37 pm

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In post 980, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 976, Mehdi2277 wrote:Tbg was the person I chose. I considered jal but I was expecting UN alive and assumed jal might be kept alive by scum to have un keep on fosing her.

Possible yes. Done in about 1 percent of games on site this size also yes.


Ah ok. Well your electricity bill says otherwise. You stayed at home last night. No reason for VT to lie.

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Either/or stories are 1v1 stories. I can't see the scum motive to 1v1 a temp doc on D2.

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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:42 pm

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Which is? I'll bother arguing with him when a reason for it appears, but currently I can see fine a card power not counting as a visit.
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:43 pm

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In post 988, Mehdi2277 wrote:Not quite sure what you mean on the PoE thing, but currently it's something I'm fine using to look at suspects.

The second question in that I left quoted in the other post, I asked why we hadn't won yet, which was saying we should PoE this joint.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:45 pm

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Who do you currently think is town?
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:46 pm

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And xis scum motive to claim 1 shot doc who saved no one is?
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:46 pm

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First, I received my card at the beginning of the day and it is not Lurker's other card.

Secondly, Safety are you claiming a tracker card? If cards do go back into the fold, did Lurker lie about watcher to make it seem more town or is Safety confused? I really don't think Safety is scum now.

Mehdi, what do you mean by this:

Mehdi2277 wrote:You may want to ask the mod whether a jail safe card and a night power are equivalent. I doubt it.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:48 pm

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I used a jail safe card on tbg. He says I didn't target anyone. I'm saying to check whether a jail safe card counts as a visit or not.
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:49 pm

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Right, that needs to be asked.
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:49 pm

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That is also me saying I didn't visit anyone with a different role power last night.
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:58 pm

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In post 992, Mehdi2277 wrote:Who do you currently think is town?

(note: I haven't ordered these this time)
Jal, Xis, Mhork, you (now that I'm in the game better, and interacting with you, I think I might have got the day 1 read wrong), and still slightly robert slot.
AI and numQ still haven't produced enough content for me to get a read of them, and I'm starting to think scum instead.
Jake's actions today have confused me slightly as well, and he has dropped into the nuller sections of my reads.

and that probably means I should be doing this as my now biggest scumread.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:02 pm

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Day 1 read wrong? When did you have a scum read on me day 1?

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